>>109717271
My company is hiring. But you have to move to Denmark.

>>109717276
You forget to say he needs to talk the danemarquese language so that he can speak engrish with his collegues fronm sweden. One market my ass

>>109717271
It seems to be. Think of it like a pyramid, you start at the bottom and work your way up. Well now the whole bottom of the pyramid is being removed, and the sides are being shaved off. The few positions left at the bottom have people who were previously near the top competing for them. With the right connections you might have a small chance, but in general it's over.

>>109717271
Guy I know literally dropped out to work at an AI company at 21. The catch is he hates his job, feels himself getting dumber daily, and it’s 90% vibecoding because if you don’t push crazy amounts of code you literally cannot do without vibecoding you get fired.

>>109717271
Yes, it's over. There are no more programming jobs left for beginners. If you have 10 years of experience, you're probably still able to find a job right now. But if you're brand new and you don't have a github that's bright green with hundreds of thousands of stars, you're fucked.
or you could always just nepotism max.

>>109717276
Not OP but I live in Sweden (I am French, not Swedish). I know enough Swedish to live entirely in Swedish, and I can even somewhat understand your mashed potato dialect. I currently work at a startup that pays me quite a lot, but they're pushing AI bullshit increasingly and I want out. I have 5 yoe and some cool history and degrees I guess. What's the job and should I apply?

its been impossible to be hired as a newfag for like 15 years in every industry

>>109717276
No deal. Id rather stay jobless / working at fast burger.

>>109717386
I got a jerb as a webshitter in 2018 by spending about 6 weeks learning ruby on rails

>>109717625
Don't skip on revealing that your dad owned the shop that hired you, anon.

Stop fucking with me and give it to me straight. I'm fucking panicking.

>>109717271
Does Laurie even know how attractive she is?

>>109717675
her husband is black btw. sorry you had to learn like this

>>109717271
>Are programming jobs really over?

Wages are going to plummet, and "programming" will be glorified data entry.

My advice to Kids Today is to learn a hands-on trade like plumbing, something that can't be done by AI or outsourced to India.

>>109718114
people have been saying that since before AI, even. what happens when the market is flooded with plumbers and electricians? and who's going to pay for them without a job?

>>109717271
No.
You can be hired if you display loyalty and honesty and dont come at the companies with AI slop.

>>109717271
junior here, startedd a new job a month ago.
there are still jobs out there, just don't be a retard in the interview and GG

>>109717364
That's why nothing works anymore. Fucking AI dogshit

>>109718923
t. never had a job

>>109717386
I got hired for solving fizz buzz on a whiteboard in front of the bossmann in 2020. It was piss easy before 2024

>>109719049
That was not "before 2024" but rather exclusive to 2020.

>>109718913
Other tradespeople.
The economy is healing.

>>109719044
I run several companies. We dont hire vibesloppers.

>>109719064
t. never ran a company, never interviewed, and never held a job

>>109717276
ok what is your company I have dual citizenship. Hire me!

>>109717276
"But you have to move to Paradise" NOoOOoo!! I want to be miserable.

>>109719080
Believe whatever you want.

>>109719188
Denmark is kinda gay. Sweden is the most based country though. But yes, compared to 99% of the world, Denmark would definitely be paradise.

>>109719199
Is that what makes you sleep better at night?

>>109719206
Sweden, which is literally known for mainly gays, is based?

>>109717271
his pusy needs stretching

>>109719213
I sleep just fine.

>>109717276
No there's no jobs for you in Denmark.
All software engineers are unemployed and on benefits.
Only apply to these jobs if you are indian and from India, indians who grew up outside India will not get a job.

>>109719214
It's just amerilard propaganda. It took until 2009 for sweden to make gay marriage a thing. People are very heavily anti-lgbt and anti-immigrants in day-to-day life, and very conservative. It is still normal to this day that kids call black students in their class 'niggers' in real life in person in public. The ruling parties are right wing (by US standard: outright nazi, but by real people standards, center-right to right), and it's going even more to the right.

>>109719224
Common with the delusionals.

>>109719258
Whatever you say. Still not hiring your kind tho.

>>109719274
I know you don't, because you don't hire. If you did hire people, you'd only hire vibecoding indians. Your kind always do this.

>>109717364
Must be some tiny startup or something.
AI isn't about lots of code, it's about efficiency and building infrastructure that works. Each minute that a datacenter stays idle costs thousands of dollars.

>>109719284
You wish.

>>109719391
On the contrary. I wish the world hired people like me, who've programmed since we were 8, still got formal degrees because nobody would even interview us otherwise despite a portfolio of impressive programs, and play around with programming compilers in x86_64 for fun in our spare time.
But no, all you and your ilk do is setup fake jobs to hire vibecoding indians.

>>109719251
Sweden is literally infested by somali niggers who rape white women, shoot people in the head and throw hand grenades around. It's arguably worse than France.

>>109719472
Only 0.63% of the population are somalis. If you extend to other shitskins, it hardly hits 2% all combined. Sweden is almost entirely pure white swedes, even in shitholes like malmö.
Again, it's all propaganda. Note that the reason sweds are so hardcore right wing right now is because 2% is too much, they want 0%.

>>109719428
I would hire you. We have a silent elimination filter for any applicant that is detected to use AI during the process.

>>109719343
clueless
its big corpos doing this, startups cant afford using ai garbage, they actually need to produce something to be profitable

>>109719251
Denmark is less brown than Sweden.
t. American who traveled in Scandinavia

>>109719494
2% is too much. Use case for it being anything above 0%?

>>109719515
And by 'detected to use AI' you mean 'reads like >>109719428 '
because it's "too robotic" and that trips up automated tools which you use instead of manually reading like you should. Meanwhile actual ai shitters have no problems making it through (I know because I have to be the one pointing that shit out, then I'm told to be lenient and I'm imagining things, then the interview happens and I am vindicated, and then they do it again anyway).

>>109719494
>Implying the (((official))) census is trustworthy

>>109719528
Like you say, 2% is too much. That's why Swedes are trying to bring it down to 0%, where it belongs.

>>109719524
Yes, that is true. However, danes love shitskins more (reminiscent to how open sweden was until the immigrants actually decided to come in).

>>109719538
Not sure what you are on about. We have several steps. 95% get eliminates on first contact, the rest fly right off the moment we see their LLM-generated code which is part of the application process and if any get through it becomes very obvious during one of the following 2 interviews

>>109719592
It's very simple: you use bad heuristics and shitty tools that cause the best potential hires to incorrectly be marked as AI while letting AI shitters through. Like you say it takes all the way to interview time and you still get AI shitters. That is, too high false negative rate. But you haven't thought about the false positive rate at all yet.

>>109719542
Two more weeks.

>>109719617
Just recently, they implemented increased time to being allowed to ask for citizenship, deportation of not just criminals but people who abuse social services, get into debt, and other low-stake social issues that are often not considered illegal, a law that makes asylum status people unable to ever become permanent resident or citizens, lax residency revocation rules for the migration agencies, and reporting requirement for undocumented persons.
This is considered 'not remotely enough' and among other things, they're talking about even revoking citizenships and more.

>>109719612
We have 0 AI shitters. If any got through it would be obvious in days and they woild fail their 3 month probation period.

>>109719677
That's what you tell yourself at night as your army of indians alt-tab away from their claude code window.

>>109719686
Why are you so butthurt? Is it really so hard to believe that there are real companies out there who dont suck OpenAI dick?

>>109719744
Yes, yes it's really so hard to believe.

>>109717271
That's a dude.

>>109719756
Share a burner email or any preferred way to reach you.

>>109717271
Yes. 20-30% tech sector unemployment after the software bubble pops.

>>109717271
open source was killing programming for pay anyway, squirting together webcrap abd scripting was never programming to begin with it was glorified desktop publishing and batch files,

>>109717271
>Is this it? Are programming jobs really over?
absolutely not, quite the opposite in fact.
>Is it impossible to be hired as a newfag?
only if you're a retard.
in 2026, it's incredibly easy for a recruiter to know if you're a smoothbrain, in for the money or really passionate about the field, it's getting harder and harder to trick your way into a job and htat's a good thing

>>109719797
You can send me gay porn at throwaway2398@proton.me

>>109719831
Fun fact only 1000 devs worked on windows 2000 professional. In total during the peak of the .com boom there were only ever about 10-20 thousand actual coders about making EVERYTHING. Even at most there is no need for more than at most 100000 worldwide right now.

>>109719836
And the award for the Most retarded post of the Decade goes to...

>>109719850
There is a big difference between the number of people needed to make X and needed to make X in Y time, let alone those needed to make X in Y time with quality value Z.

>>109719852
who?

>>109719861
no...no there is not. The world has no use for half a million jeets and tards with a limited grasp of java, python and html

>>109719874
Nobody has a use for even one jeet, let alone half a million. But the world could absolutely use half a million white men who got into the field because they were passionate about tech since young.

I wanna suck her penis so badly.

I got a job straight out of a no name school with bad grades

The catch is that the company is small the pay is meh there is no remote the stack is Dataverse mixed with general IT admin and stuff. Also i worked there as an intern.

So yeah its a tech job but not the one that you were hoping for. I can see the career progression though if you want to go down the consultancy path.


So if i had to give you advice: tone your expectations way down and you should be able to find something

>>109719881
>the world could absolutely use half a million white men who got into the field because they were passionate about tech since young.
enjoy plugging in printers and pushing your trolly and getting janice in .HR her third new keyboard this month

>>109720005
That's IT monkeys, not tech.

>>109719936
>Also i worked there as an intern.

>>109720014
Yeah. You expected something else?

>>109720030
>So if i had to give you advice: tone your expectations way down and you should be able to find something
>>Also i worked there as an intern.

>>109719251
Your country stopped publicizing crime statistics because it showed the rapefugees kept raping everyone.

>>109720044
True but people know whats going on.

>>109720042
This is obviously talking about early career. If youre mid level+ you should be just fine even without an internship. We just hired someone mid+/senior

>>109720044
Fake news. The stats haven't existed since SCB was no longer in charge of keeping them in the 90's and it moved to Brå. Brå sometimes publishes bespoke reports, nothing has changed in that regard.

>>109720071
Lol.
Lmao even.

>>109717271
There are still a billion boomer enterprise/gov/defense/healthcare jobs to get your foot in the door with, but zoomlets think they're too good to work in the Javasir mines for a while and only apply to remote FAGMAN positions instead.

>>109717688
We all know Laurie is a single dude.

>>109720191
None of them hire, retard. They're literally more hard ass than fagman is.
>what, you didn't go to my alma matter? go bird bulls or you don't get an interview t. every boomboom ever
>what, you're white? Fuck you, government is for the black man okay t. every government job ever
etc