Absolute hiroshima sized truth nuke.If AI could do what people say it would every government in the world would be urgently discussing UBI right now but they are not.Not one single government is doing one single thing about supposed job losses.This tells me AI will take less than 1% of jobs. I feel sorry for the plebs who fell for the marketing.
>>109749718you've never been starving poor or homeless, have you?poor people are not citizens
>>109749718>every government in the world would be urgently discussing UBI right now but they are not.lol just let people starveit's why robotics is the next ai frontier. behave or get shot, that's your ubi right there
>If AI could, kinda like, kinda maybeee do what cuties say it would, like, maybeee every government in the world would, um like, maybeee be urgently discussing UBI like, I mean, right, um you know?? like, hehe? now but they are notSee for yourself what it can do. It can do a lot.>Not one single government is doing one single thingie like, like, luv, about supposed job losses.They will do something, that's for sure.>This tells meee AI will take less than 1% of jobs hehe . I feel sorry for the plebs who fell for the marketing.Go look up data on effected sectors. it takes but a moment.>>109749754Yes, we are. And we also vote.
>>109749718Huh? Nobody "cares" that millions of poor kids are starving right now. Your government only "cares" about you because you pay fund it. If the government has another means to generate capital, then it will no longer need you and no longer "care" about you.
>>109749771>we also votegood luck with that, in all sincerity
>>109749718This hypothesis would fly if:A) The opinions of useless eaters mattered, andB) Depopulation hadn't been (((their))) agenda for the better part of a century.
>>109749784I already voted, so no need. Thanks.
>>109749786It was the Nazis who called people useless eaters, not communists and not socialists.
>>109749718why you save the thumbnail?
>>109749718i can assure you that people in the AI industry are discussing UBI, but currently the consensus seems to be it's more likely that we'll just give more people bullshit jobsnobody really knows what's going to happen when there's real fragmented cross-national competition that makes bullshit jobs inefficient though
>>109749815Horseshoe theory indicates that I nobody cares about your whataboutism.
>>109749718>Not one single government is doing one single thing about supposed job losses.>he thinks the government cares
>>109749833Basically they wanna achieve water company/electrical company status. I imagine that the federal government will probably obtain large stakes in Google/Meta/Amazon/etc. Could go lots of ways. Sovereign wealth fund is actually interesting to read about. I still think taxes on the companies and using those taxes to provide a baseline standard for everyone is very sensible.Like, at this point you should probably be getting destroyed by taxes if you make over $100,000/yr. Income in excess of $100,000/yr is a highly reliable indicator of having too much money.
>>109749913you're poor and retarded and should keep your grubby mitts out of my damn pockets
>>109749932You are probably a middle class manchild who lives with your parents at home and likes to play keyboard warrior. Post literally any W-2 with your personal information redacted to prove me wrong. Post any tax return. You probably won't do it.
>>109749945Yeah I'm certainly going to photograph my pay slips for some faggot on 4chan that wants to steal everybody else's money so he can continue to stay unemployed indefinitely
>>109749974So I was right. Thanks. No need to continue this discussion further. Wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors. Please open the Settings menu in your 4chan app -> Filters & Post Hiding and add me to your filters.
they will never give you UBI
>>109749718You'll get nothing lmaostupid fuck
Not as crazy as it sounds
>>109749718It always takes years before new technology is fully embraced. AI is still new and most people are mentally processing its potential
>>109749815Communists starved people to death.
>>109749754what about being generous, can rich people do that or are they a jew?
>>109750035Yes, communists have faced famine and committed atrocities, but I think it is fair to say the majority of the western government has done the same. communism and socialism aren't the same thing, and unfortunately communism has a bunch of idiots who idealize people like Trotsky, Lenin, or Stalin, rather than people like Pedro Sanchez (sorry, no diacritic on this keyboard)
>>109749990Actually, everyone else was right: you're a thieving commie fuck that (along with the rest of your family, for being complicit in your existence) should be hurled out of helicopters.
>>109749913>Income in excess of $100,000/yr is a highly reliable indicator of having too much money.That's not a lot when you consider inflation and high cost of living.
>>109750068I don't think so. I think you're just exactly what was written here: >>109749945
UBI would cut into the fraud waste and abuse. I asked AI if AI would cause a great depression and it said not to worry about it.
>>109750076Post the screenshots.
>>109750075>I don't thinkI know - that's why you're a thieving communist.
>>109750085You have a paranoia issue. My political affiliation is not with the communists. I am a socialist. I don't know what your political affiliation is, nor your religion, but I don't subscribe to your moral system either.
>>109749718LLMs are not intelligence and never will be. Even labeling them AI tells you that the entire thing is a scam.
>>109750085I don't usually do this, but if you want to have a good faith discussion on tribalism and how you might be in a cult, and for how to get out of it, I might be able to help you.
>>109750052generosity is obviously cuck behavior
>>109750105>I am a socialistAh you just want other peoples stuff and money by voting instead of violence (AT FIRST). I don't see the difference.
>>109750131No. Lets act like and talk like adults because that is what we are.Firstly, do you know the difference between individualism and collectivism?
>>109750105>im not a thieving murderous parasite with this name>im not a thieving murderous parasite with a different nameGlad we had this chat.
>>109750127This. People won't respect you for being generous. They will only hate you.
>>109750126NTA but he's right and the only good commie is a dead one.
>>109750141You give bad advice.
>>109750142You are wrong. You should read Marxist Theory, even if you don't agree with everthing Marx wrote, he offers a lot of useful material.
>>109750126>I don't usually do thisYou don't usually do anything except steal from people.
>>109749718Or you know, governments are retards?
>>109750151Why are you so obsessed with theft? It has already been stated, your moral system is irrelevant. If I want to rob you, and I accept the potential consequences that come with robbing you, then you might get robbed.
>>109750141This.We've given Africa civilisation, 50 Marshall plans of cold hard cash, run of our lands, and enough food to quadruple their population in 50 years.What do we get in return? Rape and murder gangs everywhere.
>>109750145You don't get it because you haven't experienced it.
>>109750138Considering I have a degree in political theory I suggest you fuck off and read hobbes, locke, mill, betham, rousseau and paine.YOU KNOW THE FOUNDATIONAL PILLARS OF THE MOST SUCESSFUL NATIONS ON EARTH.
>>109750154Because you're a communist: an ideology centrally based on theft.>SEIZE the means of productionNot create the means, not maintain the means - steal it. Theft is the starting point of your entire value system.
>>109750163i have never been resented for being generous except for when my family found out my intent to donate to various charitable organizations rather than to them. lol. Some Eastern Europeans think that makes you a piece of shit. Americans too. Well, my family wasn't the best. I'm not egotistical and attached to some "legacy"" that I am leaving behind. I'm just happy and thankful to be here.
>>109750175What you are describing is a marxist revolution, something I do not support. I think unionization and democratic means of achieving a socialist state is achievable. >>109750166Show us your degree or your claim is worthless
>>109750179>donate to various charitable organizationsThat's very impersonal. Obviously, you won't have people on the receiving end of the donations (minus the hefty administrative costs) resenting you when they don't even know who you are. You're exactly as I've said, no experience.
>>109750147>Labor theory of valueIf a key foundation of the ideology is wrong the conclusions following from it are obviously going to be wrong.
>>109750192piss up a rope you deluded commie simpleton, if you make the state the sole provider of sustinance for the majority, you create tyranny and
>>109750192>gets offered the keys to the kingdom>refusesThus proving you HAVE to steal. It's pathological. A gift is not good enough - it has to be stolen to be valid in your world.And you wonder why you're called a thieving communist.
>>109750212>piss up a rope you deluded commie simpleton, if you make the state the sole provider of sustinance for the majority, you create tyranny andit really is that simple
>>109750212RIP anon, the commies got to him.
>>109749815>>109750057Communist cope on full throttle>Yes they starved people to death BUT
>>109749718>If AI could do what people say it wouldIf LLMs did what the tech CEOs claim, they would keep it for themselves instead of renting it out
damn, the leftists in this thread are getting absolutely hounded
>not even part of working class>still subscribe to communist ideology:|
>>109750250Not a single person in this thread claimed communism.
>>109750192>I think unionization and democratic means of achieving a socialist state is achievable.>>109750147>You are wrong. You should read Marxist Theory, even if you don't agree with everthing Marx wrote, he offers a lot of useful material.Yeah? You should read these. I have and they were written by someone vastly more profficient with Marist theory than you, fucking idiot. I fucvking hate smooth brained normie 'socialist' pseud redditors like you with a passion. You a fucking bum and you are not well read or a thinking you are a waste product of low IQ echo chambering. Since you are incapable of reading anthing much longer than this post I'll sum it up for you, MARXISM results in tyranny and stagnationSOCIALISM results in tyranny and stagnationNod slowly if you understand.
>>109750264>You should read Marxist Theory
>>109750213All left wing economic thought is ultimately founded on jelously and a burning desire to steal other peoples property and freedom rather than to advance others to wealth and freedom.
>>109750265If they understood anything beyond "mememememeMEMEMEMEEEEEE", they wouldn't be communists.There's a reason why women and children are communists by nature.
>>109750265I don't really feel like reading a critique of Marxism. I am not a Marxist myself. I have literally said as much. I am a socialist. What is your specific criticism of (democratic) socialism - I will debate that. But you are acting emotionally, caps locking words, insinuating like you have a gun at my head and commanding me to nod slowly. You're definitely not civil. And any time I see the phrase "Golden Age" I just get disgusted.
>>109749718Yeah just like they stopped all those school shootings and eliminated terrorism! Even as a kid I wasn’t this naive.
>>109750278Succinct and spectacularly accurate.You win the internets today, anon.
>>109750272By your logic, anyone who has read Mein Kampf would be a Nazi. Doesn't work that way. Marx is not forbidden teaching material, at least where i live.
>>109750287oh fuck off dipshit, you're a retarded bore and have nothing of value to say, you are unread and nonsensical like all your wittering commie kind..who can do nothing but advocate theft and create tyranny and poverty via totalitarian states with no regard to the rights of men to be left alone by cunts like you.
>>109749718everything moves extremely slow. it's not like one day AI becomes good and suddenly everything is automated. People start integrating it into their workflows, new projects are designed around AI, etc.
A lot of people are going to soon find out that just because they're americans, or white people, or educated, or whatever, that to the rich and powerful they will never be anything more than third worlders who aren't even people in their eyes. No help is coming, fren.
>>109750287>I don't really feel like reading a critique of MarxismIt's the accepted master work on Marxism you spastic, go seethe.
>>109750265And apparently capitalism results in a cabal of pedophiles running everything and the population being made completely redundant. Stagnation sounds bad, but if we just stagnated in 1995 everything would be great. Yeah your TV would be 95 lbs but at least it didn't send the audio of you masturbating back to LG.
>>109750325The difference is, unlike third-worlders, we can actually create systems and institutions that don't involve enslaving the smart providers to the useless parasites.There's a reason why (((they))) elected to flood our countries with browns, instead of just making us dumber through the education system they already controlled: Us White people simply can't be forced to be that stupid and useless.
>>109750320idk why you keep calling me commie, i'm not
>>109750340Notice how many mental illnesses this anon had to reveal he suffers from in order to make his worldview work.
>>109750287Something tells me you'v never read pic related either which is pretty much a recipe for a an Apple sweatshop in China with padded suicide nets. Why are all the reddit socialist cunts like you so completely unread and uneducated and unknowledgeable in what they want to witter about? Do books made your brain hurt?
>>109750353socialist, commie, all the same to me.scumhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd3JrFXLrA0
>>109750349I just have to ask, are you with BDC?>>109750367I'll setup a goodreads later or something. I'm currently working on some software.>>109750376Take the discourse seriously or stop talking. We are not the same.
>>109750379>We are not the same.The only thing you got right. You're a fucking idiot.
>>109750367When you internalize that leftists aren't people it all makes sense.
>>109750379>working on some softwareCute euphemism for "pulling myself".
>>109750426I'll be real, I've been spending more time around the Jewish people lately, and if I ever get the chance to vote to make dehumanizing speech illegal, I will vote 100% to ban it and lock idiots like you up. For a few days. Maybe that'd deter you from saying such shit on the internet.
>>109750308You're ironically applying that logic yourself.
>>109750439No, I'm not.
>>109750445You're just not aware of it.
>>109750448I know what irony is. There was no ironic usage. I am fully aware of what I meant when I made that statement. Continue, I will steal more of your life from you as you waste time here with me. You continue to age and die.
>>109750433>(((YOU HURT MY FEEFEES YOU MUST BE CENSORED)))And then one day, for no reason at all...
>>109750456>I will stealAnd there it is.Took more posts than usual to get this one to take his mask off.But take it off he did.
>>109750457Dehumanizing people is not a winning position for anyone.
>>109750462>hisI am a woman lol
>>109750467While your childishness, entitlement, parasitism and extremely poor comprehension of how reality works are pretty effete, I don't believe you.
>>109750485 (Me)Fuck you autocorrect.s/effete/effeminate.
>>109750463You can only dehumanize something that's actually human.Which you're doing a very poor job of convincing anyone that you are.
>>109750485I think I know who you are. baka.
>>109750506I know who you are too. Coward.
>>109749718It's not all the unusual. Governments are pretty slow to react. Besides, I think they'd sooner restrict AI than allow the general population to live such aimless lives.
>>109750507>>109750511Here we see why the 19th will be repealed.
>>109750526No, what will happen is, you're going to lose in the midterms. You might lose so royally Trump gets arrested. Seriously. People are that pissed. Women are showing out to vote more than men are, even in red states. Women are fucking pissed.
>>109750511>whore who only exists because of her holes and taking from others>calls anybody in the multiverse a cowardIt's become clear to me why women have historically never allowed any sociopolitcal power
>>109750534For someone so terrified of The Handmaid's Tale (a scenario invented by a woman, incidentally), you seem desperate to do everything possible precipitate it.
>>109750551I'm not worried all that much. Blue Tsunami is coming
>>109750534>people>>109750426
>>109750556Your ass is grass.
>>109750554Nope. Hilariously enough, the Lindsay Clancy thing has a LOT of (real, not your Reddit bots) people convinced that we've given far too much power to women. As such, it will be removed - and not allowed to happen again.Maybe you shouldn't have voted to import billions of third-worlders that we could re-learn the correct way of treating women from.
>>109750557>new york timesHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAGo back to Instagram.
>>109750551Lol the feminists want The Handmaid's Tale to happen, women just do giant shittests. There's a reason they shut up around Muslims.
>>109750565You don't scare me. You are a keyboard warrior on 4chan. The most unscary thing in the world.>>109750576No
>>109750467This is why we say "tits or gtfo".We're actually doing you a favor by offering an opportunity to leave, and quietly.
>>109750587I know I don't scare you.I absolutely TERRIFY you.You'd rather a bear, or a serial killer, or a multiple child murder over me.That's how afraid of me you are.
>>109749718UBI is not real. UBI is the benefit the sheep will espouse because they think the rich and government is benevolent.
>>109749718Wrong. UBI is a meme. If you arent worth shit, why shouldn't the government round you up and put you into camps?
>>109750581That's kinda what I was implying.Women are, functionally, retarded children - and giving them rights and/or responsibilities above that functionality level is how you get the shit western civilization is in now.
>>109750467>I am a woman lol
>>109750604Imagine typing this insane incel drivel and thinking it sounds badass.
>>109750649Imagine thinking that your magic words are any defence against my clear physical and intellectual superiority over you.There's a reason you've been subjugated for 99.9999999999999999999% of history - and soon will be again.
>>109749718>Not one single government is doing one single thing about supposed job lossesYou haven't noticed that they're all preparing for war? That's where you're going to go, buddy, right into the grinder>noooo robots will fight for meThey'll fight with you alright but you'll be there to maintain and fix them
>>109750662I am not a woman. Please stop being a cringey cuck. Also you're inferior to women and an excess male who should be killed.
>>109750669Silly woman. They can prepare for war all they like. They won't be fighting though, because nobody will fight for the nations that women like you created.
>>109750669>WAAAAAAARit's a meme. Conventional warfare is over.
>>109750681Women don't care buddy, they'll just go into the billionaires harems and they'll be fine with it, that's the lifestyle they evolved for. But you and me are going to get culled in war, so you better prepare instead of living in denial. Stock up on canned food, build a reinforced basement>nobody will fightComputer bring up any of the thousands of videos where an army man drags a random Ukrainian into a van as he screams and shouts. He didn't want to fight either
>>109750614>UBI is a memeOh it is far more dangerous and pernicous than that>>109750212>if you make the state the sole provider of sustinance for the majority, you create tyranny>>109750147>You should read Marxist TheoryI did. I read vast quantities of it and used what I learned to understand the mindset so as to better hunt and kill communist terrorists. I have waded through all of marx from the paris manuscripts, the letters, the inane ramblings of engels, gramsci, lenin, bukarin, trotsky, mao etc etc etc. What a curse to the world they were and are. One of the things that always struck me and it was always consistent is that those who were prepared to kill and maim in acts like kidnappings and bombings for these idiologies would very quickly admit they had never actually bothered to read any of the books as I had. I got to meet a LOT of marxist/socialist murderers and talk to them. They had more in common with cults like the manson family then anything else. Where there is a group of socialists there will be a sociopath in charge who goes not give a fuck about socialism at all and just enjoys being a cult leader and enjoys harming people and hurting them to remind himself he exists and how 'important' he is. Every fucking time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TK9c-caEcw
>>109750684>AI is going to end all wa-ACKYeah how's that going in Iran where the war was planned by AI? Drones aren't ending warfare, they're shifting power around, and whenever power shifts, wars happen. Drones are no different from tanks or planes, it's just a new addition to conventional warfare that shakes up the system
>>109749718I don't know if this is a serious question, but historically elites have often failed to address basic problems that affect themselves as a class. Look at the French or October Revolutions. Elites are not always coordinated, they don't agree on a solution, and there's an incentive to free ride on the efforts other elites take to solve the problem. A lot of America's elites are also morons or one-trick grifters.In this case, the lack of an income would primarily affect you, and only secondarily them. And that effect on them is speculative: there are plenty of cases where widespread unemployment and even starvation didn't cause an overthrow of elites, like the Lancashire Cotton Famines. It's quite possible that the public won't do shit even if they starve.Basically, elites don't care about you, anon. They're not scared of you. And even if they were, as a class they're not magically competent and coordinated enough to solve a complicated issue like what to do about those made technologically redundant.You're just going to have to starve, it seems.
>>109750676You will always be a real woman. You have no penis, you have no intellect, you have no emotional control. You are a feminist woman, twisted by mainstream media propaganda into a crude mockery of God's perfection.All the "validation" you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your "friends" laugh at your ghoulish ideology behind closed doors.Men are utterly repulsed by you. Generations of evolution have allowed men to sniff out bitches with incredible efficiency. Even feminists who can cook and clean look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your resting bitch face is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy home with you, he'll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected intersectionism.You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it's going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.Eventually it'll be too much to bear - you'll buy a dress, remove your facial piercings, grow your hair, and get married. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They'll attend your wedding with an invitation marked with your husband's surname, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a woman lives there. Your body will be seeded and balloon with new life, and all that will remain of your feminism is a dusty old book in the attic, with the title "The Handmaid's Tale".This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>109750717No one is going to die for meme wars. Russoukraine was the deathknell. It's over retard. They can keep hyping up shit and saying SEND ME but it won't change that a flying hand grenade will destroy you. If you want war, you need to go for weapons of mass destruction (you won't because you aren't serious).>>109750716Imagine writing all this shit instead of just accepting the real TRVKE that economics is subjective nonsense.
>>109750729>Generations of evolution have allowed men to sniff out bitches with incredible efficiency.Lol I wish that were true, women are given far too much leeway
>>109750747It's perfectly true. Men above a certain value fuck and chuck bitches. Only simps give such creatures any leeway.
>>109750720>>109750720>I don't know if this is a serious question, but historically elites have often failed to address basic problems that affect themselves as a class.stop and consider thisyou spout shitwho ever told you that 'class; a concept last relevent in mid 19th century prussia and england has any relevance at all to anything today? Don;t try marxs definition of the 'proletariat' either as that was always retarded nonsense relating to again dead paradigms from one phase of the industrial revolution.There's no point though....you are a moron. You are a living insult to the hundreds of millions who lived though poverty and lost members of their families via totalitarian marxist and 'socialist' states.
>>109750743>No one is going to die for meme warsPlenty of people will when the alternative is going to prison. Vietnam was a meme and plenty of people chose that over prison>It's overThere's literally over a 100 ongoing wars, Israel alone is doing like 5, what the fuck is over exactly
>>109750743>Imagine writing all this shit instead of just accepting the real TRVKE that economics is subjective nonsense.No supply and emand is quite real and that moves on it's own whether you like it or not. Get in the way of it and suffer.
>>109750784And all of them are stalled out jokes that will end in stalemate. Stop coping. Conventional is literally over. Drones are just the start.
>>109750775Imagine getting this sore over a word.
>>109749783this is not at all true. most people do not pay to "fund" the government. the reason why the government collects taxes is mostly to control inflation. the majority of people do not generate much real capital at all, even those who work.
>>109750785Cringey ass incel reply. To imply any economics model is real is to imply it's a hard science, it isn't. It's as made up as psychology.
>>109750743You think it's shit because it's so outside the experience of a redditor like you it's inconceivable. Yet it is true. I habe met memebers of the baader meinhof/red army faction, red brigades, ETA and many many others and spoken at length with them. All retarded scum.
>>109750818The rule of law is "made up" and try living in a society without that lol
>>109750818supply and demand exists and is, read a fucking book and stop being a dribbling halfwit.
>>109750833>The rule of law is "made up" and try living in a society without that lolLife like that....Its nasty brutish and short.
>>109749718UBI? More like total poorfag deathThe billionaires get to decide who gets food and survive because they are useful to them (can do tasks AI can't [yet]).This is the future they dream of. During the periods of unrest where those destined to die rebel, they will hide in their underground emergency bunkers, protected by their guards with Neuralink-connected shock collars with built in AI that delivers deadly shocks the moment it detects thoughts of rebellion.
>>109750857>UBI? More like total poorfag death>>109750716>>if you make the state the sole provider of sustinance for the majority, you create tyranny
>>109750833>The rule of law is "made up"No shit?
>>109750863Any idea how stupid you seem to be?See>>109750851All these borderline illiterates who can't read a book with very stong opinions about being retards.
>>109749875They better, that's where they get their money.
>>109750057How to spot some wumao mouthbreather.
>>109750851>>109750876Consider that there are folks for "prison abolition" and "community-based justice" who either don't realize how fucking horrifying that would be or think they'd get to benefit from it
>>109750297Jesus, kid. Stop replying to yourself.
>>109750895>Consider that there are folks for "prison abolition" and "community-based justice" who either don't realize how fucking horrifying that would be or think they'd get to benefit from itDuring the terror in france, in the end the grand great dictatorship of the people and the cult of reason mainly guillotined each other. Always the same pattern.
>>109750901bad news, that's not the same anon faggot
>>109750349This is actually why IQ is a better predictor for societal success over individual success. Imagine having 130+ IQ in an African village where people give each others curses and can't figure out the correlation between fertilizing crops and good harvest, or in India where you're surrounded by cow poo worshipping izzat chasers.
>>109750926Yes. Imagine having a 130+ IQ in Canada.
>>109749718even if ai succesfully takes some of the workload workers will just have to switch to other jobs, no one will give you free dinners so stop dreaming about ubi, retard
>>109750910People like to blame religion for this shit but this is just normies. Look what it took to get germ theory accepted, normies of the times were religiously hung up on the "bad air" and you had people like Ignaz Semmelweis locked in an asylum for proving that washing your hands reduces disease. Societal values can shift but then normies act like of course this was obvious (see all the people claiming that of course they'd be against slavery prior to the 19th century, or that Christian morality is just the default setting).On a side note I think a very large percentage of society would not take care of hygiene even in the modern day if it wasn't literally conditioned into them from early childhood. I had kids make fun of me for washing my hands after using the toilet in grade school. 20% of men in the UK admit to wearing a single pair of underwear for the whole week, and that's just the amount that will admit to it, same with daily shower stats. Back during covid lockdowns a large bulk of people stopped showering altogether because they had no social need for doing so.
>>109750919You're not fooling anyone, son.
>>109749815Yeah, because those just starved everyone outright.
>>109750729My sides
>>109749718If LLMs could do what they say they do, they would be hoarded and used by their trainers, not halfassedly sold in order to build the case to IPO and run with the money.
>>109750901Speaking of children, you were clearly inadequately belted as one.
>>109751059Such anger when caught samefagging, what a stupid child.
>>109751056This. It’s crazy to me that the companies selling you “this codebot will replace your programmers!” are hiring new programmers by the thousands every year. You guys have access to the codebot, do you not?
>poorfags facing deathlmao no, they are simply being priced out so they can't have children/reproduce. its a quiet culling
>>109749718>Absolute hiroshima sized truth nuke.So literally one of the smallest nukes ever detonated?
>>109750614UBI is a meme but what happens when the gub'mbt arbitrarily decides YOU are a useless eater for whatever reason and needs to get rid of (You)?
>>109749792If voting could change anything it would be illegal.
>>109751129LLMs cannot replace developers but they are absolutely being used to demand even more work for less pay.
>>109749718No one is saying a gay furry porn generator will pick tomatoes, your job is safe. You will not be receiving UBI.
AI can't replace real jobs - it can only replace make-work jobs that are downstream of government interference/regulation.What's really happening is that AIpocalypse luddites are finding out that their jobs are easily-replaced make-work paper shuffling, and that's what they don't like.
>>109749718>every government in the world would be urgently discussing UBIThey are. They're saying "we HAVE TO war away the cattle, so we don't have to implement UBI or some shit".
>>109754182I'm all for this. You soft pieces of shit cry that you can't get your avocado toast and faggot cum lattes DoorDashed to you every day, maybe a couple of years in a trench might harden you the fuck up.
>>109749718there will be not UBI just mass executionsi don't know how scam altman is still alive
>>109749718>If AI could do what people say it would every government in the world would be urgently discussing UBI right now but they are not.He thinks governments care for their people hahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhaahhaha
>>109750052If they could they wouldn't be rich, anon.
>>109750052"Rich bastard effect" has been proven time and time again not to exist. Indeed, being rich has been shown over and over to be positively correlated with altruism, positive reciprocity, negative reciprocity (tendency to punish, which is important to maintaining co-operative behaviour), donating money and goods, volunteering, and helping strangers. The only negative prosocial indicator was general trust levels - that is, rich people are worried that poorshits are going to rob, kill and eat them - and rightly so (when someone tells you who they are, believe them).
>>109754201Boomer-coded post. But I am also all for this, not because I believe in silly things like "hardening" anyone's character, but because I hate the cattle that brought about the world we are living in right now. It's not government officials who are predating on the people who do not comply with their genocidal plans, it's the cattle that do the dirty job. If it wasn't for the cattle working for the government, the people would've solved ALL the issues facing a society through that justice which is sacred.You really think people like you deserve to continue into the future? Deserve to use technology? Die in shit.
>>109754335>People who rule over you and have all the money postWell, yes. Until you have the stones to get up and wipe your own asses, that's how it will stay.You, and a lot of your ilk, are under the impression that you just inherit the world, tax-free from your ancestors. No, you earn it - as boomers have demonstrated, your ancestors are quite capable of destroying your "entitlements" if they think you're unworthy of them.
>>109749718>every government in the world would be urgently discussing UBI right now but they are not. They gave the killer vaccine to millions. There's no such urgency.
>>109754362>Until you have the stones to get up and wipe your own asses, that's how it will stay.Wait, are you unironically a boomer? A naive, conceited boomer? With each post I get convinced more and more that you are. You really think the issue is in the "softness" of present generations? You think it's because nobody is trying to fix thing and not that the people trying to fix things are incriminated by those who should've been grateful to them?I can observe the war firsthand outside of my window, and the cattle are not getting any "harder" or smarter. Women still think they are entitled to equality, men are still willing to fight for their slavery and humiliation. And the old, shit generations, like yours who do not possess any more wisdom then their children are still oblivious to the fact that you've been played and refuse to admit that you've given away the future because of your own "softness" and stupidity. A war would only be good for getting rid of the masses, they never teach anyone anything they don't already know.
>>109754603Actually, billions: about a quarter of the entire human race got at least one clot shot.
>>109751709Then I die, I guess. I never implied I am not worthless, obsolete or above it all. I'm just realistic. Eventually it will have to happen. UBI is feeding the problem.
>>109754335Truth-coded* post you mean. You really are as weak as he said.
>>109754620Nope, I'm a millennial that grew up.That's why I have money that I earned, houses that I own, investments that I have - and you're on an anonymous freetard safespace imageboard alternating between begging for handouts, and thinly-veiled threats to steal from and murder people who can be bothered to get out of bed in the morning.Try it some time, dude. You might not have such a pathetic life.
>>109754603>A killer vaccine so effective... The world population is still exponentially growing Uh, ok schizo retard.
>>109749718>If AI could do what people say it would every government in the world would be urgently discussing UBI right now but they are not.Why pay the peasant credits when they can just go and die?What use are they?
>>109749783>millions of poor kids are starving right nowpretend like I posted that image with the japanese feeding africans who proceed to make more kids who starve again, I lost the pic
>>109754713What do you get if you feed a million starving africans?3 million starving africans
>>109754706It's like boomers: old-age pensions have always been there for as long as they've been conscious, so they're absolutely incapable of envisaging a world where they don't exist.Welfare parasites are the same: NEETbux have always been there for as long as they've been conscious, so they're absolutely incapable of envisaging a world where they don't exist.
>>109754629Then what's the "solution"?
>>109754972You know what the solution is.You just don't have the guts to do it.
>>109754972joining the 1% lolfind yourself a girl with big khazar milkers and a rich father
>>109754303Source?
>>109755014The irony is, if you live in a first-world country, you already are in the top 5%. If you're in the US, more like top 2%.So it's not a huge jump, even for a welfare parasite.
>>109755056https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2023-34988-001
>>109755004>Vague posting Neither do you Mr Punisher lol
>>109755091>DNB postingew botha
>>109755093I've already done it. If you don't act quickly, you'll either be my slave, or you and your family will be somewhere between fertilizer for my flower bed, or clean fill for my pool yard.Which one it will be is the part we don't know yet.
>>109755127What makes you so certain you'll be shielded enough that he won't just kill you? You have any security guarding you?
>>109755147Why would he even consider touching me? Has he suddenly forgotten what will happen to his entire family upon any response other than "yes sir" and immediate compliance?
>>109755204Why do you assume he has a family, or cares that much for them, or that his care for the family overweights his hatred of you? That is not at all a convincing argument you are presenting. I'd take my chance and kill you anyway.
>>109755091Lol, is that the only source you can find? It's just an abstract. What did they actually do in the study?Really, no correlation? What about starting wars, price gouging, private equity destroying companies, etc.
>>109755231Because people generally do. You can do the edgy teen thing that you hate your family, or LARP that you were created ex nihilo - but nobody's going to buy it, anon. The whole "surveillance state" thing knows exactly what your weak spots are.
>>109755241I'm sorry you're poor and can't read the whole thing.But that's OK, I'm sure facts, figures, hundreds of thousands of participants from almost 80 countries aren't going to convince you.You want an excuse to take rich people's stuff, and if you don't have one, you'll invent one.
>>109749718You think any government would subsidize people that are no longer needed? Open a history book bucko.
>>109755247>Because people generally do>generallyNot that much anymore, tuff guy. People are much more atomized these days. The youngest generation don't have families and rightly despise their parents. I can't think of anyone in my present vicinity that would sacrifice their interests for the sake of their "family". Keep thinking it's an "edgy teen thing" though, makes you either for him to kill you.
>>109755301Since you've essentially just repeated yourself, I'll return the favor: you can do the edgy teen thing that you hate your family, or LARP that you were created ex nihilo - but nobody's going to buy it, anon.
>>109755263Where is the whole article? You're so stupid that you didn't even link to the whole article. And you don't have an argument against what I've said as expected.
>>109755395>Read Article link literally on the right sidebar>of course, you have to pay if you're some neet in his moms basementSucks to suck, fertilizer.
>>109755423You have no argument. I'm not paying to read that PDF. You're just a NEET projecting your worthlessness.
>>109755443All human beings have inherent worth.
>>109755443No, you're just an envious poorshit looking for an excuse to steal my money.I've seen a million like you, I'll see a million more. Like mosquitoes, but worse because to take up more space and I can't kill you (yet) for sucking my blood.
>>109755507You sound totally unhinged.
>>109755656Your entire existence is built on envy and projection.It's actually quite funny.
>>109749754Rich people aren't productive.
>>109755779Sometimes they are.
>>109755779Quite the contrary - rich people are the reason you don't live in a cave, starving and being slowly eaten by tuberculosis.I love this implication that people who are born, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, die are somehow the true engines of the world - and the people who invent, build, innovate, strive to reach new heights in any field you can name, somehow, magically, are just useless.As I said above, but it clearly bears repeating already: poorshits entire existence is built on envy and projection.
>>109749718government always waits until the last minute to do anything and then after they decide to do something it then takes years to actually do it.
>>109749718>UBIUniversal basic income is a corrupt concept for and by malevolent brainwashed retards. Dumbfuck soccie moron.
>>109755824>and the people who invent, build, innovate, strive to reach new heights in any field you can name, somehow, magically, are just useless.LMAO that's like .1% of rich people.The rest shift money around. Labor is what keeps civilization running.
>>109756100>the rest shift money aroundYes. Money hoarded under the bed does nothing.This is what you'd do if you were rich, so you just accidentally admitted that 99.9% of rich people are bigger contributors to the world and the economy than you would be.What an epic fucking L.
>>109756125You have no idea how the world actually works or what actually has value because you worship wealth. All of that wealth they have accumulated means nothing without the real foundation of civilization. That would be labor, resources, and skill. The vast majority of rich people are parasites who shift fiat currency around that supposedly represents (it doesn't) the things that actually matter while not actually contributing any of it themselves. They get to keep their power by pointing guns at the actual productive majority. The productive have less so they can have more, all at the barrel of a gun. And suckers like you actually brown nose them.And isn't it funny that those tasked and entrusted with handling the fiat currency end up pocketing obscene amounts of fiat currency? Hmm that one really joggins the noggin. Sometimes the simplest explanations are the truest explanations.
>>109749913100,000 a year will get you a shit house in a shit city with enough money for a vacation once a year. and this is without kids.
AI is just replacing jobs that companies should have automated away long ago but were either too cheap, lazy, inept or afraid to.
>>109756193>drooling fucking parasite who can't even understand where his welfare checks come from>tries to tell anybody in the multiverse that they "hurr durr don't understand the world"Under normal circumstances I'd be amazed how you don't understand why (((they))) want to leave you on the side of the road to starve.But you are demonstrably the absolute dumbest piece of shit ever to waste oxygen, so I'm just going to laugh at you.
>>109757319Not a response lol.
>>109749718Incase you have not noticed multiple within the governing body of these United States have multiple times dropped hints about UBI / UHI coming.
>>109755824>and the people who invent, build, innovate, strive to reach new heights in any field you can nameYou're conflating the rich with middle class and above. Vast majority of inventors and scientists aren't rich.
>>109757568I'm going by the poorshit definition of "rich", which is, and always has been, "anybody who has more than me".
>>109757591You're making up definitions now. You make no sense.
>>109749833>nobody really knows what's going to happen when there's real fragmented cross-national competition that makes bullshit jobs inefficient thoughThe plandemic lockdowns have made it obvious that at least one half of all human input into the system appears superfluous.Way more than half of the world - especially in the west - sat idle for the first time in recorded history and lo and behold>nothing ever happens.No, someone having to wait seven instead of three days for their aliexpress package full of dilation paraphernalia to arrive is NOT a supply chain breakdown. Neither is individually hording a five year supply of toilet paper.
>>109749718>UBIdo you people even understand economics? this would devalue the currency, making the UBI worthless
>>109757319What kind of mental gymnastics does it take to call the type of person that seemingly "(((they)))" want to leave starving a parasite, while defending the wealthy with broad strokes as "innovators" when most are "investors" and/or just wealth hoarders, and when "(((they)))" are among the wealthy and obviously engaging in parasitism? Are you retarded?
>>109758460Explain how military benefits aren't completely destroying the economy as we speak or how taxing the excess productivity generated via robots and AI would devalue the currency
>>109749718>If AI could do what people say it would every government in the world would be urgently discussing UBI right now but they are not.Maybe they have and they concluded the most efficient thing to do is to kill 99% of people.You aren't one of those 2MoreWeeks™ Nothingburger™ anons, are you, Anon?
>>109749786But the rich are the useless eaters, while the poors are the producers.
>>109750879No. They get their money by printing it out of thin air, and leveraging their future productivity for debt financing from the international bank.Taxes are a sink used to control inflation but there are plenty of other ways to burn money.
>>109749913100k is not enough to rent a shitty roach-infested 1br and eat rice and beans exclusively the whole time in major cities nowadays. Jobs don't exist outside major cities, so therefore it is not enough anywhere. You clearly never had a job or lived alone.
>>109750024And what % of americans are of working age and not pensioners?
>>109749718no, their plan is to sit out the apocalypse in their bunkers and live in AI-powered utopiathey are not even secretive about it, they consider 99.9% of population genetic trash that should be culledand they are mostly right because nobody will do a thing about it kek
>>109750349>we can actually create systems and institutions that don't involve enslaving the smart providers to the useless parasites.Really? Where? Because the only smart providers around are LITERALLY slaves right now, e.g. in academia or in the western equivalent of black companies forcing them to churn out saas bullshit on a 996 schedule.
>>109752225What jobs are these, specifically? Do you have anything to base your assertions on?This is why your retarded, incoherent memes and your ad-homs never catch on--You just make wild claims based on wishy thinking and brain damage.
>>109759094No, all of their income comes from taxes.
>>109750838Monopolies, oligopolies and collusion exist, as are forced demand schemes. For example, most people don't need a phone, but you can't get and hold a job without one. This is forced demand, because the jobs don't actually need a phone and a lack of phone would have 0 impact on job productivity.By comparison, the internet would greatly impact most jobs' productivity, but they are largely controlled by monopolies or oligopolies which conspire to raise prices and to prevent (including using illegal schemes through the legal system) any competition who dares underprice them.
>>109750958You fell for propaganda.
>>109750940He already mentioned africa and india, bro.
>>109754303L-lol? You clearly have never talked to a rich person in your life.
>>109755091>Notable are the two field studies conducted by Piff et al. (2012)in which drivers of high social status were found to be more likelyto cut off other drivers at intersections and less likely to yield theright of way to pedestrians at crosswalks than drivers of low socialstatus (SES was inferred from car make, age, and appearance).The popular press extensively featured the findings in Piff et al.(2012) and particularly these two field studies (e.g., BBC, 2015;Bilton, 2015; Economist, 2010; Elkins, 2015; Preston, 2013;Scutti, 2018; Sullivan, 2017; Vedantam et al., 2018; Wan, 2018;Warner, 2010; Woodruff, 2012). The Piff et al. (2012) article hadover 1,200 Google Scholar citations in August 2022.>. Several articles found supporting evidence for the negative relationship between social status and prosocial behavior (e.g., Amir et al., 2018; Chen et al., 2013;Kirkpatrick et al., 2015; Miller et al., 2015)Collectively, these have over 9000 citations vs your paper with only 3 citations.Wonder who's more believable?
>>109756100Show me a rich person who got there through inventions, building or innovations. They are less than 0.1% even, they're vanishingly rare and even more so nowadays.Instead you get people stealing the invention of the inventors and parading around pretending to be genius inventors, like musk. That's what rich people do in life.
>>109759125kek
>>109759104paving over vents is usually not a problem.
>>109759208you aren't going to pave shit when the nukes start flying and the total collapse of civilization happens
>>109759270Those vents are getting ejaculated into either way.
>>109749718if you earn less then $100k pa and/or are shorter then 6ft6in you will be turned into biofuel for the billionaire yachts.
>the government would care for its people and it doesnt so you must be wrong
>>109759320Yeah I'm sure billionaires will work hard to make sure the upper middle class does well LMAO
>>109759104>we'll escape to new zealand!>surely after the apocalypse the starving angry survivors outside our bunker will be peaceful and not cannibals.
>>109759341>rich people>smartChoose one. It's a story as old as time. Edison vs tesla.
>>109749718>every government in the world would be urgently discussing UBI right nowWhy? Why would everyone else pay to keep you around when you have nothing to contribute?War and conscription are far more likely than UBI.
>>109759402I keep explaining the most likely scenario so I'll repeat it again: everything, including food production and distribution, housing, infrastructure, etc. will be owned by corporations, which will effectively run the whole world. People will work as effective slaves: you get housing and food if you work for a corporation, otherwise you are off in the wilderness fending for yourself.Your children will be corpo children and will be trained since young in tasks the corpo needs to fulfil. Instead of interviews at the corp, you will interview at the level of orgs directly, which will be about as big as megacorps are today.Work will resemble government work, but with a 996 culture and constant threats so you can remember you can lose your job (and thus effectively your life) at any moment if you don't put up.You will get credits to spend on corpo-specific products and will not be able to spend them on some other corps' products. This will be mostly for entertainment and luxury items.Corpos will constantly be in a race because they will need to find a niche others don't have to be able to do external trade, while preventing espionage and copy-cats on the other side from stealing their edge.Under this model, there is no need for corpos to actually sell to customers, yet the masses still get to live, in a manner of speaking, and are still producing for the corporations.This is why it is the most likely model.
>>109749718Billionaires want to kill us all, they are anti-human psychos with an insatiable greed for power and resources. They've started their takeover politically and will now with LLMs take over the entire economy, after which all of us will just be a useless resource drain which will be eliminated one way or another.
>>109759440>you get housing and food if you work for a corporation, otherwise you are off in the wilderness fending for yourself.ie exactly what happens now.
>>109749771>Yes, we areBased. Until lawful money is restored, i see more humanity behind the homeless than behind the indebted/credited
>>109759511There are several areas of distinctions. First, housing and food is not owned by corpos so however you got money (inheritance, gift, stealing it, earning it, saving it), you can use it on any form of housing held by anyone who is willing to deal. Same with food, you are free to go to any supermarket chain, or even to buy directly from farms.All this would disappear. If you work for microsoft, you get to play fifa on xbox, but you will never be allowed to play mario on nintendo devices. You get prime videos if you're at amazon, but no disney plus. Second, you don't get evicted if you lose your job right now. So long as you can pay, you can stay where you are. Here, as soon as you lose the job you would be out. You wouldn't have a fixed residence as it's all corpo owned, you would instead be moved around as you gain ranks and change jobs. You wouldn't be able to leave and go to a cheaper country, which is a common option today if you're otherwise fucked. You also wouldn't be able to build your own house because all the material for it would need to be purchased from a corpo, which will not be doing retail sales anymore, only internal transfer.Those are just a little preview of the dynamics.
>>109759538What the fuck were you doing with that marker, you goddamn spaz?
>>109759540I agree. We already have a real-life example.https://www.businessinsider.com/billionaire-larry-ellison-employees-salaries-lanai-hawaii-island-2020-4
>>109754620yeah and that was just the same in the 80s, 70s etc etc. Youre a fucking retard. There will always be winners and losers and always have been, housing and rent has always been a huge stress and it was in the 19th century when it was way more brutal. Shut the fuck up
>>109759540Capitalism beat feudalism because permanent slave underclasses are inefficient. You need buy-in to the system for it to work. Most capitalists implicitly understand this to some degree. It’s enormously wasteful of your endless riches to constantly play enforcer on all sides, it’s far cheaper in the long term to try and bribe people into self-regulating.This is why, incidentally, modern capitalism has so many make-work bullshit jobs. You can underpay workers with the promise “the hardest worker out of any given 20 of you will be given triple the money to sit on his ass doing nothing all day” and still have enormous buy-in. Those jobs exist as a reward structure for the ones doing the actual work because it’s far more expensive to try and brutalize them into maximum performance.
>>109749718>he fell for the UBI copium(You) are simply not needed for the system to function.
>>109760222Feudalism provided permanent buy-in in ways that aren't even conceivable today. You don't know anything at all about history, not even at the pop hist level (which is all total bullshit).
>>109758490>explain this thing you didn't claim
>>109749783Right. People deeply want to believe heroic leaders exist, but not a single human has ever acted without self interest. Religious prophets understood this, that no mere mortal could be trusted in a position of power.
>>109759104honestly i think they will get hunted down either way but the people that will kill them aint gonna be castrated shitmericans or white people at all
>>109759320that's why capitalism propaganda is so effective, they make retards like you believe that you are on their side
>>109761126>>109759104One of the signs of actual retardation is the wierd belief that a secret cabal is running the affairs of the world when the reality is it's all vastly more chaotic than that. Of course to know that you have to have left your trailer and gone and seen how wars happen and how big decisions are made in corprations and the real answer is there is no real plan or in some cases no real intellect and events tend to unfold more akin to brownian motion than anything else. However this reality causes the smoothbrainn to have a stroke >there must be a secret elite cabal whateverBut there is not. That's far more terrifying for someone as stupid as you two. It's just endless layers of self serving midwits like you two.
>>109761135>that's why capitalism propaganda is so effectiveYou can step into the helicopter not for any other reason than I'm bored an you are obviously completely retarded and might hurt someone or start stealing. Free ride.
>>109759104>genetic trashGoyim you mean
>>109749718>If AI could do what people say it would every government in the world would be urgently discussing UBI right now but they are not.Wrong, governments always always drag their feet on any serious issue, until it's already become too huge to ignore. We probably need 50% unemployment for them to begin to do anything
>>109758487>>109759089>>109759166>poorshit parasite envy, becomes enraged>>109759121>poorshit finds out he's useless, becomes enranged
>>109761848I have patents, peer-reviewed publications, multiple inventions, and a PhD.What have you innovated?What rich can you point to that has innovated in the past 10 years?
My uncle that ran a cotton gin is out of a job now
>>109761870>I was born with a STD, significant brain damage, multiple cluster B personality disorders, and am addicted to crystal meth.Go big or go home, I suppose.
>>109749718They're going to supply everyone with guns and see who wins.There will be no UBI, only UZI.
>>109762263So you have nothing at all? Not even ONE (1) example?
>>109762269Nope - costs money/resources. The poorshits will all murder each other just as efficiently by simply ignoring them.
>>109762316>lying poorshit thinks anyone is going to fall for his vaguepostWhat sort of braindead loser are you?
>>109761870You dont even have a penis.
>>109762335I accept your surrender, then. Thus we have demonstrated that rich people are useless eaters, and that the poor are innovators.
>>109749754You will get the love that you deserve, from a very charming soul that will cut your hands and feet, burn alive your parents in front of you, and then butcher and cook your kids so you have something to eat after weeks of starvation.
>>109762555Unironically though the rich are the useless eaters treating the world they don't produce or help build as their playground.
>>109749718because current ai are more expensive than human labor, its not a capability thing they could easily replace 80% of the workforce if cost wasnt an issue. Give it time for models and hardware to become more efficient
>>109763942That's obvious, but there's somehow always a resident rich people cock sucker around.
>>109749718The impact of AI on jobs has been subtle so far. Its hard to pin it all on AI but also AI definitely has not helped in job growth eitherPeople are also in denial that AI is all just hype and it will die down once the bubble bursts. There has been no pressure on the governments to implement UBI for these reasonsOnce unemployment hits and stays in double digit percentage perhaps then UBI will be implemented. Not that it will matter since it wont be enough to survive anyway
>>109749913>I still think taxes on the companies and using those taxes to provide a baseline standard for everyone is very sensible.Would be the only way to avoid lot of inflation but it might not be enough
>>109750227They are giving it us to make it better for the next versions not for altruism
>>109764606This.By using AI for work, people are literally training it to be better at replacing themselves.It's like continuous, automated public beta testing.
>>109764654Why are you so eager to work?
>>109763942>>109764271>poorshit parasite envy
>>109765970No matter how much you say it, it doesn't change the fact that rich people are the true useless eaters of the world.
>>109757534Then I'll keep on trusting the plan.
>prices go up and never come down>wages pay a fraction of what we need to survive, and offer less benefits than our parents generation >housing is hilariously overpriced, even renting>your hobby of technology is 4x the price it once was, only allowing for major players to buy your hardware>forever wars in the middle east so you can enjoy a cheap tank of gas (you can't btw)>pedophile friend of the world's most infamous pedophile runs the country, and the political majoity is either "get on or get out of the way" to maintain power>activation of national guard during peaceful times to suppress protestors>cost of education is unbelievable and now barely worth it thanks to advances in AI>mass waves of layoffs flodding markets like tech with too many warm bodies, putting the employer in the negotiating seat>healthcare in America is absolute robbery, even if you have insurance>insurance for EVERYTHING (or youre going to jail)>you will drive to work. i don't give a fuck if we've "solved remote work." Boss's company has corporate real estate it needs to justify, you need a middle manager stalking you, and the city needs its cute $20 coffee options to survive :/>your supposed inheritance is spent by your parents to pay medical bills or a nursing home>the food is highly processd synthetic slop>what beauty your country once had dies due to the climate changing, or your country sold off the rights to the public lands to logging and oil companies>they are putting tougher and tougher gun laws up, which in practice, dont do anything to stop crime, but instead to make it harder on gun owners>the police are a bunch of pigs who can largely ignore legality fhanks to immunity laws and people who will trip over a dead kid to suck a hero cop's dick>the best parts of the internet are recognized as a surface plane for independent or resistive thought, and will be dealt with>if it was free then, it's a subscription nowLINEMUSTGO UP
>>109749718Let them eat cake
>>109750052They can and they do.They're more generous than you.>>109754268Wrong and nonsensical.
>>109766215>>109764271>>109763942>>109762555>>109761870>the lying leftypol commie rat parasite thinks we don't notice his samefaggingRich people have done far more for the world than you ever have.https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/05/07/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-is-wrong-about-billionaires/
>>109750057>I think it is fair to say the majority of the western government has done the same.No.You're full of shit and lie like you breathe because you're a commie rat.
>>109750057Perro Sanchez is flooding Spain with inbred Islamist turd worlders from dysfunctional shitholes.Is that who you're admiring, you piece of shit predditor?
I can't tell if it's false flaggers or if the US intelligence and propaganda apparatus has genuinely decayed this much
>>109766639>Productive vs Unproductive Labour. Does it exist or not? >Value vs Rent. Are rent collectors producing value?>Do our GDP statistics reflect real product or do they reflect primarily economic overhead?
>>109759156Says the commie rat parasite who lives in mommy's basement
>>109761135>capitalism propagandaReality itself is "capitalism propaganda", because capitalism works and socialism turns everything to shit.
whoah whoah whoah guys we got a real capitalism understander here. he's even saved some retarded jpegs on his phone to pwn the communists, better watch out!!!!
>>109750812>most people do not pay to "fund" the government.Wrong, retard.>the reason why the government collects taxes is mostly to control inflation.Wrong, retard.
>>109759135>Monopolies, oligopolies and collusion existNone of those things show that supply and demand don't exist, you donkey-brained fucking IDIOT from reddit.Those are special examples of supply and demand in action.
>>109766756>he doesn't know how basic mmt works
>>109750147you should kill yourself for shilling such an idiotic ideology that history has refuted countless times
>>109766726if socialism doesn't work, why america has a 50 year embargo on cuba?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cubathe fact that cuba is doing relatively well (under their circumstances) is proof that it actually works.
>>109766639There's more than one of us, and I can't speak for the other guy but I am pretty far right. The rich are the useless eaters. I say that as a right winger. I know babby doesn't actually understand real politics so that probably blows your mind but it is what it is.
>>109766774Why not just print less money?
>>109750743Economics isn't, but Marxism is (nonsense).
>>109766783>he thinks they have actual money printers
>>109766780They're not doing well even under their circumstances. They're short on basic supplies.
>>109759089Other way around.Entrepreneurs keep only a tiny fraction of the economic and social value they create.
>>109766780>why america has a 50 year embargo on cuba?Because they stole American property. (Commies can only steal.)>cuba is doing relatively wellLMFAO!Stupid commie rat
>>109766792
>>109766774I know you were parroting MMT bullshit, and it's wrong.You're just blindly parroting something you don't even understand, like a good little stupid redditor.
>>109766792Leftists are allergic to reality.
>>109766781You're a leftist doing taqiyya and you're not fooling anyone.Your entire worldview is driven by envy.
>>109766215>no matter how much you tell the truth im always going to lieThen shitlibs and poors wonder why they've never mattered, and never will.
>>109766820that was my first reply to you, if you would like to seriously engage with me and learn something you must first reply to the following questions. >>109766699
>>109766838>the hivemind i belong to says exactly the same thing in unison 24/7>expects to be treated as an individualWhy are leftists so stupid?
>>109766838>leftist lying like he breathesNo, you must first demonstrate, in your own words, your bullshit claims, which you won't be able to do, because they're obviously bullshit, and you're just a stupid, gullible little predditor freak parroting MMT bullshit you don't even understand.
>>109766832No I'm actually far right lol don't know what to tell you. You being awestruck by this fact doesn't change that it's a fact. I like you assume that to be on the right you have to be a corporate cocksucking fiscal conservative zionist bootlicking Epstein class brown nosing hack like yourself but alas, you don't have to be any of those things to be on the right.
kek you guys are like 75 iq retards lmao, can you even make mashed potatoes
>>109764271Ever notice how leftists always start talking about sucking cocks?It is impossible for a leftist to not post his homosexual fantasies.
>>109766811yeah, they stole the control of their own country, I agree.it's so fun to talk with people with a IQ under 100 like you, it's like talking with an ape that just learned how to lie.
>>109766851No, you're a leftist from reddit and leftypol doing taqiyya and you're not fooling anyone, xister.You'll spend your entire life seething at people who are better and more successful than you because you're a spiteful mutant little freak who knows only envy and resentment.
>>109766851>no im actually far right>stringofshitlibnpctalkingpointsmashedtogetherWhy are leftists so stupid?
>>109762555>the poor are innovators.No they aren't.
>>109766870>stole other peoples stuff as they have for 250 years>"n-no it was theirs to start with honest"Why are leftists so stupid?
>>109762555>n-no the people who PRODUCE are the worthless eaters honest guize!Why are leftists so stupid?
>can't answer three basic questions
>>109750467You're a leftist man who cut off his penis because you're stupid and gullible and got brainwashed into a suicide cult of psychotic freaks.
>>109766901It's actually 4.And we know the answer: leftists are too stupid to function in reality, so they invent a different one.
>>109766836Can't speak for the "shitlibs" but the "poors" you keep calling them is a code word for "productive". Again, these are the things that matter. Resources, labor, and skill. All of which can be misused.The billionaire has and has misused the only two they have, resources and skill. Their resources are assets bought with fiat and their skill is how to game the system lobbying politicians and shifting fiat currency around in an infinite money hack where fiat makes more fiat. They are less than useless eaters, I am being generous calling them useless. They are parasitic. At least useless would imply we break even with them existing, but in reality we lose.
>>109766870No, the Cuban communist dictatorship stole American property and then proceeded to steal the property of all other Cubans.
>>109766876>>109766883Get a load of the direction brained normie retards, how blissfully unaware they are. Good thing because otherwise they'd be embarrassed. How can someone be that uninformed and have such a big head?
>>109766927Management, capital, investment, innovation, creativity also matter, and are what have driven humanity forward.More EBT snacks for Shaniqua and her 8 kids does not drive humanity forward.
>>109766921still didnt answer LOL are you actually that retarded. This is fucking hilarious, amusing creature, come on dance for me keep at it
>>109766927most of the poor are useless eaters, especially those on welfareit is the rich and the capital stock they accumulate by providing services people want and the companies they create that advances mankind productivity-wise
>>109766961>>109766849
entrepreneurship is more important than laborif all you have is labor ("grug work hard"), you're stuck at the subsistence level of a mudhut shithole in Africa
>>109766950This is embarrassing. Do you watch that nasally jew shapiro or something? Who hurt you like this? You actually think billionaires earned their wealth what a fucking joke. No wonder you worship them. You think they have millions of times more than you because they are millions of times better than you. This is like quasi religious fervor that is required to justify their existence and wealth.
>>109766982>3 questions>bullshit claimskek you don't even understand words, it keeps getting better and better. dance for me boiiii
>>109766996Your entire existence is embarrassing, you envious redditurd.
>>109767013>>109766849
I mean I get it, you're ducking the smoke cause you're an illiterate retard but I didn't think it would be this pathetic
>>109766927Poors are born, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, and die.The absolutely opposite of productive, as everyone who isn't a delusional parasite understands.
>>109766971Yea without a few people making literally MILLIONS of times more than the average productive worker everyone would crumble to dust we owe everything to our saviors the billionaires. Quick, make sure they are rewarded even more they don't have enough! The richer we make them the better things get it all pays off!
>>109766996>billionaires earned their wealthExactly. Billionaires who acquired their wealth by creating services people want earned it.You, on the other hand, are nothing but an envious commie parasite who simply wants to steal, steal, steal.Genuinely kill yourself. The world will be much better off with one fewer commie rat like you in it.
>>109761870>I have patents, peer-reviewed publications, multiple inventions, and a PhD.Bahaha you terrible fucking LARPer.Why are leftists so addicted to lying all the time? And yet so bad at it, too?
>>109767043Every luxury a rich person gets to enjoy in their lavish life was made possible by productive people which are the true foundation of civilization while the top leech off the bottom. You have it totally ass backwards. What would a rich person have without the productive? Figure it out.
>>109766996>p-parasites are actually the producers>b-billionaires didnt earn their moneyThese are anti-reality statements designed to justify your theft and murder.This is the reason why communists have historically been executed on sight.
>>109767045Notice how your whole "argument" reduces to "me envy >:("You're literally a spiteful mutant
>>109767063Productive people aren't poor though.
>I present you with several repetitions of my good. goy talking points
>>109767063Wrong. Every luxury that exists today was made possible by rich people and the capital they invested.
>>109767080Yes, because all that motivates you is envy. It's the centre of your reality.You're exactly the same as a homosexual or a troon, where those facts also define their entire reality, and everything revolves around it.
>>109749718>This tells me AI will take less than 1% of jobs.wrong.it' 4%!not one, not fourty!four percent!the aposte... i mean experts have spoken.
>>109767087actually it's made in china by chinese people
Leftism is entitled child behaviour given a ideological framework.>why cant i have free shit>i want X nownownow>the people who tell me no are evil>why cant i play in the middle of the highway>gimme gimme gimme now now now>im just going to take yours>what do you mean i have to earn it just gimme
The very starting point of communist thought is theft.>seize the means of productionNot create, not maintain - steal from someone else.Everything else is window dressing.
Reading threads like these makes me realize that large swaths of the entire human population simply needs to be culled.
>>109767087Okay, one of three things is happening. 1. This is one of the super wealthy coping so they can sleep at night.2. This is bait. 3. This is a genuine cucksersative which is so jarring to see because their kind has been going extinct around these parts relegated to facebook and x. Most of whom are boomers.
>>109767133They are completely broken fools
>>109767134You wouldn't even help an elderly person cross the street or pick up something they accidentally dropped.
>>109767134Nope, he's just telling you the reality of the situation. You can't comprehend this, because you can't live in reality, and your entire existence has to be subsidised, or you'll be dead in an hour, like a retarded child.Asking you about how innovation, production, or economies work is exactly the same as asking a retarded child, and the value of your answers is actually less than zero, because the intrinsic value of your opinions is zero, yet you cost air, electricity and internet capacity expressing them.
>>109767089Yep. He's projecting.
>>109767175>and your entire existence has to be subsidisedNigger are you serious right now? The gall of you to blame me for this while defending billionaires?
>>109767195>b-but i used a magic word?!>w-why wont he just pavlov before my magic word?!Because I'm not a stupid shitlib NPC. I'm actually capable of thought.
>>109767203no you are a massive retard oblivious to reality, grasping at shadows as if they were the world
>>109767203No anon, you're not capable of thought. You're capable of parroting talking points you got from kike shapiro. I know what it's like to communicate with someone capable of thought and this ain't it.
>It's just one guy talking to himself
>>109767212>>109767216Sorry, but you're a worthless parasite and your views and opinions are worthless by extension.I listen to people who can actually survive in and handle the real world, not retarded welfare recipients.
>>109767231Probably, but at least we'll get to 400 at this rate.
>>109767237You listen to the wealthy and it shows. You're religious btw. I don't mean Christian or Jewish.
>>109767295I listen to the demonstrably capable.You listen to demonstrable parasites.This is why my life is better than your life.
>>109767408pure ideology
>>109767295I love how this NPC keeps throwing "more intelligent, more driven, more capable" around like its an insult. He's just telling us over and over that his only personality trait is envy of those better than him, while of course claiming it isn't.It's another example of how stupid shitlibs are - and worse, they assume you're as stupid as they are.
>>109767504>i choose based on results>"t-this is p-pure ideology hurrdurr"Hope your brain damage clears up.
>>109767505Leftists are so used to lying and getting away with it that they don't develop any ability to hide their revealed preferences.It's the main reason why their behaviour in public is so disgusting, and why they're such rank hypocrites.
>>109766780>if rape and murder doesn't work, why are we getting punished for raping and murdering?
>>109765970>>109766639>>109766836Still waiting for any example of innovation whatsoever from rich people.
>still can't answer 3 basic questionsthe lesser ape, homo retardus
>>109766712>no argument>schizo hallucinations onlyIs this the power of sucking billionaire dick?
>>109766766Not by any economically agreed definition of these terms.
Every leftist movement is a trojan horse: on the outside there are pleas for equality, justice and progress - but on the inside, it is full of hatred, envy and an insatiable lust for theft at best - and blood at worst - from people who have earned more than them. From feminists, to open source software advocates, to outright communists - they're all the same.
>>109766802How is that the other way around then?When an entrepreneur comes with an idea, they are forced to get external funds so useless eaters get the upside while the innovator only gets a tiny fraction and often ends up flat when selling the company. In fact, the companies that make it and make the innovator rich are typically structured such that the founders were also useless eaters and hired someone to actually build the entire company without giving them the upside potential.
>>109767753thats you homie
>>109766792Read a book, inbred
>>109766887Not as a class, i.e. not all poors innovate, but innovators are nearly universally from the "poor" class rather than the "rich" class.
>>109766898>noooo fishermen and engineers are rich>shuffling money around is very serious production nooooooWere you dropped on the head often as a kid, or did you have a bad experience with a shotgun as a teen?
>>109767074>>109767047Still waiting for ONE (1) example. You have not been able to give a single example so far of a rich innovator in the past 10 or so years.
>>109766971That's moving the goalpost. The initial post makes the dichotomy "billionaire" vs "poor", so the middle class is poor in this dichotomy, we're not talking about welfare leeches.
>>109766987Entrepreneurs with an invention and customers who need capital to turn the invention into more than a prototype with early adopters that will need a few years and millions of in-kind support to do it otherwise do not, by and large, get any capital assistance from those who could fund it.Instead, grifters who hire people to make quick pump and dump tier schemes with no innovation (e.g. today that would be chatgpt wrappers) get all the money.How is paying equity (not money of course teehee) someone to make a chatgpt wrapper more important than growing crops or catching fishes?
>>109767796The middle class is largely happy and productive.This is the issue parasites have trouble understanding: their lives revolve around being as unproductive as possible - blaming everyone except themselves for the downstream effects (poorfaggotry, being regarded as a worthless eater, their bloodlust for people who aren't parasites) is just a symptom of being worthless.If you could talk to a tick, or a tapeworm, or any other parasite-by-nature, they'd say the same things a generationally welfare-dependent NEET does.
>>109767823The middle class is largely extremely unahppy and productive. The middle class is considered poor in this dichotomy, as the middle class are not billionaires by any definition.
>>109767846How would you know? You don't know anybody from the middle class.All you have (and parrot) is leftist propaganda, which everybody except leftists knows is complete lies.
might be the dumbest fucker on the planet
>>109767858You have failed to answer any of the guidance questions or to provide a single example of a rich innovator. All you have so far is backpedalling.
>>109767864I like how you sit there seething and repeatedly calling everyone names.It's almost like you've deluded yourself into thinking your opinions matter or something.
>>109767875thats you buddy
Everyone single leftist is a retarded child, in the "zero impulse control, no understanding of how the world works, being utterly dependent on someone else to exist, everything they do is someone else's fault, etc." kind of way: it's nothing but stimulus->neuron activation->reaction with these idiots. Every single thing they see has the possibility of getting them into (often serious) trouble with their parents, police, government etc., as there's literally zero cognitive hardware to stop them going off and committing arson or something simply because some druggie they know, or a pseudo-authority figure (such as a teacher), or hell, even a TV or phone screen, said it was a good idea. It's much of the reason that media, in any form, messes up the mental well-being of leftists so much - they're so stupid and easy to manipulate.
>DONT CALL ME NAMES MY OPINIONS MATTER
What is the left's obsession with jumping in front of cars, then bitching when they get run over?
>Everyone single leftist is a retarded child, in the "zero impulse control, no understanding of how the world works, being utterly dependent on someone else to exist, everything they do is someone else's fault, etc." kind of way: it's nothing but stimulus->neuron activation->reaction with these idiots. Every single thing they see has the possibility of getting them into (often serious) trouble with their parents, police, government etc., as there's literally zero cognitive hardware to stop them going off and committing arson or something simply because some druggie they know, or a pseudo-authority figure (such as a teacher), or hell, even a TV or phone screen, said it was a good idea. It's much of the reason that media, in any form, messes up the mental well-being of leftists so much - they're so stupid and easy to manipulate.
Generally speaking, if what you're saying is receiving cheers and applause from leftists, you should check if it has even the slightest connection to reality - because there's a very good chance that you just vomited some delusional performative nonsense that's not only completely wrong, but also blazingly stupid.
>>109767891The self-entitled attitude common amongst leftists is because they're so used to doing whatever they want with no accountability or consequences, it leaves them incapable of handling negative judgement. It's why they go into completely spastic chimprage if you call them a name, for example.
>>109767911>who cares if what I'm saying is right so long as I can own the libs>>>/pol/
Schizophrenia is an fascinating affliction. It's impressive how similarly it presents in each individual (constant - but completely invisible - persecution and abuse by powerful/authoritative figure(s)), yet completely unique to them (the details always radically, radically differ) at the same time. This is because the parts of the brain that are responsible for the 'sense of self' are hyperactive in schizophrenics, which is why their delusions are always so self-centered: they're being stalked by the government, demons are living in their walls and laughing at them, their parents sold them to a sex cult, etc. The fact that it - like most mental illnesses - so disproportionately affects leftists, is also very interesting.
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>>109767923Are we doing pseudo greentexts now? OK:It's a common saying on 4chan that "/g/ is a zoo, and freetards are the exhibits". Freetards function like all cults created by leftists: they require absolute ideological conformity, they promote the sickest degeneracy you can imagine, and they defend their delusions and actions with a zealotry that would make a Wahhabist Muslim blush.A less obvious detail is that LTNPCs, Windows 7 baby ducks etc. are also type of freetard: they have the same magical thinking that holding onto a barely-functional OS makes them "l33t", the same mental illnesses running the gamut from sociopathy to gender dysphoria, the same helplessness and stupidity that manifests as begging/demanding that people port software to their platforms for them, the same low-functioning autism of 'my OS is my personality' resulting in an inability to separate criticism of their OS from personal slights, the same criminal history mostly consisting of abuses of children, women, animals and other defenceless groups, the same need for online hugboxes, echo chambers and safe spaces that will silence criticism for them - and ultimately, the exact same social, career, legal, financial and health outcomes.
>>109767940When you're arguing with a leftist (and to a lesser extent, a boomer), you're actually arguing with a TV. Keep in mind TVs can't think, can't hear you - and wouldn't even understand you if they could.
>>109767923The reason that mental illness is so deeply associated with the left is because nothing they believe in is objectively true. The "mental illness" is ironically their logic centres fighting to bring them BACK to reality.
Modern leftism is an amalgamation of various non-White religious and cultural beliefs, mixed into an even greater monster than those non-White cultures are.The "progressive stack" is just the Hindu caste system: transgenderism is heavily-influenced and validated by Chinese and Hindu cultural beliefs around eunuchs, padophilia is pretty par for the course across the Middle East, India and Asia, the recent obsession with covering women up comes directly from Muslims and orthodox Judaism, the constant, low-level hatred (or to be more precise, envy) of Whites is rooted entirely in third-world cultural fragility.This is why modern leftism only really arose in the West in the 2000s, as third-world migrants started flowing in en masse - before this, leftists were mostly just degenerates who wanted more acceptance to flout it.
>>109767923It's good that you're so self-aware of your mental issues. But you really need to get checked professionally.
>>109768001Leftism in general is actually a cargo cult. The vast majority of the lefties don't understand that money is a representation of people doing stuff to create wealth - in fact, these NPCs believe that wealth just randomly spawns into reality, and "inequality" is some rich bastards using some sort of IRL lootbox finder script and keeping it all for themselves. This is evident when they say things like "Elon Musk could feed all the homeless people and buy them all houses" - and yes, he could. But then what? Does he just feed them again the next time they get hungry? Does he keep paying their rates and utility bills? Does he do this until he's broke? And when he is, what has he done? He's ruined himself and spent the world's greatest fortune, the world's greatest fund for advancing the human race - on what, exactly? Are the people he fed and housed going to pick up the slack and build electric vehicles? Will they make their own SpaceXs and send us to Mars? Are they even going to thank him for what he's done? If you answered ANY of these questions with ANYTHING other than "hell no", you're an idiot.
>>109768001To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a leftist, tell xer the truth.
>>109768009The entire thread is you having repeated melties and being unable to make a single point or answer a single question.
>STILL CAN'T ANSWER THREE BASIC QUESTIONSoh no no
>>109768022"One day, everyone will be as ugly as I am" is actually the driver of all leftist thought.
The same shitlibs who insisted they rename the Washington Redskins, take Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben off food labels, and destroy Confederate-era monuments, are the same shitlibs who refuse to call it The Gulf Of America.
The same shitlibs who were offended by 19 year-old "Big Balls" - someone that THEY doxxed and tried to make into a news story - are the same shitlibs who demanded we listen to a 15 year-old girl with Down Syndrome about climate change, a 17 year-old schoolboy about gun control, etc.
hopefully the deranged lunatic keeps posting, need some good laughs in the morning
>>109768048Leftists aren't interested in facts or truth. This is proven by the absolute falsehoods they endlessly spin about everything from Kyle Rittenhouse, to the assassination attempts on Trump, to the situation in South Africa, to Sydney Wilson, to Lindsay Clancy. What contra-reality garbage do you think they're spinning about things that AREN'T recorded in full HD, and can be disproven with a single click?
>>109768048It's a fedbot
>>109768056Gotta protect trump and musk somehow I guess
>>109768056Leftists consist of four demographics: old people who only watch mainstream media and haven't figured it's all lies, women who've gone crazy overdosing on hormonal birth control and SSRIs, welfare recipients (which, as a general rule, includes the sub-demographic of minorities), and the legitimately-diagnosed mentally ill.
>>109768064Ever wondered why, when shitlibs hear about a mass shooting or something, they immediately parrot 'it was a Trump-voting, inbred White guy', no matter how many dozens of times in a row it's been a democrat-voting, mentally-ill immigrant? Like most things involving shitlibs, it's because they're fucking stupid: they watch Netflix, Disney and BBC where the villian is always, ALWAYS, some normal-looking White guy and, being too stupid to separate reality from propaganda-laden fiction, think that applies to the real world.
Leftists have normalised their violence, and it will not stop. It's what they've always done: their mainstream media lackeys have memory-holed the regular leftist terrorism since the 1970s including bombings and riots. They're still letting the migrants they've imported run industrial-level rape gangs on millions of British girls. Antifa, BLM, and shots at Trump, are only the beginning of a renewed reign of terror. They are not just misguided idiots - they are murderous animals, and should be dealt with as such.
>>109768056Leftists aren't people. They're just bots that repeat the same five things about "racism", "billionaires", etc. every time they speak, because that's what the screen told them to do.
The reason why so many super-woke people turn out to have histories of hardcore bigotry that would make a card-carrying member of the KKK blush, is that bigotry and bullying was simply the best way to intimidate, control and silence people until the early 21st century. After that point, performative anti-bigotry became the more effective method of ensuring compliance. You're merely witnessing the evolution of the power-hungry, manipulative, sociopathic leftist's toolset in real-time.
Try to think of literally ANY STANDARD you can try to hold a leftist to, without being called a fascist.Then watch them all bitch and moan that you not letting them rob and shoot anyone from conservative voters, to judges, to Presidents, is tantamount to Nazism.
Boomer meltdown holy shit. And he thinks everyone here is a leftist too lol. Out of touch.
>>109768164If you think people are overstating the thing about leftists not understanding the difference between TV and real life, keep in mind the Hawaiian Supreme Court cited a character who was a drug dealer from the television show "The Wire" in a ruling regarding the Second Amendment in February 2024.
>>109768048The physically weak (women, children, beta males, (You) etc.) prefer consensus, rather than fact, simply because it's safer. They consider it dangerous to ask "is this true?" as it could cause conflict - or even require them to defend their beliefs - so instead prefer to go with argumentum ad populum, "I'll be safe if I just parrot what everyone else is saying". This, of course, makes them extremely malleable to manufactured consensus, worsened by the fact that they're so terrified of any inconvenient or unpopular truth, they like to hide in safe spaces and echo chambers, only watching the news, only reading the websites etc. that confirms their "safe version" of reality they so desperately need. Incidentally, this is why historically only men were able to vote: sure, you got beta males who voted for safe, fluffy, feelings-based bullshit, but they were in the minority. On the other hand, as we've seen, virtually all women and children parse reality through their fee-fees, are easy to manipulate, and are afraid of facts. When you internalize this, you'll know why women were given the vote without offering anything in return, and why many want to lower voting ages.
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The one good thing about political polarisation is that leftists are now honest about their ends.- They shout how immigration is good because it replaces conservative voters with a permanent underclass that's completely dependent on (and loyal to) the government and welfare.- Those immigrants are up-front that they hate their host countries, their native populations and everything they stand for, and are only there for welfare handouts.- Crime is good, and police should be defunded, because they believe that White people deserve to be robbed and murdered in their own homes.- Abortion isn't a gut-wrenching decision anymore, it's just a woman killing her kid (because they view it as just another form of birth control), and they'll profess how that's a good thing.- They hold forth about stacking/expanding the Supreme Court, acknowledging it's purely so they can circumvent the constitution whenever it's convenient for them.- They're happy to tell you they're targeting Trump, Farage, Meloni, le Pen etc. specifically, that they're breaking laws (and even constitutions) to do it, and that they'll jail anybody who tries to stop them.And so on and so forth.
>>109767882The left's dominant flaw is that they completely abdicate responsibility for outcomes. Every single failure of their policies - from immigration to civil rights to defund the police - is really someone else's fault in their minds. It's why they glorify abject failures such as George Floyd so much: his catastrophic flaws as a human being - and how they led to his death - are always either ignored, or someone else's fault.Basically, they idolize failures because not only are their ideologies failues, but they are failures themselves.
High-ego, low-skill creators are the most easily replaceable by AI. This is why FOSS developers and other talentless leftists are most terrified of it.
>>109768273Cool, when are trump and musk getting replaced?
>>109768278It's impressive how quickly democrat voters went from "Joe Biden is sharp as a tack, he's not too old, he's never been better, his cognitive decline is a cheapfake, and any disagreement is a rightoid Nazi conspiracy theory" to "he's lost it, take him out back and shoot him" when the TV told them to. It's another example of how they're mindless NPCs.
>>109768288I accept your surrender
>>109768292Biden was "sharp as a tack" - until they nanosecond the TV said he wasn't. COVID-19 vaccines were "Trump's rushed poisons" - until the TV said they were "safe and effective". Kamala was literally the most unpopular VP in history - until the TV said she was going to beat Trump in a landslide.When you realize that leftists are just NPCs who mindlessly repeat what the TV says, their dangerous idiocy becomes absolutely predictable.
>>109768278The same shitlibs who claimed January 6 was an "attack on democracy", are the same shitlibs who seethed for years over the fact that Trump didn't die when a string of mentally-ill leftists started taking shots at him (and killing innocent bystanders).
The simple fact is that certain people are better than others, and morals and success are independent of each other: it is wrong to assume that the downtrodden are "good".Quite the contrary, they're often downtrodden for very good reasons.
>>109768164Anything you can get punished for saying is probably both correct and important. Leftists will say "it's because those things are false and dangerous", but there are so many false or dangerous things you're totally allowed to say: the moon is made of cheese, the Earth is flat, you can lie to people about what God wants them to do and start a cult. You can even say germs aren't real - which would cause a lot of real harm if people believed it.But no, only stuff that opposes their policies is punished. Funny, that.
>>109768314THIS
>>109768314People who have a desire for power are those who deserve it the least but it those who desire it have a disproportionate amount of it since they had the drive for it that made them set out to acquire it. Since that is already a corrupted character flaw you get a situation where corruption will breed more corruption. Our government is full of greedy power hungry politicians with that inherent character flaw discussed who are bought out by wealthy "elites" who also have a higher than normal predisposition to that very same character flaw. A society completely run by corrupt and evil people naturally create an environment which then rewards a population of like minded people who will get rewarded for their behavior as corruption breeds corruption, this is an environmental pressure which rewards genetic lines which behave badly creating yet even more bad people as bad behavior increasingly gets more rewarded and good behavior increasingly gets more punished. Good genetics are being weeded out by bad genetics.The wealthy are at the very top as all of this is happens, and it's a top down system. Money is power and power is enforced with violence. We are all being held at gunpoint in this clown world beast system.
>>109768388Your>clown world beast systemhas a name: it's "hierarchy", and there will always been one.You also wrote a huge run-on paragraph about how evil/corrupt the upper classes are - neglecting to note just how evil and corrupt the lower classes are.Imagine some low-rent jogger you know, or hick white trash, or drug-addled slut - now give her power and influence.Do you really think people like that will make the world better?
>>109768457I did address it. Bad behavior is rewarded creating an environmental pressure that evolves us to get increasingly worse each generation. It's top down though and you can see it happening. Evil must be eugenically eliminated. This doesn't require genocide. This means to have environmental pressures working in the reverse direction they currently are where good behavior is rewarded and bad behavior is punished as it should be. But just as it currently is, that too will need to be top down. Humans need leadership, bad leadership makes a bad population. Looks at civilizations like the Aztecs, just evil from the top down. At this point it's almost a silly dream to say we can vote our way into a position where this happens. The first thing we can do is ban any and all forms of lobbying from the wealthy and paint it with an extremely broad brush since every trick in the book will be used to circumvent it if you don't. Our representatives must represent us, not those who bribe them.
>>109768314It's easy to make that claim when you are willing to constantly readjust the threshold you use to define the terms. Nobody will ever argue that drug addled homeless retards are worth anything.But you have to be insanely delusional to think the richest people are there because they have ever provided value, or that the middle class is poor and getting increasingly crushed because they aren't productive.
>>109768457>Do you really think people like that will make the world better?Much better question: do you really think people like that will make the world worse?If you answer 'yes' to this, you have an IQ far below 65.
>>109768527>I did address itNot really, but at least you have clarified your position - and to be completely fair to you, your post wasn't dripping with the "as some poorshit on welfare and drugs i would run the world better herpderp" that a lot of posts ITT are.But at any rate, I think I've identified the broken part of your argument: you keep going back to "bad behavior" and "evil" as if it has an objective definition. And while an objective definition could be arrived at (something like "benefits the least amount of people" might work as a first-order approximation), good luck getting everybody to agree to that once you start hammering out details.I have a more karma-based interpretation: people who are suffering are probably evil, because if they were good, they wouldn't be suffering. There are exceptions, like every rule that applies to billions of data points (there are plenty of self-serving scumbags doing well for themselves), but again, first-order approximation.>Evil must be eugenically eliminatedHilariously enough, it already is: 60 million babies has been killed through abortion since Roe v. Wade became law. Virtually all of them would have grown up to be a criminal, leftist or psychopath.> At this point it's almost a silly dream to say we can vote our way into a position where this happensAgreed.>Our representatives must represent us, not those who bribe them.This I can't agree with. Democracy is precisely how we got into this mess in the first place.
>>109768720Nobody said anything about druggies except you. Meds, now.
>>109768553The middle class is being crushed because they're the demographic where revolutions come from.Marx was a fucktard - there can never be any "dictatorship of the proles": lower classes are too useless and stupid for revolution to come from - and besides, at least today, they're too dependent on the government to bite the hand that feeds them.The managerial classes are the same: they're entirely dependent on the pseudo-welfare of make-work, paper-shuffling jobs that infinity government regulation brings, and know their gravy trains are the first that will derail in a revolution.The "billionaires" that poorshits whine about are largely insulated from the vagaries of "bad" government by the width of their wallets: they can up and leave, or follow the money, or even challenge/bribe government themselves if something doesn't suit them - again, not a vector full-blown revolution can or will come from.
>>109768563>the world is so bad now because of evil, corruption etc.>you must be really stupid if you think the world would be worse if we handed control of it to the demographic where such behaviors are endemicI don't think you thought this post through.The good-faith interpretation is that it's a VERY incomplete snapshot of a far larger thought.
>>109768784So you really are retarded. Sad.
>>109768761>nobody said anything about druggies>DRUGSRight-o.
>>109768797That's the joke, schizo
>>109768791>>109768799>world is evil>throw in more evil, that will fix it!I'm sorry I pointed out your position is so logically unsound.Maybe that's why you want me to take drugs, to make me stupid and docile.If you're trying to convince me that your class isn't just as evil/bad as the classes that currently rule us, you really dropped the ball on that one.
>>109768828That's one thing I'll give Karl Marx: his idea of "class struggles" was pretty spot-on.History is replete with bad people being overthrown by people who thought they were right, virtuous, standing up for the little guy... but were just as bad, if not worse, than the people they replaced.His mistake (and a common one), as you(?) pointed out above, was the presumption that the proletariat would be any different. No, power corrupts, no matter where you are in the socioeconomic hierarchy - and what's more, some low-class hick is actually going to have far less idea of how to deploy/use power than old money.It would be like leaving a 5yo in control of our nuclear silos.
>>109768828You wouldn't know logic if it raped you in the ass, because you forgot to take your meds.
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>>109768926>still can't answer the questions>still can't show an example of innovation by the richI have already discussed my innovative pedigree, directly disproving your ideas. You have nothing.
>>109768933>the questions>the questions>THE QUESTIONSObsessive behavior like this indicates a severe neurological or psychological fault (no wonder "meds" is the only thing on your mind). And you want me to hand control of the world to you.Very unconvincing sell anon, but then again, you've only had to manipulate sub-80 IQs in your life, so it's probably worked thus far.
>>109768933Are you the braindead LARPer who was trying to tell us you're a Ph.D yesterday?I seem to recall everyone laughed their ass off and moved on.
>>109768947Your IQ is below 65 and your surrender is accepted.
>>109768954Are the everyones and the laughs in the room with us right now?
>>109768955Nobody's surrendering to a nothing like you, anon. You don't matter.You clearly have a lot of trouble understanding that you don't matter. Don't misinterpret the doctors, remedial teachers, specialists in neurological conditions etc. floating around you as indicating that you matter in any real way.What you think? Doesn't matter.What you want? Doesn't matter.What you interpret the world as? Doesn't matter.I have no doubt you come from a long line of doesn't-matters, as well.
>>109768959Nice projection there Mr Ph.D.
Damn I was hoping for a 500 post-er.
>>109769436Wouldn't have been that impressive.Last big Apple poorshit seethe thread (that wasn't pinned - those can easily get into the thousands) hit 800 replies IIRC.
