So which one is better?https://soapbox.pub/blog/best-discord-alternatives-2026
>>109750964Element or Fluxxer
IRC
>>109750964I already self-hosted matrix (tuwunel). Are competitors any better? I found setting up webrtc+element call quite annoying.
>>109750964Im self hosting matrix for a few friends, werks fine for the last few years.
>>109751078>>109751111Do you get flooded with spammers or is that only for the larger groups?
>>109750964I will never understand these sorts of threads.There's no effective alternative to Discord, because Discord's selling point is that it has most of the market.There are tons of other things that the market penetration IS the selling point - Windows instantly comes to mind.
>>109751118I have restricted registration with registration key only (which is pretty long to be bruteforced) and only allowed federation is matrix.org (which still don't have route to me since I'm from Russia).
For me it's DEN Chathttps://denchat.top
>>109751121Discord is getting worse every day, and you can get banned for the silliest of things, not to mention the glowie activity.Most likely people will find an alternative the day discord goes too far, which is probably not far off. I think we can see a pretty massive exodus from discord when they finally do something really stupid. Like reddit's IPO ruining the site entirely, and using bots to cover it up. The site has been borderline unusable for a year now.
>>109751038IRC+encryption is truly beautiful>>109751121>most of the market>market penetration>proprietary protocol>nobody can make software for it>charges shekels just to change theme coloursgo away, corporate cock sucking whore.
>>109751038based boomer
>>109751186>Like reddit's IPO ruining the site entirely, and using bots to cover it up.they removed "sort by: new" from reddit's front page in order to drive engagement with days old posts and force people to scroll through more advertising or to go directly to every subreddit you're in and then sort by new from there. someone thought this was a brilliant idea.
>>109751186Everything's getting worse every day. Unless you are taking up arms against the ones that actually matter, I'd argue you're LARPing.>>109751197Glad I hurt you so much that you went into "vomit preprogrammed NPC response" in a single post.Your screaming anal pain has made my day - thanks anon.
>>109751236I'll use both reddit and discord as long as other people use them, but I use reddit far less than I used to, and I only use discord for the things I have to.The thing is that you'll have to use the things where people are. It doesn't help using something you view as vastly supertior if you're alone there. It's kinda obvious isn't it.I'll continue using reddit and discord for as long as they stay relevant, and then I'll delete my users like I've already deleted my facebook account, snapchat, and instagram.
Self hosted matrix duh
>pedo chat
>>109751236>write something about sucking on the cocks of corporations - a service founded by furry pedophiles>lol owned that anon by having a mental break down
>>109750964
>>109751316Whatever fantasy you need to cope, text on a screen.
>>109750964This table is useless for anyone trying to bring their normie friends to the platform. The categories that actually should be there:Uninterrupted uptimeGroup callsRooms or channels for text messagesScreen sharingUI that is stupid simple to understand
>>109750964The best alternative is no fake internet friends and chat in groups irl instead.
>>109750964no alternative is worth a shit until is mass adopted AKA filled with normalfag niggers which will attract pedos, glowies, bots, etc good luck dealing with the massive server cost too
>>109750964None if you have no friends.I'm on the same server of ~30 people and it's really cozy, been like that since 2016 to this day.If you need to larp something get Vestkop + Disblock Origin. But again, if you have no friends and rely on public servers with randoms nothing is good.
>>109751747In order for something to be mass adopted, it first needs to be slightly adopted, then mildly adopted.Of course, the normalfag cattle only comes last.This was the case for all social networks. Do you think it was easy for me to convince people to leave Skype and jump to Discord back then?
>>109751992>convince people to leave Skype and jump to Discord back then?there was no need cause skype was dogshit, good luck with discord though
>>109752090oh yeah? Compared to what?
>>109751078https://soapbox.pub/blog/how-to-self-host-armada
>>109750964>So which one is better?Whichever one your friends are already using.
>>109751324/thread
>>109751324>>109754044screenshare status?
>>109750964mIRC
>>109754060https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0166.html
>>109754060jitsi'd
>>109750964There is another one. Open source pretty good one made by a German guy... i forgot the name
>>109753047Usecase for "friends"?
>>109750964sharkcord looks OK but isn't sharks a tranny thing cos they end up looking like a shark bite down there
>>109751765oof. I just tried to join a public one for a bit and its always the same. General chat thats dead, everything in private channels and a seething mod.
>>109756580>sharkcord?
>>109755324good for your mental health (supposedly)
Tomato says Matrix / Element is the answer.
>>109756608(btw I mean the tomato router firmware specifically)
>>109750964federation and decentralization are the only requirements at this point and matrix is the only one to properly execute this
>>109751156nice project doehttps://x.com/DEGMods/status/2089367984309448975
>>109756606how so?
>>109751038tpbp. Email and IRC are all you need.
>>109751639Fuze Mediaboard 0.2 will have all of those
>>109756684This. Having to change protocols repeatedly is a non-starter.
>>109750964don't use matrix.org server, are you retarded why is it even listed as an option
Best self host matrix server? Reads like synapse is bloatware, is tuwunel/conduwuit good or trannyware?
>>109760753Seems like tuwunel is the most maintained, it has ties to companies and is officially backed by Switzerland so development is probably secures unless the trannies get another meltdown
>>109751236he's right tho, you are the seething retard here, you probably watch gay porn too
>>109751038This is the correct answer
>>109750964are there any public matrix servers? i dont have any friends
>>109761074>public matrix serversUsecase?
>>109761074those usually entail giving them your phone number, which defeats the purpouse
>>109750964Buy an ad. It's literally an ad for armada
>>109761724Good to know. I'm downloading Armada now.
>>109761739Damn i should start making threads shilling my products too. Underestimated the amount of mouthbreathing retards on here who immediately slurp it up.
>>109761627>those usually entail giving them your phone numberYeah, that sucks ass.
>>109750964does discord need id in the usa yet?
I don't trust anyone who just says 'screen sharing' because half the time that just means 720p 15fps
>>109762418i need at least 4k 60fps with audio
>>109762418Stoatbros...
>>109762418>>GIF keyboardpardon me nigger?
Is there any place exclusively first world, or first world passing, left on the internet? I don't even care about white only, i just miss the average+ iq internet of my youth.
>>109763447my sekrit club
>>109750964ITT pedophilia incubators
>>109762418This Armada platform looks like vibe coded dogshit
>>109751038In my country IRC catching popularity again. My fav channel since 2007 is as lively as ever.
>>109750964>self-hosts are islandsThis is a benefit
>>109765075This ^^^ Keeping bubbles of like minded people avoids some of the drama and reduces leaking personal information into big corporate sloppo's.
>>109765075Not really.
>>109765059>mIRCold but gold
>>109765075No, its dogshit
>>109750964>someone makes a cool new app/site>small community makes it grow and it blows up>sells out to jews>jews replace employees with indian hindu rape rats, who immediately start banning everyone critical of india/hinduism while allowing their hindu rape rat hordes to avoid any bans for breaking the rules>eventually all the good contributes are banned, leaving indians free to overrun the app>humans abandon the community as it gets jeetformed into India, looking for an app to escape the hindu rape ratsEvery fucking time. It's all so tiresome bros. I'm not contributing a damn thing until you show me you have a policy like Gab, to rangeban India and Israel.
>>109766263sar thats hinduphobicstop asap sar
>>109751038wtf is irc and how do i get on it
>>109765059any good scripts? Used to be tons for mIRC and theme engines with loads of themes.
>>109750964>chatting with friends/familyany will do>gaming with strangersnothing will replace discord
>>109767879boomerware unc
>>109764917meds
>>109768156>any will doeven IRC
>>109763447nope
>>109766064irssi and weechat are good, too
I would use Armada if it had a shitty electron client.
Discord is because nobody will switch to anything else.
Yeah obvious shill thread for Armada but at least it seems like a decent alternative. It's pretty quick to make a Nostr account and it looks like there's 4k60fps video calls
>>109756608Dont use element as your client. Use commet.chat matrix client with custom emotes and voice channels like discord.
Oh here is a list of homeservers. Dewrito.net has the best looking website.https://servers.joinmatrix.org/
Oh and quassel.ioThe catgirl.cloud looks schizo
>>109751156die Bart, die
>>109773289>It's pretty quick to make a Nostr accountYep, that's the best part. I can use my own Nostr key in Armada, Flotilla, DENChat (+ other Nostr apps) and they all work nicely.
>>109774251I tried out Armada. It also is a good choice. You just register with the key. The only bad thing is... idk how easy it is for pedos to register. Typically pedos use disposable emails to do thier stuff. If its just getting a key I imagine that the pedo stuff is out of control. I hope the armada team has solutions.
>>109751025Element is such a steaming pile of tranny shit, it's not even funny. The protocol simply sucks donkey ass.
>>109774575it's not different from any other platform. you should always vet who you let in your server even if it's a "public" one
>>109774640isn't element/matrix operated by mossad or something
>quest and video ads are totally optional and are a X>paid tiers are a check marklol
>>109772118goycattle mentality
>>109750964bro youcould just ask astra to make you one wtf?
>>109776262>vibecoding shitcordmost pa/g/eet thing ever
>>109751186Just like 4chan...Right
>>109750964Thinly veiled nostr shilling
>>109775251Yeah matrix.org servers are using a private version of synapse. Dont trust that.Just choose a homeserver where they are using an open source server software where you can read the code. They don't call back to israel.Dont use element, they wanna be like imessage... use commet.chat for custom emotes and voice channels.
>>109751038Shut the fuck up. Enough already.
>>109751038basedits time to retvrn
>>109776384good morning sir
>>109772005>shitty electroon clientusecase?
>>109751197>>109751186You're melting down and wish casting.Yes it's complete shit. That's not the point.The point is that people rarely migrate.
>>109763440it's some zoomer shit
Whatever you set up just be sure to block cell phones and anyone on Windows or Mac or the telemetry will attract AIDS.
>>109782094based schizo
>>109782550>based schizoSure, but my chan is nice and comfy quiet. Most can't even reach it.
>>109763440zoomers communicate in shitty tumblr gifs that were made before they were born
>>109750964XMPP
>>109782601Kek
>>109771941>irssi and weechatfeels old man
i'm hosting a matrix server for my indie web community and its pretty cool. synapse isnt bloated i have 5 gigs of ram. it also has screensharing and that's good. no need to use discord anymore aftr that
>>109784517>feels good manFTFY
>>109784603the screensharing doesn't support audio
>>109782555nice trips
>>109751025element/matrix is slow and buggy.
>>109751366>>109751236>Whatever fantasy you need to cope, text on a screen.>>109781169>everyone is melting down!>because they think discord is trashlmao>>109788400that's because it's cancer. this is what happens when jewish telecommunication business founded in israel decides to make a chat application - everything turns into cancer.
>>109750964>E2E encryptionOkay cool, i'm not hosting a grooming server or some illigal shit. What about actual features? How do they handle screen sharing and shit?
>>109784517more like zoomer man
i'm already hosting irc for me and my robots, way simpler for automationused to do this >>109782650 but it's just too much for simple text
>>109790462>but it's just too much for simple textHow so? I used to run Prosody with almost all modules enabled + some community ones, and it wasn't too much. Unfortunately, literally nobody wrote anything to me there ever, so I shut it down.
>>109751121>There's no effective alternative to Discord, because Discord's selling point is that it has most of the market.wrong, the selling point is conveniency, you sign up and immediately have have a fully working platform for yourself/friends/patreon simps, dont even need to download shit to get started. discord is not a social media where you need volume to make it worth and need to "advertise" under other people posts or whatever current thing going on. the average patreon subscribers bubble or "community servers" (aka live chat for redditors) can exist with no loss on any other discord alternative, creators dont do that because as usual "free as freedom" alternatives are straight up mechanically worse for the user that the mainstream option.
>>109790938>How so?I don't really require auth and accounts and all that for all the bots I develop. It's just for my use inside my own lan/vpn. Creating an account and that shit for every single bot is tiresome
>>109750964Armada? Interesting.https://armada.buzz
only alt i tried was stoat. embed support wasn't really impressive. auto roles don't work, you have to use a bot for that, which also doesn't work.i only used it for like a day, and the worst caveat of all, was that it would disconnect/retry constantly, putting a big dumb fucking banner at the top of the window. for people like me who keep a chat open on a dedicated screen, that was driving me insane. placed it directly into the trash.
>>109776262gtfo (((altman)))
>>109786141never understood why faggots are so obsessed with screensharing
>>109794309I watch movies and shows with my friends, but I know this is a bizarre concept around here
>>109794329>can't set up a jellyfin server>has to "stream" on discordlmao
>>109794337>bro just host an entire media server, port forward, reveal your IP address, force others to visit this specific site while you're already in a discord call, hope you don't need to transcode for everyone, and hammer your balls with sharp nailsno thanks, I'll just press the "Start screenshare" button
>>109794348trvthnvke
What's federation mean in this context? Completely separate account/friend-list/etc so you can dictate your own rules and now the owner of the software? Shame most don't support E2E for DMs at the least.
>>109796569>What's federation mean in this context?Matrix and XMPP are federated in the sense that it is a decentralized network that is very much like email. You have Matrix/XMPP servers hosted by someone (or by yourself) at some domains, perhaps example1.com, example2.com and example3.com. The users register on one of the servers and get their "handle" which consists of their username on that server + the domain of the server. In XMPP that would look exactly like email address: username@example1.com. In Matrix they use this format: @username:example1.com.The point is, all these users can talk to each other regardless of what server is anyone registered on, a user from example1 can chat with a user from example2 seamlessly. You can also have multi-user group chats. for example a group chat #our-chat:example3.com containing three users: @username:example1.com, @username:example2.com, @username:example3.com, and they all can talk to each other.This is what is meant by federation, it's a federated messaging network. XMPP is particularly easy to self-host, it is very light and requires very little RAM or CPU.
>>109751038no voice calls
>>109796569>Shame most don't support E2E for DMs at the leastYep
>>109775251really?
>>109796569Like e-mail. Shrimple as.
https://tlon.io/https://urbit.org/
>>109801047YOU'RE A POOP.
>>109762512>>109762418TeamSpeak6 does P2P screensharing that can do 4k60 w/audio if your network connection is capable of handling it.
>>109794309my friends and i stream games or whatever we want to eachother often
>>109762418>>109750964Stoat is so fucking garbage lmao
>>109751038it even handles images and link fetching, hell you can do emoticons in chat if you want, Discord has literally zero reason to exist at this point besides being a jingling key device for low IQ technologically retarded morons.
>>109750964why are they all shit soulless slop. we used to have it so much better. even skype with the ads would be preferable to this shit
>>109804967that's the fate of all electron apps
>>109750964SchaldiNext
>>109751121this. all of those so-called alternatives have a combined userbase of like 20 people
>>109805210Shitcord userbase is like 90% bots or glowies
>>109806138even the remaining 10% amount to 10000000% more users than all that tinfoil shit in the OP combined
>>109806202>remaining 10% amount to 10000000%more like 1%
>>109804768>P2P screensharingOkay that's based.Discord and all these dogshit alternatives all claim to have "screensharing" but they accomplish it by routing your screen to their central server and then distribute an extremely low-bitrate version from there to all participants.Discord does that so that can force people to pay for Nitro to unlock higher quality streaming, but I have no idea why these "free" alternatives still do centralized streaming.
>>109750964Now let's measure by the only metric that matters for a communication platform. I'm not a teen with infinite time to spend fiddling around anymore and neither are my friends. We have regular jobs and committed relationships, and when they have a small break from those obligations they want to hop on the thing everyone else has installed and click the voice channel button once to start talking.>Okay we're going to switch to [alternative] everyone download from this link and then you're going to have to make a registration key and->"why are we moving over">Well it's open source (they dont care), there isn't a company kill switch (they dont care), it's self hostable (they dont care other than the fact that they would not go through the trouble of hosting), you can sign up without personal info (they don't care), and there's no ads (there's already no ads in channels and voice calls so they don't care)>"hey i got one hour to chat tonight i'm gonna be on discord, have fun with your hobby project"I think about how hard it is to get even 4 people to consistently show up in a call to play a game or even just be around to talk these days, the idea of getting 50 people to abandon all their other discord servers and download a program when they're already content with something that is working right now is laughable
>>109750964Fuze Mediaboardhttps://fuze.page/software/mediaboard/Recently added voice calls+screensharingand it's not a vibe coded piece of software
>>109808915>Well it's open source (they dont care), there isn't a company kill switch (they dont care), it's self hostable (they dont care other than the fact that they would not go through the trouble of hosting), you can sign up without personal info (they don't care), and there's no ads (there's already no ads in channels and voice calls so they don't care)Sounds like you're friends with gigagoys.
>>109809058I can appreciate those things and they're great qualities when I'm looking for software I'm using myself. But besides one guy who works as a hardware engineer who gets it the rest do not care at all. Someone has to be pretty engaged with technology to grow strong enough opinions to drop services over stuff like centralization, it's just not gonna happen to the average Joe working blue collar and going to the bar on weekends.
>>109809058gigagoys = normalfag cattleany chat service worth a salt is gonna eventually need a lot of them
>>109751038telnet
>>109794348discord troons keep troonin'
>>109804857sounds gay
>>109808976>https://fuze.page/software/mediaboard/very nice
>>109750964spent an hour getting a new VPS set up with Mumble and nobody showed up. I'm not using discord its full of smug cliques of normie creeps
>>109808915holy /g/oypost
>>109808915That's why I don't think decentralized can ever catch on. There has to be a specific community leader, like a Youtuber, who adopts another platform, for users to be convinced to go there. That can only work with top-down moderation and a single source of truth - therefore, a centralized instance.
>>109808915/threadMost of /g/ is loner retards, they will never understand this.The chance of all of your friends being tech savvy, and mindful of opsec is literally 0.If you have a friend group server, you dont even notice most of the things people dislike about discord.
>>109805110what?
>>109816155Go back to muskbook and leave us alone then
>>109751121There's no alternative to Discord even from a technical product perspective. Open source people are too autistic to understand how to design a product that is friendly to normalfags, and professional people would rather sell slack clones than compete with the underage grooming furry app.
I got drunk last weekend and convinced like 30 people on nostr to try armada. the glussy is moist
>>109808915>the idea of people to abandon all their other discord servers and download a programtell them they can use both same time
>>109818744based
>>109760753I just use the official helm chart
>>109815420I see U leik the brown meme?
>>109812045ur gay
>>109750964one i can actually contact my family withi don't chat with children, trannies, faggots nor discord moderators
Ok but do any of these have the same smoothness and "it just works" of Discord? Discord is an Electron shitpile, how is every alternative MORE jank than it?
>>109750964Matrix is the least bad option on this list, and all lists for that matter. I don't know what Armada is, looks like vibeslobe and it's in alpha. These comparison tables are almost always useless anyway.
Is Discord down right now?
>>109823859Yes
>>109823112How does SimpleX compare?
>>109750964Wow>Never heard of it>Discord>It's shit>It's shit>No video call>Never heard of it>Never heard of it>Never heard of itGreat list, OP.
If all you want is a simple site to chat with your friends, you can literally vibe code your own discord replacement in one day with codex.
>>109804964Let it be known that high IQ gentroons are just as insufferable.
I've only tried Element (Matrix) and Stoat. UI-wise, I like Stoat better, it's less buggy
>>109808662services do it because otherwise it leaks IPs and slow/mobile connections can't handle the multicast bandwidth
>>109750964armada doesnt exist on iphone so its irrelevant
>>109767879school started schoolfag get off here
>>109751038I just wish chat history was more widely supported across the servers I used to frequent. I don't have the means of just leaving a service up 24/7 to keep tabs on channels. I don't need anything more otherwise.
>>109824682good morning vibesir
>>109751038God I would love to see irc take off again. Discord is bloatslop
>>109750964Saar
>>109791612if only there was support for anonymous accounts
>>109750964matrix is the best alternative. however it is not very useful. email is just a better way to communicate.
>>109831441zuck'd
>>109827323based autism
>>109831502>email is just a better way to communicatetrvke
>>109837178sex
>>109750964>no checkbox for voice chat or android supportnigger
>>109837741>>109762418
>>109816046decentralized doesn't have to be in the frontend. Imagine you have Youtube, but every video is self-hosted or hosted by 3rd parties. Your app is in one place, but the content is all over. Subscription is essentially preloading and you get multiple choices for that, all preloading different content. Your subs fetch the videos before you want to watch them, so you always get cached content instead of a central gigaserver streaming everything in real time. This way you can go offline and still browse hours of content.The ultimate conquest for this is Open source algorithm. You get to decide what content gets fetched for you.
>>109822468say what you want about Discord, but it got serious devtime driven by $$$. Everything with a dedicated team and a clear goal eventually gets ironed out, as long as the base is semi-functional.In truth Discord is ridiculously limited, it's a thin usability layer on top of IRC, conceptually, with nothing else on top. The moment you add anything scope explodes in a tool where people can socialize, since every user wants a whole different app if he can get it.
>>109826458>t. /g/oy normalfag
>>109840226>Imagine you have Youtube, but every video is self-hosted or hosted by 3rd partiesLike PeerTube?
>>109828579use a bouncer newfag
>>109797047this can be fixed
>>109750964IRC>>109751121>most of the market.lmao
>>109751038literally the ideal solution and everyone's sleeping on it it's not even funny>>109828579bouncer
>>109844283I'll bounce on your mom fag
>>109751038based
>>109844983>IRCwhat networks are you chatting on, anon?
>>109750964The issue is not having discord alternatives the issue is that no fucking one use them
>>109846561no u fag
>>109852739You're gonna bounce on me?
>>109831441>trusting reptilian (((zuckerberg))) appdo not redeem sir
>>109826458You wilpl never be a real /g/entooman.
>>109857152me understood this timeT. retard of >>109858110
>>109755324they're like AI agents but cheaper, a lot of downtime though
>>109831502>>109837178if i had one genie wish i'd use it to impart the world with knowledge of OpenPGP and its usage in email.
>>109859116>OpenPGPjust git gud bro
>>109750964chat over sshhttps://nochan.net/b/Text-Crap/ssh-chat.txt
>>109860278interesting
>>109858162lol lmao
>13 days old thread
>>109861814working on making it scale to 20k users on a small VM. hard to do as ssh crypto is CPU expensive.
what about sharkord?
>>109750964whichever one your "community" uses
>>109864128>sharkord?
