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computers are stupid

i love computers


got this ancient corpo LTE brick because my previous network setup was cursed beyond human understanding
and at first i fucking HATED it

ugly UI
weird menus
old modem
everything feels like it was designed by a german engineer who resents users

>plug in SIM>make gateway
>internet works
>beautiful
little while later IPv4 fucking DIES

LTE? still registered

IPv6? still alive

IPv4?
>no addr found

normal person:
>reboot router

me:
>NO
>observe the specimen


and the stupid corpo brick just keeps the cellular session alive and quietly asks the carrier again

>hello
>IPv4 please
>hello
>IPv4 please

eventually it gets a fresh CGNAT binding

WITHOUT dropping IPv6
WITHOUT reconnecting LTE
WITHOUT murdering everything still alive

WAIT

THIS UGLY OLD THING IS ACTUALLY GOOD

modern consumer router:
>internet broke :(
>please reboot me

ancient corpo brick:
>subsystem failure detected
>continue operation
>retry forever

modem is ancient
UI is hostile
speed isn't amazing

but it's apparently designed around
>networks WILL fail
>do not make it worse
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Clearly, you've never played with a Mikrotik router before.
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>>109755712
Mikrotik is absolutely on wishlist

but im on student-budget engineering rn

did way too much career shit way too young
current design requirement is basically

>ideas MAXIMUM
>money MINIMUM
>energy expenditure MINIMUM
>do not burn out again

Omada handles most of the boring routing/switching/NAT stuff
then i bolt firewall boxes and other stuff around it

LTE/5G is mostly because my old flat currently has no electricity and im living out of student housing

so this entire network is basically
>what infrastructure can L-chan build without having money OR a normal WAN connection

the answer is apparently
>too much
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>>109755820
Mikrotik is pretty cheap all things considered, but I get it, it's not exactly shoestring budget cheap, if you want built-in LTE/5G that jacks up the price, and if you're from the US then I guess there's a markup on their hardware and likely a limited availability thanks to FCC's fuckery. Or maybe you could get something cheaper like the hAP ax lite. Not too impressive hardware wise but it's still RouterOS with built-in LTE.
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>>109755616
I was reading through the greentext first and thought "that's lancom".
Unfortunately they sometimes just completely die. The issue is almost always hardware, they reinvented the wheel at every turn to sell courses but once you know how to twist your idea into a lancom shaped pretzel the software will always work exactly as you wanted. The hardware though just fucking dies. I recommend you get a second one so you aren't left with your dick in your hand if it happens.
And use their lanconfig/lanmonitor tools, they're cool, especially if you've got a lot of routers.

>>109755820
You can just download RouterOS as an ISO and install it on whatever shitstick with at least one ethernet port you have lying around. They have that shit in every architecture. If you fuck it up, which you will because lmao holy shit, you can call them and ask for advice, they will however pretend that everything you're asking them how to do is actually piss easy and covered in three different guides and they're not sure if you really know what you're doing. Just stick with them past their customer service scars and they'll help you.
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>>109755911
nice dubs

thank you anon!

will check on these pics on the web.

especically if it's smth OpenWRT-shaped, accessible, safe, failover prone.

Enterprise cisco, omada, lancom stuff may be STRONG but still do be 10 years old
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>>109755820
>again
pussy
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>>109755928

>get a second one
anon this is how it starts

today:
>cheap backup router

three months later:
>REDUNDANT WAN AND THREE ROUTING PROTOCOLS

will look into what they've got, but to be fair, my home lab needs more than 1Gbps, was plannin on upgradin it to 2.5Gbps using a PCI/PCIe Card and lowpowr workstation/server hybrid
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>>109755950
RouterOS is an oddity. It is extremely powerful, also extremely complicated in configuration, doesn't hold your hand through easy WebUI's like most other routers, and their consumer hardware is both designed like your typical SoHo devices, but also comes with much beefier guts than your TP-Links, and ships with RouterOS that has shit like BGP, on SoHo routers.
https://demo.mt.lv
They host a demo of RouterOS you can connect to either via HTTPS or WinBox that you can use to get accustomed to the UI and see what you can do with RouterOS before getting one of their devices. Sure, you can install RouterOS on an x86 machine, but without a license it's essentially a demo, as ROS is still closed source commercial software.
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>>109756042
>Sure, you can install RouterOS on an x86 machine, but without a license it's essentially a demo, as ROS is still closed source commercial software.
get a cracked one in a vm then

also thats not a demo, its kinda full feature but speed limited to 1mbps
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>>109756054
sounds like ghidra time >:)
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>>109756042
takes time to learn, i may sound corpo, but safety n integrity is the baseline, while at the same time i'm more focused on music n arts (yk when u reach a certain point and u say fuck it all to ur old j_b etc)
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>>109756118
You'll want to learn RouterOS proper, cuz one misconfiguration could compromise the security of the device. If anything that's why people say Mikrotik routers are unsafe, they don't have safeguards and it's easy to fuck it up. When I was starting off I fucked up my configuration and opened the local DNS server to the web and had some interesting DNS query mishaps, but thankfully no phishing or anything. Now I have a fairly hardened configuration that by default blocks everything and selectively opens up access to the shit that should have access.
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>>109756244
im currently checkin wether it got API/CLI or propper SSH, so i could at least emulate n play around with different scenarios (with my AI agent ofc)
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>>109755616
>>109755820
>>109756001
why do you talk and format like a chatbot
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>>109758603
its called being a schizophrenic pill addicted tranny
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>>109756330
It does have SSH and a very good command line interface, but it's not available on the online demo.
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>>109755712
>>109755911
Mikrotik is unusable if you have internet faster than 1gpbs. Most their home/office routers have only one 2.5 gbps port, what's the point of all those advanced features when your network is basically limited to 1 gbps?
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>>109758992
If your Internet connection is faster than 1Gbps you don't buy a SoHo Mikrotik. You get something like a CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS (very catchy), you then get a 2.5/10Gbps switch for your LAN, and dedicated AP's and build a proper network.
There's also the unobtainable hAP ax3 media that has five 2.5Gbps ports, but like I said, unobtainium. Technically it's been out for months, but in practice they're dealing with constant supply issues of it.
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>>109759028
That is all sfp, I specifically wired my place with cat6a, am I now supposed to buy converters for every single port? Non fibre ethernet cables is still a standard almost everywhere, homes, small offices large offices and even small data centers. Mikrotik as always will release some shit that are good every aspect but but they will be missing one key feature. What a shit company
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>>109759186
Switch. Switch, switch, and once again, switch. You're not supposed to wire up every LAN device directly to your router in a proper network. That's what switches are for, and the router is there to hook up those LAN devices to WAN, but the twist is that LAN devices don't need a direct path to WAN all the time, hence why it's better to have a dedicated switch that only then hooks up to the router. It'll also offload all the LAN traffic from the main router's switch chip, there's a reason any network worth a shit is built with building blocks like that.
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>>109759205
Mikrotik have 10 gig switches but regarding routers only their highest end routers (basically enterprise products) offer multiple 10 gig ports. Their new and very expensive (300 usd) prosumer RB5009UPr+S+IN comes with fast sfp port and one 2 5 gig ethernet (+ ton of other features that I won't need if I am getting a separate switch). In other words mikrotik is a scummy company, I might as well get a aio or a mini pc with two 10 gig ports for that price.
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>>109759186
>I specifically wired my place with cat6a
I've had so many switches fry networking equipment, I doubt I'll ever run ethernet myself. Won't be hooking up anything expensive to anything other than fiber.
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lol, I write my own chat scripts, anybody can do this with openwrt.
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>>109761621
>anybody can do this with openwrt.
im brainlet and cannot do it
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>>109755616
>OLD [CHINESE] ROUTERS ARE BUILT DIFFERENT
okay



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