Was he right?
You pay with your time, the most expensive commodity of all.Using Linux is like driving a broken-down car, it's pretty much your second job fixing it.
>>109765117kinda true but if you stick with one of the big distros, it will give you as much trouble as windows does or even less. Literally that "ubuntu is fine" normal distribution meme.
>>109764492every time I see this guy, it reminds me of a slew of articles from a decade ago that said things such as:being gay is Tim Cook's secret weapondoes being gay make Tim Cook a better CEO?how will this gay man use his gayness to make Apple better than Steve Jobs ever could...and other such irrational drivel
>>109764492Freedom from globohomo corpos is priceless, so no.
>>109764492He died
yes
>>109764492Being alive is too expensive
>>109765117I wish this was still true but it isn't. I enjoyed fixing my system back in the days. Maybe I need to switch to more tinkertranny distro.
>>109765117I admire people who have the skills and experience to fix a car
>>109767571Also people who spend time fixing their car typically enjoy it. Because just taking it to a mechanic isn't that expensive. Fixing something on your own creates a feeling of accomplishment.
>>109765117Tinkerdistros that demand busywork are da poop at some point you need to be done and just enjoy being a user of your own machine
>>109764492Why does a kernel have a billion limes of code anyway? Too expensive to maintain.
>>10976802399% of linux kernel is drivers
>>109765269>Freedom from globohomo corpos is priceless, so no.troonux is certified globohomoware
>>109768200isn't this what freefags always fought for though? To become the man? Turns out stallmans marxist manifesto can easily get hijacked
>>109764492The point of the O.S. is to get the fuck out of the way and let me use my programs. Thankfully there are stable enough modern Linux distros that let you do that easily than how it was years ago, even though it shouldn't have taken 30 fucking years to get to this point.People who play computers by tinkering with their distros 24/7 aren't "smarter" than people who just use computers to get their shit done. They just have a different hobby, theirs being tinkering with the distro.
>>109767571No, you don't. You get an ick when you see their hands covered in grease and think they're below you during this moment.
>>109768043Drivers shouldn't be part of the kernel.No. 1 mistake in Linux design.It's basically doomed in the long run because of it.
Linux is a big cost saver actually. He can say whatever he wants to inflate the ego of the consumers for the benefit of the shareholders though, that's kind of his entire job.
>>109765194The big distro are actually by far the least usable and buggiest. Mx linux is king of just werks. There are a few other good ones. But they're all niche.
>>109769483Necessary for speed
>>109769512Windows is fast and drivers aren't part of the kernel. They may run in "kernel mode" or whatever - I don't care - but they're provided as separate packages communicating with the kernel through stable and well-specified interfaces.
>>109765263Apple's value increased more than 2200% under Cook.
>>109769556It would be interesting if they went back to making modular desktop computers, so you could slot in a standard GPU and so on. Hackintosh is a thing but that doesn't make Apple any money (directly).
>>109769531If that's all you meant by that then you'll be happy to learn that linux also does modules as modules and not inbuilt to the kernel. You can choose how they are compiled in the kernel config utility. It's togglable for all modules. This is what insmod and lsmod are about (kernel modules don't show there).
>>109765117Using Linux is more like using old car, it doesn't have fancy electronics but it runs... if it breaks it's your responsibility to fix it then.
>>109769635Doesn't matter. Part of the kernel codebase = additional burden for the already strained kernel maintainers. And it's not theoretical, it already has consequences - you constantly hear about CVEs in some Super-Obsoleton-3000 driver that was enabled by default because maintainers forgot about it or decided to leave it be because disabling it would ruin workflow of 0.001% of the userbase.In Windows it would only affect users of the said device, in Linux it affects (almost) every Linux user, even the ones running servers not using any peripherals whatsoever.
>>109769745I think the ideal is, you'd have the canonical ubuntu server pre-compile your hardware's iso with only the modules needed for the PC at hand, reducing the exposure that way. I mean, the compute for that exists now honestly.
>>109769799can't you just disable drivers in the kernel?
>>109769745>shitty retarded ai generated slop "post"retard
>>109769815Yeah, you'd do that at build time but you'd also want to have loading/unloading modules disabled. You'd build a monolithic kernel with only the drivers needed by the hardware.
>>109769745False, it is not enabled in any linux install and people don't even use the module. Those are fake CVEs and they're everywhere.
>>109765117>Install PopOS in 15 minutes, literally.>Gaming at 1440p 100FPS>Runs local LLMs, TTS models, Diffusion models no problem >Maintains server stack>Content creation>Shitposting Never had a single problem. Not sure about the whole time thing. I suppose you're legit stupid, like literally low IQ, then sure. I know a few stupid people who think they're smarter than they actually are. They'll have a working system, then watch some YouTuber tell them >You must do X right now!They do it, without any clue to WHAT they are doing or even WHY. >System breaks>Retard screams: Linux wasted all my time!!! I couldn't be my fault because I'm smart! NOOOOOOOEvery time.
>>109769862Cope.
>>109769886>PopOS
>>109769898You're exactly the type of NPC I am taking about. Very low IQ.>Hey retard if you do this it will break the system>I don't care do it anyway!>Ok if you say so>Breaks >NOOOOO POP OS SUCKS AHHHHHHGiven his audience is mostly techlet NPCs, it's not surprising. Yes. I have run Pop for years, I have not had a single problem. But, I'm not a simpleton who should be restricted to Apple products only.
they really must only test on chrome at google
Y'all....
>>109769923Why does installing simple user space game-launching program ask you if you want to destroy your desktop Linux installation?
>>109769924They don't give a shit as long as stuff works more or less.You'll see a long stream of errors in JS console when browsing Google/YT is Chrome as well.Google's software is mostly garbage, especially the one targeted to developers where they don't have to care about usability/performance at all.Hiring people off math/programming competition to do engineering tasks is a meme - they get bored to easily, lack the experience to do the job properly.
>>109769946It was a simple dependcy conflict around libgbm1 with steam and pop. It was a legit issue System76 needed to address and they did address it. That's not the point. Pop did its job. It saw the conflict and warned the effeminate little cuck that if he he proceeded it would crash the system. She even read the warning out loud and showed it on camera then proceeded and acted shocked and surprised when it actually did what it said it would do.Her audience, not knowing the difference between a GPU and a CPU acted accordingly. If Pop gave no warning at all, then I would have a different opinion. What LeAnna did was akin to >If you put this gun in your mouth and pull the trigger you'll die>Pulls the trigger >NOOOO CHAT WHY AM I DEAD THIS GUN SUCKS AHHHHHH
>>109770003Why can installing user-space software trigger a "dependency conflict" that destroys your entire operating system?
>>109770049Are you fucking stupid or baiting?
>>109770052Why can installing a simple program trigger a situation where entire OS installation is destroyed with a single button press?
>>109770118Ahh you're baiting. I guess that wraps up our little exchange
>>109770134And that's why desktop Linux will always remain a meme.You think my question isn't important or maybe you don't even understand what's the implication of/reason behind it.
>>109769976Pretty much.
>>109765117I liken it to a project car that can get better 0-60 times than typical cars but worse to daily drive because something is always going on with it.
>>109770266That's because you're dumb, but you e convinced yourself you're really "smart." This is how you get yourself into trouble. You start fucking with things you don't understand and inevitably break shit, then blame the system you were fucking with instead of looking in the mirror and admitting you're just an average fucking idiot.
>>109765117Let me guess, you just woke up from coma? This isn't 1990's any more, retard.
>>109770163NTAI think the crux of it is that Linux isn't really going to hold your hand like Windows or Apple does. Why someone would go out of their way to fuck the system like that, I dont know, but I'd rather the OS not assume I'm a drooling retard just in case I intend for that specific consequence. I'm not one to "UsE cAsE" everything. And, hey, it even gives a "this will fuck your shit up, are you sure?" warning but people are too wired to hit NEXT NEXT NEXT YES NEXT like the drooling retards they are. But hey, "immutable" distros are popping up for folks like that, and everything seems to be getting shoved into a flatpak or docker (to my annoyance) so nothing touches the real system.
>>109769976>They don't give a shit as long as stuff works more or less.>You'll see a long stream of errors in JS console when browsing Google/YT is Chrome as well.They're just like me.I need to stop being like me.
>>109769531>Windows is fastSince when?
