is it worth buying a domain? or is it just a paypig humiliation ritual? also why is it called buying when clearly you rent it?
Monetarily, I could buy all 3 of these and it would be the equivalent of you buying a coffee on the way to work. How does that make you feel?
>>109766027i feel like you're farming izaat in Mumbai
>>109765990They could mandate that all domain name sales must be for an identical flat rate and domain parking would be solved overnight. But yes a domain is convenient and is worth the ~$15 per year. But I do wish one of the alternate DNS would become popular enough to incorporate into browsers. It wouldn't even have to break the existing domains, just use an unused TLD like .web (oh guess that's taken) like .gay (oh that's taken too) like .niggerfaggot and direct all those domain lookups to different DNS servers.
>>109765990>someone already has the leases on those domains>they have put said leases up for sale>if you buy said leases, you still have to renew the lease if you want to continue to exercise control over the domains
idk I just registered domains that weren't taken like myrealname.com and OPisahugefaggot.cum
Getting rid of DNS is among the first steps to fixing the Internet.
>>109766027NTA but I feel like you're flexing money you wished you had, on a dead, mongolian basketweaving forum. Weird hobby. My woman woke me up with a blowjob 30 minutes ago, how does that make you feel?
>>109766027then do it
>>109766027Very cool anon, please send your little ekitten some milk <3 meow
>>109766109>But I do wish one of the alternate DNS would become popular enough to incorporate into browsers.We could have had that with Web3 domains if only crypto bros weren't full of so much dissonance.
>>109766353Have fun typing in IP addresses. I'd much rather type in https://boards.4chan.org than https://[64:ff9b::104.16.228.229]/ which assuming it even works at all would likely result in certificate failures
>>109767350Case in point.DNS is necessary since unless you're Cloudflare you can't just get a TLS certificate for a bare IP address.There are ways around this such as getting everyone to manually check the certificates fingerprint is what it should be but good luck with that.
>>109766109domain squatting is already illegal but no one does anything about it except for ferrari
>>109767999It's not illegal as long as it complies with all of the terms of use for the registrar. This is why brands pay for shit like Marksmonitor to buy up all of them in bulk.What's illegal is obviously using it to misrepresent the brand, etc. Nobody will stop you from buying and parking some random ferrari domain.
>>109768034>Nobody will stop you from buying and parking some random ferrari domain. except ferrari
>>109768040Well they can certainly try but if you're not misusing the domain they won't have a case to argue.What they do have is a lot of money though. They can just buy the parked domain, it's the simplest option for a company like them.
>>109768058>he doesnt know
>>109768119Ferrari is a real person's name, not just a brand. If some faggot named Ferrari decides to buy ferrari.sucks and parks it what case are they going to have exactly? He can literally say, "Yep, that's my name. I bought it for myself".
>>109768119So long as you're not directly attacking Ferrari the manufacturer, then you can have a Ferrari domain and do whatever you want with it. This is why the owner of the Nissan dot com domain fought the car manufacturer. That Jew wasn't going to let some Japs bully him out of his domain. And it's why pfsense got dragged through the ringer when they registered opnsense dot com and used it for malicious behaviour. Netgate lost the case and had to hand over the domain to Deciso.
>>109768282the only reason uzi nissan got to keep the site was because he registered it in 1994 and actually used it for his repair businessnow this was 2004, courts have become even more strict, valuing who actually has more "use" for the domain so if that memorial page stays up for much longer the estate may lose access anyway because a virtual obituary is hardly a legitimate use
>>109768458Courts can't just force you to hand over a domain name, well maybe in a corrupt state they can but that depends on where the registrar is registered. Elsewhere, they have to prove criminal wrongdoing.
>>109767123NTA but i feel like youre flexing women you wished you had, on a slow but lively, congolese welding chatroom. weird hobby. i just killed a man 10 seconds ago, hows that make you feel?
>>109766027Cringiest thing I've read today. This board is so fucking dead.
>>109765990I had a bunch of non .com TLDs and they are a waste of money. I would tell people me project's address is "project.cooltld" and they would go to browser and type "project.cooltld.com".Those TLD faggots are increasing their prices for their shitty products. Guess who isn't renewing their domains that are not .com.
>>109768604thats not even that bad. 4chan in general has some weird af normies now. i recently had some fucking guy in all of my time posting since 06 talk about not flaming/trolling or whatever in a serious way. really need to filter these retards out.
ngl a sleek handle.sh domain is bussin ong(for real though lock in if you can)
>>109768537courts can decide anything retard, this isnt criminal court
>>109768621what about .net and .org?like 4chan.org?
>>109768649I never had a .net or .org but I feel like people know these are domain tlds especially .org because of wikipedia but with a tld that is some random color or word, people will assume it's part of the brand name automatically add .com.
>>109768662not really, it depends a lot on the type of organisationi keep typing virustotal.org even if its supposed to be virustotal.comi have registered [first name].net and it seems appropriatenobody uses .com for personal sites that just seems wrong
>>109768621Sounds like the people you told the address to are retarded.
>>109767350>Have fun typing in IP addresses. I'd much rather type in https://boards.4chan.orgBe honest, Anonymous. When was the last time you actually typed out a URL? Do you think most people in this day and age actually type out URLs, or do they let their OS/browser perform a search engine lookup / feed them a cached result?You know this thing called Tor hidden services and how they have these stupid long random URLs? You think people type those out manually too? Yet somehow the system works - no DNS. Curious, isn't it?
>>109768458>courts have become even more strict, valuing who actually has more "use"It's not courts becoming "more strict", it's corporations being more powerful and in bed with governments.
>>109765990That's just the first time offer, shit's gonna shoot up to 10 times the rate on the second year.
>>109767379> unless you're Cloudflare you can't just get a TLS certificate for a bare IP address.Cloudflare cant cert bare IPs either, no one can, it owns the domain "one.one.one.one" for the IP 1.1.1.1. 1.1.1.1 resolves to "one.one.one.one" like any other name and has certs like any non-self signed https.
>>109770176No one uses tor hidden services though.
>>109770422Nobody hosts websites without domain names either. The discussion is about whether or not DNS is an essential component of an "improved" Internet, not about how widely used it is.
>>109770418They do.You can even get your own from Let’s Encrypthttps://letsencrypt.org/2026/01/15/6day-and-ip-general-availability
>>109765990domains are a memebuy IPv6 addresses theyre running out soon
>>109770466Your pic rel is showing what names those IPs resolve to, and does not show or support your point.However, your link to lets encrypt IP certs does show your point (i think?) but if so, whats stopping you or anyone else from using that service? I feel like you just disproved your statement that only cloudflare can do this, with that link.
>>109770625>what names those IPs resolve toNo, that is a list of all the names that the certificate is valid for.You can download it yourself and see if you want to.>your statementYou are replying to my first post in the thread.
>>109770460DNS is essential, because everyone obviously uses it. Thats a pretty dumb non-starter. Tor you could also say uses a form of DNS but with hashes and a distributed hashtable instead of domain names and a public DNS network. The onion addresses are hashes of the sites public keys. The DHT returns the public key and the client can rehash to verify its the real one, instead of relying on a chain of trust with DNS. No one can memorize tor addresses though, and barely anyone can type one out manually. They are clicked, shared and copy/pasted. This is limiting in many ways. For example setting a hardware CLI device with its own peripherals, theres no way to copy paste or download anything to it during setup without manually typing something into it. If all addresses were tor like or IPv6 theyd be super fucking annoying to setup anything. IPv4 alone would be annoying, though do-able but IPv6 or worse tor addresses only would be infuriating. Regardless, IPv4 and IPv6 despite how super smart you are to memorize every place on the internets static IP address you want to visit, only a few handful of very robust networks can tolerate static IPs. For the rest of the internet, you need fluid (dynamic) IPs to avoid DDoSing or blocking. The only way to deal with dynamic is DNS or DHTs. DHTs issue I already described, so DNS is the only real world solution. How it operates under the hood, could be improved imo, like replaced with block chain, or a type of DHT, but I doubt that will ever change, as those types of improvements, no one cares about, since it doesnt improve the experience for end users, and only dethrones the powerful. Dethroning only works if it also adds a noticable better experience for end users. Otherwise the changes that dont improve user experience, need to benefit the powerful. Like blockchain replacing digital dollars.
>>109770802>DNS is essential, because everyone obviously uses it. Thats a pretty dumb non-starter.When you're being told you're missing the point of the discussion, your instinct shouldn't be to double down and build a strawman out of it, especially if you're gonna follow it up with an effortpost.
>>109765990>>109767339>>109767350>>109766353>>109770176https://www.namecoin.org/How come Namecoin never took off? Or is it still too early?
>>109770802>DNS is the only real world solution. How it operates under the hood, could be improvedMy point is that the "over the hood" stuff could also be done away with. We're no longer in a world where typing in domain names is necessary. The entire domain rental/verification/protection infrastructure/cabal is bloat, a racket, and a massive security liability. We can do without it and we can do better. Onion services have several ways of dealing with DDoS. They can run a distributed mesh server. They can dynamically generate mirrors, possibly even private ones for each user. Destination IPs are obscured by design. Yes, there may be situations where typing in retardedly long onion addresses by hand becomes a problem. But I think we first need to get to a stage where that is a problem to begin with - solutions will appear naturally.
>>109770176>When was the last time you actually typed out a URL?Are you retarded
Its long time for a alternative DNS system, no need for tor or alternative networks, for most things its enough to just have an alternative for DNS, modern, decentralized, potentially anonymous, DNS is a centralized trojan horse
With proof of work becoming ubiquitous due to aishitters, browsers need a dedicated proof of work API. If nothing else but to equalize the regular joe with a scraper's script.A DNS alternative could be welcome as well, even if it's just>sign each other's keys>sign a statement saying "url.whatever" points heresomething like web of trust
