I don't wanna lose my dataI bought two 12TB hard drives when they were cheap and now I have no way of backing up the data. What do I do?!
I'm beginning to worry about this myself. I bought 2x 14TB HDDs in 2023 and now they're going for 4x the price I paid for them. Shit's fucked.
>>109769174get a job
The cloud beckons...
>>109769174trannymay cartoons are not critical data. you dont need backups
>>109769237trvkereleases.moe
>>109769174I bought a 12tb before all this happened and now it is the backup drive for my 8tb and 2x2tb drives. Sometimes we must sacrifice storage space. Have you considered cutting down some of your data hoard?
>>109769174>I don't wanna lose my datasame>I bought two 12TB hard drives when they were cheapbased>What do I do?!Creating a zfs or btrfs mirror. You don't want a single point of failure for important data. Now just get a used 2 bay NAS device, have a samba share and live a happy life.
Hello beautiful noobletsIt was a really good idea to buy hard drives. I love them and thanks for asking about it. So here's you first goal: You want two copies of your data, minimum. This will protect you from data being lost when a drive is lost. Basic goals. A hard drive has, say, 2% chance every year of kapooting itself. And the real number is higher because you have other risks that cause damage to computers. And you sometimes accidentally delete things. And sometimes computers are stolen, etc.You could run the two drives as a mirror. So for two 14tb drives you would only get 14tb storage, 50% of the 28tb you bought. This might be excessive amounts of insurance if you have an other copy of your data already. And you DO sound like you already have the data. My advice therefore is going to be that you consider other ways of doing this first.Option 1: just connect the drive to your PC. format it as NTFS (I'm assuming you use windows, but if for a Linux OS then ext4 is fine.)Make a copy of your data. What do you do with the second 14tb drive? I think you should keep it fresh for when one of the two copies of data goes bad for whatever reason. Then you will have a spare drive ready to go. You already know it would be expensive to buy one today. Be glad you already have one. However (concerning the second drive:) There is no reason for it to be empty in stead of holding a copy of your data. This is an opportunity to have a copy of your data "at rest." At someone else's house, or in a safe, even. So consider using the spare 14tb drive to make a backup every year or as often as you think is good. You still have it sitting there, basically brand-new. But keep it away from vibrations when you transport it. Don't just put it on the back of your bike when you bring it home, have it in your backpack.
>>109769332This is also a based solution. Especially the used NAS.I respect the opinions of people who want to set up a configuration once so that multiple copies are kept identical immediately and automatically without any intervention of scheduled synchronizing or whatever. It lets you forget about it to an extent even if you should still make a backup that doesn't sit connected to a running PC. In order that you can be convinced you can recover anything when a ransomware program encrypts everything or your house burns down. The backup that is the most far away is the most pain to set up or maintain but it's the one that survives the most danger.Reading the advice from a Microsoft employee online and doing some searching, there is basically no guide on how to recover back to normal if one of your drives breaks and no guide on how to use your mirrored drives if your boot drive dies in stead. And so I also can't recommend it. I think that if you opened "Disk Management" on windows and made a mirrored 14tb, you would be setting yourself up with a "timebomb raid" - you give yourself a false sense of security when in fact your setup carries a very significant risk that there will be no way to get the data back when a drive breaks. I think you'd be fine if a 14tb hdd broke and you still had the other one. But your OS drive breaking and taking the access to the mirror with it would be exactly what you were trying to prevent! "derp!" So forget mirroring if you are on Windows. And don't use LVM if you're on Linux.Don't know about btrfs. Seems ok-ish? I don't trust it. I don't need to trust it. Linux mdadm plus normal filesystems like ext4 were rock-solid reliable already 20 years ago when I started making linux raids. ZFS is the coolest tech but someone who needs help making a mirror can't make use of any of any features except.... that it'sa mirror. Which is great. But you don't need zfs at all.I member now that people like btrfs and zfs for the snapshots.
>>109769174I had the same problem and bought a LTO 9 drive for this purpose. It cost me 5700$ which is relatively cheap, but still expensive as fuck. I only bought it because I think prices will only rise in the future and this will be the cheaper option in the long run, especially if you have hundreds of TB you want to backup.
>>109769237You need to fucking leave.
Ask yourself: "do I really need 24 terabytes worth of porn?"
>>109772927Answer: "fuck, yes, I need way more."
>>109772927Good goy. Data centers need that storage, not you. All you plebs use your stuff for is useless shit like browing porn. It's a good thing you'll own nothing forever.
>>109769954Even if you don't use the ZFS features, I'd still use it. Just because of the selfhealing + scrubbing. You can automate that. And if you are planning offsite backups, it will cost you even more drives, so I think mirroring is fine + your most valuable data as cold storage or encrypted in the cloud.TrueNAS Scale was pretty easy to use with ZFS management and shares. But I switched to plain GNU/Linux. I'd never use a single drive without any backups for important data, if you can't / don't want to mirror, you should definitely back up your most important shit elsewhere and ZFS + Scrubs + Snapshots + Smart health checks is definitely a must on a single point of failure, especially if you bought refurb ones.
>>109769332This is the solution. Mirrored drives are so good. I'd also have a smaller drive where I keep a third copy of the most important files, small used drives aren't that expensive.
>>109769174Beg China
Hope that you can get old 3TB drives and build a second backup NAS that has enough space. It only has to come on weekly and pull backups.
>>109769174>go to local tech shop site>check 12 tb hdd section>60'000 rub for a sata III piece of shitMy last months's pay is just 6000 above that. What do you fuckers do with tech like this? I can see use in a M.2 2Tb SSD, but not an HDD like this.
