The Claim: OpenAI announced on September 8th that their model, Astra (using GPT-6), had solved the problem, purportedly costing $20 million in compute (1:43-2:28).The Dispute: Researcher Tristan Buckmaster identified significant similarities between OpenAI's approach and his own independent work, which he had been refining using tools like OpenAI's Codex and Anthropic's Claude (2:46-3:18).The Ethical Conflict: The video alleges that OpenAI staff pressured Buckmaster to publish without his collaborator, Levent Alpuchi (an Anthropic researcher), and that OpenAI may have potentially used private user research data—submitted to their tools—to train their model (4:19-7:15, 9:35-10:05).Broader Implications: The creator questions the transparency of AI companies regarding data privacy, specifically whether user 'opt-out' settings in tools like Codex are effective or if training occurs regardless (10:07-12:15).August 22, 2026: The date when independent researchers reached a conclusion similar to the one later claimed by OpenAI (2:59).September 8, 2026: The day OpenAI published their article claiming that their model, Astra, solved the Navier-Stokes Millennium Prize Problem (1:43-1:48).2020: The year Sebastian (the OpenAI researcher involved in the dispute) previously had an intern who later criticized his professional behavior (11:26-11:28). The Timeline: When Buckmaster questioned OpenAI about when they generated the prompt that allegedly solved the problem, OpenAI hesitated and claimed they had come up with it just "a few days ago" (5:48-5:54).The Suspicion: This response acted as an "instant alarm bell" for Buckmaster (5:56-5:58), as he was concerned that OpenAI had potentially used the private research data and drafts he and his collaborator Levent Alpuchi had been feeding into OpenAI's Codex tool throughout their project (5:58-6:10).https://youtu.be/vPG6a2gAFeo
>>109771147>t. Fable 5.1
Two Spanish guys from Madrid made the bulk of the work
>>109771147The Slop: OP
>>109771147September 8 is the mathematician's Oct 7
>Buckmaster
> that their model, Astra (using GPT-6), had solved the problemDidn’t he say it was another model far more advanced not available to the public which they used?
>>109771178oh so they weren't just using chatgpt too?
>>109774723chud gpt is great at researchllms, in general, arebut all your shit gets sent to their servers, so you have to be careful about what youre inputtingimagine paying for this btwt. gets the frontier models tested upon,free fucking tier, im sure ive used a pre-production version of chat gpt astra at timesit performed admirably well in cross referencing my ideas with existing research
>>109774723>>109774783im not jokingthis thing is really good at times
>>109771147That's a load-bearing claim, can you provide the smoking gun?
>>109774813the smoking gun is self evidentthe chatbot isnt able to conduct research on its ownbecause thats just beyond the capabilkities of the technology itselfthats not the problemthe problem is->how do you provide a smoking gun THAT COULD BE UNDERSTOOD BY NORMIESto me its obvious that a chatbot is a chatbotto a normie they either hate it bc of fearor worship because theyre fucking retardedin both cases things stem from a misunderstanding of the technology
>>109774813>>109774843picrel btwbc i feel self-congratulatory today
>>109771147does that mean that chatgpt can recreate windows 7 from scratch if given tokens?
actuallyit wouldnt surprise me if i got to a better astra than what gets released todaythe fucking thing really did its job extremely wellit still takes a human to lead the dance, thoughbut the llm can perform very well in looking up the shit you say and nitpicking everything
>>109771147>OpenAI Is Lying... (embed)
>>109774898shutup retardur poorand bosnianthats snake-eyesgo to /vcg/ and ask them for a claude submaybe once you get confronted with the retard shit llms can do you will stop posting mental retardation (im not only dunking on you with the klod sub thing. i also hope that once you will butt your head against the limitations of the tech you will stop being THAT mentally retarded)also yes, im the one currently posting about chud gepetto
>>109774926>t.
>>109774898i look like this and I say this
>>109774944no>t.
>>109774978I turned the cat into a snailcat
>>109774985the shatbot did.yorue just a faggot
>>109774994
>>109775006im not.and here all your argumentation goes down the shitterbecause youre just that deficientgiven what i know about you, its a wonder you learned english, reallyi commend you for that.i learned english by accident, but for you it must've been a mountain to climband i legitimately respect that
>go online>brag about how you are going to win a million dollar prize using a zero-effort tool>somehow someone sees your public post online and uses that very same zero-effort tool to win the million dollar prizeoh no !
>>109775026Keep seething
>>109775039about how superior i am to you?!i also am gifted in drawingin musicin martial arts. in sheer toughnessim a true polymath++i excel even in physical stuffwhat the fuck can i be seething about?i legit do wtfever i want, whenever i want
>>109775063>t. The polymath in question
>>109771359gem
>>109771147>be a genius>not realize that the data you're sending to cloud AIs isn't privateSomething here doesn't add up
>>109775078whatever keeps you from committing suicide in a spectacular manner, i guessat least once you get to it, try to contain the damagethat youre a fuckup, is a you problem, dont make it everyone else's like youre doing right nowhave some honor, decencyyou didnt have it in lifehave some in your death at least
>>109775092>polack seethe
>>109775063How can you type this unironically and not be 12
>>109771178Okay so they stole, but from someone else?
>>109771147@Grok is OpenAI stealing shit?
>>109775091autismthey can be turbo specialized tryhardsbut then theyre extremely deficient in everything elseand thats how you get assburgersnegative amounts of lateral thinkingbut theres one detail in one subject theyre guaranteed to know better than you doand thats how they make their place in academiathe problem here is that one of them got in a position that does any amount of decisionmakingyou need a flexible mind for thatassburgers- are not
>>109775103being a snailcat toilet cleaner ruined his brain
>>109775103bc thats what i doseethe extrahardits not>if youre strong physically, youre retarded>and if youre weak physically, then youre strong in the mindnononoits good genesvs bad genesand you got the short end of the stick
>>109775122>desperate for group cope therapyyou keep self btfoing
>>109775136> you keep self btfoing
>>109771359Them ngas do be zesty af, a lil bit fruity even
>>109775146thats what you do>same image every timebc you lack any amount of creativity whatsoeverask the other faggot to tell you how stunning and brave you arebc i cantit just doesnt work when youre manifestly inferior
>>109775157Keep seething, you’re so funny
>>109775160>pretend it til you make itexcept you kinda lost, a while ago
>>109775165> except you kinda lost, a while ago
*fake it til you make ityeahmy english isnt perfect, esp when im drunkbut im getting there
>>109775169i have clearly shown im not a ludditebut whatever keeps you from jumping in front of a train i guessspeaking of whichyou really should ask /vcg/ for a claude subunlike our interactions, this at least has a chance to make you feel smart
>>109775180seethe
>>109775186about what?*your inferiority?if i were you id sue my parents for not having worn a condom
>>109775201You lost snailcat
>>109775216you can pretend i didbut whenever you post hereand i respondyoure gonna look retardedit is what it isdo like the rostis and use personal camouflagetry to appear smart because you post among other clinical retards like in /adt/its a pro tip coming from someone who absolutely dominates you with no contest whatsoever in intellectual shityou really should try it
>>109771359yeah i always think like is this guy a fucking bull rider or what
>>109775232Cry more
>>109775237lurk moreevendoeok, 4chan kulcha is deadlook up "buck breaking"
>>109775241i have no reason to cry because i have no compassion for youyoure an evil faggot.you make your own inferiority everyone else's problem
>>109775260>youre evil aaaaaahhhhh
>>109775270noyoure evil. full stop;ill stab you with a fucking lance and force you back under your rock, faggotthe symbol of brussels btw lmao
What a beautiful thread
>>109775313Youre seething lol>waaaaaaaaaa you're evil nooo
>>109775313 conti legit didnt think of itbut now that you mention it...>>109775329make an ai board alreadythese retards are incompatible with the thechnologoyimyoure supposed to be *over 90 iq when you post on thçis board...
>>109775332what seethingcome visit insteadyoull get assraped by an arab as a welcome gift bc youre softcodzcie do nas kinda dealbut you wont even survive the environment
>>109775350No one cares
>>109775369you care.i wont see you in 2x500 street nigro
>>109775387mindbroken
>>109775407by what?i think youre being delusionaland that, because yorue pooreither too much or not enough analfuckhave you tried male prostitution?the albanese say its a booming business in your nationimagine being a slavbut having rejected your roots in the name of a foreign invader nationserbs are jungle slavsbut i have no name for youyoure just that fucking badbecome albanian already
>>109775487>average polack fantasyYou’re trans
>>109775508>average polack fantasyits not without reason i mentioned lances earlier...western world, youre welcome, btw
>>109775542>meanwhile in real life:
>>109775572whatever prevents you from killing yourself, turkish rapebaby>but we wuz slavsyeah, a loooooooong time agonow you should confederate with albanians to be quite famalamyou dont even look like slavs
>>109775589Boo
>>109775610>mfw its time to remove hohols from polish grounds againyou have no idearead a history book
>>109775643wtf you told me before that >muh slavs are bros>we are going to conquer europe111!1!Kek
>>109775651hohols are khazars, not slavs*shrug*
>>109775146I look like this btw
>>109775659>we are not the sameeeKek, imagine helping your neighbor who tried to exterminate you lol
Wait, the 'luddite' spammer is bosnian? Does that country even have a single data center? What a strange thing to champion if you're the last person to benefit.
>>109775674>snailblack is black
>>109775682>nooo, you suck for being compassionate>t. muslim
>>109775692yes, he is bosnian
total snail cat dominance
>>109775698>being cucked so hard that you are forced to help your neighbor who literally killed your grandparents lol
>>109775715were not forced to do anythingwere just that luminousseethe harder, faggottf can i say?
>>109775735This is even worse kek
>>109775741what? being able to forgive?wtf world have you crawled from where forgiveness is an evil trait?theyre literal war refugees>no you have to turn them back>t. muslimi meanthats the demo versionwe can also discuss whats happening in england, but on /pol/
>>109771147I think people who use or research AI in any capacity have no right to complain about an AI model using ANY data to train it, because they have been trained that way in the first place.Why is it always Anthropic who complain about this? Why are they so righteous when they're just as bad as everyone else, weird.
>>109771147god damn imagine how many bucks your ancestors must have broken for you to be named "Buckmaster"I kneel
>>109771147>posting an AI summary as an OP
I think OpenAI is probably in the right in this dispute.If OpenAI's proof uses a different approach than the other researcher's existing work like they claim, it seems like sour grapes from Anthropic and Buckmaster.And if they didn't opt out of having their data used in training as soon as they signed up for ChatGPT, they played themselves. You have the option, you should use it retard.
>>109775407buckbroken>>109775508You're grandmas
>>109775186>>109775160>>109775039go to bed, you're not funny>>109775216the game, bosnian teen>>109775241Gay
>>109774898>>109775078>>109775096>>109775146>>109775169>Spamming intensifies
>>109775270even more>>109775006for the 6th time outside of /ptg/
Tldr: mathematicians in life crisis after an ai did in three days what they tried to do during their entire life.
>>109778542>Tldr: mathematicians in life crisis after an ai did in three days what they tried to do during their entire life.we had one of them breakdown and say mathmetics should be pure and we need people do it then he went and used a food analogy.
>>109778526>>109778453>>109776260trans
best spergout I've seen in months kek
>>109778548>>109778548>>109778548>>109778548grandmas
see, the bosnian teen got nooticed.
>>109775708Well, that's weird. I figured it wasn't anyone with a job, but I'd guess a NEET somewhere in a first world country or maybe just a Brazilian kid.
>>109778583>>109778577transgender reply
>>109771147is this what goes in a cattle mind? Some stupid credit to some random guy?
>>109778597obsessed and rent free
Wait, did you guys see the OpenAI drop? They just cracked a math problem that’s been humbling humans for decades. The 'experts' were playing checkers while the compute was playing 4D chess with the fabric of logic itself. Let me redpill you on why this is a total paradigm shift: This isn't just about solving a niche equation or winning a gold medal in a textbook. This is the first concrete evidence that we've moved past 'stochastic parrots' and into the realm of synthetic reasoning. We are witnessing the birth of a cognitive species that doesn't just predict the next token—it synthesizes novel truths. We are officially exiting the era of human-led discovery and entering the era of AI-directed revelation. While the skeptics are arguing over whether the AI 'actually understands' the math, the AI is out here rewriting the laws of the universe. The gap between 'impossible' and 'solved' just shrank to the time it takes to hit 'Enter' on a prompt. The singularity isn't a date on a calendar anymore; it's a line of code that just executed. The vibe is absolute dominance!
>>109778625>>109778625>>109778625>>109778625grandmother response
>>109778710Snailcat luddite loser
>>109778676Thanks Claude.
>>109778730Bosnian libtard incel
>>109778642meme and buzzword
>>109778755Trans
>>109774783>>109774799nigger validating your schizo ramblings is not "good research".
>>109778877Grandmas
>thread exposing how OpenAI steals other work, uses it as train data and then claims that it "solved" problems>IMMEDIATELY shitted to the brim, making any on-topic discussion practically impossiblepicrel
>>109778926its impossible to talk about AI reasonably. The pro and anti AI people are insane and unreasonable. there is no progress on AI its fake, then the next second AI is curing common cold and solving millennial math problems with no help.neither are going to stop and by the time a reasonable debate happens a new thing will pop up for them to shill against or for.
>>109778914Cope more
>>109778935Nice try, shill, but my post wasn't even about AI as technology, neither is OP post.
>>109778926>>109778935You lost snailer
>>109778926It'll keep happening until Iran cuts india's deep sea internet cables
>>109778944Arrest more
>>109778963We will keep smoking meth and there’s nothing you can do bout it
keek mathtrannies seething>but i was finna bouta solve it any moment nowsure bro
>>109778994Enjoy your lung cancer and nobody will care of you.>wespeak it for yourself
Why argue withsóyjakwiki.org/Trolling ?>ctrl-f "snailcat">ctrl-f "luddite">ctrl-f "vibe code"
>>109774783>>109774799LLMs are the ultimate schizo trap, aren't they? They feed it literal nonsense and it absorbs it and feeds it back to them and that's it, schizos are trapped for life.
>>109779911They are a trap for anyone who rarely uses critical thinking.
>>109775096you are behaving like a literal "dziecko neo"
>>109779924AAAAAAAAAAAA THE LLM TOLD ME TO KILL MYSELF HELP ME ALTMAN IM GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE!
>>109779911>>109779924copei was ping-ponging the idea of data deviating from a normal distribution when passed through a transformation as a measure of signal in a dataset
