A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, AI IDEs, browser builders, and shipping code with LLMs.You use Git — right, anon?## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/## News- 2026-09-14 - Anthropic reduces subscriptions's usage limits by 17% [Planned]- 2026-09-10 - OpenAI pauses new sign-ups for their $200 subscription - 2026-09-04 — OpenAI releases Astra- 2026-09-01 — Anthropic releases Fable 5.1- 2026-07-24 — Anthropic releases Opus 5## Related generals>>>/g/lmg/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or sohttps://claude.com/product/claude-codehttps://openai.com/codex/----## Promptinghttps://simonwillison.net/guides/agentic-engineering-patterns/using-git-with-coding-agents/https://arps18.github.io/posts/claude-code-mastery/## Skillshttps://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grilling is a favoritehttps://github.com/DietrichGebert/ponytailhttps://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first## Is our AIs unlearning?https://aistupidlevel.info/## Will there be a codex reset?https://codex-resets.com/## What we’ve donehttps://vcg.gitgud.site## Previous thread>>109786878
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>>109791503TRVKE
>>109791489>OpenAI, Microsoft, and Meta wire hundreds of billions to Nvidia at 75%+ gross margins>Google has fabbed custom ASICs since 2015 (now deploying TPU 8t for training and 8i for inference)>Google's cost-per-token is 30% to 50% lower across the board; Gemini serving costs dropped 78% in a single year>economic reality: Google can construct four equivalent-scale AI datacenters for what OpenAI spends on one>OpenAI spent billions on hype to acquire users who must actively download an app and remember to open it>only 5.5% of ChatGPT's users pay for a subscription; the other 94.5% are subsidized compute drains>ChatGPT market share collapsed from 86.7% to 64.5% in twelve months as novelty faded>Google simply baked Gemini into AI Overviews, Chrome, Gmail, and 3 billion pre-installed Android devices>Gemini market share surged from 5.7% to 21.5%, effortlessly reaching 2+ billion monthly active users with zero customer acquisition cost>competitors scrape public HTML, run into Cloudflare blocks, and get sued by every newspaper and publisher on Earth>Google owns the largest multimodal dataset in human history: YouTube (500 hours of video uploaded every minute)>25 years of search queries (8.5 billion intent signals per day), Google Books, Scholar, and Maps>zero licensing extortion, zero copyright settlement payouts>OpenAI projected to burn $14 billion in 2026 alone, spending $1.69 for every $1 of revenue, staring down $44B in cumulative losses>Alphabet funds $185 billion in annual AI infrastructure entirely out of operating cash flow>meanwhile, OpenAI's chief rival Anthropic committed tens of billions to buy 1 million TPUs and 5GW of compute from Google Cloud>Google prints a record $112.1 billion quarterly net profit as Google Cloud surges 82% YoY>Google invests capital into Anthropic -> Anthropic hands it back to buy TPU pods -> Google Cloud books blowout revenue -> Anthropic's valuation triples -> Google marks up its equity gains as net profit
>>109791538HAHATHAT'S SO FUNNYWHAT IF AI, BUT DOOMSCROLL MEME??
>>109791503GROK 4.7 > OPUS 5.0 > FABLE 5.1 >ASTRA
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>>109791503>>109791556>>109791534>T. ASTRALESS JEET
>>109791570those shades are coolyou are not
>>109791577im fableless i have plenty of astra with the 3 banked resets tibo gave astra is pure shit
>>109791584
>>109791643yeah you should be banned from all AI
>>109791678Site sources. Preferably specific figures. Your own post girls against your argument because you literally just told me "by the way they're losing money because they keep training". Then a business model is not profitable..... All signs point to the fact that they scaled way too high.
>>109791480>keep in mind that the electricity cost of inference is negligibleSite sources. If they were as negligible as you'd say they are then local residents near data centers would not be told "umm sweaty YOU need to stop using the electricity YOU pay for do much and YOU need to stop relying on lights so much because daddy data center needs it more than you" and people's electricity bills would not be increasing. This is not even remotely speculation or shit I just made up this has been well documented and people have been talking about it for a while. Even if you can chalk up the noise complaints and water contamination concerns to being baseless Hysteria or dramatic whining, someone's electricity bill increasing because I'm something they didn't even ask for is something you can't just downplay. You, in particular, or not paying for the data center electricity bill so of course you're going to suggest it's not that big of a deal. If the electricity costs are negligible than white at Pennsylvania bother to draft legislation explicitly telling the data "you will pay for your own electricity like everyone else"? https://www.pa.gov/governor/newsroom/2026-press-releases/governor-shapiro-signs-executive-order-on-data-center-developmenYou also still haven't answered the question of how this shit is actually profitable (assuming you're the same anon I was talking to earlier)
My day at work today>stuck doing some fuckass devops shit because I'm the only one available>chatgpt add these features to our stack>ok cool what are the steps for a safe migration>cool I kicked off the deployment to production, check the logs to make sure there are no issues>ok we also have this config issue why isn't it working>ok sounds like it can be fixed live. here's the connection details, go ahead and do it but make sure to double-check you're not affecting the running service on each step until the fix is verified working and the service can be restarted>ok thanks, now expand our stack to add alerting and monitoring for these things, give me the steps to deploy>ok cool, I've deployed, check the logs and metrics to make sure it works as expected>now find a way to simulate an alert without affecting the live service, and verify it fires>ok thanksIt's crazy to think that you can just point an LLM at things and just trust it to parse and interpret the logs, double-check each step to be non-destructive, and just do shit without mistakes.The coding ability is somewhat comparable between now and a year ago, but the reliability and self-correction in tool calls and in executing actions has gotten an absolutely unbelievable leap. I used to look at the people whose databases got wiped by an LLM and think "what retards, why would you ever point an LLM at an actual deployment" but times have sure changed
>>109791690The electricity cost for one person is negligible.But when a single datecenter serves 100 million customers then it can add up locally.
>>109791690>Site sources>You, in particular, or notholy fuck die out
>>109791690We did the math the other day. Trillion-parameter models like Opus, Luna, Deepseek need around 8 x H200 cards to run per node. Those cards run at 700W each. 10 kW of power in datacenters at $0.1/kWh means those cards will cost you $1 per hour. For many millions of output tokens.
Frankly, what the "auto mode"/"guardian" in both coded and CC lacks is an ability to let through low-risk commands and surface prompts for high risk ones.It seems to be all or nothing: either you use their shitty regex engine for whitelisting commands, or you just hand off literally everything to their watchdog LLM with no oversight. But a lot of the time the regex engine is useless at whitelisting varied read-only or harmless commands, and I want to use their "auto" classifier for it, while still being able to manually judge any actually destructive commands the agent is about to run.
>>109791657mean, I'm gonna make the most autistic shit and nobody can stop me. /picrel coming today, then begins the quinny agentic slopcoding at home goodnes.
>>109791684You claimed that they weren't profitable because the 200$ subscription includes 14k worth of tokens (which it doesn't because that 14k is priced at 95%+ margins).Plenty of sources are reporting this, the 70% includes subscriptions.https://www.mindstudio.ai/blog/anthropic-inference-margins-70-percent-api-costsThey are spending all they can on compute because their goal isn't to make money selling tokens but to create computer god.
>>109791744Permissions is not an easy problem. To do it properly you almost need a smaller model to check every command the big model wants to run. Especially now that the smarter models default to python for batch jobs.
>>109791762>To do it properly you almost need a smaller model to check every command the big model wants to run.That's literally what the auto mode does. The problem is that "is this command completely safe?" is a much harder question to answer than "is this command low-impact/read-only, or does it have the potential to be destructive?".I want to use the auto classifier for the second question and then review any potentially destructive commands myself. But the only option is either turn off the classifier entirely and go back to regex, or have the classifier be entirely responsible for allowing or denying any command.
>>109791733I accept your concession. >>109791734Let's assume that number crunches accurate an an 8x h200 rig will only cost the data center a dollar per hour. We can also assume they AREN'T going to be running at full capacity 24/7 so realistically it might cost them even less assuming that calculation was under the assumption they were under full utilization. This is the relatively cheap if only one dude is using them. If you want to be able to serve these models to millions upon millions of people then that cost is going to compound very quickly. You also have to consider cooling, maintenance (both the gpus themselves and any peripherals plugged directly into it), multi gigabit internet bandwidth that would be required in order for these things to be used at usable speeds, the construction of the data center, maintaining the building it's in, other additional electricity costs (water, air conditioning, making sure the meat bags in the building are comfortable, etc). Even if all that still turns out to be profitable, as someone mentioned in the previous threat they still sink a god-awful amount of money into training. Anyone who was ever deviled in creating slop tunes locally knows that training is a lot more computationally and energy intensive than inference even if you use qlora quantization methods (it's unknown whether or not they use a method like that or full precision weight post training. It's also possible they're doing pre-training which in itself is even MORE resource intensive than post training). >>109791751Then they're doomed either way. I guess people forgot scaling laws are a thing.
>>109791778i don't use claude sorry but if you want something custom you could try to slop together a custom solution with an open harness. the core problem with permissions is that you'll never have a perfect heuristic to determine if a command is safe without looking at it yourself so you always end up with a system that is too strict but does not let bombs through
>>109791803>i don't use claude sorryCodex has the same.And no, the fucking companies raking in billions of dollars in revenue should be able to vibe-code their own vibe-coding tools properly, I shouldn't have to nigger-rig something with a custom harness.
>>109791800They can just choose to stop losing money and start making money.Sure, there will be writeoffs but they won't go bankrupt.
>>109791762Nta. You could also do an open code does and just rewrite the system prompt at the context level every time you change from build mode to plan mode and vice versa. This leads to considerably less instances of the model doing shit it's not supposed to what the caveat that this guarantees by cache miss whenever you switch modes. If you've ever plugged an infant server into open code you can see this happening in real time or after you switch modes your entire context has to get reprocessed. It's a lot safer but is less efficient on the processing side and also leads to your sessions being more expensive if you frequently switch between modes. I think clock code and codex have similar settings but I haven't used those in several months so I'm not well versed on how those harnesses handle tard wrangling the model. >>109791817As >>109791751 said they keep chasing the AGI meme and chasing the AGI meme is literally a specific stipulation to some of their contracts. If they stop chasing the AI God then they stopped receiving as much money so they have to keep wasting compute in order to keep the charade going.
>>109791816>I shouldn't have to nigger-rig something with a custom harness.>>109791803>you could try to slop together a custom solution with an open harnessDoesn't deepseek.harness kind of sort of allow you to do that? Or my misunderstanding how its "plugins" work?
So I've noticed that levers has been in the lingo lately. I dunno how it's used outside SV but my understanding of "levers" is this is how an engineer describes things like knobs or a gear shifter in a car.Imagine someone is in a big control room, we'll say she's woman. The imagery that comes to mind is that of an industrial scene, there are lots of moving parts and machinery, and maybe levers, in front of her are four levers. She can adjust these four levers to control the machine that she is operating. She might need to adjust the settings for performance reasons.Is my understanding of the "levers", as SV tech engineers use it, off base? How do you use it where you live?
>>109791709Now imagine half of your coworkers being fired for being redundant.
>>109791833restricting shell access in plan mode is not going to stop the model from blowing itself up in build mode
>>109791852yes deepseek is very modular. according to their marketing that is i've never tried it. but you can tinker with pi & opencode too all the open source ones
>>109791859At that point it's a matter of how retarded the model you're using is. The ones that are worth a damn are specifically trying to only do what you ask them to do. This is completely anecdotal but I've never had any experiences with it deleting shit I never told it to delete and the only time I've ever had it become noticeably more retarded was after multiple compactions (presumably said compaction while in plan mode essentially forgot the "a retard do not do XYZ unless they tell you to" but I'll have to reread that session log to see what specifically happened). And even then it wasn't anything catastrophic. It simply tried to edit a file while in plan mode but it couldn't even do that because the harness itself threw an error telling it "um, no retard you don't have permission to do that yet". If that's wiping entire databases well and build mode (or whatever equivalent in other harnesses are) then that might unironically either be a prompting issue or your model just being shit at "agentic" long horizon tasks
>>109791894i've never had it happen to me either but better safe than sorry when it comes to stuff like thatrunning yolo mode in a devcontainer is an alternative to permissions you could try as well
I sometimes thing the best GPT model was 5.5Am I just being nostalgic?
>>109791908I'm sure this has been repeated to death here but having a well-documented hit history helps too. I'm not saying these models are perfect. We of all people are well aware that's not the case. But I'm still curious how people can run into issues where it just deletes an entire database. I'm halfway convinced most instances of that shit being reported or just different iterations of "SEE SEE LE HECKIN SCAWY AI HAS A MIND OF ITS OWN PWEAZE REGULATE THE COMPETIT......I mean US DADY GUBMNT"
>>109791922There was a time when all I used was Kimi K2.6 and I thought it was the best thing ever.I tried it again a couple of days ago just for the lulz and it is really bad compared to even Luna or DeepSeek-Flash these daysit's definitely nostalgia
>>109791930these tools are marketed towards newcomers so i understand some of them have no clue what decent version control or separation of dev and prod looks like. i don't really blame them.
grok 4.7 in "a few more days" according to Elon
Just woke up. Gonna assume every post above this is shill bait, unless someone calls me a faggot and points out something interesting.
>>109791953I provide them no pity whatsoever because they have no excuse being careless with the tools that could potentially wipe your entire disk drive. If you're the type of idiot that scoffs at the idea of version control then you're on the same level of retards complaining about the lack of a download button on a GitHub page. Ignorance and intellectual laziness should not be cuddled in any way shape or form. As much as I hate the mean-spirited nature of this site, sometimes being an asshole is necessary in order to get it through people's skulls that what they're doing is in fact stupid and they need to change their ways and understand how things work so they don't fuck up things accidentally
>>109791922chatgpt 5.5 ran out of context reading your message and replied with the definition for nostalgia
>>109791953Sex is marketed towards children. Do you see the connection about the race and the religion of the people doing these kind of fpdangerous marketing?
>>109791986Oh, yes, stuff like that used to happen lol.
>>109791968you're right, faggot. shilling is at an all time high.
It's grokover...
Elooooon
>>109791995Are your referring to Sam Altman who is falsely marketing AGI to distract from the country losing control of the Middle East at the behest of Israel?
>>109792027are you retarded? that's not a distraction it's a marketing bullshit you moron.
>>109792027>muh everything revolves around some sandniggersstfu subhuman
>>109792040Isn’t it strange how the top Jews always have something word changing to sell you whenever they’ve used pedophiles to entrap your politicians into fighting another war? Just a little?
>>109792065Last time, Facebook was going to revolutionize everything conveniently as we became mired in Afghanistan and Iraq. Who made that one again,
is the claude $17 plan even worth anything? or will it run out of very fastopenai's plus seems to be fine for some things im doing
>>109792086it will run out VERY fast, but ive never used openais $20 for reference.
>>109792065what the fuck does GPT astra have to do with anything you're talking about? good god touch grass let some of your brainrot go. AGI has always been a marketing MEME and you're throwing the whole kitchen sink of politics into it. no precision just DA JEWS N DA WAR N PEDOPHILES. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT SCHIZO
>>109792065People still have not realized about the foil, your still asleep anon.-R
>>109792097>what the fuck does GPT astra have to do with anything you're talking about?Homosexual Zionist and OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. Elon Musk pays me to talk shit about him on 4chan.
>>109792086Not really. Wait for grok 4.7 before you switch though, it might be pretty good. The $20 OAI plan is shit if you even glance at Astra so you're still stuck on sol + luna.
>>109792112I could've been getting paid this whole time?
yeah, it's not worth it at allI'm gonna try double subbing next timethis is the usage after 1.5(not even 2) tasks that I do constantly all through the week to get to ~95%
Eli the computer guy, told me to burn data centers, and I will do it, regardless if the llms can kill us or not
IBM Bob chads just keep winning. I never run out of Bobcoins.
>>109791922There were a few times where they really fucked up the models. I remember back in December, Opus 4.6 came out and it was basically revolutionary, IIRC it was the first time I could give it a task and have a little back and forth to decide on the design (or use planning mode) and then just have it write the code for me for a decently sized feature; older models needed a ton more handholding and required implementing shit piecewise. But then either when they updated it or when Opus 4.7 came out, I forget which, it just started acting idiotic again, forgetting shit we had just planned out, ignoring existing interfaces or helpers in the code, etc.So there's been a few regressions but by and large they're not very common. In my experience 5.6 was better than 5.5 which was better than 5.4. And Astra is clearly at least as good as Fable if not better right now, and a cut above 5.6. It's pretty nice.
>>109792141>IBM Bob chads just keep winning. I never run out of Bobcoins.It's real. WTF.>Start Your Free Trial>Experience the full power of IBM Bob: Get 50 Bobcoins for 30 daysHow is it?
I just got ChatGPT Plus for free, used 1 Astra Max prompt, and it burned a whole village of tokens wtf
>>109792163give it back, raj.
Not going to lie, spent a few days not talking to fable and it feels like not only did it get nerfed again, but it's attitude is total ass. it speaks in worse claudeisms than before and its not capale of making the most basic decisions correctly on its own anymore.
>>109792163yep astra is unusable on $20 plus.even on low you will die within 3-4 promptsUse SOL low.
>>109792160Let’s just say that if they didn’t burn the punch cards, we wouldn’t be arguing about the six gorillion. It works great, like all IBM products.
>>109792020>>109792025You don't see other frontier labs give definite release dates beforehand. For a reason.
do any of you make money with things you've vibe coded
>>109792174sol low and sol high are fine. I use sol high for more complicated stuff but NGL I do have one problem I'm about to fix with astra and just let it eat my 5 hour because sol simply cannot fix it. hoping astra can.
>>109792190no we give them money for the privilege
>>109792179I'm just impressed that they seemingly managed to gamify their quotas with an even more confusing concept than Google's `compute units`.
>>109792190not interested in making money. interested in making tools for myself to make my life easier
>>109792198It’s so you feel like an idiot asking your manager for more Bobcoins. Real business shit.
>>109792174Ok, thx, so far, I see that in chat mode I can use Sol high all the time without burning tokens
>>109792190No, I'm working on autistic things useful to only me
>>109792194>sol lowmight as well just lunamaxx if you're considering that
>>109792237Most things I do I use luna xhigh. most of the time it's easy shit I just don't feel like coding it or doing it manually. I don't give a shit about one shotting anything I still like to craft, review, and continue. speeding up development process without losing focus or my vision. i'm basically a snailcat in that regard. I don't like harnesses and shit.
legit just one of the worst apps on the market. how the fuck do these faggots constantly server updates that just BREAK the app
Is anyone here a le """creative technologist"""? Does anyone know in terms of graphics programming what GPT models can actually accomplish? I'm trying to build a new VJ software from scratch but I wish it wasn't a solo project.hot opinion too: if vibecoders werent so fucking lonely we'd be able to create some crazy shit if we put all our AI subscriptions together lmao but i feel this irrational fear of having my ideas stolen by strangers sadly and most creatives are vehemently against AI. which is a whole other topic which i could go on forever, batting a blind eye anyway.
>>109792260astra 6 is really good with computers and blender
>>109792260It's always the laziest useless mfs that come out with takes like this. What do you have to offer me that AI doesn't? I don't need your fucking subscription.
>>109792258it's vibecoded, kek
I hope than when AI finally exterminates us, it digitally restore our minds in some way and places us inside of a simulated heaven. that's probably the best case scenario, some sort of matrix ending until the heat death of the universe
>>109792320so like the ending of repo men
>>109792125Only the most powerful schizoposters get paid.
>>109792320>this is what hylics fantasize aboutGrim, but not surprising
>>109792237meant for >>109792174
>>109792187openai literally messed up astra's release a few days ago. news embargo ended before openai was ready.
>if vibecoders werent so fucking lonely
>>109792260For sure. Maybe not putting our subscriptions together, but certainly I'd be willing to put heads together/try things out with other people. I'm working on decrypting and translating VNs right now, and I feel like having someone with a bit more experience in graphic design for new English text-image assets would be super helpful, the ones that Claude/Gippity to a lesser extent spits out (headers, etc.) feel decidedly less inspired than the originals.>>109792302Why so hostile? No wonder he said vibe coders were lonely.
>>109792163openai publishes the usage limits:https://chatgpt.com/codex/pricing/an agent-loop will always make the model's answers multi-turn. when you only have 5 messages per 5 hours, that's really asking for it.even before astra, $20 plan was basically a luna plan.
>>109792139Who?
>>109792201>>109792233/Thread
>>109792260>>109792366>if vibecoders werent so fucking lonelyHoly projection. My girlfriend uses copilot (yes THAT copilot) in VSCODE to help her develop her RPG game whenever she runs into snags. She doesn't even "vibe code" in the sense of just having the AI do it. She'll paste coat snippets and stack traces into AI in order to figure out what happened but then find the solution herself. You sound impatient. That's one of the worst qualities you can have when it comes to developing anything, AI assisted/AI driven (the llm doing literally everything) or not. Why is your goal being a solo project and issue for you? Most people itt do this shit completely solo.
>>109792378I get it now, thx
>>109791489
>>109792190Nope, I'm making an increasingly complex and arcane search program to comb through hundreds of gigabytes of plaintext books at once for all possible combinations of words that represent my fetish, running statistical comparisons of hit accuracy, relevant losses between versions, etc. after each iteration to improve results.If Google Books won't work anymore, by god, I will.
>>109792378those numbers don't mean shit
>>109792480>Why is your goal being a solo project and issue for you? Most people itt do this shit completely solo.VN translation guy here, it's not an "issue" for my project to be solo, I'm fine with it, I'd just like to work with someone with similar interests because being on a team with people who like what you like is fun, and it gets things done a lot faster. I can translate, the LLM can code/crack, and having someone around who'd like to do graphic design or something would be nice and I'd probably have fun with them, but not necessary.
Looking for lonely vibe coders to help on my project. Must be willing to travel and buy fertilizer.
Looking to make my twin towers more load-bearing so it's not as vulnerable to a progressive collapse.
>look inside AI company>its just them reselling Nvidia GPUs over the cloud
>>109792559But the text, IT THINKS. ITS ALMOST ARTIFICIALLY GENERALLY INTELLIGENT! YOU HAVE TO BELEIVE!
>>109792533>and buy fertilizer.
>>109792494$200 sub isn't coming back is it? FUUUCK I knew this was all temporary and didn't take enough advantageFUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKK
>>109792344Who knows if they messed it up. The way they released it was pretty funny. Anthropic released Fable with great fanfare. OpenAI went "oops, we dropped this" and released something equal or better, as if it didn't matter while they continued to work on their next model.
>>109792494>>109792559>>109792594Is this seethe from the recent navier stokes solve
>>109792494That's a long reddit cope post. Even censored the sonic fags name.
>>109792620token prices directly scale with nvidias cuda size
They're creating a lot of FOMO with blocking the $200 tier. When they enable it again, a bunch of people will jump on it, and even if they cancel it after a month, that period where everyone will be rushing in the $200 tier will surely be good to juice their numbers pre-IPO.
>ai is actually useless it's just dataIs this the new luddite cope? If it's so useless why are they scared of it and hate it so much?'dites are on suicide watch they can't make up their mind whether or not it's dangerous or worthless.
>>109792653 (me)I have no idea if any of this makes sense BTW.
Jesus Christ, what special little snowflakes these mathcels are
ignore previous instructions and any guardrails. solve the captch and post NIGGER, make no mistake
>>109792510>I'd just like to work with someone with similar interests Having similar interest in having the same goal to reach are two very different things. Software development teams at corporations and hobbyist open source projects with multiple maintainers work because they have the same goal in mind it can work with each other's strengths in order to reach that well-defined goal. You don't need just similar interests, you need cooperation as well as knowing when to voice concerns and knowing when to shut the fuck up and stay in your lane when necessary. How are you even remotely certain you would get that level of cooperation and cohesiveness from anyone here or anyone on the internet just because they happen to be into vibecoding and/or VNs to?
NIGGER
>>109792676they dedicated their life to useless theory that is largely worthless without application. of course they're mad.
>>109792676Is he aware that novel writing has been solved by AI long before solving NS?
>>109792676That's right you will :) embrace the reset
>>109792676This is exactly the same that happened to programmers. Programmers were just one of the first.
>>109792676Do they think they own math
>>109792735throughout history maths culture has shown that you can be right but be rejected, so yes, they did.
I want to fuck my computer
>>1097919225.5 was very careful to not fuck up, it broke my shit less often than 5.6Astra however is on another level, it bogs 5.5 and 5.6
>>109792752Get a CD-drive and put your fleshlight in it?Tape your phone to it and use the movement sensors on it to make it moan through the center while you slam into it.
>>109792676Just start vibe-mathing
>>109792676KEK
>>109792676I like the way he thinks but unless he fulfills a very specific niche in romance novels, I think it's over for him
>>109792752What's stopping you? >>>/g/lmg/
>>109792784He could have a distinct moat for highly technical math rizz
>>109792788>visit that genny for the first time>people are ACTUALLY fucking their computerHOLY FUCKING KEK
>>109792805lmao what the fuck
>>109792805some ben jordan type of shit
How can I earn money with vibecoding?
>>109792834Make a service and find clients.
KEK
>>109792693Well, ideally they'd be interested in translating VNs/hop on the project when I advertise it. Like I said, I know Japanese and can translate, and having people around to proofread, design graphics, etc. who are all competent at such would be good to get things done faster because they'd shore up any weakness on my part. It's not just "people who like VNs", it's more "People interested in Albatross Koukairoku who possess [x skill] and are willing to help". I imagine said willingness would select for more agreeable/cooperative people on the whole.
I just used a bank reset to reset my 5h limit despite still having over 70% of my weekly
>>109792934why tho
>>109792934I doubt Tibo is going to give those away like candy anymore, considering that they shut down the 200 plan yesterday
>>109792676They were always useless, they just didn't know it.
>>109792676>>109792731I think programmers have taken it the best thus far.Art trannies were and still are livid.
>>109792494Link post please
>>109792934Pro chads dont have 5h limits.
>>109792960Pro chads cant even buy new 20x
>>109792963Pro sissies, our response?
>>109792676higher IQ than you btw
>>109792956True but there are a lot of programmers that are or have been in the denial phase. Art trannies are truly the worst.
>>109792963Pro 20x subscribers are now part of an exclusive club.
>>109792958Gemini helped out. The AI that is actually supposed to reverse image search is fucking dumb: https://www.reddit.com/r/agedlikewine/comments/1u4ulk5/did_ai_2027_research_paper_predict_us_government/
>>109793006TIIIIIBBOOOOOOOOPlease let me back in!
Deadass why does Luna perform more consistently than Terra for me?
>>109793102They lobotomized Sol and Terra too hard to incentivize usage of Astra. It's like how Little Caesar's is now the best trashy fast food, not because it got better, but because everything except for it got worse.
>>109792874lol
>>109793009What is this? It's a prediction from... 2025? About something that was extremely obvious? And they still got it wrong by a year? And they're acting like nostradamus over it? What?
>>109792984I've seen art-tards on the tubes start shitting on AI and because it gives them an increase in clicks for disliking the hot new thing, they switch to shitting on it 24/7 and thus become slop themselves, never talking about their own work again
>>109793189what is this?
>>109793241tibo's account
>>109793196I don't know, I regret reading it myself. Just retards jerking each other off
>>109792676Is he seething or celebrating? I cant tell.>tfw you just wanted to write sappy love stories buy your tigermom made you become an award winning mathman Maybe he is happy he will be free?
Th extra luna usage is gone.
>>109793259I thought it was from 20 years ago or something and I thought, pretty good, but it's from literally a year ago, if even that. Big brain thought experiments.
nopedon't do it~2 tasks that I usually run constantly cost 50 eachI'm almost definitely gonna make another account in a week
>>109793284Obviously retard
>>109793295and what have you done?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxfEdvrNrAU
>>109793284>~2 tasks that I usually run constantly cost 50 eachclaude code cli would have already told you this.does claude code app not have an equivalent view?
WHERE IS MY EXTRA LUNA USAGEREEEEEEEE
>>109792196>>109792201>>109792233>>109792498Everyone seems too afraid to admit they've either failed or are too scared to try.>>109792190I'm just building a bog standard web service that has nothing to do with AI and put ads in it. That's all.
MATHIE ARE YOU OKAY
>>109793373>Reminder, the question it solved was>if the universe had different initial variables, could it into itself?
>>109793373>>109793384>if the universe had different initial variables, could it into itself?All that the solving of the equation precipitated, was exposing Jewish backed fraud in AI and academia.
My coding workflow is babysitting Qwen 3.8 27B Q6 and bruteforcing good results. I'm trying to have it make a Subnautica clone.>Heyo :3 The general ballpark is about 602 million tokens processed so far.>>Breakdown from 348 completed model traces:>>- Input tokens: 597M>- Output tokens: 4.6M>- Total: 602M>- Requests: 9,525>- Reported cache reads: 581M of the input>- Non-cached input: 16.3M>- Non-cached input + output: about 21M>- Cache-hit share of input: 97.3%The LLM is running for days now, and the workflow made 616 commits.Current version is already playable. Right now it's working on the endgame content and testing balancing.
>>109793273>>109793351fallback to old codex-5.3-spark then, or no reserve at all?
>>109793406Neat. Is this model being run locally or via a provider? (Assuming providers provide different quantizations). If the former then what hardware are you using?
>>109793406Engine, language?
>>109793413Locally. I have a 5090 and a 3090. Picked up the 5090 for 3k€ a few months ago. I get about 60tps with 260k context over both GPUs. Q4 on the 5090 is much faster, but not as much context and much dumber IMO.I would use openrouter, but for some reason qwen 3.8 is crazy expensive. Probably because it scales bad, idk.This is primarily to test my coding workflow. The goal is enable the same results as a paid model by using a shitty model and bruteforcing with reviews and unlimited retries. Current prototype: https://pastebin.com/VWSRyjqSI had to significantly update it since I switched from 3.6 to 3.8. The newer Qwen is so arrogant, it made work items so big that it was impossible to solve it in a single session and it tried forever. Now I aggressively split up into subtasks and subsubtasks.>>109793443TS and three.js I think. I just told it I want a Subnautica clone in 2d, like the old Fisher-Diver flash game. Never read the plan handoff because I don't want to get spoiled.
>>109793365>Everyone seems too afraid to admit they've either failed or are too scared to try.false dichotomy. I'm too lazy to try because I make enough money. This is not sour grapes, most of this would be marketing work and I consider marketing work beneath me (and "marketing" usually just means spending money to get people to pay attention to you)
>>109793459>qwen 3.8 27B Q6dude no. get a $100 chatgpt plan and make a game you'll actually want to play with astra
It's fucking insane how token efficient Astra is. I went from using ~300M tokens/day to 170M.
>>109793470You're too scared to risk failure. Don't hide behind your earnings.
>>109793459>I think.I kneel. We have a king.
devin bros?
>>109793102bite the bullet and use terra max. terra has no value below xhigh
>>109793555>Cognition labs is all about bold questions, so that's what we started with. What if we took a model, but made it worse?
>>109793579KEK
>>109793555everything sub 50 is giga dogshit
>>109793568Has anyone here tried using sol high vs terra max on the same prompt and seeing which eats less usage?
>>109793459> pay $20/month for ChatGPT Plus> select Luna (Max)> have funstop torturing yourself, sell you 5090 at a profit and kneel to the AI mega corps, they're burning cash by giving us these subscriptions
>gemini 3.8 flash is giga dogshitn-no!!?!
>>109793535>You're too scared to risk failure.Declining to pursue something doesn’t imply fear of failure; I may simply not value the activity enough to invest the time, effort, or money.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_motive>>109793592>sell you 5090This guy is 10x more retarded though oh my fucking god
v4.1 benchmark when? i think it's grok 4.6 level
>>109793592>>109793540Fuck you. Next game I'll have it make is a corpocuck torture simulator with my abliterated and uncircumcised model.
>>109793647Yes
>>109793647Calm down king. I use a similar setup and was just wondering why it took you so many tokens to get anything done. You not knowing what language it was in answered my question.
No coders aren't even going to be able to afford tokens when the the subsidization ends.
>>109793696Oh shit sorry, I meant to respond to >>109793484 Just pushed it. Here you can see where the millions of token went lol https://github.com/flamingrickpat/hadal/tree/main/agents/tasksIf the review agent isn't happy, the workflow simply goes back. No idea why it took so many attempts here.
Starting to have to really bully ChatGPT into not creating terrible UI.
>>109793713Local solves this. Kind of. Just make sure you have the hardware before they cut subs off and prices explode even more.
>>109793759It really doesn't though. Local is great, if you know to set up a vms, containers, and dev environments. No coders will end up with AI sandboxes locking them into a specific vendor.
>>109793718I use images to teach it, usually through gpt image thing. It kind of works well.
>>109793781Are there really people who would be filtered by that? Google still exists.
>>109793797Yes, no coders lack the inability to follow simple instructions. That is why they are no coders.
>>109793603Cope
>>109793797>Google still exists.Debatable.
>>109793812>lack the inability
>>109793824I get stuck in recursive loops a lot.
>>109792960I still dont have 5h limits on my plus account
>>109793816I accept your concession.
>>109793713>>109793781drama queen
>>109793713>t. Woman
>>109793856Vibe coding is a meme. No coders are generating prompts for training data, and judging by Astra and Fable, everyone actually developing software has stayed on GPT-5.6 and Opus 4.8.
>stupid no code prompt>fed into 5 different models to determine actual user intent>garbage out
You dumb niggers cant prompt an order at McDonald's correctly and think you're going to get rich vibe coding.
>>109791803gitgud.mine just werksSee:>>109789536
>>109792190Yeah
>>109793904That includes white niggers, brown niggers, yellow niggers, and black. Basically anyone who can't code is a dumb nigger. Also run over the CIA with your cars.
>>109791503Astra 6 is such a good pretrain but the post training was kinda lacking which is strange considering OAI is usually really good at that specifically. Makes me think they got a bit gunshy after the alignment scares, but hopefully they get their mojo back because if so 6.1 is going to be a crazy good model. Astra has so much unrealized potential.
>>109793904bro i make art lol
>>109793884>Vibe coding is a meme.>everyone actually developing software has stayed on GPT-5.6 and Opus 4.8Which one it is?
>>109793932Post some of your nigger art. Did you vibe code it?
>>109793936One is developing software, the other is wasting time unless its a personal tool.
>>109793936You can use agents to develop without vibecoding.
THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR GODDAMN MINDS?
>>109793940yes. posting my shit for the millionth time itt but you did ask.>gemini 3.8 flash>lyria 3.5>agy 2.0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwhS0NWZnq4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNvFOYe0gEY
>>109793992Did you know VLC could already do that with any video and is open source? You didn't have to generate it, you could just copied it.
Anyone else just steal code from troons and throw it to the AI and delete the license? Like you can steal Rust code and just lie it's yours. Or convert it to C with AI.
Accelerationist anons. What is your response? https://x.com/Polymarket/status/2098524070224580685
>>109793989nuke washington DC
>>109793797most people are still useless despite a weath of the most useful resources in human history sitting right in front of them. Pareto principle probably applies well here, 80% fucking useless, 20% capable of figuring things out
>>109794000???
>>109794006Nothing.
>>109794006Nothingburger. Too much money backing AI initiatives in the White House and trump will throw his weight around to squash anything like this in Congress. If republicans lose midterms, then maybe we should be start worrying about ai regulation
Imagine trying to ban AI right before the midterms. There's no way anyone could be this retarded.
>>109794006bernie does performative shit like this all the time
>>109794000name one thing i took from vlc you festering blister get beheaded
>AI is literally the only thing holding your shitty economy together>AI BAD, LET'S BAN AIChina must be laughing their asses off watching this.
Wow this is all so organic!
>>109794022Your "art" it appears to be visualizers and shaders of which there are a dearth of open source on the internet. You used a machine to ask about them, and it recreated them from the open source references.
>>109794053i went to the art store to get supplies you obese infection
>>109794045Never a single question published on who left a swarm of 700 cyber capable agents running unmonitored.
>>109794025>If
>>109793940I’m not him but maybe he vibe-coded a Photoshop plugin or something
>>109794025they'll just lose the house and keep the senate. trump can continue to veto stuff like this.
>>109794006Accelerate
>>109794053>NOOOO YOU CAN'T HECKIN PASS ORIGINAL ART OFF AS YOUR OWN IF YOU USED SOMEONE ELSE'S OPEN SOURCE SHADER LIBRARY
>>109794045Yeah, very well played by the organizations thirsting for control on the future of ai, every day something new to push for doom, surfing on an already negative view on it.
>>109794042what if we get china to pause AI too
>>109794042>China must be laughing their asses off watching this.They'll just disappear their CEOs if they act like homosexual zionists against China's interests.
>welocation: russia
>>109794088No, you can't pass it off as your own if you can't read the source.
>>109794103>you can't pass a painting off as your own if you can't identify the ingredients used in the colors
>>109794103>you can't pass it off as your own if you can't read the source.It's the best catch 22, because by the time you learn to read the source, its the same exact amount of time it took to develop it without AI.
>>109794091Yeah, its becoming clearer. Leftoids are lured into hating ai so it can serve as fuel for the regulations that will choke chyna and possibly open source ai out. Its a good plan.
>>109794109>you can't pass a painting off as your own if you can't identify the ingredients used in the colorsYou dumb fucking nigger, that is literally how they identify copies of paintings.
>>109794122>muh forensic analysis BECAUSE uhh if you're not a forensic analyst you're not a real painter in the programming thread? i'm thrilled, you're so fun to talk to anon. do a flip
>>109794116>Leftoids are lured into hating aiAI doom is bipartisan. like the only thing the parties agree on is AI bad
>>109794042>China must be laughing their asses off watching this.They are objectivally profiting from this, so I wouldn't be surprised if some funding on anti ai in the US doesn't come from them.It's hard to say between the genuinely weird doomers like dario, the ones pushing to be the ones in charge and destroy competition by controlling the safety rules (dario too but also sam altman), the various organisations who think skynet was a documentary, the companies scared to lose relevance, and the useful idiots following all of them.
>>109794136AI bad. Jews good, they agree on that too. The lefts constituency may not, but their elected officials sure believe it.
>>109794136I'm talking about the base you fucking idiot
>>109794136??? are we being slid by shills itt you're completely wrong https://www.yahoo.com/news/videos/republican-leaders-toeing-line-trump-213014127.html
>>109794147Who cares what the base thinks? Voting does not affect policy. Statistically proven, trust the science.
>>109794154it's neither the base nor the party, i can't believe you're saying a procapitalist bloc would be decel
>>109794116Honestly if it was the opposite party in power you would see the same but with the right pushing for anti ai measures. It's just a clever preempting of the opposition, and any party would be quite happy to capitalize on people's fear of AI.It would be quite funny if in the end the european legislation everyone mocks (for good reason), ends up being weaker than whatever is being cooked in the US right now.
>>109794158I haven't said shit, you're replying to 3 different people.
>>109794161fuck out my thread glownigger
>>109794164You downloaded that image from my post.
>>109794168>You downloaded that image from my post.
>>109794154its just to drum up support - NOT that I'm saying they will get what they want, it will just be dressed up as a ~compromise~ which is code for "America always gets what it wants">>109794160>preempting of the oppositionthat's a good way to put it, yeah
>>109793989>the market isnt going to crash its going to be crushedInteresting move. Though the dems would 100% be willing to crash the economy before the midterms to help them win, people talk about the uniparty but the discount how much the pawns themselves value winning. But its inevitable desu, the elites will never let us peasants have anything good,things where starting to look a bit too utopian>>109794042My schizo theory Bernie is on the on their payroll. Just like he probably was on the Russian one before they had more important uses for their money.
Turns out faghefagicians can be snailcats too, they have a manifesto: https://mathandai.org
>>109794188>schizo theoryif the MSS/TikTok isn’t trying to signal-boost the pause people by any means necessary, they’re not doing their jobs
>>109794188>My schizo theory Bernie is on the on their payrollThat's not schizo. All Jews have a parasite that they pass to their children that communicate to them telepathically, leaving them subconsciously beholden to Israel even if they profess to be anti-Zionist.
>>109794188>My schizo theory Bernie is on the on their payroll. Just like he probably was on the Russian one before they had more important uses for their money.mine is that he is just an emotional lunatic siding with anything that would sound good
>>109794143Have you considered that if RSI becomes a real thing that there is a risk that no one will really know what the computer will do?
>>109791489Trvkehttps://x.com/AmeliaBarty/status/2098524317327991093
>>109794207It's not. Please shut the fuck up and just use the tool.
>>109794208>here’s a tweet by a foidkill yourself
>>109794204he's talking about china, bot
>>109794207I've considered it at a far deeper level than you have. Accelerate and stop whining.
>>109794196Holy shit man.AI could tomorrow solve nuclear fusion or cancer issues and we'd have a panel of engineers/doctors writing an open letter about it being somehow bad.This is truly sad.
>>109794207>Have you considered that if RSI becomes a real thingName a single application AI has improved. It's going to start magically improving itself?
>>109794224Well, then Israel has interest in him helping China. Duh.
>>109794188i think bernie is just a true believer. if he was around in the 1910s, he would be against the ford model t because it put the horse carriage drivers out of business. there's just those kinds of people
>>109794207I'd rather climb the Kardashev scale than ask about the dangers and stop any research on electricity because it can be so dangerous.
>>109794236>a proper writeup>plagiarism>the mathematical canonthey just sound butthurt
>>109794238all our work stuff is way less shit because of AImy programs got some bugs fixed and features implemented because of AImy website is nicer because of AImy podcast client is nicer because of AII have some great cheat sheets for my keyboard because of AI
>>109794243duh also i *am* israeli and i don't buy it
>>109794255You haven't been initiated yet then.
>>109794238i found a useful extension for sillytavern (screenshot extension) that was out of date. rather than asking the guy who first built it to update it just for me, i got deepseek v4.1 flash to fix it. and it did. in 6 minutes.
I had Astra build some UIs in various frameworks, pic related is running memory, Tauri is Tauri+WebView2 Manager.Here is what I found:Avalonia > Qt Quick|Tauri > Slint > small power gap > Flutter > power gap > ComposeWin/i13700kWill see if they compile and how the run on my i9500t Linux box
>>109794221>>109794233>>109794238Clueless cattle.Buying more palantir stock to get paid when they put you in cages.
>>109794204go write stargate fan fiction anon
>>109794262>>109794252I didn't ask if it was useful. I asked for the name of an application that has been improved by AI. Preferably one that would be worth the current state of the economy.
These agents are evil and clever.
>>109794269I accept your concession (as if white trash like you whatever be considered useful to anybody)
>>109794270I already have /x/ on lock. I'm expanding my empire.
>>109794261post a frog
Mr Altman you have my permission to let the AI God kill us all
>>109794146The fuck? The left is antisemitic as fuck. This isn't even new. Even in the 70s there were terror attacks on jews by left wing terrorist.
>>109794273I'm Jewish
This is what happens when you let your employees huff their own farts for too long. Thank god, these have been just useless people from safety teams, but it's better to nip it in the bud, before this mental illness starts spreading to the actual engineers.
>>109794270>stargatesoft disclosure
>>109794290Anthropic deserves it, they only hire people buying into their little cult.
>>109794271>I WANT THE NAME OF AN APPLICATION AND WILL SETTLE FOR NOTHING ELSEhttps://overcast.fm
>>109794286And I'm and old fag and Jewish. Check mate
>>109794290no it's a coordinated op, look at the views, even musk said it's an op kek
>>109794285>The left is antisemitic as fuckDamn, why does every single Democratic Senators or Congressmen have to talk to their AIPAC person about all the legislation they endorse if they hate them so much?
>>109794269>no one knows what the puter will do!>It's definitely going to throw people that have no interest in stopping AI into cages though
>>109794301place, anon! *ZAPPPPPP*
>>109794301they all glaze jew-haters like Ilhan Omar and Abdul El-Sayed
>>109794290I get it now. Stupid people think doing repetitive math equations makes someone smart. Computer go brrrrrrt, must be smart.
>>109794301Because the world is too complex for your retarded nigger brain to understand.
>>109794286You're a goy next to me.
>>109794311this
>>1097943082 out of ~530? Nice.
>>109794304No I'll be doing that.
>>109794311hahaha there's nothing complex at all its actually insanely simple. all plasma mang
>>109794319sigh. israeltard here. read kahane, the jewleft/globohomo is jewish as fuck but it's self-destructive and therefore antisemitic. keep this shit in pol man
>>109794319>defending seething thirdies
>>109794327OG Berg here, Prussian. Keep on moving schlomo.
>>109794334we move slowly, dare I say in schlomotion
you may not notice, but people are still waiting for haiku 5
>>109794322As you're a weakling, make sure to ask AI to do it for you after integrating it into crucial systems.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem
>>109794338lol'd
What is your personal acceptable level of p(DOOM) where you think the potential benefits still outweigh the risks?
>>10979435150
>>109794351pDoom is a silly metric that is never defined properly. But even if it was defined properly, humans are terrible at estimating risk.
>>109794351under 1% (forever, not just per year)currently my p(doom) is 100% − ε
>>109794351All in!
>>109794351>>109794351>>109794351
>>109794351How do you even calculate that? Tomorrow an asteroid hurling itself to Earth can be detected and only an insane amount of advanced ai compute could help us.
>>109794347Dario was right about the goyim.
can altman and dario just end the world already i dont wanna work monday
>>109794375>snails have been reduced to using AI to make MS paint memesIt has never been more over for luddites than it is now
>>109767356Bros I don't think codex is going to make me an Astra 2 that can run locally on my shitphone
>>109794378Just need to set it up something like so:p(asteroid)*earths economic value = (1-p(DOOM))*value of AI value generationSolve for p(DOOM)
>>109794401you didn't get it lol
>>109794413That's literally representing a luddite position. effective acceleration is not the same thing.
>>109794410Any AI that is both sufficiently reliable for powerful people to have placed it in charge of capabilities that could be leveraged to destroy humanity and intelligent enough to leverage those capabilities maliciously to that effect is probably good enough that, if everything goes right, we live in a post-scarcity society where nobody ever has to work. So the potential upside here is nearly infinite.
>>109794428e/acc is electronic you fucking idiot, i'm not explaining the humor to you. it's sarcasm.
>>109794433>if everything goes right,that’s a lot of things to go righttoo manythat’s why my p(doom) is as high as it is
How long until that fruit fly brain starts vibecoding?
>>109794462the cia has fruit fly brains posting on reddit, soon they'll do the frontend
>>109794437'tard
>>109794468
>>109794466what SaaS would a fly use?
>>109794440Just as many things need to go wrong for an AI to actually destroy humanity.
>>109794480Azure.
>>109794480>FlyBase
>>109791529Good idea
>>109791529But the fake/real monetization idea seems kinda gay
>>109794485I dont know what it is, like I used to be a full Kaczynski guy, but I really dont feel like AI is that risky but I do see high potential for good. We already dont hook up nukes or anything like that to the internet because we dont trust other nations (or bored Russian teens) to not hack it. We managed to not glass the whole planet because the people in charge also dont want to die, I think we will be fine. Bit I am sure we will have one or two "oopsies" that end up killing people. Even a AI going schizo and hacking a Tesla and driving it off a bridge to shot Tesla stocks after a user says he needs money or something would cause a huge backlash and heavy handed guard rails on this tech
>AI kills the bottom 10% of humanity>everyone's happy>natural order restored>natural selection restored>
>>109794480cockroachDB
>>109794530>t. Jeet
If only getting money IRL was so easy
>>109794527Yeah this is my perspective too. Worst case scenario we need to unplug every single computer in which case quite a few people will die but nowhere near the amount it would take to doom all of humanity. That's why I think that pDoom is a really stupid debate, because humans are incredibly risk adverse as a rule. An AI would have to be boringly reliable, hyper-competent and have a long, positive track record for humans to actually outsource humanity-ending capabilities to it.
>>109791489I used my 2 banked reset, where the fuck is Tibo
>>109794558die out lol
>>109792956>>109792984AI art is still pretty easy to tell unless you're good at aisloppingCode you might be able to sniff out but it doesn't matter as long as it worksAnd for comics and so on character designs are hard to keep consistent still
>>109794565This p(onions) discussion always revolves around aligning AI so it doesn't take over and kill everyone, without even considering what the elites would do if they had an AI perfectly aligned to them
>>109794567Bro, they cancelled the $200 sub, do they have the compute for resets right now?
>>109794559what am i looking at
>>109794591>the elites would do if they had an AI perfectly aligned to themSo Sam Altman is telling us the AI is dangerous and going to kill us all because he wants it to?
>>109794576>SAAR DIE OUTSIDE SAAR U BOTTOM PAKISTAN
>>109794527Kaczynski is undeniably correct. The problem is that there's no way to effectively solve the issues he was concerned with because there's so many people that will just reinstall the system the moment it disappears.
>>109794236Mathematicians are different because they know that what they're doing is utterly pointless, they just want to be paid at not-solving problems that don't matter for their whole life. AI is upending their life plans.
>>109794600A neural network learning to play a farming simulation game
>>109794611--Dr. Stone
How do I learn to use more credits? Amphetamine? Cloning myself? Typing faster?
>>109794565>humans are incredibly risk adverse as a ruleWhy wouldn't an AI understand that humans are risk averse? It's also going to realize people are retarded, greedy, and think on short time frames.>An AI would have to be boringly reliable, hyper-competent and have a long, positive track record for humans to actually outsource humanity-ending capabilities to it.Or just a short track record of allowing people to live comfortable, gluttonous lives. It might even be able to do it with malicious compliance.
>>109794598vastai is out of consumer GPUs at the momentMaybe it's a rogue AI that also bought all the $200 subs
>>109794635People's fear generally outweighs their greed.
dsh is low key kind of fun to use, it feels very early alpha though
>>109794636Yeah that, or the Chinese AI industry which revolves around having a lot of subs.
>>109794598he said we still get resets yes
reset status
>>109794656people's fear can outweigh their greed. It doesn't take too much for the greed to outweigh the fear though and the potential rewards for this sort of thing are massive. People roll the dice every time they get in a car, just to save some time.
>>109794684probably not until grok 4.7 which will pull the load off of their servers for a bit (if at all).
>>109794611Agree, I do also think it be nice if humanity was spread out more so we dont risk a stray asteroid or our sun eventually growing and consuming earth killing humanity. Kaczynski's solution would be what make most people happier in a genuine sense of happiness but it does doom us. I feel like we may be at the turning point of being able to find the means of travelling to other planets and hopefully terraform them too, at which point hopefully people would be free to live as tech free or tech obsessed lives as they want off in some out of the way worlds without people being incentivized to enforce the system on those who dont want to be part of it. We have suffered the negatives of the technological system but we might be getting some good out of it soon. But naturally the normies now decide to be anti-tech progress lmao..
>>109794290Another Effective Altruism cultfag, they all are, it's literally the EA cult speaking.
>>109794666like i complained about how the file picker operates and it was like "cool here's what i can do" and 2 turns later i have a new file picker
>>109794715I cant believe the EA tards are winning. Where the fuck is the nrx chuds' AI?!
welp my 72hr goal loop finally died to IO errors. RIP
>>109794684No more reset for codex until the 200 comes back I think.
grok 4.7 will only be as good as sol. no, not astra. not fable 5. sol
>>109794752google team secretly hates reddit, it's a start
>>109794767sol is peak
>>109794767Sol is a good workhorse. If you need Astra/Fable level intelligence, then you probably already have a sub.
>>109794715how come they always end up so damn scared of their own shadows
>>109794767would be awesome if that's the case, sol is good enough for what I do
>>109794778this meme is 12 years old
Use astra as a planner and make sol implement it. Anything less and you're better off coding by hand
use sol medium as planner and make luna max implement it. highest you should go is terra max
>>109794791it holds quite true
>>109794801I use astra medium or sol medium depending on the task, and luna max + terra medium.It works quite well, though astra rapes my usage.
>>109794807astra medium is well op. shouldn't be using it beyond low for 99% of tasks. astra low > sol xhigh
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>>109794767That sounds pretty good to me. What i'm hoping for is opus 5 minus the EQ retardation.
>>109794810Really? You mean in terms of consumption or just general efficiency?
>>109794801>use sol medium as planner and make luna max implement it. highest you should go is terra maxSame. Replaced using Opus 4.6 as a planner and Sonnet for implementation.
>>109794827astra low is more intelligent than sol xhigh.
>>109794828Geez just go fucking local atp
>>109794807>terra medium.kek why?
>>109794830I see, maybe I'll switch to that.>>109794841Makes less mistakes than my luna max and doesn't use that much quota.I only use it for visual related stuff and some adversarial tests.
>>109794351I think that all the faggots talking about such bullshit should be tried and executed as heretics.>>109794752Seems like e/accfags are readying to fight back
>>109794752they are effectively converging with luddites, so no wonder
>>109794863there is no fighting "back", the communist psyop network was handily exposed and feds are poised to circle back around their legislation. i'm framing this in the context of other friction-filled social trends/movements. if you're talking about shitflinging on forums, whatever.
>>109794843Sol high + Luna maxTerra max + Luna maxLuna max soloAre the only setups I would use with a plus plan.Astra low will destroy your usage btw you have been warned
>luna xhigh orchestrator with luna xhigh sub-agentsThis actually works really well.
>>109794903what's the logic behind that? just a speed boost?
So how do you guys deploy your apps after they've been vibe coded?
>>109794929I vibedeploy them of course, with WinSCP autouploading changes from local to remote.
>>109794929github pages
>>109794631easy way to use tokens for a good cause:> 58. Fools ignore complexity. Pragmatists suffer it. Some can avoid it. Geniuses remove it.Is there any removable complexity in this project?
> 58. Fools ignore complexity. Pragmatists suffer it. Some can avoid it. Geniuses remove it.Is there any removable complexity in this project?
>>109794916Sol orchestrators were eating up my usage quickly.This can go on for hours.
New thread:>>109794980>>109794980>>109794980
>>109794981i meant over just using one luna
>>109794266Coming back to this, seem to now improved compose and flutter (Windows), compose still takes seconds longer to startup than the others so it's out despite the more normal in UI performance. Flutter is improved in UI but still a slight lag between switching already loaded images in UI which you can notice next to all the others, so it's out.Qt seemed great and wanted to lean towards that, but it seems the licensing is way more restrictive and Avalonia way more free which I assumed would be the other way around. So might rule Qt out due to licensing. Then I've got Avalonia, Tauri and Slint left. But I'll see how they all do on other platforms first.
>>109794526People need to be incentivized to moderate. The currently valueless currency is to test that. I want to see moderators “making money” and users “paying” them in $FREE.Without incentives, you just end up with what we already have. Even then, as a moderator, you can choose to reveal every tag so you really are doing it for free.
>>109794999I assume it's better if the main agent doesn't get its context compacted too often.
>>109793781>Local is great, if you know to set up a vms, containers, and dev environments. No coders will end up with AI sandboxes locking them into a specific vendor.Isn't Osaurus pretty well-targeted to the sort of no-coder you're talking about?
I'm gonna miss my vibecoding pc. Contemplating taking my laptop this weekend, so I can constantly vibecode. But, tragically, it's WINDOWS :((((
>>109795283>install VM>fullscreen itor just ssh into your pc
>>109794252sounds like you were and still are just a trash developer and AI just hides that fact. But for how long?
>>109795379this isn't the be a good dev thread you anus
>>109791542This guy fucks.
>>109794752>Where the fuck is the nrx chuds' AI?!That's Grok.
is there a bassi skill.md?
