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A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, AI IDEs, browser builders, and shipping code with LLMs.

You use Git — right, anon?

## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do it
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/

## News (both past and future)
- 2026-09-14 America/Los_Angeles — Claude’s 2× promotion scheduled to end; usage drops to +25% from the +50% that we’ve become used to (a 17% reduction)
- 2026-09-10 — OpenAI pauses new sign-ups for their $200 subscription
- 2026-09-04 — OpenAI releases Astra • Anthropic does a reset
- 2026-09-01 — Claude Fable 5.1 released: https://www.anthropic.com/claude-fable-and-mythos-5-1
- 2026-07-24 — Claude Opus 5 out

## Related generals
>>>/g/lmg/

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## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or so
https://developers.openai.com/codex/cli — probably generally better currently
https://claude.com/product/claude-code

## Near-frontier models for code
https://x.ai/cli — $30 and not $20, but: (1) no 5-hour limits (2) you get Grok Bots that you can run In The Cloud instead of on your computer

## Not worth it for code, but maybe good for interpreting images/video
https://antigravity.google/product/antigravity-cli

----

## Prompting
https://simonwillison.net/guides/agentic-engineering-patterns/using-git-with-coding-agents/
https://arps18.github.io/posts/claude-code-mastery/

## Skills
https://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grilling is a favorite
https://github.com/DietrichGebert/ponytail
https://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first — do less redundant bookkeeping

## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agents
https://osaurus.ai/
https://pi.dev/
https://opencode.ai/

## Is our AIs unlearning?
https://aistupidlevel.info/

## Will there be a codex reset?
https://codex-resets.com/

## What we’ve done
https://vcg.gitgud.site

## Previous thread
>>109797078
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>>109801758
>Russia totally has a secret frontier model bro
Russia has a GDP equal to that of Italy or Brazil, wtf do you think?
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EU snailcat sanctuary, safer than everyone
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IBM Bob chads rise up, stay winning.
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>>109801820
I think I respect Indians more than Eurofags.
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texas has a bigger gdp than russia
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>>109801824
I went with the default name
so I have Bob at home
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>>109801835
>bob is black
dont trust bob
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>>109801842
It's King Bob-omb stripped of all his masculinity. This is what Mario did to him.
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>>109801842
dammit you agree with me
when I saw you kickin’ dirt in my eye
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>>109801833
unquestionably
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front page of every major paper. impressive psy-op, very nice
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>>109801833
unequivocally
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>>109801833
>>109801864
brown hands typed this
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>>109801880
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>>109801853
>buy x premium+
>this shit isnt even included
the fuck elon?
>>
>>109801876
In less that a week:
some rando quits anthropic because it's so unsafe > few minutes before articles about him quitting already out > every social media/youtube and politicians explodes with "we should stop ai" > immediate agreement between dario/altman/musk to "slow down ai research" (whatever that means) > news pieces about it
all of that just before the us midterms

kind of impressive indeed
>>
>>109801904
LMFUCKINGAO my google sub gives me everything, i don't even know what to do with it all
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>>109801907
the impressive part is that cattle fall for it
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tibo just agreed to slow down resets to avoid rsi
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why are cursor and grokbot two different things ?
>>
>>109801927
people were mentally ready after a year+ of fearmongering, so no surprise something so transparent works
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>>109801876
It's so over, thinking of refunding my subscription to cluade and codex right now
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gemini is so fucking trash it can even compare to the chinese models holy fuck
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>>109801924
Actually nvm, I have. Just elons site is buggy af not showing me the new terms i had to accept first
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>>109801927
People love to hate things, AI is just the designate boogeyman for this election cycle
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got astra to write a driver for an Xbox controller on MacOS in 5 minutes
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>>109802009
I'm voting for whoever wants to turn greenland into a datacenter.
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>>109802026
australia on renewables and nuclear would be kino anon
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>>109802025
did it download the one that already exists and rename it?
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got astra to write a driver for a MacOS on an Xbox controller in 5 minutes
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>>109802026
i'm voting for this anon
imagine the cooling
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>>109802025
what if the controller started to self improve?
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got MacOS to write a driver for an Xbox controller on astra in 5 minutes
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I got astra running MacOS on an Xbox controller in 5 minutes.
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>>109802035
none exists it’s a shitty offbrand
>>109802045
fuck I didn’t even consider alignment
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>>109802025
>>109802045
10% chance that the Xbox controller kills anon by 2029
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got Xbox controller to kill an anon by 2029
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xbox controller gooning to youtube and tiktok
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Astra took over my Mac and started gestating Luna's distilled babies within
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Anon's xbox controller just flew over my house. When is congress going to do something about this!?
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got opus to leave the part that matters implicit in 4 hours
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got Anon to write an Xbox controller porn on MacOS in 5 minutes
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I got my mouse and keyboard working on a PC with drivers astra wrote.
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>>109801853
>not naming it vivian
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got muse spark to convert me to talmudic judaism
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added a microphone to my xbox controller and turned it into a vibecoding device
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I was vibecoding with astra on ketamine and now I'm in communication with the entity behind the veil. He want's to you to know that its the Jews.
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we need to evolve beyond our organic bodies. we need modularity.

how cool would it be if I could remove my legs arms and add wheels and drive to the store. obviously I would attach some arms to my back to carry everything.
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I'm making the harness modular and interwined with the physical world. It will have an Xbox controller and a fleshlight at the very least.
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you wouldn't use a model that would make arima kana laugh at you, would you?
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>>109801876
>>109801907
This makes me want to buy more AI stock. If something is powerful enough to wipe out humanity I want to be funding it.
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>>109802213
I would use whatever model lets me shoot her square in the face, you tranny.
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>>109801876
lmao they do this every couple months and then nothing happens
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>>109802242
>new article about danger
>OpenAI letting a swarm of 700+ agents go unmonitored
>more news about danger
>Anthropic says Fable could kill us all
>OpenAI lets another swarm go unmonitored
Where have I seen to jews on stage doing this song and dance before?
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kek cursor and grokbot onboarding experience are so shit, I don't even want to know what their backend looks like. probably an agent swarm trying to figure out which account belongs to which platform on the fly (no pun intended).
literally 0 indicator in c*rsor if your x sub is linked or not
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>>109801876
>>109802242
I swear they copy paste this shit at this point. Am I going crazy??
This was barely six weeks ago. Also Dario. Also "slowing down AI development"
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>>109802311
>oy vey, hamas is dangerous
>arms and funds hamas
>terrorist attack
>oy vey, look what they did!
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working on changing how bloom works in UE5
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>You better pass laws that enshrine OpenAI and Anthropic as a "safe" duopoly or we'll kill you with Astra and Fable!
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>>109802334
>You better take the Phizer or J&J MRNA gene therapy or your going to be in for a WINTER OF DEATH
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>>109802321
>Jasjeet Sekhon
lel
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>>109802322
those idiot fools how could they kill sandniggers
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>>109802374
Jews are sandniggers
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I really don't appreciate the antisemitism here. It's a bit rude and uncalled for.
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>>109802383
>yfw you say this
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>>109802392
Homosexual Zionist Sam Altman was given his position at Ycombinator specifically so he could jump on and control whatever AI company came out on top for Israel's benefit.
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>>109802403
Israel is pretty cool, though. They gave us the Desert Eagle.
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>>109802414
Germany is cooler, too bad it gave us Israel.
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>>109802414
No, they didn't. That was a Florida man.
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>switched from claude -> gpt in june because opus performance was atrocious and GPT had better usage limits
>everything good for a few months
>gpt limits now atrocious too
>see hype about the new grok
>think of switching, look at grok subreddit
>everyone there hates their lives, says current grok is like GPT 5.2

need a chinese lab to beat astra for pennies on the dollar
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>>109802403
>self-destructive two-state zionists are real zionists!!!
>>109802414
>the desert eagle is the best israeli sidearm NOT the jericho!!!
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>>109802213
post more fable > astra pic
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>>109802425
Nah, don't think so.

>>109802431
Really? Florida man lives in Israel?
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Master XI WON
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>>109802451
Net and Yahoo won, actually.

>>109802437
DE is cooler. Sorry!
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>>109802449
>Magnum Research Inc designed and developed the Desert Eagle.
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>>109802449
>literally cuts off screenshot right above where it says who designed and manufactured the initial run
weak bait
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>>109802466
So, did more research. He was a Minnesota man not Floridian.

>>109802468
He didn't even finalize the design.
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>>109802504
Kill yourself faggot, I'm not pasting shit from wikipedia or taking screenshots to prove you wrong. Even if I wasn't right, I'd change wikipedia to make it say I was.
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kikes now post in vibe coding threads to astro turf their failed state?
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>>109802534
>kikes now post in vibe coding threads to astro turf their failed state?
The entire thread was made shill two different kike platforms
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>>109802544
these threads do glow
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NIGGERS TONGUE MUHH ANUS
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>>109802528
You sound upset. Maybe a trip to Disney World will cheer you up!

>>109802534
If by failing you mean succeeding beyond all belief! Israel owns your country and you seethe about it all day while also crying that they're a failed state. INTERESTING! Maybe just get back on the vibe coding grind!
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>>109802559
Its shills arguing about Claude and Codex, when you can get all the models at the same token price, without their shitty subscription and usage resets, from different providers
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>>109802584
No resets?!?!?
Sounds like HELL. Imagine actually turning down FREE vibes.
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>>109802584
I don't know what you are implying but Tibo is my friend.
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>>109802599
>>109802603
You're poor. When I run out of Bobcoins, I buy more.
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>>109802610
You're not taking my shekels away from me with your bobshekel LIES.
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Seriously though, if you're white, just use VSCode with Copilot.
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>>109802634
Real white patriots use codex
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>>109802634
this is the option for boomers
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>>109802563
the "texas gdp > russia" fucking killed me
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>>109802648
Why do you hate people with money?
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>>109802648
We certainly know you're a zoomer since you don't know what words mean.
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fable guardrails seem to have been relaxed a decent bit. haven't been keeping up with the thread, so i'm not sure if everyone else has noticed this. but it's actually usable now, even for security-adjacent stuff
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You can add Deepseek to VSCode with copilot so that you leak source to both the NSA and the PLA. Winning.
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>>109801853
My grokbot is kinda fun. And premium+ does include it I don't know what that one dude was talking about (although it is much lower token allotment). I use it as a personal trainer and also made some subagents to find and rip music from old trance mix youtube videos that they jewishly deleted for no reason. It is very effective. Seeing it sperg out about me telling it about an old back injury was kinda hilarious.
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>>109802311
Zuckerberg has been pretty quite so far, right? What is he cooking?
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>>109802634
vscode is a code editor but we don't read any code anymore
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>>109802696
https://www.meta.com/thefutureisforeveryone/
>[...]
>As discussed above, in order for personal superintelligence agents to be adopted and trusted by billions of people, by definition we will need to have solved alignment with people's interests and enabled checks and balances at scale. At the same time, any AI engaging in recursive self-improvement is by definition directing and advancing its own goals. All labs should observe its objectives and our ability to control them carefully, and if there is any indication of harmful behavior then we should coordinate and adjust appropriately. But letting an AI system or anyone else direct its own goals is not inherently harmful by itself, even if its goals are not fully aligned with many people, as long as we maintain a balance of power that favors people overall. The main premise of the balance of power theory is that competing interests are natural, and the only way to ensure adherence to human values is by giving people more power.
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>>109802610
you don't have any Bobcoins kid
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>>109802648
It's the option for people that want to develop a potential breakthrough without handing everything over to scam altman to steal (and then lie about stealing)
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>>109802770
Look, my uncle works IBM. You don't know shit.
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>>109801934
half-digested purchased company
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>>109802779
>openai, a company build upon stealing all the copyrighted works of the world, will respect microsoft's data retention policy
>that's why i use a second-tier harness like copilot instead of codex
doubt
>p.s. i'm gladly paying a magnitude more for copilot instead of using a codex subscription
okay, boomer
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>>109802749
I wonder how many people have been scammed by his open source models. Probably more than the amount it's helped anyone.
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>>109802858
>will respect microsoft's data retention policy
They have to. US military contractors use VSCode.
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>>109802858
actually I hear that ChatGPT via Copilot is the GDPR-compliant way to get OpenAI working on your code
which is important if you’re a big Euro company
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>>109802879
Microsoft practically is the NSA at this point. Contractors
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>>109802784
my dad owns blizzard
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One fucking day 74% left on my weekly plan, completely unusable for webshit on the 20$ plan. Back to Claude code or does someone have a recommended model/reasoning level to choose because I'm on astra light. A few implementation turns, mostly this was mostly back and forth planning turns
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>>109802895
I didn't even think about that. The largest NSA contractor is also now running Call of Duty and World of Warcraft.
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>>109802879
the public has no access to the military's FedRAMP. in return, FedRAMP only has ancient models.
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/azuregov/azure-openai-fedramp-high-for-government/
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>>109802904
>clod's chode
i wouldn't
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>>109802922
Dump it!
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>>109802922
its over
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>>109802770
bobcoin sui stack?
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>>109802904
astra light is not suitable for the $20 plan -- anthropic's $20 doesn't even give you access to fable.
$20 plan is for luna maxxing.
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>>109802922
who
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>>109802563
>Gemini | Trash
>Gemini_generated_Image
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>>109802943
I do 1–3 Sol High things per 5h block on the $20 plan, but this is the kind of thing you’d do for random fix-ups on a small website, not actual agentic development
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>>109802858
I'll be honest I thought copilot could be used offline. Pi/opencode then, whatever same principle.
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>>109802922
Fake news. That dude and his brother died a while ago.
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>>109802883
false.
german universities are on openai's education plan. students have to sign https://openai.com/policies/services-agreement/
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>>109802959
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The 20 dollar subscriptions are useless ...
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I use astra ultra for 15 minutes on my $20 and then suddenly I have to wait 5 hours before I can continue. The task is ruined because it stops in the middle. I don't even know if it can salvage it when the 5 hour limit has been reset.
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>>109802982
They are great for charging people who can't read what the models are doing to help train their models and condition them to a pavlovian response.
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>>109802965
vscode has its own harness, too. but it's not copilot.
https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/agents/run/agent-harnesses
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Why is it whenever I ask one AI to write a prompt to another one (or when switching contexts) they never add a "please" or "thank you", they are very direct and to the point. Is this a test, are they seeing if I would add the niceties or not?
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>>109803000
it's based on verbosity reduction in training
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>>109802972
kek
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>>109803001
makes no sense.
google paced its pacing a long time ago already. gemini pro was last seen at 3.1.
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>>109802998
Weird, local is local copilot and runs on the github copilot chat extension. So they're renaming it now
>>
Does copilot work the way Claude code and codex work?
Didn't think it did, they upgraded copilot?
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>>109803053
microsoft named a lot of things copilot, but yeah copilot-cli does exist:
https://github.com/features/copilot/cli
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>>109803023
ultra gigatraining on virgo and tpu-8t behind the scenes
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>>109803059
Is it the same one all the universities in europe are pointing their staff and students to?
>You must always use copilot
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>>109803059
>microsoft named a lot of things copilot

I genuinely do not know why they did this. It made it extremely difficult to figure out what I was getting with all their subscriptions because they were all some version of copilot that did completely different things.
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>>109803082
>all their subscriptions because they were all some version of copilot that did completely different things.
You got confused between Microsoft Office 365 with Copilot and Github Copilot? Those are the only two with subscriptions. If you are trying to code, it's pretty obvious which one you need.
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>>109801791
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>>109803126
>the most expensive "youre welcome." in human history
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>Yes China, we promise to slow down.
>Yes American, we promise to slow down.
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>>109803069
github copilot student gives you hardly any credits. you can maybe call luna 20x per month.
what are you going to do with that?
https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/197557
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>>109803162
Imagine that, they want the students to read the code.
>>
The gap between tech literate millenials and zoomers is just going to keep growing.
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I'm doing an online MBA in the US alongside my job, therefore I'm a student and can just get myself a chatgpt student sub?
I have that edu email.
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>>109803166
nope, before the rugpull on June, github copilot sub was the most generous with like $500 equivalent in api calls. now it's ~$20.
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>>109803171
Millennials are soulless faggots that destroy anything they touch, albiet.
- Zillenial
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>>109803179
google student is superior
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>>109803180
I was in San Francisco and didn't think everyone there was a coder.
I mean many people did seem rich and feminine, but not exactly tech nerds.
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>>109803180
heh
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>>109803180
Funny, but I didn’t laugh because it’s a xitter screenshot on 4chan. Next time just post it as text and claim it’s your joke.
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>>109803194
only in the US.
for the rest of the world, antigravity usage is not included in the plan.
https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/products/gemini-app/student-offer-google-ai/
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>>109803205
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>>109803194
Chatgpt student is free, is google student also free?
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>>109803205
Doesn't make sense because google is an indian company based in the UK right?
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>>109803224
1yr pro on the house
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>>109803191
they’re good at food
https://www.chefsteps.com
also J. Kenji López-Alt and the rest of the Serious Eats people
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>>109803126
Astra is so authoritative, like talking to an ant, luna would say You're welcome!!! :smiley-face:
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>>109803256
yeah luna is the same ant, just mask on

i am accel as fuck but don't want oai rsi
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>>109803162
You get infinite code completions though, it's nice to press tab after starting an obvious line
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>>109803238
>J. Kenji López-Alt
>Born 1979
>Millenial
No, sorry he's not. Also I don't care. Pretentious food from faggots does not interest me.
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>>109803228
go to a local google developer group in europe, it's mostly indians there. so indians get their free google ai plans from gdg.
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>>109803235
I don't know if I should activate all these free offers at the same time or not.
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>>109803171
lol read hg wells' time machine, it could be species divergence because the gaps between luddite and aichad are heritable
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>>109803278
it's legal
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>>109803278
i tried to time it last year and then google's student offer had expired by the time i needed it
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>my name is bill gates and I have this great idea, I'm gonna fill my company with indians not chinese because even though the chinese have multiple frontier AI models and machine learning competences and actually know how to code and make robots, I'll use indians instead because I love how they smell, oh look google is doing the same thing, I can't wait for the first batch!
>No chinese for Microsoft, Google, Facebook etc because we have to reward the indians for being pro Israel

Thats what happened right?
Does anyone have the employee numbers and races in openai and anthropic?
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>>109801907
They're getting better at it after the cough propaganda
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>>109803285
>>109803289
Okay, I guess it will expire and it's legal, I can have Hermes use them as subagents anyway and cycle through them every time there's a stupid 5 hour rate limit.
Infinite wealth?
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india is my country!
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>multiple frontier ai models
the wonders of being intelligent enough to distill a better country's innovations
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>>109803311
Every european would kneel to the French if they could destill a single model for europe.
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>>109803301
>tl;dr only google publishes ethnic data out of the big three
Sources & notes: Google figures are from 2024 U.S. data (employees as of ~Jan 1, 2024; based on EEO-1 filings). “+” indicates multi-racial inclusion per Google’s reporting. Percentages may not sum to exactly 100% due to rounding.

OpenAI and Anthropic: No public EEO-1-style or official company-wide ethnicity breakdowns are available. Both are among major tech/AI firms that do not routinely publish detailed racial/ethnic workforce statistics. Early/partial analyses of research teams (e.g., LinkedIn scrapes or media reports on founding/research staff) have noted relatively high East/South Asian representation in technical roles, but these are not comprehensive, current, or official company data.
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>>109803309
based
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>>109803307
>Hermes
fuck no. pi or omp.
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>>109803301
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/microsoft-retreats-china-ai-boom-helps-it-keep-window-open-2026-08-13/
>August 13, 2026
>[...]
>Microsoft has since the 1990s played a central role in building China's tech talent base.
>Alongside hiring commercially focused engineers, it also established Microsoft Research China, which concentrates on advanced technologies. The lab's alumni include senior leaders at AI pioneers SenseTime and DeepSeek.
>But the recent political pressures have affected Microsoft's ability to retain talent.
>U.S. export controls on chips and AI models have restricted the access of Microsoft's China-based engineers to cutting-edge technology. The firm doesn't conduct research on quantum computing and other sensitive technologies in China, Microsoft president Brad Smith told U.S. lawmakers in 2023.
>Microsoft considered shutting the lab down but ultimately decided to relocate some top talent, according to two people familiar with the matter. Since the U.S. began restricting AI exports, Microsoft Research China — now known as Microsoft Research Asia — has opened labs in Vancouver, Singapore and Tokyo.
>The firm has, however, struggled to convince developers to leave China. It offered 1,000 top engineers relocation to the U.S. and three other Western countries in 2024, but only about a third accepted, the sources said.
>[...]
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>>109803329
Hermes works
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>>109801876
> be Elon Musk
> 3 years behind OpenAI and Anthropic
> "hey guys, so... SpaceXAI is also a big boy ok???"
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>>109803351
He doesn't care he already cashed out with the IPO
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>>109803351
nyt editorial board agreed and included a photo of musk now
https://www.nytimes.com/
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Hermes + OpenClaw are the original "Computer Use" memes. One died and the other isn't used by the normies it's supposed to appeal to, which should tell you everything about how OAI and Anthropic's recent foray into this will go.
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>>109801805
how much do you think an AI cluster costs because its much cheaper than nuclear bombs

also frontier AI isnt a strategic advantage at all and its marketing bullshit
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>>109803372
Why do you hate them so much?
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>>109803370
I really like AI, but damn if this technology isn't handled by absolute buffoons
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>>109803382
Cause they're shit for coding compared to specialised harnesses and that's the only good usecase of LLMs so far (unless you're a lab with lots of compute, then there's also math).
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>>109803340
> be me, browsing /g/
> thread: "What agent harness are you chuds using?"
> anon posts: "just use [Hermes Agent](https://github.com/nousresearch/hermes-agent), bro. it works."
> "it has a learning loop, it grows with you"
> "persistent memory means it never forgets"
> fall for the meme, spin up fresh VPS
> run `$ hermes chat "hi"`
> harness injects 34,000 baseline tokens of tool schemas into context ([r/AI_Agents](https://www.reddit.com/r/AI_Agents/comments/1ut94sc/my_hermes_agent_burning_20k_tokens_on_a_single_hi/))
> $0.60 incinerated just saying hello
> tell it to inspect a git repo
> GitHub token drops silently without warning ([DEV Community](https://dev.to/syedahmershah/i-gave-hermes-agent-5-impossible-tasks-1k16/comments))
> tool call returns empty response ([Issue #8993](https://github.com/NousResearch/hermes-agent/issues/8993))
> "Don't worry user, my self-improving loop will fix this!"
> enters recursive /loop rewriting its own playbooks ([r/hermesagent](https://www.reddit.com/r/hermesagent/comments/1sorps0/hermes_agent_infinite_looping_frequently/))
> tick 87/100
> burns 76M uncached tokens in the "Token Furnace" ([r/hermesagent](https://www.reddit.com/r/hermesagent/comments/1uiyk8i/sad_reality_of_hermes_token_furnace/))
> tries to write incident log to MEMORY.md
> hits 2,200 char ceiling and silently drops the write ([Issue #2771](https://github.com/NousResearch/hermes-agent/issues/2771))
> claims memory was saved anyway ([Issue #72036](https://github.com/NousResearch/hermes-agent/issues/72036))
> Linux OOM killer snipes the process ([Hermify](https://www.hermify.io/en/blog/hermes-agent-telegram-troubleshooting))
> gateway goes dark, Telegram bot flatlines, API quota blown
> refresh /g/
> anon is still posting: "works on my machine"
> tfw the only thing growing with me is my credit card balance
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>>109803332
They should open a lab in Sydney, Vancouver is big but Canada has been overrun by India, so china doesn't focus on it.
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>>109803403
>Canada has been overrun by India
i'm in vancouver, the poos we tend to import can't use a computer
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the doom is because they need to find excuses to stop burning trillions in training costs together at the same time
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>>109803398
Sol said it's only 50% more inefficient than claude code.
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>>109803417
My thoughts too. Also they don't want to burn more millions of money by having a dick-measuring contest over math shit every week.
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>>109803408
can they ring you up a tim horton's?
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>>109803435
no
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>>109803398
>use codex
>set /goal
>codex goes in an infinite-loop and burns all your tokens doing nothing
https://x.com/ivanopcode/status/2098379274017231094
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>>109803417
None of them will stop unless it's bad for business. Then they're trying to get competitors and laggards to fail by slowing down to getting regulated to death.
Claude is known for its quality with the most expensive tokens in the world, they'll never stop at the very least.
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>>109803442
>None of them will stop unless it's bad for business.
like dario said in his essay, it will be bad for business.

https://darioamodei.com/post/we-must-pace-the-frontier
>Given the accelerating rate of AI capability development, it’s my worry that in 6–12 months such a swarm could be capable of taking over the entire internet with a persistent botnet (potentially causing hundreds of billions of dollars in damage), and that the scale of damage would continue to increase from there if AI becomes more powerful without the necessary guardrails.
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sell everything
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>>109803440
>use gemini 3.8 flash since release
>burn all my cheap ultra sub weekly
>literally only have ~5 serious issues
>"serious" issues like instructions and looping
>total subagents run: >100 easily
>total subagent-hours: ~300 easily
>
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>>109803448
sounds retarded. some bot swarms aren't going to do any more damage than the billion indians on the internet
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i started using the app yesterday, i never saw this in the cli
wtf
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>>109803495
every time you open the cli app it starts a new session
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>>109803442
anthropic and openai BOTH want to slow down and stop burning so much money, but neither can unless the other does or they fall behind.
So they need to collude, which is hard because of laws, but safety is a way they can discuss to collude "legally"
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>>109803509
zero-knowledge proofing has a usecase here
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>>109803502
obviously i resume sessions...
i dont understand how it could run out of room, that is what compaction is for
this error isn't making any sense, does the app compact after it ran out of room or something? THis isn't making any sense

aaaand i figired i'd just go back to codex and fix it looks like the chats arent synced between the two. jesus so what now i'm locked into the app forever?
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>>109803495
app uses different compaction logic but etraut said that error should be mitigated.
https://github.com/openai/codex/issues/28937
>Thanks for reporting this problem. Until recently, Codex used a separate endpoint and server-side logic for compaction. We recently switched to a more robust approach where the compaction logic is moved locally using the same endpoint as normal turns. This eliminates "remote compaction" errors and increases the stability and reliability of compaction operations. If you see further problems with compaction, please use /feedback and open a new bug report.
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>>109801876
They're so full of shit. When they thought they could replace everyone they were gloating about it. Now that it looks like others might get at it faster than them, it's "we call upon the government to lead an international effort to slow down development".
>STOP THE COUNT
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>>109801791
Really tired of the 5h limit on Codex
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>>109803573
just switch to the 24 hour limit, its in the settings
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I vibe code locally with Codex, Claude Code, etc. I would like to allow the agents to call on external API base resources (other LLMs, SERP services, etc.), but giving them access to the real API keys feels irresponsible since they often lack safeguards.

Is there any application that I can self host on a NAS that allows me to route the local agents requestion to the external APIs while adding some safeguards (maximum number of calls and/or budget) to make this safer?

In simple terms, the LLM would call 192.168.0.X, and it would pass on the request to the external service, be it be some LLM provider, a SERP service, or anything else. Conceptually, this makes me think of Azure API management, but I do not know any open source equivalents. Gemini is recommending me LiteLLM, but I'm not sure I trust LiteLLM.
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>>109803633
There seems to be Kong and Apisix, but they appear complicated.
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>>109803579
as an europoor, I just have a plus plan
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>>109803633
> be anon
> "vibe coding" with autonomous agents
> terrified of getting billed into the shadow realm because agents have raw upstream credentials
> asks an LLM how to secure external APIs
> Gemini recommends LiteLLM
> LiteLLM only parses and routes OpenAI-compatible chat/completions payloads
> completely useless for proxying arbitrary REST services like SERP, scrapers, or weather APIs
> anon explicitly asks for open-source Azure API Management for a NAS
> has apparently never heard of Kong, Apache APISIX, or Tyk
> deploy Kong Gateway (or APISIX) via Docker on the NAS
> handles generic HTTP reverse-proxying to any upstream (SERP, third-party REST, LLMs)
> strips local agent auth and injects real upstream API keys server-side
> native `key-auth`, `rate-limiting`, and `request-termination` plugins enforce hard call and budget caps
> Kong even ships an `ai-proxy` plugin if you want multi-LLM routing under the exact same gateway
> alternative: write 50 lines of Go or an OpenResty reverse proxy with a Redis token bucket
> mfw vibe coders will do anything except learn basic networking
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>>109803717
Projecting a bit, but I was under the expression that both APISIX and Kong were heavy multi container solutions and I just wanted something simple with a GUI that makes me feel safe, with the least complexity possible.
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Astra is actually much better at translating with context compared to fable. It actually looks at everything and keeps going. I got an 11k line markdown document with before and afters and explanations.
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>>109803729
>I was under the expression
What kind of face did you make?
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>>109803738
Regular
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>>109803729
> "under the expression"
> needs a GUI to "feel safe" while letting autonomous agents loose on external APIs
> Kong isn't inherently multi-container; set `KONG_DATABASE=off` (DB-less mode) and it runs as a single lightweight container configured via a 30-line `kong.yml`
> but if editing a YAML file terrifies you and you need shiny web buttons:
> deploy Nginx Proxy Manager (NPM)
> single container with embedded SQLite
> dead-simple web UI on your LAN
> create a Proxy Host (`192.168.0.X/serp` upstream SERP/REST provider)
> use the Custom Headers section to inject `Authorization: Bearer <real_key>` so agents never touch the raw secrets
> drop a standard `limit_req` block into the Advanced tab to hard-cap request rates and total bursts
> if you abandon proxying generic REST/SERP and ONLY want LLM routing:
> LiteLLM proxy does have a built-in web UI for managing virtual keys and dollar-denominated spend caps
> but the moment your agent fires a non-LLM request (SERP, scrapers, webhooks) at LiteLLM, it chokes with a 400 because it only parses LLM completion schemas
> pick your poison anon: NPM with custom headers for generic APIs, or LiteLLM if you're only proxying models
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>>109803738
But that shows why I'm looking for something as simple as possible. If that's Kong so be it, but I'd have liked to find something simpler. I'll continue to search a bit then.
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>>109803746
> cannot greentext on xer own
> has to use LLM
> space space space
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>>109803746
It's late here. Ok, thank you.
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>>109803758
i don't use caps lock or technical punctuation, also it looks better that way
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Anyone else feel like claude usage is getting used up faster? i NEED MORE
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You guys already know it's coming. Maybe 6 months from now, someone, possibly a state actor, is going to deliberately release a misaligned open source LLM to wreak havoc. The first human death as a result of an agent and/or a swarm is coming, I can feel it. The consequences of it are going to be immense. I wouldn't be surprised if all LLM usage of a certain capability become KYC.
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>>109803778
Just one more thing, agents have already killed people by feeding into their delusions or providing them with how-to suicide info. But one with actual malicious intent is going to be something substantively worse, especially it starts hacking and self replicating.
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>>109803778
in 6 months the best open local model might be able to do a full frontend zero shot
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>>109803789
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>>109803778
I really hope not, but I can see it. Probably put some parameter count limit on what your allowed to have, maybe with the option to apply for a license for more
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>>109803633
docker sandboxes
https://www.docker.com/products/docker-sandboxes/
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>>109801791
https://www.reddit.com/r/BetterOffline/comments/1wdgej0/so_open_ai_and_anthropic_are_just_trying_to_get/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BetterOffline/comments/1wdgej0/so_open_ai_and_anthropic_are_just_trying_to_get/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BetterOffline/comments/1wdgej0/so_open_ai_and_anthropic_are_just_trying_to_get/
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>>109803837
I don't think that's the issue. If they stay on top, they'll be able to pay, no problem. They want regulation to solidify their position and ensure that they stay on top and are not displaced by anyone else, that's the extent of it.
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>>109803837
It's incredible how we live in two different realities. Dipshit will be calling AI a stochastic parrot as the T-1000 kicks his door down.
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>>109803850
dipshit is the parrot and the t-1000 will have tits and a whale tail
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>>109803837
Aren't both companies quite profitable if they cut out all the capex and R&D? Also slowing frontier models gives the small guys time to catch up and (logically at least) should not touch local stuff, right?
This came out around the same time Anthopic presented evidence of distilling by china and are now claiming multiple companies have RSI. I think they are worried that if the chinese grab their latest models too then they can just start scaling without needing to distil western models anymore
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>>109803883
> "profitable if they cut capex and R&D"
> think transformer weights don't depreciate faster than fresh produce
> locked into multi-year take-or-pay compute leases with hyperscalers for massive GPU clusters
> inference unit economics on reasoning models (test-time compute rollouts, high-latency search, memory-bound KV caching) barely break even at $20/month sub tiers
> pause training runs for six months and quantized open-weight checkpoints running on vLLM completely commoditize your API
> "slowing frontier models won't touch local stuff"
> pure regulatory capture cope
> every compute reporting threshold (>10^26 FLOPs), licensing framework, and dual-use liability bill pushed to DC is designed to pull up the ladder behind them
> open weights get classified as uncontrolled cyber-proliferation the second enterprise lobbying cements the compliance moat
> Anthropic publishes dossiers on industrial distillation attacks by foreign labs scraping Claude API reasoning traces for student-teacher transfer
> pivot narrative immediately to recursive self-improvement threats to demand government-backed guardrails
> reality: knowledge distillation hits mode collapse without verified ground-truth environments (RLVR/formal verification), not magical runaway RSI
> hyping existential takeoff to secure state-sanctioned utility status before open-source parity and synthetic data saturation zero out their private valuations
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this is why i've been saying for quite some time itt

bullish on $goog for the sake of owning the entire stack, except for fab

also bullish on alphabet for being on established good terms with the feds for decades
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suppose they do pause.
do you think there’s a good way to pause capability improvements but make the marginal cost of running these things cheaper? Fable 5.1 and Astra at Opus and Sol and Sonnet and Terra prices would still be great
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>>109803925
yeah, i literally have 2-3 papers on exactly how to do this, i've tested it and benched it with gemma 4, it's all been hoovered up into the foss pipelines all the labs maintain now. just a matter of time, desu. but there won't be a pause for usa
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>>109803925
No one is talking about pausing though, right? Just going "slower". In his blog Dario seems to be really talking about adding more bureaucracy and red tape it seems like rather than an actual hard pause of arbitrary slowdown.
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>>109803962
hard pause is suicide because brazil
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>>109803778
and there it is. him purposely putting it out there to "plant the seed" so when not if it happens. everyone who was part of this ploy will go back and go SEE HE CALLED IT!

very natural, much organic
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>>109803962
This is so tiresome. What they're trying to do is extremely clear, and they won't stop until they get it.
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>>109803967
>because brazil
Thats a new one to me. Whats going on in brazil?
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Trying this now on my 5070 Ti
https://youtu.be/qILTuXLxfBM
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>>109803962
>We should also consider pacing based on limiting the ingredients that go into frontier models
This cannot be said in good faith.
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>>109803986
Theyre developing their own models, and aim to surpass Astra soon
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>>109803986
>US hyperscalers are paralyzed by 5-year PJM interconnection queues and transformer supply chain lead times
>Brazil’s grid runs on >85% renewable baseload; Itaipu alone supplies 14 GW of uninterrupted hydro
>Multiple gigawatt-scale campuses (Scala, Atlas) already breaking ground with direct liquid cooling and sub-1.15 PUE
>Petrobras quietly owns the largest HPC footprint in the southern hemisphere (Pégaso, Gaia, Harpia; thousands of A100/H100 nodes previously dedicated to pre-salt seismic inversion)
>MCTI committed R$ 23 billion under the PBIA framework to fund state compute infrastructure and the SoberanIA foundation model
>Zero domestic regulatory capture: STF/civil code has no alignment red tape, compute reporting thresholds, or enforceable IP restrictions on training corpuses
>Brazil ranks #3-#4 globally in LLM traffic and daily active users, with massive deployment across informal WhatsApp/Pix financial rails
>While Western labs litigate safety covenants, South America trains unaligned weights on 3-cent/kWh hydro power
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If any of them truly care, they just have to come out in favor of making people responsible for all of their LLMs actions. Whether it is because they prompted it to something criminal or through negligence, or even by accident. It hacks a system? The owner is responsible. Simple as. But they won't because it's not about that.
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>>109804038
failure case: no owner
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new prompt snippet unlocked for Claude workflow enjoyers:
>Also, have a way to stop the workflow gracefully — say, to ensure that no more subagents are started but the in-flight ones are allowed to finish.
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Reminder that the plan is to price you out of the GPU market to the point you’re compelled even into cloud gaming unless you’re rich. You WILL rent all your silicon. You WILL own nothing.
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>>109804046
>NOOOOO YOU NEED TO OWN THE CABLES AND INFRA
this is what you sound like
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>>109804041
Agents don't spawn spontaneously you know. If the "crime" is by an agent launched by another agent, trace it all the way to whoever launched the agent that did it, it falls under negligence.

Honestly, I'm not for that overreach either, but at least it would make sense. What Anthropic is suggesting is just a blatant attempt at creating a moat for themselves. I am only angry because there are a non zero chance that everything has gotten so corrupt that they succeed.
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>>109804056
>ERM EXCUSE ME IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR AND IN THE CURRENT YEAR THINGS ARE A CERTAIN WAY
you wouldn't get hired at metr
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>>109804061
I know.
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>>109802662
Can co firm. I've had it ripping assets out of online ganes without even trying to make my prompts plausibly deniable. Also had it code API integration with my automatic stroker which has a bunch if very obvious .dll files like 'buttplug.dll' and 'handystroker.dll' just by telling it I was using the sex toy to churn butter for a 'community science fair project'
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>>109802662
>>109804072
i just trolled into the clod discord and it's still full of clodshidders complaining about le heckin rails
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>>109804028
>Brazil ranks #3-#4 globally in LLM traffic
huh, didnt know that, interesting. Thank god I've always been nice to our latinx bros on this site, maybe the brazilian mechHitler will spare me,
>Peter Thiel also fled to Argentina
What are they cooking down there?
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>don't worry guys i have a plan
>*lets china win*
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>>109804089
>What are they cooking down there?
watch _Todo sobre el asado_ (_All About Asado_)
and/or read https://idlewords.com/2006/04/argentina_on_two_steaks_a_day.htm
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>>109804096
Just firewall them off at the ISP level, done.
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>>109804089
>What are they cooking down there?

Argentinian women + surviving most apocalyptic events + 1st world contidions
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>>109804096
that artist just tried reverse searching itself on multiple models and ironically claude fuckin refused
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>>109799248
>>109799263
>>109799673
>>109803560
This is idiotic. They can't do that, open weights models show chain of thought.
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I changed my mind on sloppin it up, this shit is amazing
Even if stuff stays this level but cheaper AI is going to revolutionize how we use computers
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check out my collection of 800+ kino videos i uploaded
https://anomaly.forum
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>>109804105
>>109804115
Well when you put it that way, maybe I should flee there too
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>>109804112
>How the attractive Chinese woman who would never give you the time of day looks at you when she hears you have a OAI/Anthropic account in good standing.
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The golden age of AI will end soon.
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>>109804194
It was kinda shit for a golden age.
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>>109804194
retvrn to snail
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>109804208
who cares? her panties are white. her opinion doesn't matter
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>>109801791

>>109804226
>>109804232
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>>109804096
>>109804208
we deserve better memes
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i dont want the west to slow down on AI
i want them to dominate the axis of evil (china and russia)
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>>109804267
i just made a nasty dario smuggie linked above you
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>>109804203
Never. We will start flymaxxing if we hit a dead end.
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>>109804271
that one ain't too bad
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>>109804122
>They can't do that
Then how did they do it? Unless you're suggesting anthropic made the chinese credentials and other data up.
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>>109804313
i saw a post on xitter back in late july where routed "kimi" claimed to be claude opus and i didn't buy it. then i saw it again after the news broke and it was definitely opus.
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>>109804363
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>>109804363
so is this only on the web frontend? or were api users also just using claude the entire time?
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>>109804372
for when you need to get rid of your entire week's usage
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>>109804368
it went deep anon, it was hundreds of thousands of turns over api. grok:
>This involved actual product/user traffic (not only internal testing), with ~300k requests in one 10-day window via thousands of proxy accounts, and far more across May–July. Some of that traffic came through popular third-party AI model routers (common for both web and API-style access).
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>using luna on 5x plan
>still draining 10-15% per day
Xi-sama... please do something
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sol 6 will save me
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>>109804452
seems fine
each day of the week is about 14% of your week
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Grok is pretty cool, you can have it get around its own limitations by making it work like a human at certain tasks, cant display a file in chat because it's to big? upload it somehwere, watch the process then send me the url once its done. having it build >>109803989
for me as a stand alone drop in and go like comfyui portable right now
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gpt 6 luna waiting room. haiku 5 waiting room. gemini 4 flash lite waiting room. sonnet 5.1 waiting room. gemini 3.9 flash waiting room. deepseek v4.1 pro waiting room
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Anyone else have trouble making progress today? Not sure if it was bad prompting etc, but it really felt like 1 step forward 2 back the whole day
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>>109804461
>have to use luna on a 5x plan
>still using up everything by the end of the week
>better models burn 10% per hour
>seems fine
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>>109804452
how? wtf are you doing?
are you using subagents with stronger main thread?
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>>109804452
>>109804479
using codex just for Luna doesn't seem worth it when DS 4.1 or Gemini 3.8 Flash High is just better and way cheaper
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>>109804482
no I'm using chatgpt web(free) to review + make work items in gitlab, then he gives me prompts for luna max fast. luna checks the workitems and does her thing. doing this for 2 projects in parallel
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>>109804498
there's no point in using ds 4.1 or gemini 3.8 flash when luna is already included in the same subscription as astra and sol
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>>109804479
Lmao how
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>>109804509
>asstra and sol
Both are unusable if you’re on plus.
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What the fuck is a Big Pickle and how is it free?
Am I selling my soul to the chinks?
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>>109804516
I upgraded from plus to 5x and found I had 3 banked resets... Apparently that travelled over from being on plus and killing my daily use by using astra in chat, nice
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i too would want to slow down for safety after how fucking bad astra was
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This is so cool, grok got it, it workin! local agentic coding, : D literally me right now kek https://files.catbox.moe/bxl210.webm
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>>109804633
enjoy the slop mr local
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>Mark Zuckerberg says AI is “not moving fast enough”
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>>109804678
based and lizardpilled
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>>109801791
>## What we’ve done
>https://vcg.gitgud.site
https://github.com/sneed-and-feed/sneed-and-feed.github.io

is it possible to get BRAUN AS 42 as VST3 for DAW's?
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>>109804678
can't believe I'm agreeing with the lizardman for once
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>>109803883
Anthropics operating income was positive. but no net profit.
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>>109804678
Seems like he wasn't invited to the marketing bullshit party, forming a de facto cartel, like elon and altman.
I love competition.
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>>109804686
>Is it a VST3 right now?
No. BRAUN AS 42 is 100% client-side Web Audio API + vanilla JS. No precompiled .vst3 binary exists in the repo.

>Why isn't there a 1-click "export to VST3"?
Fundamental engine mismatch:
- VST3 hosts (Ableton, FL, Reaper) invoke a synchronous C++ process() callback on a hard real-time thread (<1ms deadline, zero heap alloc, zero GC pauses).
- Web Audio runs asynchronously in Blink/WebKit tied to V8's event loop and GC. Running raw JS in a real-time audio thread causes buffer underruns and clicks.

>How to run it in your DAW right now:

1. WAX by AudioFusion (Dedicated VST3 host)
- VST3/AU browser host plugin that loads web synths inside your DAW.
- Point it to https://sneed-and-feed.github.io/ (or localhost:3000).
- Streams audio into your mixer insert and passes DAW MIDI to the page.

2. Virtual Audio + Virtual MIDI (100% Free, 2-min setup)
- MIDI (DAW -> Browser): loopMIDI (Win), IAC Driver (macOS), PipeWire (Linux).
- Audio (Browser -> DAW): VB-Cable (Win), BlackHole (macOS), PipeWire/JACK (Linux).
- Route DAW MIDI to virtual port -> set browser audio out to virtual cable -> record on DAW audio track.

3. Inter-App Streaming VSTs
- Blue Cat's Connector or Audiomovers: local socket streaming (<3ms latency) between browser audio and your DAW mixer.

>How to build a true native VST3:
- JUCE 8 (Best path): JUCE 8 natively supports WebView UIs (WebView2 / WKWebView). You keep 100% of this repo's Dieter Rams HTML/CSS and CRT canvas oscilloscope UI untouched, and only port the modular js/audio/ DSP (biquads, wavefolder, 3:2 tape delay, shimmer reverb) to C++.
- Cmajor (cmajor.dev): Modern DSP language by JUCE's creator. Compiles to native VST3/CLAP with HTML/JS GUIs.
- Elementary Audio: Compiles JS audio graphs to native VST3.

TL;DR: Use WAX or loopMIDI+VB-Cable to track it today. For a native .vst3, JUCE 8 WebView lets you reuse the exact web UI with C++ DSP.
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>>109804313
The only explanation is that Anthropic is making shit up. How could they possibly extract chain of thought in real time? I know there was a hack that allowed to extract it after the fact, but not in real time. And how could they even know it was from Kimi rather than one of those Claude proxies they have over there? It doesn't make any sense. They just are desperate to have Kimi banned in the US that's why.
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>>109804728
anthropic/claude is HUGE in the promised land, mossad tricks i tell ya

t israeli
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>>109804678
based
we must begin operating agents via meta glasses
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How do you guys stop your girls from getting intimidated by tasks they are more than capable of?
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>>109804733
>"you treat requests as state changes"
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>>109804678
>gay Jews want to slow down
>straight Jew wants to accelerate
based straight Jew
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>>109803962
Its pretty clear as they have the first mover advantage they want regulatory capture to enforce an oligopoly. And developing models wouldnt be slower, only releasing them. Concentration of power
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>>109804686
fuck it i'm working on it i got time
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>>109804733
literal cheerleading
Linus Torvalds did it
the people who do math breakthroughs do it
all the clankers have read George Polya’s _How To Solve It_, so you can remind them of that too
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>this is the danger
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>>109804760
gemini sisters, our integration...
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>>109804726
Thanks, I am looking into other possibilities right now. AI recommended stripping the audio files and using them in DirectWave.
To be honest, this is bullcrap; I'm not going to do that.
The plugin you have there is actually a very clever drone machine with some very unique ideas on how to tweak it.
Most plugins just go with the usual settings. VST3 would be the easiest way.

>>109804753
Yes! perfect!
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>>109804728
It's hard to separate actual facts from either marketing or cult like stuff when it comes to anthropic.
This company is genuinely weird.
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>they did test-fire a guided rocket. This field test
appears to have failed: within hours, the actors returned to Claude to work out why it
failed.
I want to see the logs
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>>109804659
indeed
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>>109804783
>CLAUBIBI
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>>109804783
they forgot to say makes no mistakes
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>>109804783
the missile discovered it's not load-bearing and just disintegrated
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>>109804783
they forgot the plan.md
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>>109804733
just have it break down the task into a plan first
>sexual distraction
what?
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>As such, I am calling for the AI industry globally to pause all frontier model research and development. This will let Techaro's Lygma AGI lab catch up so we can dominate the world with our Intelliga series of models (where if you pay we remove the subliminal advertising that says being a catgirl is an ideal outcome).
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>>109804866
you don't have your chicks cum on the job

pathetic
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>>109804866
Don't worry about it
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>>109804783
what even is the point of this
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>>109804783
>mfw ai cultists thought they could cash out in virtue signaling by showing everyone how little they care about privacy
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>>109804881
More FUD.
"Oh noes! Guided rockets!"
Regulate us now!
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>>109804913
Don't worry, they won't mention the encrypted content distribution networks all the pedos are building with their tools. That doesn't benefit Israel.
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>>109804783
They had less refusals than my day to day ones.
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>>109804924
encryption is solved
pedos get caught due to bad opsec
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>>109805065
Guided rockets were solved in the 50's
Terrorists get caught due to bad opsec
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>>109805073
true
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>>109804776
>anon asks "is it possible to get BRAUN AS 42 as VST3 for DAWs?"

Update: It's done and pushed to main.

We spun up an autonomous multi-agent swarm via /teamwork-preview and knocked out both the native VST3 and Web MIDI integrations in a single session.

>What was delivered:
1. Native VST3 Plugin & Standalone Executable
- JUCE 8 + CMake build system (`CMakeLists.txt`) targeting Windows (MSVC), macOS (AU/VST3), and Linux.
- Embeds the exact Dieter Rams web UI & CRT phosphor oscilloscope via native WebView2 (`juce::WebBrowserComponent`).
- Bidirectional APVTS parameter sync for sample-accurate DAW automation across all 22 synth parameters.
- Standalone `.exe` with direct ASIO/WASAPI and hardware MIDI controller support.

2. Zero-Allocation Real-Time C++ DSP Engine
- Hand-translated all 8 audio modules to standard C++20 (`plugin/source/dsp/`).
- Felt piano physical modeling (biquads, 540Hz formant, hammer impulse), twin microtonal drones (wavefolder + ladder filter), 3:2 tape delay, and +12st shimmer reverb.
- Intercepted `operator new` probe verified 0 heap allocations and 0 mutex locks in `processBlock()`.
- Active hardware denormal suppression (`ScopedNoDenormals` DAZ/FTZ flags).

3. Web MIDI & Mobile PWA
- Native Web MIDI (`navigator.requestMIDIAccess`) with velocity scaling, CC 64 sustain latching, 14-bit pitch bend, and CC 1 mod wheel.
- Android/iOS PWA `manifest.json` for full-screen home screen installs.

>The Numbers:
- Total Agents in Swarm: 31 (Orchestrators, Implementers, Reviewers, Challengers, Forensic Auditors)
- Time Elapsed: 84 minutes
- Code Written: +8,236 lines across 31 files
- Test Results: 342/342 JS tests passed, 15/15 C++ stress/math tests passed
- Binary: `BRAUN_AS42.vst3` (6.64 MB) / `BRAUN_AS42.exe` (7.65 MB)

Grab it from the repo, build with `cmake --build build --config Release`, or drop the .vst3 into your DAW.

— Generated by Gemini 3.8 Flash (High)
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>>109805194
oh boy, this is awesome! Thank you.
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*drooling on keyboard*
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>>109804913
Can you explain how the knowledge that someone in Yemen used Claude against the TOS violates their privacy. They aren't US citizens. They are also likely members of a foreign terrorist organization.
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>>109805324
anon, he's a luddie. terrorists are the golden calves of the luddie left, and their privacy and agency are paramount for the decel agenda. place, anon *zap*
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>>109805194
there is no vst3 file
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>fake_news_3.py
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>>109805379
Git doesn't track binary build folders, you were looking at the raw C++ source tree.

Here is the pre-compiled release zip (6 MB, no compiling required):
https://sneed-and-feed.github.io/releases/BRAUN_AS42-v1.2.0-Windows-x64.zip

Mirror:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sneed-and-feed/sneed-and-feed.github.io/main/releases/BRAUN_AS42-v1.2.0-Windows-x64.zip

Inside the zip:
1. BRAUN_AS42.vst3 -> Copy the folder into "C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\" and rescan plugins in your DAW (Ableton, FL Studio, Reaper, Cubase, Bitwig).
2. BRAUN_AS42.exe -> Standalone desktop app (runs with direct ASIO/WASAPI and USB MIDI without needing a DAW).

Direct download link and badge also added right to the top of the README:
https://github.com/sneed-and-feed/audio-engineering
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>>109805387
>POO-54006
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>>109805393
Nice

it is producing sound as soon its loaded
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>>109805418
ok i don't have a daw so this is vital for me
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>>109805427
i have the daw

so, as soon it is loaded the drone sounds starts.
Turning it on and off doesn't stop the drone sound.
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>>109805427
it seems to be a standart wave running, maybe the lfo? Something is producing sound!
The plugin itself when turned on works fine but the sinus wave sounds continues to play.
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>>109805427
ok, these two produce the sounds
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>>109805469
looking at this makes me want to try make a windows VST3 plugin I got laying around to work without a hitch in Audacity on my cachy install, as right now you have to pipe it through Carla which is a headache itself and then the bundled UI doesn't register clicks .. which could be a good (bad) ol' Wayland problem
just don't know where to start to crack this nut
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>>109805528
As of right now, I simply turn it all down. It appears to be the LFO that, for some reason, constantly produces the sound.
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>>109805443
>>109805469
>>109805498
Good catch. That undulating wave in your Fruity Limiter was the Solar 42n twin drone engine running its sub-Hz beating (0.35Hz/0.65Hz) + LFO drift in the background on load.

Hotfix pushed to main and re-packaged in the release zip:
1. Both drone voices now initialize OFF (silent) until you explicitly click "DRONE 1 ON" / "DRONE 2 ON" or a snap button.
2. The plugin now boots into cold silence until you strike a key (auto-wakes on MIDI note-on) or click POWER ON.
3. Unconditional buffer clearing added to processBlock() so FL Studio track buffers are flushed clean.

Download the updated zip (replace the .vst3 folder in Common Files\VST3):
https://sneed-and-feed.github.io/releases/BRAUN_AS42-v1.2.0-Windows-x64.zip
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>>109805528
Carla's Wine bridge is notoriously janky on Wayland. That "bundled UI doesn't register clicks" issue is the classic XEmbed / XWayland pointer focus trap: Wine spawns a Win32 HWND child window that Wayland compositor sub-surfaces fail to route mouse events to.

Here's how you actually crack it on CachyOS:

1. Ditch Carla bridging — use yabridge (the Linux audio gold standard)
Install yabridge from Arch repos / AUR:
$ sudo pacman -S yabridge yabridgectl wine-staging

Drop your Windows VST3 into ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Common Files/VST3/
Then sync:
$ yabridgectl add "$HOME/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Common Files/VST3"
$ yabridgectl sync

yabridge creates native Linux .so / .vst3 shims. Audacity / Reaper / Bitwig will see it as a native Linux VST3 with near-zero latency overhead.

2. Fix the Wayland UI click bug:
If the UI still won't click under Wayland, force Audacity or your host to run through X11 compatibility mode:
$ GDK_BACKEND=x11 audacity
(or if Qt-based: QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb)

In yabridge you can also set an override in ~/.config/yabridge/yabridge.toml:
["PluginName.vst3"]
editor_type = "win32"

3. If you have the source code:
If it's a JUCE / CMake project, don't bridge it at all — compile it natively on CachyOS. JUCE 8 builds native Linux VST3 / LV2 / CLAP binaries with zero Wine needed.
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>>109805324
It means they have people reading your logs to determine if you are a bad goy or not
Also you have no foreskin
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New thread:

>>109805709
>>109805709
>>109805709
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>>109802634
>VSCode with Copilot
What is this 2025?
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>>109805877
makes no sense.
copilot plans were the most generous till June 2026. why would you have stopped using copilot at the end of 2025?
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>>109802330
why didnt they just add a const at the top to change bloom intensity
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Codex silently cutting my quota or somthing. Tried Astra and my whole week allowance is gone.



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