/iemg/ Dogma Check
Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:

>Crinacle is not your priest.
Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.

>Harman and JM-1 ≠ perfect.
It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.

>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.
Great value, yes. Immune to QC issues and hype cycles? Nope.

>Graphs are not sound.
They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.

>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.
Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.

>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.
If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.

>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.
Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.

>Loud posts =/= smart takes.
Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.

>Cognitive dissonance.
When you're presented with a truth that threatens your entire perception of the world around you, your brain will simply refuse to process it.

This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.

>>109807068
>shill expensive pos
>use cheap pos yourself
Absolutely enormous number of cases.

shill me something, preferably dd openback, something that can be good buy for black friday

>>109807244
precog already made a list for you. just remember to turn it upside down first

>>109807244
>dd openback
The most cursed niche of audio. Literally nothing worth using.

>>109807355

>>109807362
Why.

>>109807394
they look cool and good

>>109807410
Understandable. R70xa looks pretty cool. Haven't tried it though.

>>109807362
I have r70x it's fine but currently it's probably better to buy something like aune ar5000 or whatever

>>109807362
I used to have AD2000X as my main open back before I switched to IEMs few years back. Loved it for weebshit but that wings and fixed cable are retarded. Just remember to import from Japan, especially in EU where you charge you at least double for higher end models.

>>109807244
TGX Serratus

>>109807244
Sony H6 Air
You don't need more than that. Comfort and EQ platform king.

>>109807903
why the fuck did they add the volume wheel though
that shit will inherently break
it has the mv1 drivers so it's decent, different tuning though

>>109807244
I was thinking about Audiotechinca or Fostex, dont really know. I need to check if buying pair new or used from Japan will be cheaper than buying here in EU, chink stuff can cost like -40% vs eu price. Maybe its same case with japan made pos

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>>109807615
Who said I didn't. The hiss is too strong on it. The small ones are actually useable.

>>109809029
so the s350ts are actually not that good?

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I'm a never-tws guy

>>109809247
trve avdiophile

>>109809174
For me the hiss is an immediate failure of a product as a whole.

>>109809247
Real abyss or that chink knockoff that probably sound better?

i bought a light shuttle over the kong you. now i kind of regret it. the light shuttle had a better coin discount though, so i guess it's not that bad?

>>109809247
damn imagine being this miserable
am i right fellow 4chinners

tws is so much better than wired, it's insane lol

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why not both?

Reminder to avoid EPZ as a whole lmao

Bought moondrop puddings for indoor rowing but they keep falling out of my ears. Have tried different tips but they wont stop falling out. Any iems good for cardio that wont constantly fall out? I'd prefer to have some with noise cancelling. 100 dollar budget.

>>109810206
also want wireless

>>109810077
based

>>109810206
we just consume wired chifi slop here
follow this nigga https://www.scarbir.com/guide/best-tws-under-100

>>109810206
see >>109810077

https://crinear.com/protocol-micro mogs all OP reccs, nothing personal kid !

>>109810283
>"those companies have nooo clue what they're doing"

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>>109810283

>>109810404
>"skill issue"

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>>109810404
>>109810451
can you blame them?

>>109807139
Hey, i have those :)

>clicks, pops, hiss, power saving chops off notification sounds
How the fuck are dongles still so glitchy, every dongle has at least one of these. Been using the same one for the last 5 years that by some miracle doesn't have any issues.

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Ess even got the cirrus disease now.

>>109810647
which ESS chip?

also,
>"-25db preamp, it gives this good fidelity..."
is pretty much bullshit. that much negative pregain is reducing bit-depth as well as killing dynamic range.

>>109810781
ES9039Q2M, nicehck octave.
>reducing bit-depth as well as killing dynamic range.
Not an issue when outputting in anything above 16 bit(even if the audio is 16 bit).

>>109810626
I got an ALC5686 dongle, CX31993, and CS43131
no issues with any of them, they all perform the exact same
my JM20 CS43131 does get strangely hot compared to the other 2, even though they draw and produce the exact same power

>>109810846
CX and ALC hiss, CS clicks.

>>109810830
Fosi ds3 also uses it and also seems to have issues.

SPV4040 hisses. KT02H20 chops notifications. It's so over.

>>109810830
>Above 16-bit, therefore negative pre-gain doesn't matter.
technically wrong. 24-bit output prevents −30 dB attenuation from becoming a huge loss of source resolution, sure. but it doesn't make attenuation free.
you're still operating the DAC ~30 dB below full scale, so its analog noise floor is ~30 dB closer to the signal. 'still above 16-bit' isn't the same thing as 'no dynamic-range loss.'
you're not losing five bits of the original 16-bit resolution just because you're outputting 24-bit but you're sacrificing ~30 dB of DAC referenced SNR/headroom, tho

>>109810206
Storm.

render pro tips any good?

KZ Castor arrived, they look almost identical to the CCA Trio I have (pretty sure they’re the same company). But they sound tinnier and are a bit fatiguing. Maybe I should have bought the bassy version instead of the harmeme version.

Also have a crinzero 2 and bnuuy to test later.

>>109811574
why did you buy that pos?

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>>109811574
kek KZ obsoleted castor by themselves already

>>109811642
>>109811907
Well I really like the CCA Trio, and figure that this might just be a cheaper more refined version of it. Even if it didn’t sound the same, I figure the EQ switches would get it close enough. I was wrong, but it was pretty cheap so who cares.

Zero 2 is great, though damn it’s a real sensitive IEM. 1/16 volume bars on an ipad is still too loud. Possibly slightly fatiguing, but once the volume is at a good level I think I could wear listen to music through them for hours without problem. The cable is kinda shit though.

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>browsing ss
>find .dff file
>download nearly 3GB audio file
>play it
>audio clicks
If I consoom more expensive audio gear, will the clicks and pops go away, or is it the files?

>>109810860
>CX and ALC hiss
Lol no they don't. That's your personal problem

>>109812555
play the file on multiple different sources and see if it's from the file itself

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>>109807139
what are the SMALLEST in-ears around? I don't car about quality or price. I just want something minuscule.

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>>109812606
Tangzu Princess ChangLe's are very small. Smaller than Chu, no clue what's smaller

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>>109811574
castor has nobass
add a low shelf at 100hz with +10db

I also can't get a good seal, I can't push them in deep enough because the nozzle base is too fat and doesn't extend out properly (compare it to the zero2s in the pic f.e.)
the good thing is, they don't seem to cause too much compression and stay comfortable for quite a while

zero2s are worlds ahead but the castors have pretty detailed treble while still being quite smooth, doesn't fatigue me at all
listening to shit like shoegaze is very nice with these

>>109812606
Sony MH755 shape are as small as they come. That particular model isn't available for purchase anymore so Sony MDREX155AP or MDR-EX110AP are currently the smallest.

>>109812643
>castor has nobass
should have got the improved bass version.

Pro tip: *Always* get the bass version.

>>109812922
these were on sale for under €10 on ali, that's why I picked them specifically, bass improved was 15 or so
it would have been fine if they actually were HARMAN

low shelf is a cheaper solution, wouldn't recommend them for the shit fitment though

>>109812555
99% of this and many flacs are just vinyl rips and you'll get higher quality in mp3.

>>109812643
Shell shapes are pretty bad on both of these. You'll find something better no doubt.

>>109812643
>>109813041
The tips aren’t the best, no. But I found the smallest stock tips made for a half-decent seal.

don't know if im actually gonna get it, but my amethyst dragon has *supposedly* shipped

Any IEM recommendations for iPod Classic 6/7th gen?

>>109813618
>amethyst dragon
Is this some kind of dildo.

>>109813649
I recommend 3.5mm IEMs.

>>109812606
Not the absolute smallest but I have tiny ears and the only iems that I personally got that fit me well were Q1 Pro and Fola. Chu2 as well but that one isn't worth it imo.

Speaking of, I am looking for a small set with warm sound now. If anyone has a recommendation.

>>109810647
Meanwhile the based Fiio KA15 has literally Cirrus DAC and doesn't have the Cirrus disease.

Ordered jcally pj3 to check out the new ktmicro chip. Hopefully it doesn't have that fade in bullshit.

how much do i have to wait for zero 3

>>109815587
2 weeks

>>109815613
the hype is real

>>109815613
>>109815640
where im supposed to buy to skip shipping taxes,k im from eu btw

>>109816024
How will immigrants get their welfare benefits then? I'm not gonna teach you smuggling secrets

>>109807139
The thumbnail looked like someone pissing on a bunch of ducks

>>109815587
buy Crinear Nightfall tomorrow

>>109817065
nta, but someone said 2DD is a total meme, though........

Bluetooth adapter recommendations? Broke my recent pair of IEMs since I'm careless with the cable and they fell into the floor and split one of them. Now I'm making do with one leftie until a replacement comes but I'm looking to go wireless. Was looking at the TRN Scallop since it's cheap and same brand as my Medusa

>>109817065
why should i

consoom chu 3 or not? I already have chu 2 and salnotes zero 2, would it be redundant or bring something of value?

>>109817807
no why even are you even thinking of wasting more money

are you guys excited for AirPods 5?

>>109810283
I have one. It keeps a high noise floor when you play a sound and pause. Absolute meme product, Cringeacle should be ashamed of releasing something in this state

>>109817997
what IEM(s) did you use it with?

>>109818012
Daybreak, Falcon Ultra, Wyvern Abyss, earbuds like RW-3000 and RW-4000, every single one the same issue. It doesn't seem like my unit is defective, rather a bad implementation of the DAC chip.

does anyone know where i can buy audio technicas ATH-LS300iS iems in the uk?
i think they might be an older/not current model which might be making finding them harder

>>109818124
actually, those apparently have three drivers and ive just read that multiple drivers can cause issues with sound (is this true?)
if that is true could i be recommended an iem from audio technica that also has a play/pause button on the cable?

>>109818054
>daybreak- 20 ohms, 105dB/mW
>falcon ultra- 16 ohms 108dB/mW
>wyvern abyss- 32 ohms 105dB/mW
>rw 3000- 16 ohms 113 dB/mW
>16 ohms 118 dB/mW
you have a ridiculously sensitive collection here and I wouldn't really put the blame on bad implementation of the DAC chip. it could be a fixed electrical noise voltage being amplified by very sensitive transducers, instead of noisy DAC.
it's probably both a source-noise issue and a sensitivity issue, but the sensitivity is what determines whether the source's noise becomes audible.

>>109818054
unlikely to be a defective unit. this is expected behavior of a $10 SPV4040-based dongle paired with modern high-sensitivity IEMs. the low output impedance and PEQ storage are nice features for the price but the noise floor is simply not in the same league as an Apple dongle, a decent CS43131/CS43198 implementation, or anything with a measured residual noise under ~2–3 µV.
the higher-end Protocol Max is a completely different product aimed at much lower noise.

>>109818219
nah fag the thing is cooked, i have a softears s01 and a fiio ka11, none produces any audible noise, cringeacle dongle is washed. didn't even bothered to test the peq feature.

>>109818293
ok fag that's useful info, but I'm not wrong about you having very sensitive IEMs and your protocol micro seems to have worse audible noise performance than your reference dongles with those same sensitive loads. protocol micro seems to have a bad noise floor bc it's the most shit out of what you got and the sensitivity of your IEMs showed that.

>>109818219
106dB/mW is the average IEM sensitivity, nothing ridiculous about that.

>>109818571
did you average it out yourself? 118–118 dB/mW at 16 Ω absolutely puts you in very noise-sensitive territory. either way, if the exact same IEMs are silent on the KA11/S01 but hiss on the Protocol micro, that tells you the Protocol micro has a worse output noise floor. doesn't tell you that the SPV4040 DAC chip itself is the culprit. still need super sensitive IEMS to make it obvious, which was my point.

>>109818781
>118–118
106-118**

>>109818781
Anon discovers IEMs are noise sensitive, stay tuned.

>>109819003
wrong.

>Protocol micro has a worse output noise floor.
>his other dongles didn't have the issue
>still need super sensitive IEMS to make it obvious
>which was my point.
sensitive IEMs are noise sensitive and it takes a shit dongle to notice.
keep missing the plot

>>109819048
"Sensitive IEMs" and anon is talking about 99% of IEMs.

Is there even an IEM with sub 100dB sensitivity that isn't some fuckass planar?

>>109819084
singapoor-fi brands like subtonic and symphonium love to make extremely low sensitivity + low impedance multi-BA slop so you gotta source meme

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>ballzo can't hear
Nobody could have possibly predicted this.

>foxzo is the only one making a big deal about a topic she thinks only she's an authority on.
the usual.

If I fell in love with my cheapo DD and someone else comes along praising their superior DD, I'd be bitter as well.

>>109817985
No wire - no buy.

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Hi, after some research I found the name of the airpods-like shape is called open-fit or semi-on-ear. And I found Xiaomi buds 6 are the ones I'm looking for. Thanks for the help. Btw I still have the airpods 4 box and papers, can i just send it to a store to clean them and sell them back? how easy and fast is to sell used airpods? i personally would never buy user airpods or in-ear but who knows.

>>109812632
>>109812673
>>109814699
thanks families

After years of being an at home music enjoyer, I feel the need of getting a mobile sound solution.
While I don't expect IEMs to be as good as my DT 770s, I would like something in the same price range of 150 natobucks or so.
Do I just go with the Simgot SuperMix 4 as suggested in the buyfag guide or are there any more recent recommendations that are even better?

>>109820113
maybe DT 71 IE

>>109820238
nvm that's like $500+. oops

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Make sure to EQ your pos to Harman IE 2019 and enjoy scientific perfection

>>109807139
What are some good wired ones for asmr?

Rn I use some $10 ones off Amazon that look kind of like the 2000s apple earphones. Just wondering if there are better upgrades to make it feel more realistic lol

>>109820408
Thanks for the advice!

>>109820455
EQ them to $10,000 IEMs and you will be fine

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>>109820408
harman beta is barely fucking different from BK5128 DF... were they using not tilted one? Hard to imagine difference being this huge between them.

>>109821039
Harman used trained listeners, though.

>>109819295
>she

>>109819474
gay faggot

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>>109821477
>apple user calling someone gay

Any suggestions for open-back or semi open-back IEMs under $300?

>>109821563
For actually open experience get flatheads. Don't expect IEMs to be even semi open no matter how many holes they put in the faceplate. Get tri draco if you still refuse to believe this.

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>>109820408
Obsolete.

>>109821800
flatheads are just earbuds, no thanks

>>109820455
You already overpaid. Summit iems need not cost more than a energy drink but they can also be free: get a family member to snag you some complimentary airline buds next time they fly and then just eq that to fugaku.
they wont have cute anime mascots on them though (at least not the ryanair ones I use) so you're gonna have to put some stickers on them yourself. don't cheap out here, get holographic vinyl or something for increased techs

new DMS era dropped, this time performative nostalgia zoomer.

https://youtu.be/BzqAb5Y-GXQ?si=tJl4-HlD5kVdZCKi

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>have a linsoul 8 core cable
>the last year I noticed that the plug is loose on my phone
>clean the hole
>still loose
>suspect that my cable is worn
>look the date when I bought it
>2021
Is it possible that the 3.5mm male plug can get worn? I can't find a way to change or repair the input at the phone side.
>look into new linsoul cables
>only 16core available
Are they overkill and top thick to handle?

>>109821875
Yes but that's the only option. There's also isine and stax iems but they're outside your budget and unwearable.

>>109821504
no, you are gay if you are not an apple user in 2026

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Should I just get a usb c linsoul and let it go?
>>109821995

>>109821988
feels like he tripped recently but didn't take enough

>>109820455
When in doubt, you can always trust ol and reliable gato.

eurofag here, figured i would ask here since there's no /hpg/ alive.. i need a good 3.5mm audio jack cable for my current headphone, the ones i've bought are just utter SHIT, they break after a few weeks, 2 or 3 meters is enough. any suggestions?

>>109822735
Aliexpress is indispensable for cables. Even if the prices now aren't as good as used to be the cables themselves are much better than non-chink options.

>>109822825
not sure what you mean. i got some ugreen cables which are made in china and they are trash, got 3 of them, only 1 remains... are the aliexpress one any different?

>>109822857
>are the aliexpress one any different?
Yes.

>>109822735
>>109822857
yes, they are better but more expensive, check something like heartaudio cables (i had few of them) and go from there. I bet u can go away with even less expensvie stuff but try not to buy absolute trashtier cables for few usd. And if u are monkety with them even 1000usd cables will not last

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>>109822961
its odd, i dont tense the cables ever, but they seem to twist and that ends up breaking them, unsure how to avoid that (pic related). thanks for the suggestions, i'll look them up.

>>109823002
yeah, its due to twisting, Make sure u untwist them before use (it usually happens because u put away and take them in certain way that rotates them around 360 and after few times thats add up) and it should be good even with cheaper cables. 2,4,8 core cables it will be thicker but they can fail same as cheaper one, its just easier to notice that is twisted due to thicknes and lack of casing.

Honestly im suprised that the problem for some of u, my ocd makes even a single twist in a cable bother me so much that I have to untangle it.

>>109820408
I don't need to EQ my scientifically perfect Truthear Hexa.

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>Keksa
>Perfect

aside from the Bunny G what else can I add to my constantly growing collection of iem's? also since the truthear pure white dont have an exact date yet

I have the best experience with 4.4 mm. At this point I hardly listen to 3.5 mm any more. Simply getting too old to waste time on suboptimal formats.

Can't tell if bait or genuinely retarded

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i use a diy cable, thats just 30awg wires and a couple of the absolute cheapest ali connectors, for my most expensive headpos
no, you don't need more
image is from 10y ago ie shit quality

>>109823328
Source of cheap 2 pin connectors?

>>109823374
I got them a decade ago
the prices have gone through the roof since, even on aliexpress

all the audiophool related shit has gone up in price sadly
a single 4.4mm jack is like 5 bux for example

So far, I have only bought earphones from the CitruxPlus brand. They're cheap and work relatively well. Unfortunately, the latest batches that have arrived in my country are very poor quality. In fact, I bought several pairs of cheap earphones from different brands, and they were all terrible. In the end, I decided to buy a pair of Tangzu Wan'er S.G. earphones. They will be my first "earphones for big boys."
Have I made the right choice, or will I barely notice the difference in quality? How high or low should I set my expectations?

>>109821988
Better than his abyss era.

Talking about abyss. I'm tempted with buying fake ab1266 or zmf knockoff from AliExpress

>>109818202
anyone?

>>109823811
It's worse than $5 chinkshit in every way.

My hexa IEM broke and sounds quieter(right side)
Is the driver busted? the warranty's expired, so can I fix it, or should I just grab another cheap Chinese IEM...
Honestly a let down, 80 euros and it breaks lol

I blindly yoloed into Myth. It will either cure my stupidity for even wanting to try a kilobuck or push me further down the slope. Either way I lose.

>>109824099
I'd never pay eighty euros for such a small device, for forty euros you can get a wireless gaming headset with much better sound.

>>109824237
You can't.

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>>109824246
Yes you can.

>>109824261
Much worse sound quality.

>>109824287
Five times larger drivers can and will produce better sound.

>>109824296
The opposite of how it works. The ideal sound source is a point.

>>109824130
you have shown great courage and gumption today

>>109824296
That's not how sound works

Mysticraft seems like a scam of a brand lowkirkenuinely. Elysian and Thieaudio at least do respectable kilopos.

>>109824099
Did you drop it?

>>109824540
probably but i just save them under the pillow most of the times

>>109824099
Suck on the nozzle of the quiet side. Works sometimes unironically

>>109824566
is there any other way man, im not sucking 3 years worth of bacteria

>>109824566
First I have to stretch my ear-pussy because the nozzle is too wide, and now I have to suck it off?

>>109824574
Don't worry, as long as you wash your mouth with soap afterwards, it'll be fine

>>109824535
I just hope they keep scarcity marketing tactics and worst case scenario I will get some money back. Last batch was like what - early spring?

>>109824535
same founder

>>109824535
>respectable kilopos.
what's that mean? how are those set apart from hybrids/tribrids half or a fraction the cost?

>>109824591
i think it worked both sounds the same i dont know if the drivers are faulty because everthing sounds good
havent used them in a while but thanks anon

>>109824835
it's not the drivers, you will need to replace the filters with new ones soon enough.

>>109824801
We're not getting into the argument of "why it le more expensive" but some kilopos actually measure well as opposed some that look extremely colored.

>>109824801
I'm paying that to find out if it will give me some extra to that to that perceived psychoacoustic experience that $500 sets gave me over $300 sets (so probably well made crossover affecting separation and imaging).
I'm at this age when I can finally afford it without shitting myself about next months expenses and I can still properly hear so it's now or never.
Is it "worth it"? In material, work and r&d? No, I don't think so. Am I willing to accommodate to how market values it? With heavy heart but yes.

>>109824920
Godspeed m8. For your sake I hope you like it.

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why don't they just eq baka

>>109824868
who said anything about an argument? lol this is a place to discuss things, and all I'd like to know is if you think tuning alone is what constitutes a 'respectable kilopos', is all. don't be wound up so tight lol
>>109824920
just save up a bit more, do a bit more research. $500 isn't really an entire tier above $300 and sits in the "barely noticeable upgrade, if any at all/marginal differences" area

>>109824964
>if you think tuning alone is what constitutes a 'respectable kilopos'
Primarily, yeah. Second would be fit and comfort. And aesthetically it better not look gaudy at that price.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqiYh4vD3jw
grim

Don't post these obnoxious boring faggots here.

>>109825096
why so salty jeet?

>>109825102
Go do a math or draw some graph, faggot.

>>109825111
my brown friend, this general is all about graphs and audio math

whats the apparent issue with multiple drivers? the guide linked in op says they can be problematic i think

>>109825127
>Trusting OP "guides", ever, in any general
You need to lurk moar, newfriendo

>>109825072
hah. that's why you were being uptight. we stopped paying for tuning years ago, my friend, no argument needed.

>>109825087
keep posting them. theat anon doesn't bitch when sharur videos are posted on the regular so keep at it.

>>109825222
that anon*

>>109825226
general also subscribed to Precog

>>109825234
>Precog
he's cute, though

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Researching fake headpos from aliexpress. Is that mysterious hi-end brand ZMF?

>>109824099
It just got clogged with wax. Clean or replace filters.

>>109825087
they say the Pure is too muddy. I believe them. I want Nightfall so bad

>>109823181
>predicted JM-1 before JM-1 existed
>high quality, tight and textured bass
>natural and detailed midrange, not bloated by bass
>sparkly and airy treble, just a tad brighter than absolute neutral for fun
>wide soundstage
>clinical studio neutral tonality, perfect for music production, without being boring
>great for pretty much all genres due to how uncolored it is
>all of that for under a kilobuck
yes, it is perfect

>>109825459
>"studio neutral"
entire cope dismissed.

why is moondrop pudding so good, bros?

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>>109825480
yes, it is indeed studio neutral and it works well for music production

>>109825577
>studio neutral
not a real term. it might work well enough for you for music production, but not for anybody serious who otherwise relies on actual studio monitors (bookshelf speakers) to monitor their production/mixes.
IEMs should never be used as the main monitor in these situations.

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Changed my mind. I don't want Nightfall since it is pre-mogged by my EA500LM.

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Bump for thoughts.
>>109821995

>>109825625
If it still works it works, probably plug and socket got polished. Unless cable unplugs under force of his own weight it should be good and I wouldn't change anything. USBC is far easier to fuck than these sockets so I wouldn't recommend DSP cable but it's option. New 3.5 cable can be tighter but u never know how tolerances will be. I've had brand new headphones that had cables super loose, I bought cheapest and most dogshit sockets I could find on AliExpress and they are holding like crazy, I've used my old Shure cable for more than 10years and it still works ok. Sockets in my audio player are loose too, like some kind of friction fit instead of reassuring click at the end. It's just depends on your luck I guess

>>109825616
Pre-clogged by Moondrop Chu 2.

>>109825606
talk to musicians who have to make songs on the go
>no bookshelf speakers or even means to use them
>a lot of noise around, open-back headphones won't work either
it's either closed-backs or IEMs, neither are perfect for the task as they are, but still songs are being made on them

>>109825719
not even close. Chu 2 is the worst culprit and universally whined about for those issues. EA500LM isn't universally shat on for the same thing- one or two anecdotal incidents don't mean every single owner has the issue every single time. Nice bait tho.
>>109825769
>talk to musicians who have to make songs on the go.
they're using headphones, not IEMs.
>but still songs are being made on them.
stop using anecdotes as your hypotheses for general use cases. oversimplification just shines a light on your narrow-mindedness.

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>>109825718
It does look like it lists the golden colour at that spot and it's silver. That's the polishing effect? I'll keep using it until it gets unbearable. Or use the little tissue strip trick.

>>109825143
so getting iems with more than one driver wont be an issue if im using it with my iphone say?

>>109826065
No. It will work fine.

>>109826073
cool, thanks
im back to wanting to get the audio technica ATH-LS300
does anyone know where i could get a pair in the uk?

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>>109825127
With multiple drivers when your source has high output impedance(most mobos and phones) they will change the intended sound. And with multiple drivers there's usually bad drivers that will limit the EQ potential.
>>109826357
Nigga it literally doesn't play anything above 9kHz, imagine listening to music through a telephone.

>>109826613
thanks
thats a shame, pitchfork recommended them

>>109822009
Type c is way less durable than 3.5.

Are DAPs reallu just a (performative) meme?

>>109827561
No.

>>109827607
Cool, which one do you recommend besides the ones at the top of the thread?

>>109827614
Have you looked into the ones in OP?
There's many more listed in the shopping guide: https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/digital-audio-players-(dap)-portable-music-players-(pmp)/
I couldn't give you a personal rec because I use a dongle for PC and mobile, sorry.
Maybe list what features you're specifically needing, it could be easier to point you in the right direction, but the shopping guide has enough to check out on your own if you have the time

>>109827614
super review on yt. tl;dw hiby r1 or hiby m300 on the affordable end. m300 is android, familiar function to smartphone, streaming apps, etc. r1 is the more simple "pure" player for listening to music off a microsd, sometimes not the best ui ux but mostly minor niggles

>>109827614
besides those, some direct alternatives would be the fiio jm21 in lieu of m300 and shanling m1 plus in lieu of r1

>chuzo didn't return for chu 3

Okay, bought the idefender to see if it solved my issue and wow!
IT DID FUCK ALL!!!
so its my PC that's doing the audio popping and not my KA13 or my Letshour S08s
only happens when i'm playing vidya or playing music in the background while playing vidya.
can't for the life of me know what the issue is.

>>109827931
you didn't consider to test them with different devices before buying into audiophool nonsense?

>>109827967
it works on everything else BUT my PC
i went as far as resetting windows and that did nothing to fix the audio.
all the shit i bought works, it's the PC that's fucking me

>>109825616
Of course. No point in buying something that is 5% different in tuning with *worse* driver quality

>>109828846
>worse
how do you surmise that?

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chu 3 has been outdated !

>>109829114
>brass nozzle
DOA

>>109827931
my theory - ur graphics card and power supply make so much electrical noise when under gaming load that it creeps thru usb cable into your dongle and fucks with analog signal. Do you have any usb hubs or usb ports on top of ur case (as far from graphics card as possible), i would try that. I would also went to windows audio settings and mess around with them but honestly if everything works under light loads and glitches under heavy loads I think other than buying normal desktop DAC/AMP that has its own power supply and better shielding u can't do too much.

>>109829114
kek, u can't bitch about overear or speakers stuff when u fall into buying shit like that. They don't even had to retool anything. Just engraved few symbols on old chasis and call it new product

>>109829213
The faceplate is the most important part of the IEM.

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What do you guys think of the KBear Dumpling Plus? I prefer bullets.

>>109828846
bumping for an answer before your quip is considered a lie

thoughts on fox pos?

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>>109829507
>non detachable cables
depreciating asset. you could have bought a Chu 2 which is more comfortable for sleeping and won't die in a year.

>>109829693
>depreciating asset.
but they cost almost nothing when you use coins on aliexpress

>>109829687
the faceplates automatically make the pos worse quality.

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>>109829687
Endgame.

>>109829693
>chu 2
>won't die

>>109825087
>mogged by kasier
Jim is back.

>>109827931
You can try a stronger usb isolator based on adum3160. It could also be a driver issue. Try latencymon.

>>109828921
>>109829569
EA500LM is $90 and has a good driver (we're not considering tuning here). The margins are really small in that price bracket as-is. Chinacle is not going to give you the same quality driver for 10 more dollars.

>>109830299
>we're not considering the only thing driver does
huh

>>109829507
I don't like bullets, they keep sliding out of my ears.

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>>109829777
>clogging
clean it in alcohol and dry it out
>oxidizing brass
it's non-toxic. pick up your tissues and wipe it off.
>chipping paint
so what. it still works. you don't buy a reliable beater car for its looks.

i only buy pos for the shell or faceplate these days. i completely stopped caring about the sound since i can just eq to target anyway.

can i get a recommendation for a good pair of iems that has a play/pause button on the cable and that is between £100-£150 please

how are the moondrop chu iis regarded?

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>>109831639
what do you think of this one? they use real butterfly wings for the plates

>>109832257
I think any mic cable paired with play/pause. It's the one with previous/next thats different. I'd just shill simgot ew300 since it has so many different variant cable to pick with.

>>109830299
Yeah, I've had 2 2DDs overall and neither of them wowed me.

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i bought a cozoy d1 for like 18 kangarooland funbucks to get the cable and use it on my xue tao. it's p good

>>109807139
I was thinking about getting the Kefine Delci. Can anyone here vouch for them? Recently got into audio equipment, bought the 560s and absolutely love them. Wanted something portable that could give me an approximation of what I get with the 560s, wanted something warmer so I can also get a different experience. If not the Kefine Delci's, then what do you guys recommend on the warm side?

>>109833241
nice match

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>Kunten Pro
>nigga driver
we need to study this driver quality, frens

>>109834564
then lay out your big theory

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>>109832257
Stock cables with mics are usually bad and only available with the cheapest IEMs. I'm using a cable from "Audiophile Cables Elite Store"
https://aliexpress.com/store/1104029215
Pick the one that looks the best with your IEM.

>>109834564
>>109834708
europoor and cringe

>>109827919
Chuzo is a cool guy. He doesn't buy garbage. Why should he anyway, when he can EQ his superior Chu 2 to perfection, which he already did?

>>109832336
Better than Chu 3 and overall one of the best sounding $20 pos to this day. Has its problems, like brass nozzles patinating, filters clogging and paint chipping off, but unscrewable filters make the maintenance quite easy.

>>109834708
wy r u obsessed with fox?

>>109835399
The best and most cutest animal.

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>>109835427
Mogged by cat.

Budget
$50

Intended use
Music only, portable, straight out of an iPod Classic 7th gen (no dongle/amp currently)

Frequency response preference and music examples
Aiming for something flat/neutral — not too familiar with other tunings so open to suggestions, but leaning away from bass-heavy or V-shaped stuff. I listen mostly to sludge/post-metal, industrial, and prog, so I'd like good instrument separation for dense, layered mixes without things turning muddy.

Past gear and your thoughts on them
Moondrop Chu 2 — like the build, but hate that the metal shell oxidizes/tarnishes over time. Sound is decent I guess, but they're starting to feel dated to me — I feel like something is missing/lacking but I can't quite pinpoint what it is.

>>109836389
7Hz Salnotes Zero 2

>>109836389
COZOY D1

do u guys ever buy random shit from taobao stores?

>>109836389
tinhifi c0 or the ooopus x op.22

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didn't they just release the castor pro 2?

>>109836978
forgot to quote >>109811907

>>109836922
Can't order from it unfortunately, only from ali.

>>109836922
chinks asked me for phone number so no. But i was tempted by taobao DIY scene. Some of that is sold by dropshipers on Alixpress but for 2x price

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I got a ifi go bar kensei

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Anyone tried it?

>>109836978
>kz marketing

Want to consoom nightfall, but it's mixed reviews saying it's too dull. Want to consoom silicon but same criticism. Want to consoom pure white edition but reviews say it's uncomfortable.

I'm running out of consooming fuels

>>109838921
Custom q1 pro.

>>109838921
maybe order some eartips? the important thing with consooming is to keep things moving

Why should I upgrade from my GK Kunten?

>>109840041
because I said so

>>109840121
Well, what should I upgrade to?

>>109840205
kunten pro

>>109840205
EA500LM, obviously

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what is fox thinking ?

>>109841264
contemplating the pain of having his skull crushed by the clamping force of a thousand suns. hd-6xx ain't no joke.

>>109841264
>where's the bass?

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>>109841264

>>109841264
What does the fox say

Are the Sony WF-1000XM6 worth it?
I mainly care about ANC on public transport and gym (retards dropping plates)

Hi frens, I know this is the IEM thread but I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations or could point me to the right thread for decently priced (~ $250) speakers for listening to CDs in my living room. Kinda new to the audio space so even just some info on what's needed for getting a HiFi setup together would be helpful. Thanks

>>109841625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y0pkLOaOcQ

>>109841487
They have very good ANC once you achieve a proper fit so the passive sealing can aid it. Low-end and most high-pitched noise get completely eliminated, mid-range sounds such as speech will still pass through a bit.

>>109841264
does the fox take estrogen?

>>109841625
There's a thread on audiosciencereview with speaker recommendations by budget, you can also ask here >>109837117

>>109841264
>this shit is so ass

>>109840041
Mediocre shell.

>>109841910
>>109842617
thanks bros, checkin these out now

Moondrop Evo II. Is that a good purchase? Selling for 120 eurobucks at Amazon Spain.

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>>109843367
>$99USD to Euro
>pic related
FUCK no

Stop this shit. Put on some porta pros and go listen to good music

Is Brise Audio a good brand?

>>109838431
ok

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>>109841264
reminds me of how i used to dilate mine when i first transitioned