https://aboutsignal.com/news/signal-registration-without-a-phone-number-now-available/$2.99 for those that don't like burnerswhat do you think, /g/?
>>109831925Payment methods?What I like about this is it is an attempt to close one if the holes in signal chat, also I like that it is a 1 time payment. But without accepting monero, or some other anonymizing pipeline, im not seeing the full benefit.
>>109831925Sure took some time but fpbp, this will just lead to more problems if it isn't well done. Also why tf are they charging for it in the first place? No way they think 3 USD is keeping scammers and spammers away (which was their previous excuse)
>It’s currently not yet possible to buy a Signal Login account on a device that has no Play Services. Signal says they have plans to add more payment methods, but currently only offer Play Store in-app payments, which requires Play Services.Wow, it's fucking nothing as always.
>>109831959only Google Play "for now"hope they actually do crypto, esp. with how obvious that payment method is for a private IM>>109831959desu even a filter of $1 kills a shitton of scammers
Just use XMPP you fucking moron.
>fucked up quotes on first two posts>fucked up (You)s on replies to themI just don't know what went wrong
>>109832021no usersSignal at least has US glowies (that are too retarded even for Signal, thus leading to them leaking everything)
>>109832018>only Google Play "for now"Who is actually supposed to benefit from this? Do they still not understand what anonymity is?>desu even a filter of $1 kills a shitton of scammersI doubt it, they are running a business and investing a single dollar (or even three) per account can be worthwhile.>>109832040Also the german parliament, although the head of it got scammed on signal and blamed signal for it
>>109832003>>109831925kek glownigger shit
>>109831925>be me>use signal>on a burner>eventually get kicked out and asked for another sms shit was retarded, hope this nonsense accepts crypto on releasethe last thing I want is to REDEEEEEEM Google Play gift cards
>>109832040>no usersI use it, lots of people do including my friends. Quit with the larp.
>>109832071>Quit with the larp.how is it a larp when literally none of my friends are on Xmpp?At least Signal had groups I've been part of
>>109831925>don't require phone numbers>require relinquishing your payment information to google insteadwhat a joke
it's a good change but retards will forget their pin or whatever and lose all their messages.it would be nice if there was a way to migrate from a phone number to one of these numberless accounts for free.>>109832175the ultimate irony is google requires a phone number to open an account nowadays
>>109832205>lose all their messagesso?
>>109832240I agree, just saying normies are retards who will get mad about not having a way to recover. Presumably they'd have to pay again, unless they just issue a new key with proof of purchase.
>>109831925>has to register>AND HAS TO PAY FOR THATROFLMAO deltachads keep winning
>>109832018> Google PlayUh isnt google the primary backbone behind internet censorship? Evidence being covid19 coverup, deplatforming, gamergate, etc. How does a suspected CIA chat platform offloading their monitoring abilities to a larger CIA asset protect anyones anonymity? A second issue I have with signal, is no CLI version. Nothing I can script. This has narrower use cases, and doesnt help normies, so I understand their lack of interest in it, but Ive personally moved on from signal for this reason, along with the phone requirement. Having google payment only option, basically defeats all anonymity possibly gained by removing the need for a phone, but I guess it does increase access for those who genuinely just dont want to use a phone but dont care about increasing signals privacy model
>>109831925*solves your stupid issue anonymously*cardboard isn't THAT expensive, is it?
>>109832436i mean i'd even pay $10 if i could just buy a cardboard card with an activation code
>>109832332Why are you shilling this email-based slopware
>>109832436Oh surely you can just register a google play account just like that and definitely don't have to deanonymize you just for the privilege of paying signal
>>109832461ideally the activation code would work on Molly, avoiding the google play situation altogether
>>109832453Im seething at signal making its users pay for what delta chat users have for freealso it's not email-basedit uses the protocol godamnnn
>>109832488>it uses the protocol godamnnnyeahSMTP + POP3/IMAP
>>109832476Ideally they'd stop being cucks and just accept XMR so I don't have to jump through an insane amount of hoops and need to go to my next gas station just so I can use a fucking messenger>>109832488Ideal retardation, that's why you're a useful idiot
>>109831925>adding a fuckton of spammers just so pedos can have it easierwooooowwww, 10/10
>>109832502>Ideally they'd stop being cucks and just accept XMR so I don't have to jump through an insane amount of hoops and need to go to my next gas station just so I can use a fucking messengeryou know that's never going to happen. it would actually get them banned from multiple countries outright
>>109832517>pedospedos use discord because the state isn't actually interested in arresting criminals
>$2.99>for a low-traffic, low-moderation, unfederated TCP applicationIf LastPass didn't exist, this'd be the biggest scam in the history of software.
>>109832519>it would actually get them banned from multiple countries outrightAnon, they are already b& in censorship-heavy shitholes
>>109832502>you're a useful idiotok now tell me why it's so hard for them to not paywall basic features?
>>109832519>you know that's never going to happen. it would actually get them banned from multiple countries outrightThere's currently no legal basis for that. What is banned is solely CEXes trading XMR. You as a vendor can accept without legal repercussions.
>>109832551I'm not arguing pro-Signal, I'm arguing against the retarded delta chat. Use a real messenger instead of your vibecoded jeetware
>>109832488>signal making its users pay for what delta chat users have for freenot really since delta chat requires no registration at all>shows qr for normie to scan>scans it, downloads on app/play store>open app, type a nickname and it opens your chatthat's not like signal at all
>>109832552how does it even work? is it just considered barter? do you only pay taxes on it when paying out to fiat?
>>109831925SMS was used to ID people, pozzed signal say muh privacy now! So they added a while kyc pozzed banking system to track you further.Monero or fuck off
>>109831925>The feature will be rolled out first on Android and will come to iOS later.
>>109832591>vibecodedyeah since 2017>jeetware>mfw germans are jeets
>>109832597No, the laws are about money laundering, so they address financial institutes like banks, crypto brokerages etc. They do not talk about XMR being illegal to hold, sell or transact. >>109832624>yeah since 2017No updates since then? >>mfw germans are jeetsBy your logic session would be non-jeetware too since the oxen foundation was founded by a german who currently resides in Berlin. So there's no reason to use deltachat over the more popular, better tested, audited and all around better in every possible metric session or the actual game changer which is briar.
>>109831925>Revenue $29,413,537 in 2024>Expenses $38,019,696 in 2024>Meredith Whittaker, Director and President of Signal Messenger>made $743,531 in 2024>made $735,234 in 203>Moxie Marlinspike, cofounder>made $620,736 in 2021>made $585,812 in 2020Really makes you wonder about the "501c3 nonprofit" label.
>>109832683>sessionhttps://eylenburg.github.io/im_comparison.htmtry harder next time
>>109832722>(((Eylenburg)))However, evne your jewish source shows how disingenuous you are:>Fallback to email (the worst possible digital communication method)>Chat history automatically saved on server>No plausible deniability>No app password or biometrics. And no comparison with briar, which immediately btfo's your little email client
>>109832756I just found a mistake in talmudic teachings on IMs: You can get part of your message history back on session since the swarm keeps messages around for two weeks. So the one "benefit" delta chat had isn't even correct. Now fuck off you dirty little shill
>>109832756>>Fallback to email (the worst possible digital communication method)afaik that's incorrect as of 202x>>Chat history automatically saved on serverif you don't like their server then just use yoursnormies don't care>>No plausible deniabilityyeah I acknowledge it's not a dealbreaker to me, if it is for you then that's a point>>No app password or biometrics.true, but>No app password or biometrics yet.ftfy>And no comparison with briar, which immediately btfo's your little email clientfair but good luck getting your family and friends to sign up to briar, mine didn't protest when they understood all they had to do was scan the qr code>So the one "benefit" delta chat had isn't even correct.it is for normies, 2 weeks aren't enough for themanon you need to understand that so far delta chat has been the only im capable of convenience and thats required to be an alternative to whatsapp, but if youre live in burgerland then you won't understand anyways>Now fuck off you dirty little shillstop...
>>109832756We here at 4chan think Jews are based