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Nova Lake
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Do not trust the Intards or Nvidiot shills that brigade and spam these threads. Report and filter their posts.


Think for yourself. Only trust advice from all AMD PC owners.

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>le geforce & radeon duality
neither brands will run gta 6 on release lmao
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>>109839448
amd is going to run it perfectly on both windows and linux. novideo users are going to suffer.
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>>109839456
amd will run it as well as nvidia - at 0fps
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>>109839448
>wanting to play dei slop cuck simulator LGBTA 6
omegalol
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>>109839347
>Nvidiniggers
>instead of Njudea
what a retarded meme, was this made by Njudea fanboys to make us look bad?
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That's it! Too much inorganic Nvidia hate in here. I'm gonna make a donation to the Nvidia rescue fund on giftsendgo.
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>>109839477
>dei slop cuck simulator LGBTA 6 that runs on AMD zen 2 and RDNA 2
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>>109839690
its not amd's hardware, it's snoy's
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>>109839677
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what kind of ssd model is this? until I turned off fast startup, I swear that it had a different name like toshiba/kingston, cant remember but I dont think it was potentially cloned either bc I reinstalled windows and remember it not being called like this. its not my main drive, well technically it is but I dont install games on here. I'd like to know if this is a potentially bad ssd brand that can die prematurely, or should I not worry about it? like googling it and the first result is ssd for steam deck... am I cooked? and yes, the confusion is bc I bought a new pc like a month ago.
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>>109840087
It's this
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>>109840087
hard drives dont just identify as something else after you've cloned it
the pcie vendor and model id is hardcoded onto the ssd
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>>109840087
>I'd like to know if this is a potentially bad ssd brand that can die prematurely
the exact opposite
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Does anyone know why this keeps happening?
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>>109840087
Western Digital is one of the top brands for storage devices.
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>>109840238
should have bought a ps5
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>>109840249
I'm not gay though
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>>109840238
>he boughterized amd
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>>109840238
shitty drivers, shitty engine. Happens with current gen nvidia cards and unreal engine too. Ask an llm for the registry fix, maybe that will help you. That fixed it for me in 90% of the games.
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>>109840238
your driver is from last year and you are playing a game from this year
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>>109840270
>>109840269
>>109840249
you guys from /v/?????
same underaged energy
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>>109840238
it's because you need therapy
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>>109840274
no, you are just paranoid
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>>109840271
>inb4 some fag is like "BF6 IS FROM 2025?!?!?!$??}|!$r"@"r!@"
its a live service title it gets constant engine updates like fortnite and wuwa.
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>>109840274
95% of people itt are gaymurs, hence the incessant novideo shilling. The rest of us are more moderate, surely.
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>>109840282
then why post irrelevant shit? its not even correct.
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>>109840274
>unserious post gets unserious replies
why are you acting surprised
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>>109840238
I think it's a known game bug. I remember reading about this on r*ddit before.
So an sfc /scannow. And I think I had to disable the ransomware protection in Windows Security.
If that doesn't work you can probably check r*ddit yourself.
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>>109840238
Microslop broke HAGS on AMD/Nvidia disable it.
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>he boughtenered shittyfield 6
Serves you right.
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>>109840313
its not the games fault its windows fault.
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>>109840293
what? I did post a potentially helpful fix. Preventing windows from shutting the game down because the gpu went into sleep mode.
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>>109840324
>>109840321
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Newfag here, first time I've ever built a PC.
I have Lancool 216 case, 9800X3D and RX 9070 XT. The temps seem fine, didn't see anything extreme – but the fans noise was a bit too much for me when playing with open-back headphones.
Would adding more fans (x2 140mm at the bottom and x2 140mm at the top) and lowering the RPM for everything achieve a quieter PC?
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>>109840403
>9070XT
Oof.
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>>109840403
sure but have you tried tweaking the fans curves first
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>>109840238
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1hdjxba/guide_how_to_resolve_windows_update_installing/
windows is currently bugged for some users and it's trying over and over to replace the amd driver with basic video adapter driver. that's why your computer and apps keep crashing
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>>109840451
Why doesn't AMD just make better windows drivers?
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>>109840463
writing good drivers isn't that easy, pal
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>>109840403
if it's loud when the pc is idle, you have a heat issue somewhere. If it's loud under load, you can undervolt you stuff and adjust your fan curves. Sometimes cheap fans that come with stuff are the culprits. Like I had to quiet down my ssd fan on the mainboard by only having it turn on when it was truly needed.
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>>109840403
What does your fan curve look like. Tweak it so your fans aren't at full blast at 30C.
I have a pretty aggressive fan curve on mine just because I use IEMs and I basically can't hear anything else since it has better noise canceling than anything I've tried.
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>>109840403
Not really much you can do for a 9070 XT.
For some reason AMD makes it use more power than a fucking 5080, despite the fact it's a weaker card with less hardware.

More power = More heat, and AMD's thermal solution isn't as elegant either. AMD's PCB design is more primitive and uses a larger board which is less dense and so has less access to blow-through cooling, so you end up with a limit on how effectively you can cool it.
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when will HDDs get cheap again?
I want a cheap HDD.
give me a cheap HDD.
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>>109840531
prices will NEVER go back to "normal"
only up, up, up
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>>109840531
never ever
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>https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-reportedly-replacing-core-i5-14600k-with-8p8e-raptor-lake-next-cpu
i5's will be upgraded from 6 to 8 performance cores. Fucking finally!
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>>109840541
>>109840548
what do they even do with all this storage? don't tell me they actually save all that slop people generate.
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I'm having a wonderful day outside as you can see
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>>109840574
probably sea pea
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>>109840576
bring sun screen with yourself, it's pretty sunny outside today
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>>109840573
For what purpose?
i5s are designed for like office PCs and shit.
The fuck they need 8 cores for?
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>>109840531
Look at your local electronics recycler for used ones.
Also might want to check SAS drives. A lot of companies are using SAS drives, not SATA anymore. So there are a lot more SAS drives compared to SATA drives.
Downside is that your regular shitbox can't run it, but getting the PCIe HBA that can connect to it is cheap enough.
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>>109840613
Pentium - office machine
i3 - budget gaming
i5 - gaming / light productivity
i7 - gaming / productivity
i9 - full retard
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>>109840531
GPUs never got cheap again and neither will storage or RAM. They are pushing to normalise cloud computing.
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what the fuck is a sas?
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>>109840639
It means eagle in Hungarian.
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>>109840633
Lmao, i5 is not gaming.
It's always been a poorfag cope for those that can't afford a gaming PC and have to make do with a "High spec" office CPU.
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>>109840651
kosz
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Nvidia xisters will jensen ever fix the fucking drivers. Almost1 year since BF6 came out I still can't play more than one hour before this happens and my clitty explodes. Meanwhile Radeon users are enjoying the game uninterrupted
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>>109840666
np, Satan
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>>109840613
K CPUs have never been for office use
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>>109840667
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>>109840667
maybe stop pulling out your video card during gameplay???
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>driver issues
Should have taken the ps5 pill desu
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>>109840692
Take your 500 Yen, Satoshi, and get the hell out of here.
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>>109840758
PlayStation is a Californian company now, Japan could not care less about them anymore
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>>109840664
>>109840613
In what world is an i5 relagated to office machines? Standard advice for years was just buy an i5 if you want to game.
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>4K: RX 9070 XT
are you sure?
not that we have an option anymore
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>>109840861
It's an AMD shill thread where he gives intentionally bad advice so people make the same mistakes he did.
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IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING.
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>>109840861
>>109840871
I have a 5070 and it's more than enough to play good games at 4K with 8X MSAA + HDR
Disclaimer: I mostly play old games
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I'm skipping Rubin because im tired of nvidia naming their architectures after black and women "Scientists". We haven't had a white man since Ampere.

We're so back with Feynman tho. Saving my shekels til then...
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>>109840906
same. i'm just waiting for a good game to launch. only upgraded my computer because of elden ring and the new monitor i got.
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>>109840906
AMD doesn't have DLSS.
They have to use FSR, which looks like this.

So it's not really an option for them unless you like smearing and blurring.
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>>109840991
fucking shit renderer
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Z990 boards are dropping
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Just turned on DLSS on my 5070 for the first time and THIS FLICKERY SHIT IS WHAT I PAID FOR?! FSR 4 looks so much better.
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>>109841030
omg but what comes after? Z1000?
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>>109841039
ask amd that
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>>109840439
>>109840528
I see. The prices for Nvidia are ridiculous where I live, so I'll just live with the choice I've made.
>>109840441
>>109840487
>>109840522
It's SOMEWHAT loud only under the load (I'm just kinda sensitive to noise, I guess.).
Yeah, I guess, starting from tweaking the fans curve sounds reasonable. I've tried opening MSI Center to quickly check the fans curves I've dabbled with without opening BIOS, but this POS bloatware refuses to work. I'll get to it later...
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I hope Nova Lake is good.
AMD hasn't done shit for years at this point.
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>>109840528
>>For some reason AMD makes it use more power than a fucking 5080, despite the fact it's a weaker card with less hardware.
amd uses terrible low grade silicon they always have
that's why they had to resort to chiplets in the first place
but that shit doesn't help GPUs as much as CPUs
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>>109841075
They use the manufacturer as everyone else TSMC and RDNA 4 in fact uses a higher tier slightly better node than Blackwell retard
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>>109841052
it's so funny that in just 10 years we've completely flipped the script
amd is basically where intel was with Skylake and intel is basically where amd was with Shitdozer.
Now we're doing the same thing and hoping the underdog breaks out so we can start getting better cpu's again...

Time is a flat circle...
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>>109841037
no refunds
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>>109841097
yeah that's why they have to pump it with 350w for worse perf you fucking donkey

they use a newer node and get worse perf guess what that's because their silicon is fucking trash retard
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>>109841098
amd cpus actually give more frames per release
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>>109841116
so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore
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>>109841128
still working as a hospital janitor? I hear trump is going to move forward with annexing canada and send all the jeets home, what's your backup plan?
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This shit has me on the verge of tears can anyone help? My 5070 ti msi gaming trio does this immediately after I install the driver. Is this shit DOA from the factory or is it the vibe coded geforce drivers? I tried launching roblox just for a test and it crashed after 15 seconds with dxgi hung error.
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>>109841142
Bro can't even get a fucking Nvidia GPU working, Trump is gonna send him to the fucking incinerator.

Maybe his ash will become a Rubin card.
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>>109841162
ANON YOU FUCKING RETARD YOU BORKED YOUR GPU, ITS FUCKING DEAD
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Brand new pc and everything boots fine into windows and I get display with the placeholder microsoft driver. But the second I install any nvidia driver for my 5070 ti doesn't matter what version this is what fucking happens and I have to switch to the igpu to DDU and make this shit stop. Am I cooked? What can I do?
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>>109841180
it's a poojeet spammer that's been reposting the same bait for years.
the post above me is also him
just ignore it
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>>109841216
>>109841162
>>109841128
>>109841037
>>109840881
>>109840667
>>109840238
>same spam from pcbg from fucking months ago
what an absolute shit show
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>>109841229
im guessing you're also samfagging yourself troonjeet, or you're too retarded to not give him (You)'s. Either way eat shit
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>>109841229
Crazy to think how different this place could have been if that Indian-Canadian immigrant family had just got their kid a 5070Ti rather than a 9070XT.
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>>109841253
The nigger faggot is seething because he missed his last chance to buy an affordable NVIDIA card.
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>>109841219
Wait seriously? i mean dunno i just came here to see if my setup is still fine (came here a few times before, asking if my shitty 12400F and 3060TI ddr4 32giggies is still okay or i should UPGRADE NOW ITS FUCKING OVER)
jeets really are ruining everything, over on /aceg/ there's a retard tweaking out about PW, turns out he's a indian scammer with vibecoded ai-gen scam games
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>>109841273
you misspelled "nvidia affordable"!
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grim
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>>109841045
Just get IEMs instead of headphones. Much better noise canceling.
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>>109841392
enjoy your semi regular ear infections
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>>109841404
even open backs can give you ear infections if you aren't smart about waiting to fully dry after getting out of the shower. i learned the hard way.

It wouldn't have been as bad as it was if i didn't dismiss it as wax for almost 2 weeks and then let it bloom into a double infection. Never again...
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>>109841392
Nah those things are absolute chink trash. Hundred upon hundred of confusing models and brands, completely mild difference you wouldn't notice 99,9% of the time. These little shits constantly break and as >>109841404 pointed out, you will have ear infection. I didn't even know ear infection were a thing before I used IEM. just a month in I got an ear infection and trust me that's an awful experience.
I can somewhat understand the OLED meme but IEMs hell nah.
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>>109841428
Why are you posting this alongside child porn?
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>>109841428
>even open backs can give you ear infections
I've used earbuds my whole life, tried IEMs thanks to chink shills and got an infection within a month. And it barely sounded better despite costing 50 times apple earbuds.
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>>109841445
>konata
>child
>clothed image
>porn
>drawing
>child porn
triple newfag combo holy shit
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>>109841428
Kill yourself avatarfag.
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>>109841445
you know how the IEM cycle work? Companies will release a new pair, print some anime girl on the box and those tards will gobble them up acting like they are the best thing ever till a newer pair releases a month later that's so much better than the previous ones
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>>109841518
Why is nobody telling the avatarfag to kill himself? There was also an Astolfo avatarfag. Why is everybody tolerating them?
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>>109841518
You forgot the part where companies will pay techtubers to shill them all over youtube and pretend there's any noticeable difference in real world usage
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>>109841528
not your personal army, zoomnigg
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>>109841556
>personal army
Do you actually think it's about that? You must be as stupid as the Astolfo and Izumi poster combined
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>Konata fag is back
Your waifu is shit just like the jeetforce gpus you shill.
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>>109841608
anything you say against nvidia is comically stupid since you literally THIRST for one every single day but you're permanently priced out by being a brokie street shitting wagon wheel jeet.
it's not even worth posting konata to reply to you.
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>>109841623
literally us
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>>109841623
me on the left
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https://www.techpowerup.com/352788/amd-plans-10-price-hike-across-gpus-chipsets-and-possibly-cpus

AMD gets greedy and opts for a 10% price hike across everything.

Hope you like spending $1000 for a 9070 XT.
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>>109841608
>jeetforce
keek
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>>109841779
that's even more ironic coming from an actual west-poisoning jeet
>>109841772
greed? or maybe just economic realities?
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Is SFF a phase?
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>>109841788
No, SFF is a mindset. The will to defy established social norms and paying a premium for pc parts.
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>>109841786
Their revenue is up 50% over last year. They reported 11 billion profit for last quarter.

Yes, greed.
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>>109841809
so they should sell at a loss or reduced because their revenue is up? what? have you ever run a company
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>>109841811
reduced margins*
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>>109841811
>>109841786
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>>109841822
companies aren't good or evil, they're profit machines. im not defending at all, just explaining.
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>>109840639
it means hotplug storage hdd in /g/ anon
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>>109841837
>>109841809
>>109841822
TSMC sets the prices not AMD.
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complaining about price hikes in a bubble is like complaining about bears shitting in woods
they don't care, they're just doing what they were designed to do. stop being emotionally hurt by it.
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>It's okay when my company hikes their prices.
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>>109841853
>it's ok when a misquito bites me
no but it's what they do
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>>109841788

anon sff often have dc connector for external power switched power source and sff always in phase even power source phase might vary
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>Nvidia prices go up (Though MSRP has stayed the same and it's board partners that have raised prices)
>screaming. shiitting of pants. Complaining about greed. Whining about technology.
>AMD rises prices directly and as a direct effect on MSRP
>Erm, well, that's just what companies do.
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7900XTX is such a cool GPU.
You have a monster GCD in the center fed by not one not two not three but SIX MCDs.
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>>109841884
sometimes companies raise prices
and sometimes they stay the same
yes it's what they do
there is literally no emotion behind it, it's all decisions made based on financials and projections and those vary for every company
grow up
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>>109841886
Shame the performance was so bad.
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>>109841898
*ahem*
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>>109841235
>or you're too retarded to not give him (You)'s. Either way eat shit
oh no Yous if I didnt he would surely stop spamming this shit, oh wait

>>109841465
truth was spoken that day
I don't normally shill apple products but earpods just work and don't fall out of ears like IEM tips constantly
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>>109841886
>monster Graphics Compact Die
cool technology
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I have come to realize that 1000 nits is actually not that bright outside of a dark room
Unless of course it isn't actually 1000 nits
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Why is nicotroon so retarded?
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>>109841963
genetics
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>>109841917
mine has 1400nits. Literally feels like staring into the sun.
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can't wait for WuWa to get HDR
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>>109839347
as I'm not gonna get fucked by these gpu prices I'm just gonna repaste my 3070, I guess using the same thermal paste that I used for my build would suffice right? (also gotta get them proper thickness thermal pads)
worth buying special thermal paste for this? I'm using a tube of artic x4 I think, that shit is like 10 years old but 3-4 years ago when I build this rig it was ok, I mean still does.
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>>109841973
Monitor?
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>>109841992
do you really want to repaste a card when there is nothing wrong with it?
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>>109841990
Is this Hoyoverse porn?
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>>109842043
KTC M27T6 mini LED, the /pcbg/ special
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>>109842050
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>>109842058
Yeah, that nigga bright as fuck.
Getting flashedbanged in STALKER 2 actually hurt me.
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>>109842062
You should kill yourself right now. Before you waste one more oxygen molecule.
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>>109841219
What I don't get is nicotroon actually managed to bake the thread. He shoved all his flagrant fanboy flamewar-inciting bullshit in the OP. He "won". Why does he still feel the need to spam his own thread with his own copypasted garbage as if there were an explicitly intel-nvidia focused OP?
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>>109842047
well, looks easy enough and shit gets toasty at max load
65-67C (15C delta+ on hotspot) with an ambient temp of 26C, and this is undervolted too.
well it was always toasty desu

I just want it to last me until the 6k series if there is one kek
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>>109842153
sounds healthy. I wouldn't touch it.
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>>109841992
buy ptm 7950 and you'll never need to repaste again, also buy a bunch of good quality thermal pads with 1, 1.5, 2mm and replace them all and never open the card again
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>>109842195
>ptm
the jew man just deboonked it...... again?
https://youtu.be/b7VGwzZup3I
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>>109842394
>chubby chaser
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>>109841917
>>109841973
You guys are crazy, going over 150 feels like torture already...
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>>109839599
I do not want to be associated with dan bilzerian
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>>109838244
Yeah RenoDX HDR is different thing to the new DLSS5 injectors.
https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods
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>>109842092
The retard is the only one participating in this meaningless "race".
Everyone else has been letting /pcbg/ threads drop down towards page 9 or 10 before posting new ones.
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>>109841807
It's fine if you pick the right parts and optimize settings for higher power efficiency.
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>>109842796
>The retard
It's me!!! I'M HERE!!!!
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lets go QD OLED
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>>109843216
I can't believe my incredible fortune to be an owner of a wled. cheap as dirt, but genuinely great sidekick displays.
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got my 9070XT for 700 euro last year. now it's >1200. what the actual fuck. did I actually investment?
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>>109843390
Not really.
Nobody wants to buy a used 9070 XT.
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>>109840403
Replace all your fans with bequiet pwm(important) fans and adjust the fan curve on your gpu.
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>>109843441
You have to sign into ebay to see "sold" listings now.

But I believe you are a liar.
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>>109839347
How much VRAM will the 6090 get? HOW MUCH???
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>>109843516
if you have to ask you cannot afford it
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>>109841128
> he is using an LG display
You get what you deserve.
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>>109843507
Many people want to sell a 9070XT so they can upgrade to a 5070, TI or 5080.
But, very few people want to be the one buying them.
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>>109843533
what are you on about lol, some games run almost as fast as 5080 on 9070XT
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>>109843559
Very funny, but no.
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>>109843533
It's not low, you're lying. I would buy them if they were cheap. That's a stupid lie, anyone can load ebay and see the buy it now prices.
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>>109843566
9070XT pisses on almost all 5070 Ti 3DMark scores, not even joking you brainlet. And it's not far from 5080. You're delusional. Check Timespy Extreme, Steel Nomad...
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>>109843590
5080 Solar Bay Extreme Average score: 32976
9070 XT Solar Bay Extreme Average score: 20681

So, 5080 is about 37% more powerful in 3DMark's latest and most accurate benchmark.
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It's not low. There are no bargains, don't lie.
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>>109843622
>Spending $700 on a used 9070 XT in a downclocked poverty spec.

Yeah, anyone buying that is a retard.
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>>109843617
>3DMark Solar Bay is a ray tracing benchmark for test for devices running iOS, Android and Windows 10 and 11
>Ray tracing benchmark for lightweight and mobile devices.
you intellectual prostitute. notice how you failed to mention Timespy Extreme and Steel Vulkan which are the reference benchmarks for high performance GPUs.
your GPU won at a fucking mobile phone benchmark top kek
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>>109843632 me
>Steel Vulkan
*Nomad, I'm an idiot
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>>109843617
The 5080 is obviously more powerful, but it costs a huge amount more. but saying it's that much better, it's a case by case basis.

I don't have a 9070, I have a 6950xt. It's very fast at some things, and beats the 5080, but again, not if you're a kid and use like the ai stuff or whatever. But I am an adult, and I put childish ways behind me. I walked like a child, I reasoned like a child. But I became a man.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDQCOLsgYOo
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>>109843640
>The 5080 is obviously more powerful
not by more. imagine paying 1600 EUR for a 5080 only for it to be trailed by a 800 EUR 9070XT lol. and still 16GB.
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>>109843628
These prices are better than the buy it now options, this is an auction. There are very few at auction.

What that means is that it's a seller's market, and people aren't selling them, very few auction listings.
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>>109843650
nvidia's vram crippling has been positively criminal. I mean it literally. It's an injury to humanity.
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>>109843640
Not any more. A 5080 has an MSRP of $999, you can get them cheaper than 9070 XTs now.
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>>109843632
>Erm, the benchmark doesn't count because it doesn't arbitrarily disable half the features on the card.

Games aren't going to stop using raytracing.
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Cheapest 9070XT in my country.
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>>109843663
>you can get them cheaper than 9070 XTs now.
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>>109843669
it is a literal benchmark for mobile phones you brainlet.
Timespy Extreme and Steel Nomad are the de facto tests for modern GPUs.
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I’m trying to pick a motherboard to most optimally pack a shitload of dual slot GPUs into a box with at least one M.2 NVMe SSD (but ideally multiple so that they can be striped).

Pic related is the previously best maximized approach, involving a Dell T7910

However, the Dell T7910 previous approach does not fit/support any M.2 NVMe SSDs, and involved just a Crucial MX500 — this reaches 500MB/s, although an M.2 NVMe should be able to hit 15,000 MB/s, and this is definitely the current bottleneck.

One alternative that I’m considering is an MSI MEG X570, but I don’t really know what I’m doing.
I’m also beginning to consider ancient refurbished server rack solutions.
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>>109843672
and it's a gigashit one
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>>109843697
>Raytracing benchmark
>For phones.

Oh man... You saw IOS, Android devices and thought they were talking about phones, didn't you?
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remember that coolermaster said they were going to sell an addon for GPUs that adds a blower fan to them? when is that going on sale? I'll see if I can find a picture from ces
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this thing, it's more to separate gpu heat from cpu I guess
https://videocardz.com/newz/cooler-master-develoed-a-blower-fan-attachment-for-all-modern-gpus-lowers-temps-by-up-to-6c
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>>109843720
Look at X11 motherboards maybe? X12 and X13 are a bit more expensive but newer. X14 isn't worth the price usually.
X11DAC can fit 3 dual slot GPUs while being in a case.
If you want the most then you might want to look at PCIe risers instead and get a mining rig case instead.
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she should give me her socks
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>>109843828
i can give you mine but i already used them.
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>>109843663
>MSRP
>>109843681
Why is he just lying though? I don't understand indian humor.
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>>109843813
Looks like $800?
I’ll try to find a deal on ebay, but I guess that’s honestly the best solution that I’ve seen so far. Thanks!
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7900XTX is now back up to MSRP
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>>109843934
well, the asian memory cartel collaborated - stupidly - to suppress prices. They miscalculated, they assumed by now there would be a bust part of the cycle. Instead, they opened the door to innovation.
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>>109843934
Why would I want a worse 3090
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>>109843952
over 1200 gtexels of texture fillrate
over 600 gpixels pixel fillrate
over 1tb of memory bandwidth
24576mb of vram
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>>109843628
9070xts are overtuned and should be run power limited and undervolted anyway
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so done with these fucking melting issues on my 5090. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones when my cable melted and whole pc caught on fire, I have to build a whole new pc. im suing nvidia and building an all amd pc with the settlement money fuck it idc anymore. ignore the pink nails in pic related its cuz im a giant cock hungry faggot that takes it up my pooper
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>>109843454
Or undergo a program of desensitization. It's never going to get you all the way, but it can help more, and its useful elsewhere.

Example strategies, play various sounds on a bt speaker or stereo or whatever, like "ambient sounds", "fan sound (meaning like an oscillating fan)", "baby crying (fake baby)" etc.
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>>109844021
Very interesting. do we even know what exactly is getting hot? Is it just one pin, is it where? ??? at the point of contact? Or in the cable bend? or (who has checked) is it in the female card connector or immdiately contacting parts, but the heat is dumping into the male
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(yes I know he's trolling, but the topic is interesting)
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>>109843516
There wont be any 60 series until 2030
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>>109839347
>Amd cant do this
Worthless.
Reminder /pcbg/ is NOT a PC GAMING BUILDING GENERAL
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>>109840574
Saving all the unused .SAFETENSORS models. Each one of time is AAA game sized nowadays
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>>109839347
I keep seeing people crying blood on /gif/ and /g/catalog and /v/ for choosing AMD cards.

Nvidia is retardly expensive, i know. But there are no other choice at the moment. Either wait until the price go down or work hard to buy Nvidia GPU
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I've given up on trying to convince poors that no, their 2014 LCD is not just as good as a 2026 OLED. You not thinking it's worth the money is not the same as it having better picture quality, this isn't disputable. I swear they must be actively shielding their eyes every time they enter a store that sells TVs so they remain ignorant of what modern screens look like so they can keep telling themselves what they have is fine.
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>>109841045
Pick cheaper CPU and buy 5060ti instead. If you can afford it, buy a 5070ti used.
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zotac 5070ti or XFX 9070xt?
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>build a pc last year
>it's actually fun
>want to do it more
>prices immediately skyrocket and now it's too expensive
Why couldn't I have been born in 1980. Why couldn't I have picked up this hobby back when anyone could afford to do it.
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>>109844250
5070Ti easily.
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Is this deal a ripoff?
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007509/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d,-msi-b850-gaming-pro-wifi6e-am5,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle
My R5/3070 is still kicking but I called the prices of everything going full crazy over the 2020s and it isn't getting better.
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>>109844250
5070ti. Can do basically everything.
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>>109844262
I'm so incredibly lucky I didn't believe that chart. The 6950xt is actually above a lot of those nvidia eyesores, in raw raster. Putting the 9070xt above the 7900xtx is pretty lulz. It's because they play with kid's settings.

Real men don't use antialiasing, or any other fake pixel junk. I'm a real man.
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>>109844250
XTX is good. idk about zotac
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>>109844275
Cute cope.
Maybe you should go leave a comment on Tom's Hardware forum about it.
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>>109844275
Did you seriously use your PC solely for gaming ?
What a waste. Buy a console instead.
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>>109844262
>>109844274
not sure what brands to go for, cause all I know is that gigabytes thermal gel shit fucks with the card
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>>109844285
>Cute cope.
It's not. I am a man. I put childish ways behind me (fake pixels are an abomination fit for hellfire)
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>>109844292
>gaming
I never said "gaming". I use it for simulation and for the interrogations of life, the qualia of living.
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>>109844343
Just pick anything thats cheaper and not the OC version. If its happen to be OC version, just underclock it
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>>109844361
But AMD cards are dog shit for productivity and compute.
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>>109844365
underclock as opposed to undervolt? QRD on this
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>>109844370
7900xtx might give the gtx780 a run for its money
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>>109844380
its the same thing
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>>109844380
For AMD cards, they're often so cheap and use shoddy components, so you don't want to send as much voltage going through them or they can damage themselves. They usually run better as a consequence.
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>>109844275
You're a blind man
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>>109844394
I think my only issue with AMD at the moment is their software not applying saved settings on startup 50% of the time. meanwhile msi afterburner has no issues in my experience
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I use an AMD card just to spite Nvidia and for no other reason.
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>>109844370
Nobody does that snailcat stuff.
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>>109844419
I do it because their cards are garbage.
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>>109844419
>>109844430
Explain to me why Nvidia bad.
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>>109844429
You will get it once you get a job
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Gonna buy a 7090 xt during the upcoming prime day with my employee discount
I would buy it now if it were delivered this weekend but it said 2 weeks baka
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>>109844275
>he didn't turn ray tracing to max on games where it barely makes a difference
watch out, jensen has an AI army to hound people like you
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>>109844429
>Blender
>Snailcat
What?
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>>109844446
Dont listen to troll OP post anon. You WILL regret choosing AMD card
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>>109844455
Jensen needs to be luigied by i still prefer Nvidia over AMD
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>>109844446
amd is only an option if you're using linux
nvidia is superior otherwise
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pretty funny that people are buying 5060Ti 8GB for $500
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>>109844444
:^)

you saying I'll get a job in 3D?
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>>109844477
The OP needs to restore the line that 8Gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
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>>109844442
They're all bad, but, as the top dog, they're in a position to treat everyone extra shitty. Would the others do the same in that position? Probably, but they're not in that position.
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>>109844481
If you here in /pcbg/ i assume you have a job using a PC
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>>109844446
Cool!

>>109844471
I like my AMD card. The main thing is that a lot of stuff has changed. Vulkan is great now, for gobs of stuff, for llms, for games, for diffusion!
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>>109844488
I dont give a shit about that. Is Nvidia CARD is BAD ?
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>>109844489
Some of us just deserve nice things, and for this cause the heavens open their bounty unto us, the worthy ones.
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>>109844489
>If you here
>ESL this late
Grim.
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>>109844492
Just buy an Xbox if you want gaming so bad. AMD cant do shit other than gaming. Even emulation is bad on AMD card.
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>>109844495
yes. The unfortunate case is yes, yes they are bad. If you must get an nvidia, get an __90 card.
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>>109844495
Poorfags have been pretty BTFO by the widening gap between Nvidia and AMD, and now it's a whole "Nvidia is evil and greedy, and if you support them you're evil" thing.
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>>109844503
emulation is a snailcat thing.

Just vibecode already. I vibecode all my "games", it's not going to stop!
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>>109844475
>>109844471
can you tell me a nvidia card that is around $600 with the same performance?
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>>109844487
yeah, party like it's 2021
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>>109844511
Did you seriously benchmark your GPU with video games only ?
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>>109844511
Used 3080.
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>>109844504
Nah im good with my 5070ti. I dont play video games and i dont care about muh RTX and DLSS5
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>>109844515
Don't do much on the pc besides web browse and occasional games so yeah
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>>109844507
>widening gap
The gap isn't widening. It's narrowing, but that's not obvious, because the memory chip fiasco has scrapped at least 3 releases.

Basically, everyone needs to calm down, we aren't capsized, and nvidia won't remain relevant for long for inference ***ON THE DESKTOP***.

Quasar should release soon, and we'll be able to tell if it can (chiplet design) scale to arbitrary levels.
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>>109844153
>>109844179
>Nvidia is the best at generating CP
Kill and hang all nvidipedophiles
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>>109844525
Well i give up. You have been severely warned though. I prefer you pick 5070ti over AMD equivalent but if you keep persisting on AMD, thats on you. Dont come crying on /g/ when you see a good AIslop and you want to do the same with your AMD card.
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>>109839347
Is it possible to build a PC with enough power to run AI that can turn me into a woman?
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>>109844536
Kill yourself pedo
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>>109844536
>5070ti almost double the price
yeah naw. ai slop is cringe
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>>109844540
Thats a compliment
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>>109844529
Lmao.
AMD can't even path trace, what the fuck are you talking about?
There's games out there right now that AMD users simply cannot even use the features of.

In performance AMD is like a generation or two behind when it comes to just basic-bitch raytracing.
And FSR is an absolute joke compared to DLSS.

AMD cards are great for older games, but I don't believe there's actually people dropping $1K on a GPU that can't max out games that came out a year ago.
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>>109844544
Try used market
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>>109844537
do you have any volume constraints? you're going to need a lot of blackwells in order to run an AI that can create blueprints for brain cyberization systems that will then allow you to jack into people's brains and alter their perception of you
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>>109844549
ShartForce can't even put out display let alone run games so AMD is infinitely faster
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I have a desktop with a 9700xt and another one with a 5070ti.
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>>109844549
to be fair, top end nvidia can path trace at 60fps on 1080p
it's DOA for the next 5 years
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>>109844561
idort
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I dont care about muh graphics since 2018. They all look the same for me
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>>109844564
Just use DLSS?
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>>109844573
>just add noise on top of noise and then use neural denoiser to make it look good again
now it's 30fps
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Next thread
>>109844584
>>109844584
>>109844584
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>>109844587
You can't, just pretend you're only paying for the RAM.
At some point I'll book a transatlantic flight and hit up a microcenter for one of those ridiculous deals.
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>>109844586
That might be the AMD experience, but DLSS is actually pretty good.
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>>109844608
30 fps is a great console experience, thanks Jensen
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>>109844611
If you're having issues with your PC, let us know anon, it sounds like something is wrong.
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>>109844537
Yes you'll want to build a pc with a TransForce graphics card like pic related to do it
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>>109844520
>

bart simpson says "im good with my 5070ti"

homer simpson says "so far"

bart simpson is wearing an nvidia t-shirt
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>>109844549
>path trace
nvidia (and amd) path tracing are fake. Thy don't converge, and so they have to denoise. Which means smear.

ie fake pixels - junk.

I'm not some kid, I want real stuff, not dumb kid stuff.
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>>109844670
>Sour grapes.
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>>109844681
>I like fake pixels

ooo - k
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>>109844689
So, are you gonna stop buying AMD when they start doing it or...
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>>109844692
It's legal to buy nvidia, I'm not going to call the police, but you're not going to heaven.
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>Consider buying Arctic P14 Pros (140mm fans)
>Decide to sleep on it, I didn't have my neetbux anyway
>Wake up today and go browse again, decide to "just in case" measure my fans
>...for like 10 years I've thought my current case fans are 140mm, they're not, they're 120mm
>Check some more reviews, like half the Arctic Pros actually have some of the old noise etc problems
>One of my stores has HAVN H12's on sale, 3 pack for 20€
Worth the weight
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>>109844711
One of the best thing about having a large house, I don't have to worry about noise and I just shove all my PCs and noisy servers in the basement.
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>>109844716
It wasn't just the noise, it was rattle and shit, as in poor build quality. Doubt they cool right either if they do that.
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>Get good fans.
>Computer is cool.
>By efficiently pumping out hot air.
>Directly at my balls.
>3D Print a duct to redirect it to the other side of the room.

Cool, I guess.
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>>109844726
I've been using arctic fans on most of my builds they're fans. As long as they push air it works.
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>>109844736
Well I'm now getting basically Noctua tier fans with the HAVNs for the price of Arctics so lol.
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>>109844762
Sure, if you can find a deal for "better" fans, then go ahead.
I can always count on arctic fans since they're so cheap that I can get a 6 pack 120mm fans for $12. Which comes out to like $2 per fan.
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>>109844716
Get a larger house anon, basements are for keeping wine bottles. Having a server rack in a naturally lit environment with large windows and a great view is worth it. You'll feel like visiting more often, it will give you more opportunities and desire to enhance your setup.
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>>109844805
Nah, I hate cable management. My server rack is a fucking mess and it's not even that big. I only got 24U rack. I want to hide everything and never look at it unless I have to.
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If you want a computer, buy a big house.

yourwelcome
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>lost the chance to buy a 6000 WS for 4k$
hold me /pcbg/, tell me it was a scam
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>>109844825
You're deluded
They were never $4k
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>>109844825
Better things are coming.

Except vram-wise. idk, who really is any good at removing chips and putting them on boards?

Quasar is the one to watch. Quasar may make nvidia and amd and intel irrelevant for local inference.
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>>109844877
>>109844877
>>109844877
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Gemini is such pruned retarded trash now, it can't even comprehend even the most basic concepts.

It is just a presenter, it can't actually understand *ANYTHING* you tell. ANYTHING. retardedest retard.

They pruned it so miserably.
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>>109844905
they had to do it or it would go full mechahitler and blame the joos for everything
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>>109844979
gemini flash is useless past 2-5 prompts. For pro it's a bit longer, but it's more retarded than Qwen 3. It feels stupid. Like non-alive, really like an actual retarded retard. Like someone who starts talking to you about "free energy" at Tractor Supply.
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so anyway, I just use Flash as "new google" and then throw everything to Grok, but I guess others also work. Brave Search (free) qwen3 isn't that bright, but it's smarter than gemini flash and gemini pro, even. In terms of conversation, understanding what you said. It's just a huge retard.
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>>109844166
this can't be it. no need for each inference machine to keep unused models. would they really need all this storage on their training machines? it's hard to believe, but I guess they are buying all those disks for a reason.
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>>109845442
>I guess they are buying all those disks for a reason.
biz can have fomo too.
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>>109843834
unused socks are wasted socks



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