Why aren't more governments switching to loonix? Why are small towns spending hundreds of thousands on Microsoft/Adobe licensing?Imagine a city running some custom nix deployment for each department... Sounds like a sysadmins wet dream
none of the programs I use for work would work with linux, so it's a pretty retarded idea
>>109857836based macaron
>>109857857using a few windows only programs through wine. even made .desktop files for them so I can directly launch them lol
>>109857836There is no less free operating system than one that does not work.
>>109857836Govts, big companies and in general any big institution care mostly about the support they're getting. Also often they rely on some old pos software that hasn't been updated in decades. Remember when DOGE found out some social benefits receivers were marked as 200+ years old?
>>109857836Baby duck syndrome and lobbyists pushing contracts that undercut others. One of the reasons MS really didn't give a shit about the piracy of it's OS is because the people who pirated it would eventually go into the world of work where the company had licensed it and their support.I remember a couple of years ago looking into how much money the UK spent on MS licensing for the civil service over a period of 3-5 years and it was in the region of 3/4 of a billion on licensing alone. That doesn't account for the hardware it would buy separately.It's a massive fucking waste when the civil service is full of "not a real job" middle management and hundreds of millions could be saved by creating a centralised hardware/software branch that provided hardware/software across the state.But then this is the same government who can't manage to build a working rifle for it's armed forces and needs the Germans to fix it.
>>109857836Are they going to use Shitreoffice?
>>109857836because you're unemployed autist and have zero idea what large organizations actually need and want.
>>109857880>Baby duckwhy don't you just get a trip at this pointI really don't understand why you're talking about baby ducks all the fucking time
>>109857984I don't know who you think I am but "baby duck syndrome" is the psychology term for imprinting on a UX or system used by anyone with a clue.
>>109857984https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprinting_(psychology)#Baby_duck_syndrome
>>109857836based JVPITERI wonder which distro they will choose
France is corrupt socialist shithole like Venezuela, they just need more money into their pocket.
>>109857836so they'll now have an actual excuse for working so slow and not getting things done correctly.
>>109858098You're thinking of the Spanish.
>>109857857Like what?
>>109858050Beaurotix/securix or somethingNixos
>>109858147they should go with arch, btw
>>109857836Government IT departments are full of absolute retards.
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>>109857836>soon
>>109857857Not my fucking problem.
>>109857836Politics is mostly about grifting for as much money and backroom deals as possible and rarely about using the best tools available.
>b-buh I need my Turbo Pascal 6 program or else I won't be able to work ever again so you need to accommodate me!! Me me me me me!! MMMMMMMEEEEEEEE!!!!This is an excerpt from the downfall of humanity.
>>109859023>"Switch to Linux.">I can't get my work done>"Not my problem. Switch to Linux anyway."Makes no sense.
>>109857836>Why are small towns spending hundreds of thousands on Microsoft/Adobe licensing?Linux has nothing that can professionally compete with Adobe Photoshop.
>>109857836I can't imagine a g*verment worker being able to use Linux desu
>>109857836Scared that it doesn't look cool mostly
I literally can have the deployment plans ready to fucking goI can automate all your governments data migration into open source formats. You use exchange? I will put you on thunderbird + dovecot, you will have Fedora or reproducible NixOS deployments, it will be, pardon my language, "kick ass"All that legacy data? If it's in Microsoft SQL Server we're good. If you have a legacy COBOL mainframe that might be above my skill level for the time being. I've never worked with an IBM z/OS COBOL legacy mainframe, and I hope I don't have to soon lol
>>109857836I am employed thanks to that.Making the protesting mad>>109860152And that's why I get money
>be winchad>DO LITERALLY NOTHING>live rent free in every freetard permavirgin's head as they post 99% of windows related threads on /g/ and seethe every second of their incel lives at winchads simply existinggod it feels good making lincels seethe without lifting a finger
>>109857836>Francekek those retards cant do anything right
>>109860287>be windchud>spend decades demonizing free software>give your OS away for practically free
>>109857836In Poland it's been allready post 2018:openBSD is for criminals and opsecLinux is for hackers who probably run Russia's Astra Linux and Linus Torvalds is a Z Russian not a FinWindows is the only OS to usemacOS is for rich people who think they are better than everyoneonly criminals care about digital privacy
>>109857836Probably because computers are tools to get (say) documents made, not toys to play with to generate the perfect *fetch screenshot.Windows (and macOS, for that matter) are the former, Loonix is the latter. It's why every government department who tries to switch to Loonix runs back to MS with tears in the eyes, begging for forgiveness, in four years or less.
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>>109857836>2.5 million bureaucratsWhat a fucking shithole this place is
>paristan>literal communists>steal from the rich>steal from the poor>give to mudslime terrorists gratis housing and food so mohammed can bring his 3 wives and 20 children to leech even more taxes to vote for the parasites who gave them the welfare >obviously linux userslollmao even
In my uni they tried to get folks to use linux but they complained it was weird until they put windows back. Most people just aren't willing to learn new stuff I guess then just want what they know works
>>109857857First thing, this isn't my problem. Second, hard isn't learn a new operation system, the OS just need be user friendly and with a "copy" of microsoft officer a good alternative it's the libre officer.>>109860143Make sense, the point to French do it, it's security part.
>>109857836the people who work in governments are either boomers or retards.imagine how long they would need to teach them how everything works.they couldn't handle linux
>>109857836they will get annihilated because AIs will have found 3 quadrillion exploits in the code and the big players will keep those exploits to themselves. imagine compromising your digital infrastructure like that
>>109857836hasn't this shit been the news since 2020? they never gonna switch
>>109862966same for germany
>>109860143ntaI think if you can find alternatives for the programs you use on Linux it can be an option. Otherwise I understand if you can't do your work elsewhere, stay on Windows/Mac.
The mission should be teaching governments about free software ideology. And voting for candidates who ally with the free software movement.
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>>109863045You're seeking to find something wrong but seem struggling.Macron met with Putin before the Russian invasion. What, do you think Macron is lying that Putin didn't give him assurance he wouldn't escalate the conflict at that point?derp
Organizations generally don't use FOSS products because there are no assurances. No support, no direct contact, no contract, it's entirely "use at your own risk"
>>109857836I was watching Putin vote online yesterday or the day before. I was surprised to see he was using Windows 10... you'd think Russia would use an OS that they had some level of control over.
>>109863082He said this while irrefutable evidence of an upcoming invasion were being released. Satellite photos, leaked communications, etc.His immediate reaction was to rush to Putin to suck on his cock
>>109857857Basically this. As long as Microsoft remains the most convenient for a daily driver, for getting work done, and for entertainment (due to being compatible with a higher number of software/games), Linux will remain a backup option.The primary appeal of Linux (if ignore tech nerds without real jobs) is being able to breathe life into older machines. t. posting this from my backup Linux machine
>>109857880Imagine what happens when they put 1/10 of the cost of licensing back into open source development. I know that's why KDE is getting so much new funding
>>109863115Most things you can get working, but then an update will break it or something. It's constant tinkering. Like I need EAC, but then I'll update wine and something will break. I just want shit to work how I need it to without any real effort so I just use Windows, and keep a small laptop with Linux on it for banking. (because I'm downloading cracks and what not)
>>109857836>hey my computer doesn't work t. retarded wagie>no one knows how to fix it>seek "professional support">just sudo killyourself noob install gentoo t. professional loonixtroon "support" (discord mod)
>>109861595Well, that's what we get for being ruled by an army of useful idiots that can't think for themselves and only do what Brussels/Moscow/Washington/London tells them to.
>>109860377There's a reason Ballmer was moved away from his position and Nadella took his place. Ballmer made bad bets, such as being against FOSS and underestimating the iPhone, which ultimately cemented his fate once Windows 8 and Windows Phone were complete duds.Nadella changed the company's approach to FOSS and it only benefitted from it. And so did FOSS. Everyone benefitted from that business model change.
>>109857836Any advanced excel user can tell you LibreOffice is hot garbage comparatively. Licensing is cheaper than paying people to do things the slow way, and MS Office has about 50 years of actually using the money you pay them to make the product fit about every possible use case. LibreOffice and the like will always be potemkin villages that look similar on the surface, but the fuck ton of missing features will immediately be noticed by every power user. That, and Flatpak is the best attempt at long term binary compatibility, and they're already working on an incompatible version 2... Win32 wins outright if you want software made for your platform to keep working decades from now, especially if you are a government paying to have that software made.
>>109863227what features libre is missing
>>109863115True. Why I stay on Windows? It just works. I spend an afternoon beating it and it stays the way I like it for years. No need to force myself to switch to Linux so that I stroke egos of a bunch of obnoxious retards online.>>109860143That's the point. It makes no sense, as freetards are an embodiments of idiocy. The greatest mistake you could make is to try and argue with a freetard, you'll just get irritated and get nothing of value while the freetard will act like he won. It's a pointless exercise. Let them suffer, nothing hurts them more than you using Windows and not caring for Linux, no matter how much they act that "it's your loss and your loss only". They hate nothing more than not getting their way, and to listen to them and switch to Linux no matter what is to do what they want you to do. So fuck 'em.
>>109863221During Ballmer's era Linux was worrisome, but a decade later it's fundamental design proved it will never succeed at the desktop, and the people using it for servers are never going to pay for OS licenses again anyway. Linux exists, but you'd be a fool to think it's a serious business threat to what Microsoft offers.
>>109863253Well it has completely decimated Windows Server in the enterprise space, but then again, NT never had the makings of a server OS, and that space was dominated by UNIX where Linux simply superseded it.But it is true that desktop Linux is a non-threat to Microsoft. No matter how good it gets, it's too rotten to ever pose a threat. Unless of course, a company like Google would take the Linux kernel, build their own desktop OS around it, and make it an actually threatening counter-option to Windows. Like the potential of turning Android into a desktop OS where the robust Android software ecosystem is kept. Now that is something that *could* rustle Microsoft's jimmies more than an army of screeching freetards perpetually stuck in the 1990's.
>>109863296but why bother? I don't see why Google would even care about that. The phone market is so much more lucrative, and they don't care what OS desktop users use anyway as long as they use Google services. They control the browser, and the web.
>>109863326Well they already are, but they don't seem to be gunning for Windows or Mac, but rather bring more utility to Android smartphones. Flagship Qualcomm chips are already powerful enough to be used in a Macbook Neo fashion of slamming a smartphone mobo into a laptop, USB-C docks capable of turning a laptop into a proper desktop with multiple monitors were a thing for a while, so why not bridge the gap?
>>109857836>Microsoft/AdobeBecause amerifags are inherently unstable and unreliable partners and it's all spyware corporatist faggotry. They've been cucked by dystopian fascist pedophiles, and will try to leverage anything they can to destroy everything they come in contact with. If your "friend" attacks you more than your enemies, that friend is not a friend. It's an enemy. USA is the enemy of the entire world and they have no friends. At least North Korea has one friend. USA has chosen to have zero.Basically, it's like USA has ebola and no one wants to touch them.
>>109857836murca is a hive of corrupt pedophiles. that's why.
>>109863350News flash retard: every world superpower is an AIDS ridden shithole. USA, Russia, China, India, you name it. It just so happens that the USA is the least AIDS ridden superpower so people prefer to side with them. It's bold whacking your meat off to the idea that the US is a surveillance state given how China pioneered that shit and Russia also loves to keep an eye on their citizens in case they speak against the government.
>>109857836Desktop Windows is superior to Desktop Linux because of software compatibility. How many different ways do you need it explained to you, autistic /g/oober?
>>109863469Gubmint work could get away with using Linux when it's 99% webshit, something Linux just werks for, and not being tied to a private US corporation's product is a good thing.But this is no sign of Linux's "superiority" over Windows. Imagine having to side with something as mind-boggingly incompetent as the French fucking government to get your "win" lmfao
>>109863359Linux is an American OS, much like how 4chan is an American website
>>109863394Nah. USA as cucked to authoritarian faggotry as the rest. Amerifats have just had their brain rotted by pedophile propaganda their entire lives to believe that "murce #1!"Murca will kill your family, and if you resist, you're labeled a terrorist and they'll put you in a concentration camp for the rest of your life and torture you until you die. If you disagree with the government you're labeled a terrorist and you get disappeared right off the fucking street by ICE(IS) secret police.In fact, the most authoritarian shit in China is mostly fake. Like the social credit system and camera surveillance that's supposed to identify people by their face is practically non-existent.
>>109863187They're not gonna rawdog some community distro. They'll hire Canonical to reskin Ubuntu with little French flags everywhere and pay for support like the gendarmerie already did.
Surprised they're not forcing people to use Mistral
>all these seething americansjej
Windows 10 LTSC works fine for me without any issues. Switching to an entirely new and unproven system would be a lot of unnecessary work. I imagine the same goes for large organizations.
>>109863296Microsoft definitely put a stop to that 2 months OEMs tried to sell dual boot Windows/Android laptops. It could have already have been...>>109863296Provide some proof it was ever successful outside of managing other Windows machines with Active Directory/Group Policy.
>>109863968Worth it. Modern burgers are too fucking retarded to make an OS. Windows is going to come apart at the seams over the next decade as Microsoft has to teach its new american hires basic skills, like reading and writing.
>>109863891mistral is fucking shit
>>109857836based
