So what now? Is GrapheneOS dead if there's no more updates and the updates to AOSP are sporadic and incomplete and break compatibility? Why is google doing this?w
>>109880184Now android is forked
>>109880184Homeland security (border patrol) got owned by a GrapheneOS phone using a duress password to wipe the phone's data after they violated the constitution and seized an American's phone at the border.Because of that they ordered google to break GOS compatibility.
>>109880203they must be scared shitless of GraphenOS. I think I read that Motorola is the first OEM to have phones with it and that must have spooked Google.
Looks like they won't even update security fixes.This is the end of GrapheneOS since they won't have the budget to find and fix all the bugs.
You homos never cease to make me laugh. Here you are... You're entire lives, everything from your birth certificate to your work history, to every address you've ever lived, everything important about you having been uploaded and maintained in a database.... And here you are... >NOOO LE HECKIN GOOGLY WOOGLY MIGHT SEE I BOUGHT A NEW DILDO ON AMAZON AAAAAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE lmao
GPL status?
>>109880258I have a relative running GrapheneOS on their phone. It's really annoying because their phone breaks both family conference calls and RCS.
ah i just wont update to 17, thenwhere is the antitrust lawsuit
Is this breaking any software licences?
>>109880348Google's code, google's rules. They don't have to license it under GPL if they don't want to.
>>109880391Aren't they using GPL Linux code? I don't think android is entirely written by them.
>>109880369>where is the antitrust lawsuitGiven the big tech's grip on Washington, they're immune from it.Anti trust never solved anything really. It's just a cope that some people grip to. There's nothing that courts will do to make a change.
>>109880400>Aren't they using GPL Linux code? I don't think android is entirely written by them.Look up kernel vs. user-space boundary wrt licensing. They don't have to release it. And if you contribute to Android, you must give Google rights to do with the code as they please.So no, they don't have to release it.Given how time-sensitive security updates are, any delay in Google's releases will destroy the project. No one will want use a vulnerable phone even if it gets fixed 1 month after the Google issues updates.Unless Google is forced or they willingly change their mind, GrapheneOS is gonna die.
>>109880354I used it for a while then I wised up. Think about it for a moment. As I said everything that's significant about you>Drivers license >Medical records >Work history>Social security number >College and high school transcripts>Every where you've lived>Military records >Credit history / banking history >Tax records >Purchase history (unless you pay cash only, which no one does)>Birth certificateFucking everything is already in a database. And give how much those databases have been hacked... Probably on the dark web too. And now with all that we have flock cameras, other cameras on every corner, phone carriers tracking you (graphene can't stop that), other technologies watching your every move.And schizos freaking out that Google saw you went to lunch at Arby's or that you listened to Slayer when jogging, or that you bought a cat toy on Amazon. Wtf... Really THAT is what they're worried about? I gave up Graphene and stopped being a schizo.
>google is killing the sole reason anybody has to buy their phonesvery bold strategy
>>109880237>try normie phone>google now has a microphone in your pocket and geolocation of your testicles>try freedom phone>banking and medical-device apps refuse to work
>>109880464Good on you, anon. We're just not on this planet long enough to be this paranoid if you ask me. Hopefully my relative comes around, but I have zero confidence they will. They're too obsessed with themselves.
>>109880348violated
>>109880529>banking and medical-device appsbloat
>>109880258I can't make it impossible for googleniggers to track me. But I can make it harder, which brings me joy. It's the little things in life.
just use AI to code a new mobile os
>>109880215I think that incident worked in gov's favor and got a lot of people dissuaded from using it.
>>109880184I want google to just die and the open source Android to be the only one to survive. No more shit. No more mandatory paid account for devs. No more spyware.I'll check who is the jeet ceo of google (because it has to be one) and send him a letter telling him that if he doesn't surrender I'll harm a cow.
>>109880529>bankingYou should not need a banking app anyway. There are plenty of ways to live without one
>>109880461So googles changes to the kernel itself will continue to be public, right?
>>109880495>their phonesThey want you to buy Pixels, not Samshits.
<<109880258You should blow your brains off, subhuman glowie
>>109880712No banking app means you can't buy things online (because of the retarded security check).>There are plenty of ways to live without one You don't have one?
>>109880738Yes but kernel is not where most of the security issues stem from.
>>109880461The Motorola deal is actually going to be intersting, since OEMs get fast access to security fixes (nobody wants headlines like "millions of samsung/motorola/whatever phones hacked because google kept crucial security fixes pixel-exclusive"). And Motorola plans to provide a choice of stock or Graphene on their shit, so if they get the usual OEM security patches it will apply equally to both and Graphene will be able to use them directly for the most part I expect.So then Google could restrict Motorola's access and kill their phones if it wanted. Not out of the question because it's not like Motorola is a market leader; they're not tiny but they're small enough that Google could afford to sacrifice them. It'd be really funny if they go to such lengths just because of Graphene.I suppose Google could also provide the fixes under an NDA and contractually forbid them from incorporating them into Graphene. That'd be really interesting, and it's probably scutter the Graphene deal entirely. If Google does this after the phones release, they'll be a shitstorm since it'll make the phones useless, whereas if they do it beforehand maybe Motorola will still be able to cancel. They wouldn't be happy but it'd be feasible, and this would probably be the worst outcome overall.Google technically has the power to just whitelist OEMs and force them to lock all bootloaders and forbid any kind of custom ROMs in order to get access to its upstream Android development.
>>109880741>He's too poor to get a Fold 8 UltraIt's ok Raji. You could always do some more copper diving in the Ganges and save up your Rupees.
>>109880807I think you're right in spirit but wrong on the events that will follow.Google and Motorola won't move away from each other. They'll move closer and Google will try to push Graphene further and further under Motorola's umbrella. Once the stage is set, Motorola will have enough leverage to say "give us more power inside Graphene or else".After enough time, Graphene will be fully compromised by corporate interests and will be extinguished, as it won't stand as a beacon of privacy anymore.
>>109880800Ah I see. Thanks
>>109880795You don't need any program to buy things online you massive idiot
>>109880940You see, normally this would be a risk. But you forget that Micay is an actual schizo. People regularly shit on him for it but the best projects are always made by mentally ill people and this is no exception. Micay will burn down his relationship with Motorola long before he lets them do stuff inside Graphene that he doesn't agree with.If Motorola moves "closer" to Google, they'll either kick Graphene out, or Google will be forced to let Graphene coexist.The only uncertainty is what will happen if the project literally ends up with no future, where Pixels get locked down or something and Motorola starts demanding shit he doesn't like. But it'd be no different to what would have happened before the deal had Google decided to just lock Pixels down. I have no idea what Micay's plan is but he probably has one, and knowing what he's usually like it will probably just be shutting down GrapheneOS rather than compromising on anything.And maybe searching for another OEM or trying to get into hardware (and likely failing especially if Google is hostile but such is life).
>>109880840>Foldcan't tell if falseflagging jeet or just an enormous faggot kek
>buying a google phone thinking your degoogled>using "degoogling os" from googlegee im sure glad im not this regarded.
>>109880354The dev who makes it is a raging faggot who doesn't smoke test or check anything for stability before pushing updates. I got sick and tired of having a fully working device get borked because of a forced update I can't reject. Ended up back on stock.
>>109881224Give examples? I've been running graphene for like three years now and never had an issue, so I'm curious to hear how he's broken other people's phones
>>109881262I've been running Graphene for about 2 years now and it's the same form e, never had a problem.Pretty sure the people complaining are just agitators, replyfarming with low effort posts.
>>109881262The Google play dependencies for one always break every update. And before someone gets all weird on me for using them, I have other reasons for wanting to use GOS (specifically work apps). I don't care if google has my info.
>>109880650Whoever got dissuaded by that kind of thing wasn't serious about giving up stock Android/iOS in the first place.
>>109882012some people just don't wanna get harassed every time they board a plane. that can take hours/day of your life for almost no benefit at all.
>>109882037Again, if "some people" think that just having GrapheneOS on their phone will get them harassed by authorities, then those people were probably too retarded to install it to begin with.
>>109882037Just don't use the duress pin then
>>109880561average autist
>>109882096>Just don't use the duress pin thenwhat's the point then? they will take away your phone and demand you unlock it for them and if you don't, you'll be locked up.>>109882095it takes only few clicks to install Graphene. It's not hard at all.
