Actual use case for it and truly worth it or just some marketing gimmick?
>>109881010Deprecated by TM-30.https://www.dmflighting.com/tm-30-simplified/
>>109881010Makes things look nicer. I like using it when painting and in the dining room as it makes the food I make look better. It makes a real difference if you care about how things look. Hospitals have very low cri bulbs which is why everything looks like shit; it's purely utilitarian.
>>109881010Funny to come across this thread right when I opened the catalog, because I’ve been doing light research into street lights and I’m genuinely curious about something, why do we still have so many street lights that have really poor color rendering? Do we just not have the technology to create smoother emission spectra that doesn’t make everything look really uncanny at night? I’m especially wondering why the redder parts especially seem to be weaker than blues, yellows, and greens.
high cri is for gullible redditors.
Cheap and high output leds have bad CRI. The LED emits only blue (almost UV, the spike in those charts), which is then filtered through a phosphor layer to produce white light spectrum. More phosphor, less blue light. You can imagine that it takes relatively lot of phosphor to produce any red from blue leds, therefire the limen output suffers the higher the CRI. Hue bulbs for example work around this by having actual red leds in the mix.
If you don't notice a difference you're the perfect cattle and don't need to change anything. Just buy whatever bulb. If you notice how absolute shit most LED lights are at producing acceptable light then you always want to test before you buy and only buy the ones that sorta make okayish light. Incandescent still have the best colors simply due to how physics work.
>>109881202As always it's because money. LED based lighting is based on high power blue LEDs with a phosphor that converts the blue output into white light. That phosphor costs money, the more and the better it is the more expensive.Cities absolutely hate to spend money so they pick the cheapest fucking lighting they can get away with and that's cold white LED because warm white would mean thicker phosphor and better color rending would mean more expensive phosphor. So in the end you end up with nothing but cold light LED street lamps with shitty light that turn pink or whatever after a couple years because the phosphor they chose is so low quality that it degrades quickly. That's why you see so many street lamps with funny colors now. The phosphor in them degraded.
>>109881407>>109881202OH and also less phosphor (resulting in colder white) also means higher efficiency because. That means they have to spend less money on electricity for the same light output compared to LEDs with warmer light.That's also why you see LEDs with warmer white have a lower light output rating while pulling the same or even more watts.
>>109881407>As always it's because money.Is it even moderately expensive for a city/town to shell out the money for better lights or is it one of those “pinching every penny” scenarios? Budget data would be super interesting but I don’t know if that stuff is ever made public.
If this isn't a scam, why are the hundreds of low vs high CRI comparison images obviously fake?
>>109881475Anon, it's always about how to spend the least amount of money possible and getting away with it. If it "does the job" of lighting the street then it's fine. Do you seriously think they go >hmmmm... the color rending of the street lamps we chose is abysmal... the orange car parked next to the lamp looks rather de-saturated...No one in charge thinks like that. Cold white LEDs with shitty CRI are simply the best bang for the buck and there's absolutely no incentive for them to switch to actually good lights. Not even simply warm white LED since even that already means less light for the same money spent on electricity. The difference between each individual lamp may be quite small but you have to think at scale here. A city doesn't have just one street lamp. With hundreds it does make a difference.
>>109881010I mean it makes everything look juicier, have you ever actually eaten in broad daylight? Food and drinks look immaculate under direct sunlight
>>109881010cri marketing is cope to pretend leds are as good as incandescents
>>109881202>why do we still have so many street lights that have really poor color renderingto make people mentally ill
>>109881010>CRINoble goal, shit implementation. It's trivial to fudge this metric it since it's based on a handful of bands while spectrum may look like the Grand Canyon.Also OP image a shit.
I cri evertiem
>>109881010I replaced all the lights in my home with incandescents. Fuck this LED bullshit, I don't care how much less energy it uses. Incandscents are so much comfier and so much better. The thing about incandescents that cannot be replicated with LEDs is the dimming behavior. As you dim the incandescent, it becomes more and more orange red which is insanely comfy. It's delightful at night now to have the lights on low in my house. Pure kino. The way I save energy is by turning down the light when I'm not in the room.My house is an oasis of darkness and peace now in this fucked up LED world
>>109881010I think gay lemons look cool as fuck I’d buy some for drinks
>>109882891>as good as incandescentsThey emit so much heat, that they keep melting my bulb holders.
>>109883211Show.
>>109883861>They emit so much heat, that they keep melting my bulb holders.are they new? theyre all cheap shit now only rated for like 10w
>>109881202The things I’d do to have streetlights that makes everything look like sunset rather than weirdly pisscoated…
>>109881202High cri is power inefficient. Cant have that thanks to climate troons
>>109884202>Our world is dying >Redesign every street light that costs 1 million dollarsKek
>>109884550>Redesign every street light that costs 1 million dollarshuh