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People on this forum will willingly defend and shill for the garbage on the left, which is nothing but a heat source masquerading as a lighting device, an inefficient garbage relic of the wasteful past.
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>>109887112
Stop spamming
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and that's another schizo to add to my personal SNCA Encyclopedia.
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>>109887112
the light pollution from the right is insane
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They banned incandescent because it was easier on the eyes & healthier for you, while replacing it with harsh LEDs to make you a slave.
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>>109887112
left is more sovlfvl
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>>109887176
>>109887197
Just dim them or change the color lol.
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LEDs make people weak and submissive.
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>>109887222
That can help but it can also make it worse and the fundamental problem is the way LEDs produce light.
They flicker and they don't produce light via blackbody radiation which the human eyes are adopted for, especially blackbody radiation focused towards the red end of the spectrum is far better than LEDs during mornings, evenings and nights.

Your stress hormones become elevated when exposed to LED lights and that's not something most people need more of in todays society.
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>>109887222
reddit mindset
You reduce every problem to a 1 or 2 parameters you can understand and ignore all unknown unknowns are pretend they don't exist.
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>>109887112
LED light is strong enough to pierce the ball skin and harm fertility.
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>>109887112
The problem with LED lamps is that, while the LEDs themselves are quite durable, they usually pair it with cheap-ass electronics that burn out easily. I had to replace quite a few of them, and when I break them open it's always the same story. LEDs works fine, but it's always some resistor or capacitor that burned out.
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>>109887270
This is /g/, you have to be a little more specific than that.
The vast majority of LEDs produce no ionizing radiation and very little infrared.
If you are trying to say LEDs produce enough near ultraviolet light to heat the balls of people then you are delusional unless you are talking about some very specific LEDs in some very specific situations to which I'd say don't do that.
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My main issue with incandescents is not power consumption, but the fucking HEAT they emit. Unusable in study table lamps
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>>109887112
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel
>The cartel lowered operational costs and worked to standardize the life expectancy of light bulbs at 1,000 hours[4] (down from 2,500 hours),[4] while raising prices without fear of competition. The reduction in lifespan has been cited as an example of planned obsolescence.[7] Regulators in the UK and some independent engineers have noted that there are benefits to shorter bulb lifespans, as shorter-life bulbs can be brighter for the same wattage.[8][9] Nevertheless, both internal comments from cartel executives[4] and later findings by a US court[10] suggest that the cartel's direct motivation for the change was to increase profits by forcing customers to buy bulbs more frequently.
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>25000 hours lifespan
Mods LED bulbs will struggle to reach that 1000 hour lifetime. Absolute scam nonsense.
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>>109887328
Likewise, is there any LED cartel, too? What do you opine?
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>>109887351
My LED lasted 6x my previous incandescent
It's not impossible for incandescents to last longer, but they don't make the good ones anymore.
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>>109887112
when can i get AI into the one on the right
what the fuck are these retards waiting for
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>>109887112
Yes, because all of that is based. As are coal fired steam engines and hand made furniture. LEDs are gay and soulless.
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>>109887426
I use these decorative Edison style bulbs from the dollar general, and the last one I had lasted 6 years. I know they're specifically the real incandescent ones and not the LED look alikes because of how how they get while running.
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>>109887112
LED lights disrupt sleep and cause other hormone issues. Bad sleep alone will give you brain damage. You're choosing brain damage in the name of line-goes-up "progress". It's remarkable how all modern "progress" turns out to be self-harm and dysgenics. You don't even need to know anything about the technology. Just pick something - anything - that normies consider a QoL improvement and say it's designed to harm them. You will be right 95% of the time.
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>>109887112
leds make you mentally ill due to their lack of red light and spikes in the blue light spectrums, incandescent bulbs have a spectrum matching fire its good for you. incandescents being banned all over the world is why mental illness has increased massively over the last decade
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>>109887112
is it ledlight day for the bots and npc's?
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>>109887497
>LED lights disrupt sleep
Then turn them off before you go to bed.
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>>109887121
you're gonna summon nophono by adding this one watch out
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I'm seeing definite signs of the aforementioned brain damage in >>109887684.
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>>109887671
>Noooo, keep my precious catalog safe for more ai bs and twitter and youtube celeb flamewar topics
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>>109887671
Provide a list of 5 threads you've fathered recently.
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>>109887112
The two bulbs are not equivalent, the incandescent is superior light source. But since performance does not seem to factor in, by that logic, and empty bulb socket is even better since it never wears out.
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>>109887418
There is. Nevertheless, an incandescent is currently about 1/10th the price of a high CRI LED bulb so the price difference is at most a factor of 2-3x.
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>>109887827
>the incandescent is superior light source
Citation, gib
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>>109887482
Heat is the only issue I have with incandescent
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>>109887975
>citation
Look at the color spectrum they emit. There's a heavy spike in blue (yes, even from high CRI warm white LED bulbs). It wreaks havoc on your circadian rhythm, which depends on blue light waning as the sun sets.
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>>109887283
Yes. Which is why the supposed longer lifespan is a lie. A LED bulb is not a LED diode.
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>>109888097
Does this justify a tremendously more power usage (for no benefit gained) and high heat emissions
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>>109888236
>for no benefit gained
He literally just experienced what the benefit was. Also yes, it absolutely does justify it.
>high heat emissions
Has always been managed and never been a problem for the non-retarded part of the population.
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>>109887112
AI image
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>>109888262
Do you personally use incandescent bulbs in your home? If yes, please share a pic.
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>>109887244
They don't flicker if you don't buy shit bulbs with small caps and yeah sure they aren't the sun or a campfire or a tungsten resistive heater in a vaccumed out glass shell you call a lightbulb but you are still wrong about how LED lightbulbs work. If you even understand on a surface level how any LED works you probably think we're still in 1999 back when you were a teenager and everything was better, what shines is maybe according to you the raw silicon piercing your cornea with scary blue light n shieet which is such an incorrigibly retarded belief you can verify by smashing a 1 dollar bulb with a rock that let's leave as an exercise to the reader
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I wouldn't hate LED's as much as I do if towns everywhere weren't replacing old incandescent bulbs with the brightest, coldest, fuck your eyes and your circadian rhythm LED's they could source. All of the lightbulbs in my house are LED, and the reason they don't piss me off is because they're warm. But right outside my window? A bright white LED so that I have to use blackout curtains to be able to sleep.
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>>109888332
>Do you personally use incandescent bulbs in your home?
Yes.
>If yes, please share a pic.
No fag, I'm not posting pictures of my home for you.
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>grugbrained knuckle-dragging retards who never gave a shit about technology and are merely using a forum on the topic as a platform for politics have shit technology takes
Who could've guessed?
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>>109888236
>Does this justify a tremendously more power usage
Yes.

>for no benefit gained
It benefits real people. Not sure about NPCs like you. Do you "people" even need sunlight?
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>>109887112
>25,000 hour lifespan
Only true for the LED diode itself.
In reality LEDs are prone to pure dogshit MTBF's due to their driving circuitry being vastly more complex than anything in an incandescent lamp.
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>>109887112
Led's aren't more energy efficient
Can be used to spy on you
And they make you sick

The left can be made to last decades and creates a warm soft glow that doesn't fuck with your brain.
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>>109887351
This. The filament (diodes) might have that lifespan, but they cram the power supply in the threaded base and it cooks off in a year.
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>>109887112
>People on this forum
sage
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>>109888491
Putting PSU into 80C oven kills the PSU, oh my science!
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>>109887112
There was also a planned obsolescence element to the old light bulb.
The newer stuff isn't made in the west, so I guess it hasn't happened.
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Most people shilling incandescent ITT don't use it themselves, kek
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>Most people shilling incandescent ITT don't use it themselves, kek
Inventing facts about Anonymous is a valid technological argument.
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>>109888236
The deep red and near infra-red light is beneficial.
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>>109888236
Most would rather use that power to have healthier better looking lights rather then save it for fucking data centers.
It's a control of the populace thing not an "environmental safety" thing.
I've not seen any evidence that the change to LEDs away from incandescent has saved us a single kilowat in power anywhere.

If you can prove that it saves power and money then can you link me to a source with verifiable evidence.
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>>109887166
Not my problem. I sleep during the night.
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>People who stare at LED screens all day complaining about LED light bulbs
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>>109887112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VRypR6NsoU
leds are like AI
fake and gay and gives you cancer
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>>109887112
LED lights didn't reduce my electric bill
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>>109888790
okay, but we know looking at fucking screens all day is fucking shit for your health. These LED light bulbs though? They're touted as the best thing ever and MUST replace all other bulbs. They've banned all other bulbs in Europe. Really makes you think.
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Why can't they just string together R G and B LEDs like picrel in the correct ratio to get a nice spectrum?
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>>109888491
I dunno man, my LED porch light has been on 24/7 for the last 3 years. I think if anything 25k hours is an understatement.
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>>109889010
they already do that in certain solutions like some really primal led screens meant for distances
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>>109889010
A purely yellow object doesn't reflect red or green light. So if you illuminate the yellow object with just narrowband red and green light, the yellow object wont bounce any light at all and will look incorrect.
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>>109889030
Oh so the phosphor is largely responsible for the spectrum bandwidth
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>>109888683
Post (Your) incandescent lighting setup.
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>>109889023
LEDs have a severe case of bathtub failure curve. If you happen to luck out and get well soldered unit which you keep in a well ventilated/cold enclosure, it can last till the diodes wear out, which is practically forever.
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>>109889070
Oh wait no, leds aren't narrow like lasers.



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