Why does no one respect requests of people who say don't train AI models using their artwork? Why is that that treated as an immaterial and insolvent objection from people who need to accept that it's not in their control, despite any claim to creative ownership and delegation of use that they believe they have?
>>109893355Because I don't think artfaggots are humans. So I treat them like objects, they have no rights, and this is why I don't respect their wishesMy hate for artfags is old. I traced their art before AI. Photoshopped it too
>>109893355Publishing something means making it available to the public. You don’t get to choose who looks at it after it’s been released to the public. Artists who want to control people through their works are scummy. If you want full control then keep it private.
>>109893393When a nigger steals a sandwich he gets shot by cops, when a nigger steals books to train an AI model its called "fair use" I hope you fucking kill yourself lmao
>>109893420Jerome is angry, watch out guys call the cops
>put picture up openly for free with no digital locks on the internet>say don't use it for AI>people use it how they want including for AI within their rights as they are not violating the DMCA by bypassing digital locks>surprised pikachuface
>>109893355Chinese and Indians will cheat and steal whatever they can to get ahead. To get ahead of them, the Americans will do whatever they can, including cheating and stealing and dealing with the inevitable lawsuits along the way. Chinese and Indians will just laugh away lawsuits until you actually physically ban their products from the United States which is their biggest market.
>>109893355Is why even when it says "do not repost" I post in 4chin. Because I love artists and want more ppl to see their art.
>>109893355Large corporations have spent decades respectfully requesting you not download their content from a torrent. Why don't you respect those wishes? Because you want that content and don't expect there to be any consequences.
>>109893355Because it's hard to ground that demand in a value that both the person making the art and the people who use that art for training share. You put that image online, it's out of your hands at that point as long as using it doesn't violate something important that we agree on like copyright. Why can't my computer program learn to draw by looking at it and trying to recreate it in a training environment? You don't demand that a human can't learn to draw by looking at your art and trying to recreate it in his private sketches that he doesn't publish anywhere.
>>109893420I have no concern about the opinion of a pathetic racist like yourself.
If you don't want to appear in public, perfectly legal photographs and videos, don't show up in public.Same goes here. If you don't want your work to be used in AI training, don't fucking post it on the Internet.
>>109893355Because we are in hell. We died a long time ago. That's why people in power act like demons. And why everyone else is so evil. We are in hell. Being punished.
>>109893552stop aciting like you wouldve gave a fuck if I wasnt you virtue signaling cunt
>>109893355Bro, have you seen what's in the typical danbooru dataset? It's deviantart-tier crap. Is your art somehow different? Yeah... right, I thought so.You should be happy your art even makes it into a an AI model.
>>109893623acting like you can do any better lmao go write an actual research paper faggot and talk to me when your school uses it to train their AI model without permission
>>109893355If you do not want other people to use your work then do not share your work with other people.It's that simple. No matter if it's code or art.
Copyright is a legal fiction and only matters if enforced. The US gov is on the side of AI so they won't be enforcing it, hence making it fair game
>>109893572I would have at least considered your perspective my good friend. Racism eliminates the opportunity for intelligent discussion.
>>109893482This is so stupid. If someone wants to use your art as reaction image or part of image dump they will do so no matter if you add this or not.And the only websites that might care, ie boorus will always try to link to original post so people can find you and more of your works(free advertisement)The only thing these watermarks accomplish is making your art ugly.
american AI companies cry when chinese AI companies steal their AI
>>109893689If we do it, it's goodIf they do it, it's badRead Schmitt
>>109893709lol so you guys arent even pretending not to be fascist anymore?
>>109893355Not my problem I’ll keep training my LoRas and rewriting your code using my aiCope more
>>109893714Yes.
>>109893714China is closer to fascism than the US unironically
>>109893689That kinda discourse always sounds weirdly biased. Imma use a Chinese ai rn to be fair, no worries.
>>109893355If you don't want your art being used in AI training, then just slap NIGGER all over it. But nooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOoOOOooOOo, because that's an actual solution to the problem and you just want to whine.
>>109893355I care about as much as I care about an artist complaining that another artist trained using their works as reference without their permission.I dislike copyright anyway, especially in its current form. Better no copyright than this one.The one thing I dislike about this is that it's most likely not going to be applied the same way for every company that does this.
>>109893689AI is public domain a gift from America to the world it’s a symbol of our excellence and a Chinese AI baked on American data and tech is an automatic cultural victory for the U S of A, so I say let them “steal” all they want!
>>109893393>It was unlocked, I had every right to help myself to what was inside!
All I'm questioning is why people don't deserve any respect for making a civil request.>Please don't walk on my grass.>How about you go fuck yourself, my dog has to shit somewhere and I'm going to stand next to him.
>>109893884Your analogy is wrong because the item (the work) was left in public (released). It’s no different from picking up a dollar you found on the ground. Obviously that dollar belonged to someone, it came from someone’s pocket, but if you find it it’s yours.Your analogy is apt for works that have not been released and indeed the creator does deserve to control a work they themselves never intended to release but still only to a certain degree.
>>109893893It’s not their grass. It’s the public park. Which makes the request not so civil but actually quite dickheaded.
DONT USE MY ART FOR AI TRAININGOh yeah? The fuck you gonna do about it? If I see that I'll specifically use it for AI. It's like those people who put the "There's nothing in my car, don't smash my windows" sign on their car. Those windows are getting smashed out of pure spite.
ai was able to take off so quickly in part because artists were and mostly still are insufferable to interact with, nearly regardless of talent but especially at the lower end of talent. the really good ones will sometimes surprise you. the regular or subpar artists will never surprise you.
>>109893355I got a whole pipeline to get rid of these, custom trained inpainting, yolos from different watermarks, and other secret sauces etc... They would have to absolutely plaster the image with these and no transparency (unlike say those getty images watermarks, I can easily remove them) for me to not be able to get something good for training out of the pipeline.
>>109893910kek
Copyright has to be the biggest gaslight in modern history. Anyone thinking the law is out there protecting your shitty OC from getting stolen is completely delusional. It's always been for large corporations to protect their revenue stream, not for "artists".
>>109894194based af
>>109893355Might makes right.
