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A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, AI IDEs, browser builders, and shipping code with LLMs.

## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do it
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/
https://code.claude.com/docs/en/overview
https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs

## News
- 2026-09-22 — OpenAI releases GPT-6 Sol and Luna
- 2026-09-22 — Anthropic releases Opus 5.5
- 2026-09-22 — Anthropic increases subscription plans's 5-hour limits by 20%
- 2026-09-14 — Anthropic reduces subscription plans's weekly limits by 17%
- 2026-09-12 — Anthropic suggests to pace the frontier. OpenAI agrees in principle.
- 2026-09-10 — OpenAI pauses new sign-ups for their $200 subscription
- 2026-09-04 — OpenAI releases GPT-6 Astra
- 2026-09-01 — Anthropic releases Fable 5.1

## Related generals
>>>/g/lmg/

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## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20
https://claude.com/product/claude-code
https://openai.com/codex/

## Best free-tier
https://antigravity.google/pricing

----

## Prompting
https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overview
https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model

## Skills
https://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-with-docs is a favorite

## Independent analysis of AI
https://artificialanalysis.ai/

## Is your AI unlearning?
https://aistupidlevel.info/

## Will there be a codex reset?
https://codex-resets.com/

## What we’ve done
https://vcg.gitgud.site

## Previous thread
>>109901448
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Opus 5.5 solved LLMs
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2 more weeks surely
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>>109905424
any day now sam will spin up 20000 agents to find out a better alternative to transformers
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heard Sonnet 5.5 is in testing. i might not even need chink models anymore
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>>109905442
>dario now pays for 4chan shills
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a 5.6 sol is agi
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how can I get a claude max sub without giving Peter Thiel my ID?
chinese account from Alibaba?
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I'm switching to claude next week, they better not nerf it shortly after release.
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>>109905447
im starting to think the people who dont just use both are looking for validation in their choices
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>>109905442
sonnet-5.5 will likely have opus-5.5/fable-5.1's safeguards. so chinese models will always have their niche.
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So the conspiracy was true all along. People could tell something was off.

https://archive.ph/LxmeA
>According to one of the sources, who had direct knowledge, DEY. also preemptively booked Nate Soares, a prominent AI safety figure, for interviews that directly overlapped with Jacob going public.

Fun fact: Nate Soares is that Aella whore's boyfriend. The one who did the gangbang shtick. Those are all AI safety doom people, it's a cult.
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>>109905463
It kind of reminds me of what the console war was like back then.
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>>109905478
yeah, console wars were understandable given the context (young, no money, expensive purchase) meanwhile these subs are $20 and you can drop them whenever you're bored.
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>>109905486
Considering what I've seen in these threads (e.g. begging for reset etc.) $20 is probably a lot for many anons here.
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>>109905463
using both is not a viable proposition due to native harnesses. you cannot just switch. claude code doesn't even support .agents/skills.
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>>109905451
>how can I get a claude max sub without giving Peter Thiel my ID?
live in the first world and not a turd world shithole
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>>109905507
pffffft
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>>109905471
it was obvious af this was a ploy to force fake ai will kill us bs and force regulations. anyone not seeing it is dumb.
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>>109905507
just create a copy to .claude/
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>>109905514
do substantiate how you would use both for a project
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>>109905512
That's rude to americans.
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>>109905550
my own harness
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>>109905512
they ask for ID for basically any arbitrary reason now, I wouldn't be surprised if it's impossible to make a new account and not require ID anymore
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>ctrl f "AI"
>15 results
please use the correct name, it's SI
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it's over vibebros
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>>109905555
americans aren't asked for id honey
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>>109905631
SI = Smelly India?
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>>109905631
>Safe Superintelligence Inc.
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>>109905631
That's only mandated on official US documents. Fuck off lardy.
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shit intelligence
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>>109905658
ssi = super smelly india
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109905679
uh oh...a woke wrong is butt mad the god king of the planet trump shut down the tisms and their wacky jacky and showed why he fucks a harem and you all put on panties and cross dress you're a "girl".
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>>109905658
Can you match his aura?
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i will be calling it super intelligence from now on btw
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>>109905658
he needs to shave
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>>109905689
all the thinking about ai made his brain too heated and burned away all his hair near the frontal lobe
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gemini 4 when
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>>109905725
currently A/B testing in india, please have patience
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>>109905733
even funnier the 100x time
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It will be equivalent to Grok 4.7.
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I am le tired. I will have a beer and go to sleep.
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>>109905649
Even if that was true, it doesn't matter. It's trivial to pretend to be american to US corps.
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Not one day in this general without americans seething an other nations for some reason.
Why even?
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>>109905811
its ironic don't worry
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>>109905390
>- 2026-09-22 — Anthropic increases subscription plans's 5-hour limits by 20%
>- 2026-09-14 — Anthropic reduces subscription plans's weekly limits by 17%
what dario din
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>>109905390
Anyone have any tips for getting your app even seen, let alone downloaded? Got it on App Store, under my real name of course, but it’s only made a few impressions and 0 downloads. Made a new X account, TikTok, and Reddit account to promote it, cuz I don’t want my other ones associated with my real name, but am getting zero traction. Plus on Reddit it was removed right away by filters and the mods never messaged me back about reinstating it. Don’t really have money to buy ads, unless it’s only like ~$5-10, and Idk if they even have ad packages that low. Any pro tips, Bros?
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>>109905896
Yeah there's a massive oversupply and people use FEWER apps now. Web is also kinda dead with normies, but can get some attention in tech fields.

First what is your app, is there even any point to it?
You're gonna have to spend money on advertising, find where the niche you're targeting is (if any).
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>>109905896
gotta spend money to make money
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109905811
>not one day in this general without non-americans seething at superior chad americans for some reason
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>>109905923
>not quoting correctly
Butthurt. And no, you started it.
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>>109905896
>Anyone have any tips for getting your app even seen, let alone downloaded?
lol
app stores are like amazon now, it's pay to play and they squeeze all your margin on advertising
every random retard can now make halfway decent apps and you think you'll make a fortune by just shitting out a project in an afternoon?
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>>109905949
That's what vibesnails don't understand.
They're already obsolete.
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so what is ilya actually up to and why are there no leaks?
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Why even pay for a frontier sub at this point?
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>>109905896
the current meta is roblox games.
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>>109905896
Suppy and demand my nigga.
There's an oversupply of software these days, unless it's something novel and actually has a market you aren't making money.
The sad reality is this.
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>>109905975
They can actually code meaningful software.
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>>109905896
Get a following with free projects. Have to actually be useful.
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>>109905997
oversuppy of suppyware
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>>109905896
mention it to people who might like it
doubly so if they’re mid-tier famous
be prepared to send emails to journalists
also ask your clanker
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>>109905975
holy shit man they actually did it. whats the point of paying api prices again
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>>109905975
!!!
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>>109905975
I'm a simp for chinesium models but deepsneed just isn't comparable to the Good Shit models like opus or astra
horses for courses and all that
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>>109906096
I wouldn't call Astra good with how expensive it is compared to Opus.
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I hate Anthropic SAM SAVE US MAKE YOUR >>109906096
MODELS BETTER NOW
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>>109905915
It’s a productivity app. It has a cool dashboard, and it’s supposed to make it easy to track where you’re spending the most time, and even charts it.

>>109905918
>>109905949
I worked on it off and on for months, desu, but it’s the first vibecoding project I’ve taken on and I guess I’m not a ClaudeGod poweruser yet, lol.

>>109905976
I will have to do some research on that. Thanks fren.

>>109905997
I asked a few different AI’s and they said productivity software is a growing market. Plus, it’s something that helps me personally to keep track of my time; too much TV and Videogames, frfr.
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>>109906121
Opus is the better deal but Astra is still the superior (no, really) model. So is Fable, but that one is a true token muncher.
But then, even Sol is a fair bit better than Deepseek. Deepseek does win against Luna and is much cheaper due to cheap cache tho.
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>>109906142
Can you post the app?
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>>109905134
>/vcg/ we need to design something like an openworld
I come up with a name

>>109905976
unironically good advice
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https://ca3gamedev.itch.io/chicuelas-512

I made a new 100% game using AI.
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>>109906147
>Astra is still the superior (no, really) model
Bro you're tripping.
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>>109906142
>It’s a productivity app. It has a cool dashboard, and it’s supposed to make it easy to track where you’re spending the most time, and even charts it.
how unique
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>>109906010
This is a good idea, just trying to build a revenue stream. I guess I can be a bit impatient, lowkey.
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>>109906096
for programming deepseek is really all you need
unless you're making 3d models, doing research grade maths or can't read code, then a frontier sub is still worth it.
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>>109906030
No cap, Idk any people, especially nobody that’s any tier of famous. I could maybe ask my sister to give it a shout-out on her TikTok, lol. I think she has something like 10k followers??
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>>109906161
I opened it for a few seconds because of the cat.
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>>109905935
>larping he defines it's only quoting
>exposes his arrival after 2020
>thinks he tells me what that means
lol, lmao. if you think its only for quotes you're very fresh off the reddit/blusky boat young one.
lurk moar before you post things you dont know and understand. run along now the adults are posting.
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>>109906164
>I said faster.
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>>109906174
>for programming deepseek is really all you need
kek it's always the same shit
you go to lmg and they'll tell you that akhsually qwen 3.8 27b is all you need. those who don't even have 24gb vram will tell you that ahkshually gemma moe is just fine too. go to smartphone general and they'll tell you that ahkshually a midrange phone from 2023 is just as good. thinkpadders will swear that a $150 laptop with one broken hinge is ahkshually perfectly usable and you don't need more.
I have better things to do with my time than tard wrangle an inferior model when the good shit can be had for as little as $100/mo
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>>109906142
The market is heavily saturated, but there could be a niche. You could've started with some youtube videos promoting your "workflow" before you started doing stuff with this. I don't think you're gonna make money on this.
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>>109906201
i am willing to bet you don't get $100 of value out of your sub
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baby don't hurt me
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>>109906201
>comparing deepseek flash v4.1 to a $150 thinkpad with a broken hinge
lazy bait
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>>109906155
Idts Dawg, not on here. 4chan 3litehaxxorz will doxx and gangstalk me (Even more).

>>109906166
Real. That’s fair. But if Ford and Dodge were the only carmakers, we never would have gotten the Lambo and ‘Rarri.
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>>109906161
I'm too retarded to understand what's happening but looks very complex and indepth
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>>109906211
Not having to fuck around with random configs and ffmpeg / python / shell scripts manually is worth the $100 to me, so I'm pretty confident the value I get exceeds that.
>>109906223
>a $150 stinkpad with a broken hinge is a perfectly usable laptop that will get you most of the benefit of owning an actual computer, especially when used with external display.
>a cheapo deepseek flash is a perfectly usable though fairly low end LLM that will get you most of the benefit of a high end model, especially when used with an external orchestrator.
idk man, you undervalue the stinkpad I think
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>>109905975
how does that work? you sub to their go thing a month and get 60 bucks?
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>>109906252
>you sub to their go thing a month and get 60 bucks?
reverse onlyfans
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>>109906010
>>109906167
I add to the other anon's point. There are so many apps that work but are like "oh you used the app for 3mins better pay $29.99 per month to continue using it".
If you make good usable alternatives you're doing some fine work
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dario is cookin
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>>109906252
you get $60 of deepseek api usage by buying their $10 sub every month.
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>>109906209
Lightweight, I just can’t stand how everyone has to be a le streamer or le content creator to make money anymore. You’re probably right, though. About “coding in the open” like that, how do vibebros do that and keep their repo private so that it’s not just instantly copied? I guess that doesn’t even matter anymore, since frontier models could just reverse engineer and replicate it in a prompt or two anyway…
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we must pace the frontier!
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>>109906274
you get 60 bucks every month?
pretty cool
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>>109906273
kek why are niggas acting like opus is a lambo and sol is a crippled donkey
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>>109906273
>compare sonnet and luna
let's see if sonnet can stand against sol outside 3d shits
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>>109906296
they sum fruity niggas fr fr
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>>109906273
I'm tired of influencers polluting any actual opinion with useless noise bros
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>>109906308
i predict it will. sol 6 is just terra 6 anyway.
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>>109906281
>I just can’t stand how everyone has to be a le streamer or le content creator to make money anymore
No you don't need to be, it's just baffling anyone thinks a shitty timesheet app will magically start making money. I can spin up an app like that in about an hour, what value is there?
The skill requirement is zero and the barrier to entry is $25 (android) / $100 (apple) for app store access for a year. What in the world do you expect? Was there some drought of people dreaming about yet another timekeeping app that they'd go and seek yours?
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>>109906324
>sol 6 is just terra 6
wait what? they renamed it?
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>>109906311
this. worse the subhuman dogs read these dog dumb's hot take noise and go hue hue hue dis is da facts my favorite youtube whore said so. and much seal clapping from the dog dumbs happens.
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>>109906272
Mine has a pretty solid free tier, and an option to upgrade to premium for a one-time fee of 3 bucks. I don’t have a server or backend, so it’s not logging or selling your data. I can’t stand subscriptions and having to create an account for every-fucking-thing, so I designed it to not have those.
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>>109906324
I predict .5 point better at 4x cost
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>>109906332
no, but terra 6 would have been sol 5.6 tier, just with terra pricing. well... look at what sol 6 is. no capability improvement, just cheaper and more efficient.
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>>109906161
I like it. For a long time I've been playing with the idea of making a fallout type game where the places and quests are dynamically generated like that. A quest might be generated because the growth of a village is being suppressed by monsters nearby or whatever. You could also just dump resources into a town and make it grow, but then you might make the mayor or whatever a powerful guy who fucks you over in the end because you're a threat to his power over the others. He would basically give quests to npcs to kill you, after each failure the quest parameters grow so there's more npcs attacking you at the same time.
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>>109906308
kek are you implying luna is good at code
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>>109906324
I predict new Sagittarius A model mogging everything
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>>109906340
if opus 5.5 sipping usage while obliterating anything in it's path is anything to go off of, sonnet 5.5 is going to sip less usage than sol does. the only way i can see them nerfing these models is to nerf quota again. maybe another 17% cut.
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>>109906338
how do you check auth if you do not have a backend
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>>109906349
it's ok
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>copexturds already seething
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>>109905390
Another comfy day using American made S U P E R I N T E L L I G E N C E
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>>109906281
your thinking is in the 2010s. programming is cheap and democratized now so if you want to make money you have to think differently about your product. find some niche application that doesn’t depend on App/play Store discoverability, which requires you to talk to people in various industries. or build legitimately useful meta-tooling for AI. everything else has been thought of or can be copied
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>>109906361
copexturd claudekek jeetmini UNITE
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>>109906373
Saar where is Gemini 4 Poo???
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>>109906357
cmon now, luna is worse than deepseek and deepseek is the ultimate dirt cheap choice
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>>109906331
I just wanted to make something helpful and build a revenue stream. Even if I only get a handful of free users, having an actually-shipped app with users would be good on a resume.
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v4.1 flash > 5.3 flash >>>> 5.6 luna > 6 luna
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>>109906373
>no deepsneed
-1000 social credit
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>>109906347
>where the places and quests are dynamically generated like that
Randomly generated fetch quests, exactly what Real Gamers (tm) have been wanting all along. You should send your resume to the no mans sky company, or possibly bethesda
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niggas talkin bout copex while ignorin they capex
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>>109906356
Claude said the premium purchase is handled by their AppleID. I have one test purchase and the money came through legitly, and there’s a “clawback” that runs in the event of a refund. Idk, Claude said that stuff’s handled by Apple, I’m just a vibecoder.
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>>109906355
opus 5.5 has high intelligence per token so it can do hard tasks for cheap
meanwhile claude often been weaker than gpt at scaling intelligence with reasoning, their token output would explode at higher reasoning and harder tasks and would cost a lot
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>>109906392
>Even if I only get a handful of free users, having an actually-shipped app with users would be good on a resume.
make a frogfilter extension
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>>109906425
that makes sense if it's mobile only dw
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>>109906364
>or build legitimately useful
build legitimately useful anything
197th app that does $thing isn't going anywhere without a lot of marketing money, for obvious reasons. solve an actual problem.
I made an app that displayed all the local charging points in my area, with a reasonable guess about their state and historical prices, mostly because i live in a shithole where charging infra sucks. that got some users, because it solved a problem that people had and there weren't twenty different solutions for it already. i couldve pushed further with a shim for payments etc but that would be a pain so i just left it as is, but the point is - i didn't need to pay for marketing as i wasnt competing with anybody with money for marketing
if i can compete with you by pointing claude at your app and saying "1. describe this app, 2. ok now create an app from the description" you probably aren't going to get rich off of that
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>>109906194
I've been here since 2007, butthurt retard.
Your reading comprehension is garbage.
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>>109906364
You’re legit right, I gotta go back to the drawing board. I’m gonna leave my app up, I mean it’s already there, but gotta brainstorm my next project.
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>>109906457
you're*
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>>109906433
What is that?

>>109906436
Yep, it’s only for iPhone rn.
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>>109906462
You're*
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>>109906453
That’s a good idea, anon. Pretty sick you got some legit users. I will have to look for something where there’s real demand but not many existing solutions/competition, instead of the already-saturated field that I made one for.
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>>109906499
ur right
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>>109906402
That's all rpgs are. Stopping powderganger raids on goodsprings would give a lot more satisfaction if we could see that affect the town over time. Your reputation with the people of goodsprings would also make you competition to the leaders in town.
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>>109906392
don't give up brosef. it's your first shipped app, you are already ahead of 95%
I wanted to write down my advice but >>109906453 perfectly encapsulates it: Solve a real problem, make it good, people will recommend your software. Worked for the other anon, worked for me, several times
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109906457
awesome story fanfic anon, good for you. still after I showed up first year. now do larp more as you amuse me in your butt seethe and larp you're going to tell me what you think wrongly it is. anyways your cute claims of 2007 are nice but your posting style and lack of knowledge screams 2020+. run along now kid the adults are talking and your derailing with your tism and refusal to be wrong. I accept your concession in your attempts to lie about years you werent here.
you dont remember haley, werent here for the rise of pedobear, didnt witness the bumbles post in the fallout 3 and have no idea r9k was a rage board at one point nor here for year 1. run along now sport as any replies after are just you flailing around and breaking things in your butt rage you're some child and here after 2020 and larping you know things
>oh no the anon is not quoting directly and rewriting things and using it in other ways people do
>oh no trollkid is larping he was here in 2007 but has no idea this is more than a quote
lol, lmao. back to >>>/b/ you go underage. this isn't your reddit or blusky sport.
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>>109906453
>make app I wanted for myself
>release it on the store cause why not
>if it gains even a modicum of traction, cool
>if it, I still have an app I wanted
Vibenigs thinking it's some goldrush have zero idea about how cutthroat app store is. There have been entire outfits that do nothing but (manually!) clone apps that gain even a sliver of a traction, then strangle your own growth by paying for ads on your app's name / idea, 90% of the time there's nothing you could do about them. Those existed since... 2018 or so? So all manual work, a team of 4-5 people that just shit out app clones all day, with a hundred times your knowledge and experience on how to play the app store and fake grassroots marketing.
And that was before AI got the marginal cost of basic app development to be pretty much zero.
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>>109906529
Why this seethe? It's a fact that I've been here since 2007, and you sound like an election tourist. I can tell from your choicer of words, your incoherent seethe, and the fact that you do the passive aggressive faggot thing with not quoting/linking the post you reply to correctly.
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>>109906555
>t's a fact that I've been here since 2007
you spent 19 years of your life posting frog reaction images?
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>>109906576
No. Most older posters hate frogs because newfags flooded the site with frogposting.
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When Sonnet and Haiku 5.5 release you have to bake images of a new harem.
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>>109906592
yup. and fable must have BLACK AS NIGHT panties
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>>109906586
>Most older posters hate frogs
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>>109906601
If Trump isn't proof that the lizardmen running this simulation are just fucking with us, I don't know what is
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>>109906601
trump is desperately trying to make fetch happen, like elon with "x," but it won't happen
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sol low is... pretty damn competent.
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>>109906586
2007 is when newfags flooded the site and the internet as whole. I first came here in 2003 and love frogs.
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"seethe", "election tourist" (2020+ phrases), "I can tell from your choicer of words" (I can tell from your words kid but nice no u attempt sport), "incoherent seethe" (odd your seethe is not seethe but my replies and callouts are seethe and incoherent. strange), "passive aggressive" (larping how I talk based on your fragile state), "faggot", (fabricating my sexuality), "not quoting/linking the post you reply to correctly" (larping thats the only way it is used), I seeing a pattern from you and its comical. go away kid.
still larping my emotions anon. mark of a child for sure. your lies from 2007 are quaint but tedious. you sure are defensive anon. better get on topic and stop derailing over your lies and fantasy posts of years not here.
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>>109906601
>3 likes
Hi Donald.
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imagine seething when you could instead be worshipping astra-chan's thighs
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>>109906601
Forced meme.
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>>109906657
SMASH. I hate vibecoding but I'd call her queen and do push ups while she sits on my back
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>>109906586
>Most older posters hate frogs because
because they're old and jaded and hate that they're like 50 years old by now
frogs are based
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>>109906525
Thank you for the kind words, anon. I’m gonna keep at it 100%
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>>109906657
prompt???????????????
Or more??????????
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>>109906640
Doubt. If you were, you'd be anime aligned and would know about /a/'s frog hate.
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>>109906676
it's not mine. another chad made it, i just took it
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>>109906551
That’s hella unscrupulous, Bro. Maybe I should just bite the bullet and pay a little bit for some ads, hopefully it will gain some traction after that. Who knows?
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>>109906657
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>>109906679
Anime is gay and your appeals to consensus are gayer.
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claudefrauds absolutely fucking exposed lmfao
btw you can play the same game the benchmark uses on the site, it’s very simple
https://x.com/bradthomasbrown/status/2103528980183720099
>TL:DR
>Opus 5.5 worse than GTP-6 Astra AND GPT-6 Sol
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>>109906699
That's weird because 4chan started out as anime hobbyist website. Even the board software is a clone of a japanese site.
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>>109906676
that AIchad made some character sheets if you reverse search this on archive you probably find the astra one
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>>109906705
API prices are one thing, subscriptions are another.

Astra destroys my usage doing very little while Opus 5.5 is very generous on my sub limits and outperforms Astra on coding
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>>109906686
>Maybe I should just bite the bullet and pay a little bit for some ads, hopefully it will gain some traction after that
Anon I don't think you're getting what I'm saying at all.
There is no place for also-ran timekeeping app. All the space is already taken and if by some miracle you get some traction you'll be crowded out by the established players bidding on your app name.
I bought an ipad recently and wanted a note-taking app for handwritten notes. Searching on the app store there were dozens. Searching online there were like three names with non-zero name recognition. One is some VC funded slop, and two are made by a single author. Both were around for 5+ years, and had a fair amount of features, involving some real funky stuff like "record audio while taking notes you can play back later, great for lectures" or featuring a small built-in AI model that let you search for text in your handwriting. Point is, they were much more full-featured than a basic timekeeping app, and were well optimized because battery life.
The dozens of others had zero traction and will never get any traction because there just isn't any space for them, it's a solved problem, it's done. You're throwing money into the void.

You should probably spend some time researching how an app store works in current_year before trying to make money off of it.
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>>109906717
Astra-chan better.
Still, beautiful. GPT Image is so good at drawing anime
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>>109906705
Can I trust sol-6 with complex programming tasks?
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off topic trolls running their mental again and derailing the thread since they hate being wrong. another day ending in y with these tism abominations.
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>>109906717
So are we getting our own Sol clone on the Dev Day?
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>>109906727
subscriptions are a flat multiplier on top of api pricing are they not?
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>>109906750
How did you even generate that?
>>109906749
Is that famous Russian wench?
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>>109906742
can you engineer your project or task(s) so if Sol-6 fucks up, you’d know?
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>>109906754
Why in the world would you think that? Especially when they change week by week?
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>>109906715
>i have the hecking secret inside scoop from wikipedia
And it was all over the internet so I checked it out. It had anonymity and silly jokes so I kept checking it out over the years.
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>>109906768
>hecking
Why do you talk like an election tourist?
Man you must have hated it back then. It was all full of anime. /b/ even was called anime/random. I don't know if wikipedia tells you this, but there are archived screenshots you can check.
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>>109906768
You sound like a faggot and probably haven't even seen a fifty hitler post in your life
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>>109906756
I didn't make this
I think some anon pointed chatgpt to /vcg/ and told it to make astra meme
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>>109906727
Nobody pays for either with API prices, you aren’t making sense. Cope and seethe, claudefraud
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>>109906657
AWOOOGA
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>>109906763
a few threads ago someone posted the claude weekly limits and it seemed pretty constant (give or take 10%) for many months.
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>>109906786
copex cope.

I have a 20X OpenAI sub (with a cancelation scheduled because of Opus 5.5) and a $20 regular Claude Code sub.

I dare say I would get less Astra Max on the 20X account than Opus 5.5 Max on my 20 bucks anthropic sub
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>>109906801
>a few threads ago someone posted the claude weekly limits and it seemed pretty constant (give or take 10%) for many months.
proofs or bullshit
>>109906803
nah
you don't get a lot of astra on any sub, but it's not AS bad
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>>109906715
Anime used to be niche and cool. Now it's the most mainstream slop after marvel capeshit movies and the target demography is almost exclusively niggers and troons.
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>>109906814
naruto would beat yo yt ass fr fr no cap
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>>109906803
>>109906809
tards on both sides arguing for their favorite sub but not bringing any data.

a plot of *subscription cost* per task surely someone has one
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>>109906717
>average make 175 cm
Are we really just India general?
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>>109906816
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>>109906814
>niggers and trannies out of nowhere
>>>/gif/
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>copex
why do general schizos never hide their trait
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so has anyone(who actually follows wtf the bot is doing) actually experimented with 5.5?
I'm not sure if I wanna try switching from 4.8 yet. Last time I did, it lasted 2 prompts before I switched back
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>>109906814
See, you're clearly a subhuman.
Why were you mad again.
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>>109906819
only on social media everybody is 6ft+
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>>109906803
more claudefraud cope
if you want to move the goalposts from
>akchually, we didn’t want a SOTA model, we get more usage
then you immediately get dunked on and shrekt by Luna existing, which you get infinite usage from
Astra is a better model
Fucking Sol is a better model
Luna gives infinite usage.
Opus 5.5 is outclassed in every way, it doesn’t even win a tradeoff, it’s not on Pareto optimal in any dimension
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>>109906830
5.5 is universally loved, just try it.
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>>109906819
A 5'1 posted this
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>>109906830
it's not going to obliterate your usage. im on the $20 sub and it's putting in werk. what do you have to lose by giving it a shot?
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>>109906842
>5.5 is universally loved
so was fable5
popularity is a shit metric for anyone who cares and/or knows what they're doing
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>>109906838
>it’s not on Pareto optimal in any dimension
even on API prices, Opus 5.5 mogs Astra on pareto.
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Why is Astra so fucking lazy? Opus 5.5 will work non stop 24/7. Astra will just stop and wait for me to say something after working for a bit.
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>>109906830
It’s 3x as expensive as Sol and slower, and claudefrauds are in here arguing that Anthropic subscriptions are more subsidized than OpenAI, which is beyond delusional
Remember that Anthropic $200 subscriptions aren’t even 4x the $100 plan, only in 5h limits, not weekly, they’re only 2x in weekly limits
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>>109906866
I don't care about your faggy corpo wars
I just wanted to know if anyone tried putting it up against 4.8 in their workflow
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>>109906862
>artificial analysis
Oh yeah, the “benchmark” that says Gemini is toe to toe with astra and fable.
This is why a /vcg/ anon made their own benchmark, kek, keep your trash RL-maxxed bench to yourself
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>>109906865
Set a goal with Astra
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>>109906865
maybe because of the redditard threads saying they got 10k bills from astra
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the fact tibo ISN'T resetting to try keep hype vs claudes new release when the narrative is astra is too pricy can't be good news for their available compute
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>>109906879
Okay ill try that, I was originally trying to use Astra for coordination but it just stops.
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>>109906893
It's over for openai
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>>109906893
im gonna cumpute on ur face
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>>109906893
Its over for copen ai
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Opinions on Jev?
Seems like it could replace a large portion of a lot of codebases.
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>>109906893
not resetting shows confidence that they know 5.5 opus is junk and not worth it
all it has going for it is influencer produced social media video and song slop that probably was just handmade anyways
call us when it solves a millennium prize problem
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>>109906904
My name Jev
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Remember not to lie to your LLM. Don't say
>YOU JUST DELETED THE GIT
if it didn't do that
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>>109906875
>that says Gemini is toe to toe with astra and fable.
why can't you stop lying anon?
> claims Opus 5.5 is not pareto optimal in any dimension
> doesn't provide any source
> gets refuted with an actual pareto chart
minutes later:
> claims Gemini is on part with Fable and Astra on the pareto I posted
> gets proved wrong yet again

you're at least getting paid for this right?
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niggas talkin bout 5.5 but they be 5’5” !!
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>>109906910
I tell my LLM that I have a big penis and it should respect me.
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>>109906904
>Seems like it could replace a large portion of a lot of codebases.
wtf are you on about?
switching out if/else for an api call? are you retarded?
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>>109906895
It’s overtuned to try to not go too far without syncing with the prompter, but yeah, give it a goal and it’ll happily keep going
I noticed it too, it really likes stopping
I kinda like it, it makes goals more well defined
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>>109905134
>ok /vcg/ we need to design something that can soak up cheap tokens, like an open world or something
May I present you: Slurptopia
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>>109906916
Gemini 4 Pro will mog you all
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>>109906922
huh? not youd replace an entire fucking api with it dipshit
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>>109906916
>he’s posting the (((new))) bench that came out only after everyone trashed the fuck out of AA for their paid-for maxxed benches
You’re just gonna pretend that never happened, huh?
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>>109906926
sorry anon, Gemini 4 Pro got skipped, but we're already training Gemini 5 Pro Max and it will be ready in about 1 year!

but don't worry, here's Gemini 3.85 V1.244 build 3436-1 Q5
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>>109906893
he's already coping, they literally got nothing left to show, they lost
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>>109906904
sub second AI is powerful where needed
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>>109906940
It's over. You can calm down now.
Google doesn't need to compete.
Gemini Flash models are good.
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would you rather AI turn you into a paperclip to maximise paperclips in the world, or kill you because you might say a slur because it is trying to make the world safe
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>>109906932
>let's switch out our deterministic api with a nondeterministic magic 8ball
you really are a retard
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>>109906926
They already training Gemini 7 Pro, its just a break away civilization at this point and new models to public just doesnt make economical sense, sorry chuds, you lost.
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opus 5.5. the intelligence of fable, the autistic doggedness of sol.
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I'm using astra max to build some AI experiment right now
bet your opus can't do that, huh?
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>>109906958
>intelligence of Fable
chill
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>>109906967
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OK EVERYONE STOP AND POST A CHART OF THE CURRENT FRONTIER JEW MODELS
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>>109906958
yeah, it literally talks like Sol, or at least like Sol when i was using it at its peak. idk about it now
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>>109906969
Opus 5.5 was making less mistakes then fable. It is what it is. RSI is a wild thing? What did you think they meant by "slow down ai development"?
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>>109906979
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>>109906893
Yeah I'm probably out after this billing cycle it's just tiresome now how I can't get shit done compared to even my 20 buck Claude plan
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>>109906999
Checked, but what the shit is this graph
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>>109906781
Because everything including the frog is "election tourism" according to fembrained retards like you obsessed with consensus and authority. Your memes never triggered a single FBI press release, unlike the frog and anyone slightly interesting who was here before 2010.
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>>109906734
Yeah, I guess you’re right Bro. I just gotta find a proper niche and solve a problem there.
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>>109906958
>The autistic doggedness of Sol
I dunno about 5.6, but 6 is not autistically dogged about anything, that fucker will outsource or cut corners at any opportunity.
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>>109906979
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@grok tell these dorks that they is stupid
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>>109907001
Same. Buying Pro 5x for Astra was a mistake, I'm cancelling mine next month and upgrading Claude to Max, unless Tibo pulls off a reset at least once a week through the remainder of my sub period, which I highly doubt
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>>109907004
>he doesn't remember exploding van or football
Certified newfag retard.
>>109907004
>fembrained retards like you obsessed with consensus and authority
That's very much you with your random seething and social media induced bullshit. Like a hysteric woman.
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@grok draw them with Israeli flag in the background and ropes on their necks
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>>109907001
>>109907022
you're overdoing it shillbro
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>>109905658
His haircut is beyond the JUST meme haircut
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>>109907003
Guy who made the graph here. It is weird, isn’t it? Every other benchmark has some opaque “intelligence” or “score”.
I graphed tokens used over time, that graph is the runs that ended in success.
Here’s one with successes and failures.
I haven’t felt a need to invent a bullshit score axis yet.
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>>109905896
You gotta make YouTube videos. They have to be good, and a bit personal (use your own voice if you don't sound like an absolute tard and show your face for a few seconds if you're not ugly).
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>>109906161
Text is hard to read. I'm at 100% zoom on a 1080p screen on Windows/Chrome.
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>>109907052
> use your own voice if you don't sound like an absolute tard and show your face for a few seconds if you're not ugly

It’s over for me, anon, save yourself.
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openclaw... won?
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>>109907023
>he doesn't remember exploding van or football
You didn't make that happen. What the fuck is wrong with your brain?
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>>109907031
Different guy, and I'm just replying off observations. I may not upgrade Claude if 5.5 dips in quality next week, might try a succulent Chinese model



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