Mistral is clinically retarded. what do now eurobros?
Don't worry I'm sure the European Comission will decide on a Special Committee to study the possibility of a Funding Regime to be considered as a Directive to be approved by the EU Parliament after proper consultation with stakeholders and consultants. That will be 45% income tax + tip.
>>109907263Ooh, a tax break? Better get in quick.
>>109907244Euroniggers you mean, they’re not bros. They’re worthless unambitious losers.Europe will be completely vassalized within 10 years. AI will make them permanently behind. Americans will have enormous wealth and power, Europe will be broke and poor. Americans will be genetically enhanced and become objectively superior to worthless European genetic trash. Europe will be nothing more than the world’s only museum-themed brothel.
>>109907244dont give a fuck about mistral but im glad AI is showing the world how flawed iq tests are. Yes the massive LLMs that have the entire world's knowledge, are also trained on iq tests and are very good at it, much like everyone else who takes them to get a high score
>>109907244>>109907263The fuck does EU have to do with anything?
>>109907324Social media already made America super rich and Europe poor and unable to compete.Americans have it so good yet they complain all the time crying they "only" make 6 figures and it's not enough so they must vote Trump and bomb Iran.
>>109907334It should have been approached with caution from the beginning but people love tests that result in simple numbers that they can use to justify their worth. The high iq bragging community has been strangely quiet since AIs took over their gimmicky test
>>109907343Take a look at the time, this is americans seething
>>109907244what do local models get?
>>109907244i really fucking wish they would just give up and let this shit go, but no, we need retarded g*rman politicians kvetching about losing le ai race and wasting everyone's money and resources on it, just let the big boys have their fun with ayy eye>>109907324shalom
How do you even give an LLM an IQ test?
>>109907244Retarded is below 85, no? It looks like it's at 90. Also we clearly need better tests because the ones scoring like 150 are still dumbasses that will either go down an objectively wrong path, and then double down on it when you point out their error; or will go along with almost anything you say as a correction.
>>109907462hey chat gee pee tea which of the below goes in the ? box
>>109907324>US no longer Global Hegemon>US is now number 3 world economy>China don't neet to do anything to win>EU soon will make a turn towards China>US guarantees means nothing and nations sees itAI bubble goes pop and you all going back to potato diet.
>>109907543Europe isn’t being guaranteed anything because they’re no longer strong enough to care about lol
>>109907462manages to give human readable answer to three questions within five minute
>>109907534E
>>109907534Okay so here’s a question, is this genuine intelligence or is this is it just a big library that has the answer somewhere? I’m just skeptical because there’s no telling if the model just has IQ test answers in it somewhere, and this is assuming the LLM is totally offline, if it’s hooked up to the internet then any answers it gives are totally useless. I’ve been seeing this AI stuff for a long time but to date I haven’t seen anything that suggests these programs are capable of novel thought or invention, they just regurgitate things saved in the model or mix and match pieces, but they’re fundamentally incapable of doing something that isn’t within their model. A human can think of something they’ve never done before and perform tasks without having any prior knowledge of it, this is why an IQ test even works in the first place, if it was just trivia or math problems it wouldn’t mean anything.
>>109907462Any intelligence test is an "IQ test" if you score it that way.So they could feed the AI's text only intelligence tests and compare their scores against the average human score.
>>109907603It would be lame if the test+results were part of their training data.But I wouldn't be surprised if AI companies did exactly that to generate hype.But even if it's a brand new test not part of the training data the training does include loads of IQ tests and many questions will be very similar.
>>109907578I think you're right.>>109907603You could make something that generates new IQ test questions that it can't just look up, but they probably haven't done that. But even just prior knowledge of how the test works can affect results. Like that question seems to be testing whether you have the intuition to figure out that the squares lie on top of the circles, that the circles are static, and that any pattern that doesn't have 2 circles is just because squares are on top of the missing circles. If you already know the test does that, you'll solve it much faster than if you didn't.
>>109907263The European Parliament in a nutshellOr: How to produce Bureaucracy instead of Innovation
>>109907244bro is dumber than copilot lmaooo
Knowledge of raven matrices invalidates the results. This is a supremely retarded test.
>>109907244how the fuck is copilot so fucking shit? these guys have like GIGABUX they can literally buy new mexico and turn it into a datacenter
>>109907263>That will be 45% income tax + tip.You mean 65% [but no tips]
>>109907244You know that giving LLMs IQ test is just dumb? IQ tests were designed to test cognitive functions which LLMs simply lacking. Even if it will score maximum score it won't tell mean anything, just that LLM was trained to solve this kind of tasks.
>>109907324You mean jews?
>>109907324europe was vassalized since 1945>>109907414>americans seething about anything eu, but especially technology sectoryou do know that eu is literally high-tech desert? only widely recognizable ai company from eu is mistral and the model is fucking retarded and so are you>>109907543eu gonna go back to potato diet cuz no fertilizer cuz no LNG and no agriculture cuz no diesel for heavy farm equipment
>>109907543>>US no longer Global HegemonNonsense, they still got the US dollar and the western system is reliant on it. If the US Dollar crashes tomorrow, you will feel it really bad. And if the US really wanted to fuck with Europe they could. The EU already folded and trump won the trade war imagine an iran style war in the EU/europe or cuba style, the people in Europe are very weak minded they would kill their EU leaders to make the Americans stop.>>US is now number 3 world economyNot even close, however yes you have a K scaped economy you have the working poor and the elite but it's still a rich country.>>China don't neet to do anything to winBullshit, China is doing lots of stuff for their future. they have bricks pay and have lots of things they are going to build in-house gpus/cpus and ram so the US won't have the power over them.>>EU soon will make a turn towards ChinaIf the EU leaders weren't retarded, but no it's still Anti-China nonsense let me remind you that they recently added an hidden tax on Chinese products. >Free-Market deciding..Fuck that.>>US guarantees means nothing and nations sees itThe only correct statement.>AI bubble goes pop and you all going back to potato diet.Not even close they will do fine they just won't have the luxury they have now, they might be in the same situation as Europe where they can't invest that much. But that's assuming the bubble burst which will effect Europe as well and that's going to be the death nail what ever cope we have now will never happen, If AI won't burst The US and China will now be enslaving Europe, they would have insane leverage.>We are not going to use US/Chinese AIOkay then be fine having Africa over take the EU economically.
>>109907334IQ tests were never designed to measure intelligence, but instead to measure retardation. They are actually only meaningful very close to 100 in practice, but their point of being is to indicate (simple boolean) that someone is retarded.
>>109907647It has been repeatedly proven in every of these tests and benchmarks that the models have near perfect qualities in them but as soon as you give them a problem of comparable complexity introduced after training cutoff, they have near 0% success rate. In other words, the data is ALWAYS in the dataset. Also, nobody actually looks at the data internally.
>>109907263Don't forget how funding will get scrapped because otherwise farmers are going to literally flood Brussels streets with shit again if they don't get all the subsidies in the observably universe kek
>>109907244Note quite as mentally retarded as the people who think IQ tests are applicable to token guessers, where practice effects account for the entire score.
>>109907534I can’t do this dumb puzzle pictures but I was at the top of my year in uni doing maths. How the fuck does that work?
>>109909289Congrats, you finally realized math is for retards, as is chess.
eurobros will do nothing because USA, China, India, Russia, and a few other countries are polluting the planet so hard the entire human race will be gone in less than 100 years.
>>109907324Man you're in for a world of disappointment enjoy your mobile phone and mobile data courtesty of the Europeans. Stupid little man.
>>109909308But solving pictogram puzzles involving object permanence? That takes real smarts, right?
>>109907534>>109907578>>109907678You have to be very careful in designing such questions as to not introduce multiple "correct" answers. For example this one the pattern works and results in the same answer diagonally, row-wise and column-wise.
>>109907244The EU took all the gay shit from the US Democrats without the American money or ingenuity to make up for it
>>109907244Sell it to the 45 IQ Indian Hindu rape rats. It will seem like superintelligence to them.
>>109909700>For example this one the pattern works and results in the same answer diagonally, row-wise and column-wise.Or noticing that circles can only appear in the top middle and bottom left, and whenever there isn't a circle in one of those positions, there's a square. All but one choice has circles that aren't in those positions.
>>109909611Yes it does.
>>109909289These kind of puzzles are called Bongard problems, you just need to look for repeating patterns in the sub elements rather than trying to interpret the images in search of a deeper 'meaning', ie they are not substitution ciphers or an arithmetic system. They were designed in the 1970s to solve the problem of word/number/numeric puzzles being too culturally specific.Look at the symbols under the line, notice they're the same on each row. If you look at the columns, you see the square is moving one slot to the left as you go from top to bottom while the circle remains stationary. Now look at the top line and see the square moves one slot to the right as you go through each row, while thing stay fixed in each column.All Bongard problems work the same way, elements just shift position or rotate or go through color progressions on the rows and columns of each matrix. The basic skill is to catalog the number of variable elements and understand the periodicity of the variation. The harder ones have more elements and thus more of the 6 optional solutions look plausible.Now you know the trick it's pretty easy to get a high score with a little practice.
>>109912424>Bongard problemsMy bad, I misremembered and gave you the wrong name - Bongard problems are more about finding common elements between sets. Sorry about thathttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bongard_problem
>>109907244Why is copilot in there? It's not a model.
>>109908416two more weeks
>>109907324>americans will be genetically enhanced
>>109907244>giving an IQ test to llmswhat kind of retardation is that...
>>109909754Basically thisRegards who just want gibs but don’t have any money to get gibs
>>109907324Europe is going to be africa-tier this century
>>109907324tpbp.
>>109907244Mistral is white
>>109907324>mutt thinks living next to a data center with polluted water ruled by tech oligarchs in a surveillance state that hasn't been known for any worker rights before is considered "winning"Keep telling yourself that on the way to a FEMA camp after being branded a domestic terrorist for wrongthink and arrested by a Palantir Sibyl-esque crime prediction system.
>>109908416>EU bad because no AINext you're gonna cry about the GDPR
>>109907324Show me on the doll where europe hurt you
>>109907244>what do now eurobrosNothing. The EU has effectively killed its tech industry with regulations and a general retardation of the youth of EU nations.So it's over anyway. It's probably better to move places, while the band is still playing.
>>109916756IDK why Euros haven't gotten on the H1B wagon.>actually know how to program unlike jeets>are used to getting paid peanuts like jeetsWe could import Bjorn instead of Patel for the exact same price and have better software
>>109915738kek, nigger, the biggest IT company in europe is fucking SAP, arguably the only one that is this big. you can't make this shit up
>>109907263We don't tip in Europe.
>>109907543>fake money economies aren't absolutely in bed with each other and the collapse of one isn't the collapse of allthe globohomo is globo, my homo. I'm as eager for the end of the US world police ending as most thirdies are, but the idea that people aren't going to fuck each other over for profit isn't going to just disappear because the US exits stage left. Just ask Ea Nasir.
>>109907244>le eu no tech because le no ai LMAO. This is almost as dumb as when retards here were claiming tech is dead in Europe because it didn't have some faggot social media/advertisement companies like meta or google. Europe simply prefers to produce actual things of value (thats why it has centuries old companies) instead of jumping onto the next VC bandwagon bubble that will pop in a few years anyway. >>109917074Why would Euros want to live in a place with inferior amenities and living conditions? Literally the only reason to ever be in the US is to make money. But even that is gone now with your job market that's currently shitting its diapers. >t. green card holder
>>109908416>Europe WILL FREEZE TO DEATH >Europe WILL STARVE TO DEATH (this time for real trust me)>Europe WILL HAVE NO OIL (i swear this time it's really for real)Whats next in your government mandated anti-eu doomerism script, vatushka?
>>109907244Are these AI models geoblocked or something? There is literally nothing stopping you from using any of the available ones regardless of which region you're from. This graphic is pointless and retarded beyond belief.
>>109917074EU-Europe is turning into a shithole.America has been a shithole for all its existence.I'd rather go to East Asia, but I'm afraid of turning the place I have in mind into a shithole, so I don't."Diversity" - in the sense that it's used in today - is a bad thing that must be avoided at all cost.
Mistral will release a new model in a few weeks. If it's anywhere near as good as GLM I consider that a huge achievement.
>>109907244Europe has not been technologically relevant since WWII.
>>109920328Europe is where most whiteys live though.
Nobody invests in yuro companies. Even the likes of ASML have to survive on the bare minimum. ASML basically got government handouts and exceptions to the law so they could build a larger campus after they threatened to leave the country.>ASML has received a rare, exceptional nitrogen permit exemption from the Dutch province of North Brabant to build its new Brainport Industries Campus Noord expansion near Eindhoven Airport. This landmark decision allows the semiconductor giant to move forward with a massive expansion slated to accommodate up to 20,000 new employees, bypassing the strict environmental "nitrogen lock" (stikstofslot) that has stalled construction projects across the Netherlands.Europe is its worst own enemy.
>>109907263We don't tip in europe.
>>109917074The purpose of H1B visas isn't to get foreigners because the USA needs the expertise. The USA can pump out as many tech workers as it needs. The purpose of H1B visas is to artificially expand the labor pool with cheap third-world workers, to drive down wages. It exists because American companies don't want to pay market rate for labor, so they manipulated laws to allow them to drive down the cost of labor. There would be no reason to import Europeans, because they'd be just as expensive as Americans, and want a similar standard of living/similar treatment at work.
Mistral ~20 € / month is good enough for me and comes with everything required to larp as a modern software developer.
>>109920498255€ token limit for GLM5.3 and soon Mistral 4 Large is insane for just a ~15€ subscription fee.
>>109920349>The EU is Europeans' worst own enemy.FTFYI suppose Xi and Putin are worse, but they don't have remotely the impact of Leyen's EU on Europe.
>>109907244don't worry, the european union will just try to push more pointless regulation and that'll solve the problem
>>109907244What do you mean? That's just the average European IQ.
>>109920354>There would be no reason to import Europeans, because they'd be just as expensive as AmericansEuropeans are used to being paid low 5 figures
>>109907263that cuts both ways anon, means you can get royally fucked with unchecked power that you think works for your benefit but ends up culling you
>>109907263>>109920352europeans are too poor to tip
>>109920498>Mistral ~20 € / month is goodFor that price you could get Claude Code or Codex which are actual coding tools
>>109920693I tried Claude but it's just too American with all the small talk and shit. I don't want my computer to act like an extroverted human.
>>109920704it's called being fake. stupid people fall for it means you're getting more out of them by faking being nice. that's the american way. they find being honest as extremely offensive
>>109920716Americans are such lying grifters.
>>109917602>Why would Euros want to live in a place with inferior amenities and living conditions?I hope you are aware that the EU and European """leaders""" want to turn their countries into another US right? You know that's the plan, right?>>109917631>Whats next in your government mandated anti-eu doomerism script, vatushka?Yeah that's clear russian propaganda, the decay is slow not that fast. the """leaders""" will do the bare minimal to ensure that the ship doesn't collapse but at some point you have too many obstacles and it will happen.>>109920320>Mistral will release a new model in a few weeks. If it's anywhere near as good as GLM I consider that a huge achievement.Nah I doubt. But let's cross fingers.
>>109920676>Europeans are used to being paid low 5 figuresWillingness to do this will evaporate the second they see how expensive things are in the USA. You cannot have the same lifestyle in the US at low 5 figures as you could have in Europe.First contact with the horrifically dogshit American healthcare system will make this non-viable. The system is literally so bad that someone gunned down a health insurance executive, in public, in broad daylight, and 90% of the country cheered. The 10% who didn't are other economic parasites who are worried the same thing might happen to them.
>>109907324As an European, this is basically correct. It's not that we don't have talent or resources even, but in an environment that is more concerned about artistic paternalism than competitiveness, ambition is stillborn. If someone's intelligent and resourceful enough to create a startup and start training a model, they'd move the fuck out of Europe first and try to get into anywhere SF. I'd probably make more in the USA flipping burgers than in my retarded IT job here. We're artificially being curb stomped into third world and it's probably too late to change anything.
>>109920822>The system is literally so bad that someone gunned down a health insurance executive, in public, in broad daylight, and 90% of the country cheered. The 10% who didn't are other economic parasites who are worried the same thing might happen to them.
>>109907244IQ cannot be used to measure an artificial intelligence because IQ was made for humans. a computer program has inherent advantages and disadvantages compared to a human. chess algorithms were filtering grandmasters for decades before AI, but couldn't hold a conversation either. IQ is not knowledge but the capacity to process information, learn, and apply it accurately. AI can't count R in "strawberry"
>>109920793>the """leaders""" will do the bare minimal to ensure that the ship doesn't collapse but at some point you have too many obstacles and it will happen.Poland is more stable than any other country. Especially now with the downfall off PiS.
>>109920861Which part of that statement isn't true?
>>109920884>Poland is more stable than any other country.Here is another thing I have forgotten about Poland, Poland doesn't use the euro and that is another aspect why it's doing so well in comparison to all the other euro-zone countries.
>>109920963literally all of it. go back
>>109920965All Euro countries have positive GDP growth this year.
>>109920963>Which part of that statement isn't true?It's only a minority that was happy about.Vast majority didn't care, form what I heard about how it works in the US the healthcare system is not as dystopian as some make it out to be only the working poor have this issue.
>>109920498If you login with a university email you can get 1 year free of that one.It's very weak though.
>>109907263>45% income taxdude it's a tax avoidance scheme in europe desu
>>109920975>Germany has "grown" by 0.2% last year on track for 0.3% this year>All Euro countries have positive GDP growth this year.Not technically a lie but as Ushi would say misinformation nonetheless.
>>1099216301.1% growth this year actually.
No worries. All chinese models are open source, we can just copy them. There is no reason to give money to amurrifatties.
>>109907244Just import some more browns, on all the BBC programs they're great at IT work. More vibrant brown engineers and fewer boring whites, that's the future.
>>109908765They protested because the government wanted to ban fertilizers and seize land to build commie blocks for migrants to live on welfare in.
>>109907244We bow to China as we always do to stick it the Americans
>>109922076China would unironically be a better model for Europe than the USA
>>109907244Can we talk about how well Gemini 3.1 Pro is doing here? Am I reading that right, that it's not that far behind the likes of Claude and ChatGPT despite being a massively inferior model.That's either very fucking impressive, or it's cheating (like every other LLM)
>>109922110Indeed. We Europeans are basically just worthless insects either ways.
Is anything better on value than Deepseek Pro at this point?
>>109922179you are correct, tpu ai is built different. it just is retarded sometimes
>>109922179Sheer knowledge-wise Gemini 3.1 Pro was always very good and it lead the list for a long time. The "Gemini is so bad lmao" hate is quite recent and stems mainly from two things. Antigravity is the worst dogshit harness imaginable and that 3.1 Pro is rather dated in terms of agentic autism, it's simply not trained on many things more recent models are.
>>109922570https://openrouter.ai/xiaomi/mimo-v2.6-pro
>>109922069>try to burn down the city anytime you threaten to take away their government gibs>they're actually le trad and based and totally on our side ignore that refugee camps mysteriously continue to appear on what used to be (now sold) farmers landYeah sure you commie nigger now shut the fuck up and face the wall.
>>109907543>the euro's only fantasy is being vassalized by chinks instead of burgersthis is honestly just depressing
>>109907343Mistral is European. its dumb because of EU laws.
>>109922790google's models are STILL the best at sheer knowledge because google has all of youtube and other search engine infrastructure to train with meanwhile chatgpt is scraping searches off the fucking floor with bing and compensating by having a supergenius agentic model sift through them
>>109920981Healthcare in the US is fantastic if you have a reasonable amount of money. I had to see a podiatrist a couple weeks ago, booked a next-day appointment online for one within walking distance.Apparently in other countries you need to go on a crazy waitlist, even for borderline life-threatening shit
>>109924781>youtubeSo it has the most false information. Kek.
>>109907244We'll just... wait... we'll wait for major breakthroughs in model training, make the USA and China do all the work and then BAM, Le Chaton Fat 8B, 300 IQ even when quantized to 2 bit will drop. Yes, sir.
>>109924757Correct. But why?
Europa is part of America so there's no need to make models
>>109924796America also has the best private jets
>>109907603The whole point of an IQ test is they hand you these puzzles and you have to solve them in a fixed period of time as they get increasingly harder to figure out the rule for. Just solving one with an unlimited amount of time indicates approximately nothing.
>>109907244>picretarded and wrong
>>109925230Both circles are always in same placeIf square moves in same place as circle it will show squareIf you are looking horizontally the top square is moving to the rightIf you are looking vertically the bottom square is moving to the left
>>109907553rent free :P
>>109907244sorry for you have asked, I am not for hire
>>109907244>Mistral is clinically retarded.It should be marketed to black people, i think any other model is too smart for them
>>109920822
>>109907244Grok 4.7 is vastly more intelligent than Fable and Astra at serious code and rlectronics, basically STEM.
>>109907244>muse glimmer>130>me>134i doubt
>>109925667Sounds right. And the circle observation is all you really need since only 1 answer obeys that rule.
>>109907263Sorry, no money for that.The priority is support the most corrupt regime in mankind history, no matter if the economy of whole Europe is destroyed.
>>109920861That was too civilized, that thing deserved to be hacked into pieces, its skull cracked open like an egg.
>>109907244>can't multiply numbers>is high IQ somehowlmao please stop hahahahah lol
>>109907244who cares its not our problem we will just use the chinese models. Mutts still don't understand that the EU isn't a government entity its not supposed to be and mocking or posting about failed investments isnt helping.
>>109909289you're waaaaay overthinking it.it's E and the pattern is very simpleturn your brain off and it will make sense
>>109907244sue OpenAI for aiding/abetting terrorism by protecting and enforcing against criticism of Antifa, make millions of bucks for them forcing AI to feed defensive statements about DTO and hiding their crimes in the AI feed and trying to manipulate elections through misleading information. (they are acting as the publisher for having editorialized "safeguards" that will define the AI's behavior when it answers so they are responsible for the AI's output in legal theory) this will permanently nuke Sam Altman's ass for being a terrorist loving leftist jewtard.
>>109907244How does Microsoft own Open AI and had groundbreaking AIs like Sydney and Bing but Copilot is a literal drooling retard who can't do anything with ugliest UI ever?
>>109907263enjoy your Google©-sponsored cancer. that'll be $50k+tip.
>>109909345this is the only correct answer but they'll all tell you "pollution is fake o algo" even in their cancer deathbed.
>>109928498i want a job where i can keep it and talk about black people the way non-Americans talk about Americans.
>>109929210become a prison guard in Ohio.
>>109908608>If the US Dollar crashes tomorrow, you will feel it really bad.not what being/not being the global hegemon means, read more>>109928429>can't multiply numbersyes, that's exactly how llms work, deepseek only predicted the correct token sequence or created a .py script to calculate it, but it didn't calculate anything per-seretards really need to keep quiet on things they know nothing about
Bernie cap it at 140 I'm telling you
>>109907324Ok number 20.Wake me up when we can talk as equals.
>>109917074>IDK why Euros haven't gotten on the H1B wagon.Euros don't want to go to the US because they don't want to degrade their quality of life.We live better than you on average, even with less money in the bank. Refer to >>109930298If anything, I see many americans trying to live in Europe, and they are shitting up the place.
>>109930298Where is Japan?
Beats the gemmas so I love it.
>>109930568Slightly below the US.The work culture there is horrible.
>>109930611Yet Tokyo constantly ranks as one of the best cities in the world to live in. An interesting expose on how building great modern cities doesn't necessarily translate into people happiness if you still have a culture of crunch.
>>109907244South Korea shit out an LLM that's on par with Qwen3.8 27B after just six months of really trying. This is not some insurmountable gap. There is little to no moat with frontier LLMs.
>>109930528HDI is pretty meaningless once you get above 0.90Multiple US states have an HDI of 0.96 which would place them at number 3https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_Human_Development_Index_score
>>109930700The gap is time, compute, and marketing reach. I feel the average normie has never ever interacted with any of those models outside of maybe Gemini from google AI results so is completely oblivious to any incremental improvement on that index.
>>109930962>region X has a different HDI than region YNo shit. The same can be said about any country.>>109930686Yes, Tokyo might be great to live in, but not to work in.It suddenly doesn't look so good if you need to be a slave.
>>109907244First time I ever head about this "Manus" AI?
>>109907534>>109907578>>109924757
>>109907244The funniest is copilot.
>>109907462IQ tests are basically just pattern recognition tests.
>>109907244>>109932710kek this actually proves IQ tests are overhyped garbage
>>109907603it's just arc agi under a different name.
