Flip a coin

I bought i 7600xt because I make game and i want people to be able to play it.

>>109923426
>I would pay the extra
for still 16gb and marginally better raster

>>109923426
this connector is fine if you plug it in correctly. stop believing the scare stories of the shitposting internet. for every burnt connection there are a million that didnt.

>>109923426

Generally I would advice that, unless you have a very specific niche case that you are aware of beside gaming, go with AMD.

AMD GPU are more wonky yet, they often just need a bit more massaging to work. The actual issues gets solved, albeit slowly over time. Features as well tend to come, but at a lag of a few years.

Keep in mind that gaming is moving towards Linux, and AMD works better with Linux, and that stance also lends itself well to future hackery or even selling it if compute completely stagnates in the future. In that sense they are more futureproof, because as long as there are contributors there are drivers, which should compounds nicely with AI and compute stagnation. Then there is just self-respect and not getting cucked by tech overlords. AMD is the least worse in that regard. They also recently made a big investment into the software side, which might mean more stability going forward as they always were a magnitude smaller than Nvidia.

Of course, you should not be buying a GPU at all right now. And definitely should not buy everything in one go, as some categories are cheaper than usual if you're struggling financially. Stick with the universal parts and frameworks, for reuse and futureproofing. Nvidia for gaming is 95 % FOMO.

>>109923426
Fuck this cable. Imagine getting a new graphics card only to find out you dont have the current flavour of PSU cables. I looked through every box at home and work on a Friday. I had to order it and lost a full weekend of being a patrician.

Anyway, I am pretty happy with my 9070XT 32GB. I paid 1800€ including shipping and the fucking cable. I don't game so much anymore and 32Gb vram is a game changer for me, so i switched to amd. Cant yet recommend it bc I haven't even properly screwed in the PSU yet after raping it bc of cable

>>109923546
>this connector is fine if you plug it in correctly. stop believing the scare stories of the shitposting internet. for every burnt connection there are a million that didnt.
It's in my head though. I don't want it to fuck up and burn out.

>>109923682
My reasons for not going AMD:
- Unsure about card longevity after they stopped supporting 7900 cards
- Drivers are apparently still less stable than Nvidia's
- Not likely to hop to Linux yet, though it had crossed my mind. Will likely be on W11 LTSC.
- DLSS 5 actually looks kind of cool for emulators

But it's not definite. None of those are absolute deadstops to going AMD. I'm just leaning towards Nvidia right now.

I've had a PC with a 5600x and 3060Ti in it for 4 or 5 years and it's done me well enough. I want a PC that'll likely be decent for the next 5 or so years. If I were to go Nvidia, should I be looking at any specific PSU for 12 pin protections?

>>109923712
A 32GB 9070XT? Where from? Is this like an Aliexpress thing?

>>109923748
pro r9700
it's literally just a 9070xt with 32gb of vram

Never using that fucking connection.

>>109923426
nigger, save the £600 and buy a next gen card down the line, you're not going to die because you don't have access to slop filters for a year or two

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>>109923426
Imagine seeing a continuous stream of these connectors burnt to shit and almost burning someones house down, but somehow people think they won't have this problem. Amazing mental disconnection some people have.

Do yourself a favor and buy a video card for your gaming sessions that won't burn your house down. Gaming is not that important.

>>109923426
>>109923732
Don't be like those "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" guys. For the past two generations and especially for Blackwell, Nvidia has had significantly more driver issues.

>>109924170
>GPU runs a.i.
>GPU realizes the deception
>kills self and takes Frankenstein's home with him

>>109924170
>>109924440
>>109924451
I dunno lads. I'm just trying to get something that ticks all the boxes, you know?

you need a blackwell 6000

>>109924805
I do not.

At the moment I'm considering an MSI power supply with their GPU safeguard feature.

>concoct a build with good parts for future proofing
>$11K including monitor and mouse
This is completely asinine, right?

>>109924861
11k? What on? 5090s or something?

>>109924858
you do

>>109924885
9950X3D
5090
64 GB DDR5 CL30
X870E motherboard (can't remember model)
4 TB SSD
20 TB HDD (storage)
1700W PSU
PG32UCDM3 (OLED)
Phantom Spirit 120
Viper V4 Pro (the most "non gamer" looking mouse I could find that got good marks)
Fractal Design Define 7 XL (practically the only no glass, no RGB, full tower I could find)

>>109924927
You can save yourself $7k by getting a 5080 and a 2TB SSD instead.

>>109924936
I wanted the 5090 so I would never have to wonder, "can I run it" whenever a new game came out, at least for a while. The irony is I play mostly indie games. Maybe I'm just fucking autistic. How much "worse" is a 5090 than a 5080?

>>109924999
Obviously I meant how much worse is a 5080 compared to a 5090.

There is basically no real practical gain in output between a 12GB 3060 and a 16GB 5060Ti or 5080 for anything you will notice including LLM local moders ( that's just down to the model) and generative AI imaging or TTS or VTT, RAG or even vectorising and fuck all difference for gayming unless you are retarded enough to convince yourself that more than 70 FPS matters or that you can't live with 1080. I have owned all three and compared them eztensively. If they are on a DDR5 system with a dcent modern CPU in the 14th geb range it matters not a shit unless you are watching numbers on overlays for the hell of it. However they will run hotter for the same tasks and you wind up with potential melty cables on the 5080 and a stupid massive PSU.

>>109924805
>you need a blackwell 6000
asshattery
>>109923712
>32Gb vram is a game changer for me
more asshattery, if that was the case you would lready have two 16GB cards but the odds it makes fuck all difference to output are nil

I blame gayming youtube for this nonsensical vomit the land of fools and shills who live on steam overlays and want you to buy like and subscibe. If you have more than 8GB Vram (11,12,16) it's basically all the fucking same. If you just have to get a 5060TI 16GB OP, it does not have the melty cable issue but you won;t notice a ton of differhce from a 3060 12GB unless you go looking for it and there will be zero gain worth it including on local llms or gen AI. Those kind of leaps are behind us now. The main reason to get a 5060 ti 16gb is if you don't have a >8GB card already with CUDA.

>>109924999
>>109925018
About 33% weaker if we're judging 1440p gaming framerates.
But is that 33% worth the extra $6k markup? The 5090 is priced as a workstation card at this point, it only makes sense if you're using it for local AI or 3D rendering that you intend on making money back through a business.

>>109924927
OP here. I'm looking at something similar.

9800X3D
RTX 5080 Zotac
MSI X870 Tomahawk
MSI 1000W Platinum PSU
32GB DDR5 6000 CL30
Arctic III Pro cooler
Lian Li 216 (maybe 217)

Total is about £2700, minus 1000 towards GPU (total of about 1700 paid by me)

Already have:
5TB NVME
6TB HDD
1440p OLED
Mouse, keyboard, speakers, amp, headphones etc.

>>109923426
Get the Sapphire Pulse. The 9070 XT is a fantastic card for its price tag, the Pulse looks cool, AND it avoids the gay as fuck 12pin connector that causes meltdowns and fires.

>>109925089
>1440p gaming framerates.
o fuck right off with that nonsense for youtube cabbages

>>109925112
What's wrong with 1440? 4k is too taxing. Prefer the better framerate of 1440.

>>109925177
whatever I get nothing from it and like systems that run cool

>>109925184
I think 1080 is too low PPI for 27" personally.

Seriously though, I'm looking at >>109925098
Does anyone know of a better PSU for 5000 cards with better 12 pin protection?

>>109925194
MSI AI1300TS has per pin current detection with the MSI center software. Seasonics solution isn't available yet

>>109925211
Does the MSI MAG A1000PLS 1000W? It says it has their GPU Safeguard technology.

>>109925194
The 5060 TI 16GB does not have melty cable but regular cable and is fine if you fucking MUST. It's your money but down expect some hair raising gains going from a 12GB 3060 becaus ethey won;t be there unless you decide to fuck around watching FPS counts you can't detect by eye or need 20x readfing speed Vs 10x on t/s, you might gain 3-5 sec on image generation. Whoopie fucking doo.. YOu will be running the sdame games, the same LLMS and the same gen AI models just a bit hotter and a touch faster (not enough to practically matter). BTW neither are 32GB Vram setups worth the ffort, the gain in models is in practise marginal, so marginal it is not wortth a fuck.

>>109925247
I get you think it's a waste of money or whatnot. I'm being given 1k specifically towards a GPU. I don't get change from that 1k. It's use it or lose it. I can't do a lot of the things I used to enjoy because I got sick. I want to be able to play whatever game I want, running at its best.

I currently have an 8GB 3060Ti.

>>109925228
I think being able to see the pin current is exclusive to the ai1300ts and ai1600ts for now that released some months ago. They call it there safeguard+ I think and not only safeguard but I haven't checked

>>109925271
Damn, that PSU is like an extra £200. £350 vs £150 for the one I have selected at the moment. Might be a worthwhile investment, though.

>>109925247
>>109925083
Samefag. Nvidia et al never wanted you retarded faggots to sit up and realise this. YOU are not missing oput by not having a 5090. Nothing is much better with LLMs. Now you can make AI slop videos faster. Sigh. That get's old real fast. The machine is shit, the temps are retarded, the PSU is retarded, the cables melt.

>>109925281
Looking at the msi page the main difference seems to be that safeguard only has a buzzer peeping eventually shutting down while + has the MSI software on top.

>>109925281
>>109925340
Forgot the link sorry https://www.msi.com/blog/introducing-gpu-safeguard-advanced-gpu-protection-on-msi-next-gen-power-supplies
it can be interesting to see the per pin current and get a popup but on the other hand side MSI center sucks. The one with safeguard can be enough but you do you

>>109925340
>>109925367
Yeah I'm looking at these features, and SafeGuard+ seems really cool, but I'm only looking at a 5080. I reckon SafeGuard would be enough. It's just to intervene if something is going very wrong, which these cards can go very wrong, but the 5080 isn't the biggest offender for melting cables. The 4090 and 5090 seem like the type of cards you'd need for the SafeGuard+ thing.

I'd also read Seasonic were working on a similar technology, hence the question. Wasn't sure if FSP had come up with anything either - they're usually pretty belt and braces.

>>109925267
The 8GB sucks because it's not enough for models and context (note I kept saying a 3060 12GB DDR6 on DDR5 and PCI 4) but really a 5060 TI 16GB is probably the way to go for you.


You'll see yourself, anons think if only I had this GPU then this AI crap might get good when really it does not get much better in output and even the speed increase is just more than you care about anyway. 32GB models are not some new dawn, just the same shit. Me? I don't get 4K over 1080P even for modern gaymes and I don;t give a fuck once it's steadily over 60 FPS preferably in the 70s. For LLMs, when the T/S output is faster than you can read and it's shitting out paragraphs and pages for me, it really makes little difference, I don;t get a vast difference in image generation either and basically you will see most games on max settings on either too unless you need 4K 144.

The ONLY real use for high VRAM cards with 32GB is a wierd one, VR. Now I tried it and did not like it, I don;t like having that shit strapped to my face and it's not like there is a huge library of ultra compelling stuff but maybe meybe if that's your think then you can use 32GB. Fun fact most models will run teh same and output the same from a 1080TI 11GB > 3060 12GB DDR6 -> 5060TI 16GB there is a speed lift betwene the 1080TI and 3060 12GB and a smaller one to the 5060 TI 16GB. I hated having the 5080, hated the machine hated the temps it hit, hated the watts pulled by the i7-14700 and the temps. I don't proactively hate the 5060TI 16GB but it just is practically nil difference.

Years ago the leaps were massive and absolutely worth it. That's not been true for a while now (last 6 years)

>>109925383
I just wanna play games like Metro 2039 and Crimson Desert at high settings

>>109925381
Seasonic presented their optiguard some months ago and it's part of their prime enterprise lineup using Bluetooth and a monitor software but there is no release date yet.

>>109923546
This is true until you get to the 5090 drawing over 600 watts, then unless the load is perfectly balanced between those 6 wires, you are gonna have a bad time

>>109924999
>>109925018
Shoulda gotten the 4090 while you could, it's the best card honestly

>>109925447
Ah so they haven't brought that to market yet? So MSI have the best safeguards against these failures right now?

>>109923426
>>109925422
5080 is 20% stronger. Sometimes in new games. That means if crimson desert runs at 40fps on 97xt. Then it will be 48fps on the 5080. If that's worth €500. Then it is so.

Crimson desert (techpowerup) runs 57fps and 70fps avg at 4k ray traced on. I assume global illumination. If thats worth €500 to you... Well just remember the xbox X is 15% stronger than a ps5 but no one talks about that.

Crimson desert is the one game with FSR ray regeneration which in my eyes looks better than dlss4 ray reconstruction.. DLSS in general makes games look like they turned down your monitor sharpness setting to 0. Which is because they're all just TAA.

You are better off using that €500 towards games. That's like 9 full priced games. 25 games on discount.

>>109925664
As said, I don't get that money back. It's use it or lose it.

>>109925628
Asrock had something with thermal measurements but people reported it doesn't work. Asus had their special cable that can go up to 17A per pin at least on the GPU site but I'm a bit sceptical also no PSU site protection from what I get. I think cooler master had a special cable too but not sure. Wireview pro 2 as extra gadget if you I insist and want to see the ampere but the safeguard should cover you.

>>109925680
If you are actually op and just ignored the 500 in euros of games part. Then maybe you don't actually want a pc.

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>>109923426
take it from a 4090/5090 veteran chud

Buy the 5080
Don't use the 4 to 1 adapter that comes with your GPU
Don't buy MSI like the nigger fingers do
Don't rape the plug like the nigger finger do
Buy a Seasonic Platinum/Titanium PSU
Make sure it's the newest ATX 3.1 spec
Get a wireview for peace of mind

My pin currents are flat 7-8A @ 600W running DLSS5. Let the poorfags and zoomies cope and seethe.

>>109923426
get the 9070, amd works better on linux

>>109925722
My guy, you do not understand, I'm not being given 1k in cash, I'm being given 1k towards a GPU I want. If I ask for a £400 GPU, I don't then get given £600, I just get a £400 GPU.

>>109925714
WireView looks neat, but also looks like an additional point of failure. Think I'm best off aiming for a PSU with good safety features.

>>109925724
What's wrong with MSI? Do you mean GPU or PSU? It looks like the top right is an octopus connector, which are notoriously shit anyway.

>>109923426
Do you need a big GPU, what are you going to use it for?

>>109925680
You have zero value in a 5080 for this just get the 5060ti 16GB and be done. Focus oin getting 32GB of DDR5 as well. The whole machine will run cooler and you won't get crazy spikes in watts and due to that will likley last longer, that being said I could play crimson desert on a 3060 12GB and not give a shit as it would be fine (for me) You'll be chasing gains you will strain to notice between a 5080 and 5060 TI 16GB, in fact if I took away your overlays and left you playing the two I doubt you could choose one over the other in reality.what you absolutely do get with th 5080 is the potentially melty cable and 500+ watt surges and heat, Real downsides requiring a stupid psu.

>>109925422
>I just wanna play games like Metro 2039 and Crimson Desert at high settings

>>109925777
I really don't want a 5060Ti. That's below the minimum I was looking at.

>>109925773
Video games.

>>109925790
whatever you seem to have had your head fucked by watching retards on youtube and think you need a 2K GPU that draws enough watts to be a space heater and needs a basically dedicated PSU and cabling that carries a risk of melting and loosing the GPU to see the youtube socially approved right grass in a thrid person walking simulator. that you would not even notice unles some retard on youtube whined about it It's your life. You have to be 18 to post here.

>>109925832
Sorry anon, but why would I take a 5060Ti over a 9070XT? I can get a better GPU with the money offered to me.

>>109925847
yawn

>>109925856
As you say anon, you must be 18 to post here. It's time for you to leave.

As explained in OP, I lost my opportunity to do many of my hobbies. One of the ones I can still do, is video games. Someone is giving me £1k towards a GPU - not a cash offer. Why the fuck would I get a 5060Ti for £600? I wasn't even looking at a 5060Ti before I was offered money towards it.

>>109925762
MSI low-mid GPUs with the yellow plug are over represented in the reddit burnouts. You are right many of them octopus connectors. That Daniel Owen fag that had his 5090FE burn also used one despite being a reviewer that rapes connectors. MSI PSUs at the very high end might be okay. But I just stick with Seasonic who are at the top regarding reliability and make their own shit. I don't think they have had any PSUs burn yet. I ran 4090 and 5090 hard for years and they quietly chug away not missing a beat.

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>>109925832
>whatever you seem to have had your head fucked by watching retards on youtube and think you need a 2K GPU that draws enough watts to be a space heater and needs a basically dedicated PSU and cabling that carries a risk of melting and loosing the GPU to see the youtube socially approved right grass in a thrid person walking simulator. that you would not even notice unles some retard on youtube whined about it It's your life. You have to be 18 to post here.

Tell your father the internet said you were tarded and to stop giving you money to see special youtube approved grass on walking simulators. That's not technology, that's intellectual disability.

>>109925664
>You are better off using that €500 towards games. That's like 9 full priced games. 25 games on discount.

or you can just get games for free and keep the 500 invested in the 5080 that will keep its value over time. 9070XT will be worth half in 2 years

>>109923426
Build some top of the range shit and sit on it for a decade or just save money and make a shitbox but decent performer out of an old but not too old Xeon workstation lmao.
Good deals to be had if you take your time looking for them. Much more fun than having the latest and greatest as well because it will randomly shit the bed and you have to figure out what's wrong with it.
Genuinely the most fun I have had in this hobby is making and maintaining my shitbox Xeon pc. Last time I had brand new top spec hardware was back in haswell era and it just worked. Zero problems. Too predictable. No fun at all.

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>>109923426
save your shillings. it's going to be a cold winter

>>109925881
Huh, odd. I wasn't looking at an MSI GPU. I was looking at a Zotac GPU and an MSI PSU (with the SafeGuard feature), and was not planning on using an octopus cable at all. The place I'm looking at buying from doesn't seem to have many Seasonic PSUs in stock at all. They were always a go-to brand until they got very expensive.

>>109925790
5070 Ti is the ultimate sweet spot

What sort of resolution do you plan on gaming in?
1080p: 5060
1440p: 5070
4k: 5080
4k 120Hz: 5090
if you are super anal about either wanting to run everything in Ultra, then add a Ti to the end of the number.
If you want to run everything at 120Hz, jump up one tier.

That's about it.

>>109926869
1440 requires a blackwell 6000 actually

I've been using a pre-recall cablemod 3 8-pin to 12vhpwr on a 4080 set for 320-350 watts for over three years, recent vids got me curious, I heat probed all the connector cables and found nothing out of place.

I also dont understand the fears over the "octopus" cables. If the PSU and cables are Not Shit Quality it should not matter, and if anything 3 or 4 8pins should be less thermally stressful at the PSU side than a 12vhpwr to 12vhpwr
8 pins officially support 7 amps per pin for 250w and actual good cables have enough headroom to run 10-11 amps per pin with no problem. A 3x-to-1 should have no problem meeting the 600w spec + peak spikes.

>>109926869
You need a 4080 class card to reliably run 120FPS w/ DLSS w/ FG at 1080p.

>>109926886
I also wonder how many GPU burns may have at least partially been a result of people with OCD constantly moving shit around or replugging the card for whatever reason maybe excessive cleaning, or set their cables up wrong, or picked a case too small and the cable was wedged against the side panel.

>>109926886
for me the quad octopus caused much more coil whine than a native 12vhpwr cable. With that said using a cablemod and moddiy cable with 90 degree connector the former would hit 9.1A on a single pin using an astral 5090 and the latter was pretty well balanced however this can change depending on the terminal positions and how you otherwise bend the cables. I'm currently using Asus special cable that goes up to 8.8A on a single pin with the lowest being 6.8 but given that the ampere rises from 1 to 6 it's likely caused by some cable bending.

>>109926869
I have a 1440p 280hz OLED.

>>109926791
Nah. Maybe it was, but not when a 5070Ti costs 1k on its own. It's too close in raster to the 9070XT.

>>109926905
>>109928371
I actually wondered if it was the weight of the octopus cables pulling pins slightly out of place over time.

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>>109923426
>AMD
>broken drivers
good luck with that

>>109929179
only a blackwell 6000 can drive that but actually unironically.

>>109929217
How did they even manage that? Ugh.

>>109929262
I don't need the games to run at 280hz. I'm aiming for ~120.

just get the 5080

The 5090 is £5000 now, the 5080 and other cards are all just going to keep rising in price. I'm shocked it's not hit £1500 yet already.

If Metro 2039 is the goal you should know 4A engine is now very RT focused. Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition didn't even work on non-RT cards.

>>109923426
>WireGuard Pro
>spend an extra £150
What the fuck is that faggot Donenfeld doing to us? He said it was FLOSS

>>109930318
I ended up ordering the PC today. I went for the 5080.

The race was originally 9070XT vs 5070Ti, but the 5070Ti went up in price and became a non-factor compared to the 9070XT. Ultimately, I went for the 5080. The anon saying about retaining value had a good point. I've got a PSU with SafeGuard against burning issues to try and help too. Ended up with a slightly better CPU (9850X3D rather than 9800X3D because it was £15 difference.

>>109923426
I got 9070xt because here it is 25% cheaper over 5070Ti and almost 40% over 5080. It runs well. Nvidia should burn in hell for these prices.

>>109929179
>pulling pins slightly out of place over time.
I only remember some people reporting their MSI cables undoing themselves but the speculation here was that's because of the thermal expansion. I can't guarantee it but the octopus shouldn't be that heavy to undo itself especially if the safety clip is on the top but who knows.

5060Ti 12GB is the best value right now

>>109923426
>I'm favouring the 5080 over the 9070XT; I've had a few AMD GPUs in the past, and I've had issues with them. My Nvidia GPUs have worked fine, but I want to take sensible precautions against the melty connector.

Anon, the world has flipped over its head in the recent years. AMD GPUs nowadays are the safer option. No, seriously, they're cheaper, safer regarding power connectors, hell, even their drivers are more stable nowadays (for example, back in January Nwordia rolled out some shitty drivers the level of 2014 AMD, I'm not kidding). Now, shit happens on Lisa Su's side too, not gonna lie, but it's far, FAR less frequent. You just gotta monitor the driver situation and block updates if anything.

Also, the 12-pin connector is awful, and not only because of its thin wires. There's no load balancing in green GPUs anymore, not even in top ones. As a result, it's fine only for <300W cards, like 5070. 5080 is a no-go.

Tl;dr AMD and Nvidia swapped places but not the prices. Get the XFX card.

>>109932892
>>109932558
Already ordered the Zotac 5080.

>>109932904
Get a top-tier power supply and a good surge breaker then.

>>109933349
I ordered the MSI one and have surge protectors.

>>109923426
What kinds of games do you even want to play? at what resolution? at what settings?
There are some cheap ass GPUs (around 100$) sold on Ebay right now that can play Crysis 3 at 1080p at highest settings with 60fps average, if you're not into AAA slop then you don't really need more than that.

>>109924927
you are insane

>>109933431
Too expensive?

>>109932892
2014 AMD more like 2026 AMD cuz their shit is still fucking broken all the time, but nVidia has been catching up to their game (by becoming worse as well, it's all fucked) anyway facts

>>109933445
I have no issues with cost if it's actually worth it, however you're just throwing your money at the grinder, the funniest part is when Nvidia will release a new feature in few years that will force you to upgrade anyway, futureproofing is really not a thing anymore
I don't even know what kind of games even require you to have a 5090, most games are not that intensive, and the ones that are run poorly on the 5090 with highest settings its insane
Are you one of those people who simply wants to own a 5090 for prestige rather than gaming?

>>109933469
>Are you one of those people who simply wants to own a 5090 for prestige rather than gaming?
Not at all. I figured going with higher quality now would let me put off upgrading for longer.

>>109933489
Can you actually tell me what games you want to play? it sounds like you're picking a GPU before knowing what you actually want to run on it

>>109933469
20k is pocket change, just exit position and buy your toys, done

>>109933505
Mostly indies and older games.
>then why are you talking about buying a $5K GPU, that shit runs on granny's old laptop
But what if a really good modern game comes out that happens to have cutting edge graphics?

>>109923426
If you ever plan on using Linux, go with the AMD card.

>>109933401
>MSI
Ohnononono. Anon, you're going to get jewed by chinesium components. Seasonic makes all their components in house and Titanium-graded components will handle undervolting with no risk of failing if there's a small surge.

>>109923518
daveillzs did this and then he murdered the game and we cant play it anymore

>>109933785
The MSI PSU I've chosen has glowing reviews all round anon.

>>109932558
doesn't exist

>>109933582
>But what if a really good modern game comes out that happens to have cutting edge graphics?
We already reached the limit of good graphics in like 2014, you're really betting your money on 'what ifs'?

>>109933582
Bro I bought a 5080 Fe for msrp and have not played any modern slop on it.

Why do you people decide to buy now still?
Serious question, there were blaring alarm bells why did many of you not buy specific parts?
I built my PC over the course of a year and bought each key component over time during sales and during signifiers.

>>109934779
There are no sales anymore, might as well do it now before prices rise

>>109934797
I mean before that even now you can get some parts but you had 2 fucking years to prepare for gpu

>>109923426

Depends entirely on your use case.

For gaming/general computing, literally anything decent made in the last 10 years will be fine. GTX1080ti still runs every game at decent frames still. Don't be afraid to go AMD if you can get a deal on it. Gaytracing is a meme designed to eat up processing power for barely noticeable gains in visuals. DLSS looks like shit and is not worth the Nvidia tax. I've seen it on a 5090. Its cool for about 5 minutes, and then its just whatever.

For local AI/image gen, it has to be an Nvidia card. The more recent, the better. CUDA is very much still a thing, and you will need AT LEAST 16gb of VRAM to run any decent model at decent speeds.

Also, its not like local is automatically superior. Paid AI is heavily subsidized right now. If you don't need to run it locally for whatever reason, its much cheaper to just buy tokens than run it yourself. You can get Claude for $20/month. At current 5090 prices, you could use Claude for 20 years before you saw any savings, and that doesn't even include electricity or A/C to cool your gooner cave when that 5090 turns it into a sauna.