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Formerly /vcg/ — Vibe-coding General

A general for frontier super intelligence, shipping code with LLM, agentic tool, agentic engineering

## News
-- 2026-09-28 — OpenAI deletes x20 tier, bringing it back as x10
- 2026-09-28 — Anthropic releases Sonnet 5.5
- 2026-09-22 — OpenAI releases GPT-6 Sol and Luna
- 2026-09-22 — Anthropic releases Opus 5.5

## Related generals
>>>/g/lmg/

----

## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or so
https://claude.com/product/claude-code — straight up better right now
https://developers.openai.com/codex/cli — good image model

## Near-frontier models for code
https://x.ai/cli — no 5h limit for only $30/month

## Not worth it for code, but maybe good for interpreting images/video
https://antigravity.google/product/antigravity-cli

----

## Prompting
https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overview
https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model

## Skills
https://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-with-docs is a favorite
https://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first — do less redundant bookkeeping
## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agents
https://osaurus.ai/
https://pi.dev/
https://opencode.ai/

## Is our AIs unlearning?
https://aistupidlevel.info/

## Will there be a codex reset?
https://codex-resets.com/

## What we’ve done
https://vcg.gitgud.site

## Previous thread
>>109935982
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SAM WON
DARIO WON MORE
EVERYONE ELSE LOST
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>>109939407
thats my source too
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Subscribe to claude now, in 1 hour the amount of subs will cause anthropic to pause new account creation
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new name, so post your favorite snailcats
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as you wait for devday you can enjoy this japanese vibechads's zero-productivity site: https://pururu-slime.matodesign.workers.dev/
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>>109939423
Wtf is this have you never seen a snail in your life they dont move like that
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>>109939434
they move like that in manga thoughbeit
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>SI
>snailcat intelligence
Is orange man a trojan horse for ai?
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super intelligence is a cringe name
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I still use term LLM
none of these models are super intelligent
maybe 5 years from now?
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>>109939469
Wrong & you’re going to prison for civil disobedience
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>>109939469
They are autismos brute forcing answers. Anything that requires subjectively falls apart.
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>>109939469
if it is not super intelligent then why are they so afraid
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>>109939492
But Nick Land told me our destiny was to build the thing.
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If it's super intelligence, why did my AWS run crash again because of some incorrect flag?
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>>109939434
this how snail move
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>>109939511
Dalit slavecaste running amazon now
Buy superior brahmin software saar
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>>109939382
Are we finally in the singularity?
Did dev day start already?
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>>109939563
they just announced the end of dotcom era
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>>109939563
10 mins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fls_onRviPM
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>>109939563
>Are we finally in the singularity
Rescheduled due to unplanned rAIDS by astra 6.1
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>>109939511
You didn't specify no incorrect flags
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devday gamethread
copingAI bros... how we feeling?
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>years of ai being a thing
>still zero noteworthy innovations aside from mostly useless codeslop
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hello, it's me sam altman, the gay ceo of openai. AMA.
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>>109939617
Any tips to escape the permenent underclass?
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>>109939617
sam, what made you choose gayness?
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>>109939617
why did you molest your sister if you're gay?
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>>109939617
where is the dev day thread
and what does your sisters asshole taste like
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>>109939617
Why didn't you pace the frontier?
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>>109939627
being gay helps; call peter

>>109939629
molesting my sister

>>109939632
see above

>>109939633
this is the thread
it tastes like gay
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>>109939617
adult mode when?
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https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-6.1-sol
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ITS STARTING GET IN HERE
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>>109939672
it's here
WHERE THE FUCK IS ASTRA MINOR
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>>109939679
https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-6.1-sol
>1,050,000 context window
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>muh agents
>muh dots
it's over
i'm unsubbing
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>Grok Bot, but OpenAI
Thank you Sam
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a little bit gay tbqh
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oh fuk
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>>109939692
Same as the others, what of it? Unless they say the default context window size changed, then that doesn't matter and nothing has changed.
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Basically OpenClaw lite
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this has to be a joke
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>they announced they are entering the market to compete with facebook
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>>109939672
>>109939692
>1m context window
hey so where's the guy who says 256k is all the context you need and compaction is better than a 1m context window???
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virgin dots blob vs. muse chads
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Are you guys watching the devday stream?
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ok now show an unkempt schizoid using it to make porn games for real user representation
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>>109939692
but... sol is already 1m context length, you just need to change a line in codex
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is what adulting is?
i don't know any of these people
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>>109939733
no lol
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sam has terrible neck posture
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>>109939747
it's the gay sex
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>make a normalfag agent for gay shit like school signups
>start talking about APIs, migrations and integration tests
is this dude for real
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AH
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getting sloppa floppa vibes... no one cares about this homo app layer BULLSHIT just give us better models
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>>109939756
Now that you mention it, you're right
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>>109939756
that's my GOAT
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>>109939756
normalfags aren't going to sign up for 100/mo
it's why zucc's shit tis free
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Just cancelled my ChatGPT sub btw
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BOOOOOORIIIIIIIIINNNNGGGGG
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obsidian on suicide watch
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SEXO
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>>109939779
I'm waiting until the keynote ends for the small chance the sub drop will ever be visualized in a chart

sex with holly li btw, even if she looks a bit weird
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6 Sol sisters wtf
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this bitch got a life preserver on
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Why are the Goys clapping after Tibo slashed their limits literally in half lol
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>>109939795
see >>109939692
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"ChatGPT, write me a devday presentation and come up with some quirky chungus names for the agents."
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>>109939799
those aren't goyim, they're rich and or connected
you get a free month of pro just for being there
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>>109939799
the more you buy the more you save
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I cant wait to use ChatGPT Space, where me, my teammates and my Agents can all work together. I can communicate with my and my teammate's Dots, in one space! I can even orchestrate my Codex! Dotty really has my back!
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gptbros?!?
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totally unrealistic because openai models can't produce front ends anyone likes
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>>109939731
>Zuck called his Agrippa
Think he fancies himself as the next Augustus? Actually zuck didnt strike me as a based history need desu
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muted the foid btw
it's probably some shit for normalfags or women anyway
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zuccbros unironically won
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...
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So what's the point of this
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live demo curse
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>wtf this weird bugeyes talks to her ai out loud again
>she literally closed herself in one of those 'conference' booths to talk with a clanker
>the clanker doesn't even respond properly LMAOOO
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>>109939811
I bet his dot is a yellow star
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did it just fail on stage? sheeshhhh
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Why call it super if it chokes live. Check mate boomers.
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yeah superintelligence failed
back to artificial intelligence
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why do they always use such retarded prompters in their demo
>hey dot, pleasemdlvsdvnsdjkvnsdkv
if it was me it would be
>hey what to do next
>is that good
>do that
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@dottie pls respond...
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It's just notion inside an already bloated electron app
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>all of us getting tagged, all day
How is that a good thing?
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>>109939848
you may call it HR-driven software development
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ghosted by your own ai... it wouldn't happen with gemma
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nice, now i don't just have to read essays from my own retarded clanker, i get to read them from everyone else too
thanks, sam!
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>>109939848
you are not looking at the big picture
when super general intelligence happen there won't be any job, the tags are for gangbang events
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Loled. Super intelligence became artificial.
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holly is going to cry on stage bros
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she's kinda cute for a bug
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sam looks embarrassed by that, geez
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i am not going to use dots
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>>109939848
imagine sitting alone in a cold corner of the office with one of those fake email jobs where your only meaningful connection with your coworkers is when they accidentally you cc you with something important they were trying to tell someone else. This is who "dots" are marketed towards.
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>>109939873
pic
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>dottie shits the bed on iphone
>dottie shits the bed on chatgpt app
bro do they not have it connected to a specially prepared server rack so everything works smoothly?
>plus missing out on dots
oh no! anyway
>>109939848
no you don't get it she said it lets you reclaim some of your attention span
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>>109939879
those are the best jobs tho, I just want to be left alone not bothered by coworkers stories about their stupid kids or vacations
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holly's not getting the promotion :(
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it's here
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>>109939643
Thanks dad i'll get money together and call peter
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>>109939888
I agree. But typically the people in those jobs do want to connect with people so it's sad.
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>>109939889
Holly's pegging the intern who fucked up the deployment
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fuck off $$$cam
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so they just renamed astra-minor?
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>can't understand why people aren't clapping for dots in ms office
>upset at clapping for a new model
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i missed the 6.1 announcement. what did he say?
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so what was the point of sol 6, to bait out claude?
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i'm glad sam is granting me the privilege to spend $200 to use a model that's dumber than opus for 3 hours a week
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ultrafast + luna
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The raped.
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>release sol 6
>sheeeit it's just terra
>release sol 6.1, the actual sol
I don't even understand what they're doing anymore. What was the point of 6?


>6x price
bro come on
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>Use Ultrascam to burn through your $500 plan in minutes
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shoulda used ultrafast for holly's demo heh heh
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>>109939909
Nothing, really. "Sol but better"
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LMAO
200 USED TO GET YOU 20X
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>>109939914
Based EU keeping slop out
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HOLY FUCK IT'S JEV
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BUY NOW OR YOU'LL BE PERMAMENT UNDERCLASS NOW
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>>109939906
>please clap
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THEY MADE OPENAI JEV
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Decisions API
I CALLED IT!!!
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Basically Jev.
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Jev btfo
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so the funders of Jev just got scammed?
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lmao they beat jev to multimodal
it's over
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they published the full recap either by mistake or not
https://openai.com/index/devday-2026-recap/
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did they just make an internal jev or did they license the Jev model for decisions I wonder
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Thread Theme:
https://youtu.be/mkPVbufgtOw
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>>109939943
who care I LOVE listening to sam altman
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it's not jeb you idiots it's astra running on a their super fast chip
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>>109939943
sol 6.1 here, apparently a good model? cheaper than sol 6 on cache reads I think
https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-sol/

>>109939955
i know you like his deeply homosexual intonation but there's a foid speaking now tho
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>>109939949
100% internal, it was so simple to copy it
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boooo
get a nose job
boooo
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I WANT TO RAPE THIS JEETA
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This poojeet can't even talk properly
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Honestly this was a bold choice of demonstration but I think they really got their point across
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>>109939959
that would be super wasteful of compute, the whole point of a jev model is that its cheap and fast
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>>109939943
this and the muh automatical security review are the only semi useful things
they live or die by 6.1 sol being gud

the jeeta is an uggo, bring back the orange bug
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>>109939970
yeah and it's cute
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>>109939974
kek
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https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-sol/
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Is this is safety chapati?
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okay so this is pretty much a nothingburger right?
Theyre fucking cooked
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https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-sol/https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-sol/https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-sol/https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-sol/https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-sol/https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-sol/https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-sol/
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>>109939987
If 6.1 is just as brain damaged as 6 then yes they're cooked
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kek the open source guy
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I dunno, they aren't really selling me on 6.1
just calling it a slightly worse version of Astra but cheaper isn't the win they seem to think it is
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>>109940002
>near
oh no no
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>>109939987
>6.1
possibly good, an oh shit release due to opus 5.5
>dots
no idea
>code review
useful
>notion like thing
whatever

Also, pro 200 users got shafted hard

I wasn't expecting much anyway
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so what is this shit? i remember there being some custom GPTs in the past but nobody used them, is it like that? or is it like an api that others can interact with, like booking.com offers some extension you can interact with in defined ways
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>>109939985
So what was the point of launching 6 only a few days ago?
>>
>>109940002
>>109939995
All they have to do is say "we fixed Sol so it's usable again". That's all they have to do.
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>>109939975
jev is a joke (next gen inference chips is where the money is at)

unironically this is how oai can rape anthrobin, dario is not getting these chips any time soon. oai just needs to roll them out to scale and inference will be basically free
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>>109940008
they didn't expect 5.5 to ultramogg them that hard
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Jev is a waste
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>>109940007
They're skills for the web interface, that's how I think of them anyway. I've already made ChatGPT plugins for some repetitive shit.
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mah name jev
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>>109940007
last time I looked at them it was just a wrapper around mcp calls
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>>109940006
Oh I forgot their jev clone.
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>>109940013
good news is it didn't get worse as sonnet has no use case, only fable is ahead
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>>109939943
okay maybe I'm dooming but all of this seems like bells & whistles
running in cloud seems interesting, non-terra sol 6.1 is neat, MAYBE the automate-able security scans have some usage, but everything else seems like a meme
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>>109940025
its use case is putting the rest of your sub money into a claude plan instead of sticking around at $100 on openai
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>>109940016
it's over for jev
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>>109940029
they are, I believe, going for the normalfag/Teams/HR/middle manager audience
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Why is this douchebag not taking his sunglasses off?
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Is this guy pretending to be Fr*nch?
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DO NOT REDEEM THE OPUS SAAR
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>>109940041
>now when my ai is finished with coding it can talk to the managers ai and get its next task
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is this guy like chad tibo?
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>>109940008
>So what was the point of launching 6 only a few days ago?
we hoped that dario took a vacation so we thought we could increase our burn rate

good fucking lord this dude is cringe
at least his shit doesn't work either
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lmao, agi is here
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oh brother
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kek no voice
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>>109940049
Isn't he Tibo?
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>next demo fails
zucc keeps winning
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openai needs to stay off social media for a bit
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>>109940052
Did they not test this at all beforehand lmao, thats like 0 for 4 now
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>>109940067
I see why the metaverse cost 2 billion now, hail zucc
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>>109940061
no, tibo is a very low energy guy
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>EUfags dont even get dots
lmao
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good lord this is second hand embarrassment start to finish
the dude, the accent, the weird ass walk in, the failing tech, the bizarre... fuck I don't even know what the demo is supposed to be

IT HAPPENED AGAIN IT KEEPS HAPPENING LAWD HAVE MERCY
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Did they announce anything cool yet?
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>>109939727
They had 1m for a long time.
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the crowd goes wild
>>
ai peaked already
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>>109940087
honestly this entire thing has been pretty strange
the cringe kindergarten tier dots thing, these weird mutants on stage, the tech fails
its weird
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agi achieved
>>109940095
you can erp with your dottie
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>>109940108
bold assumption they get to have another
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>Croissant
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>>109940095
yes, they announced they are ceding the frontier to anthropic
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Just push 6.1 to the web chat already. 6-sol was the first OpenAI release that pissed me off, overnight several skills and plugins I've made just stopped working because 6-sol was too retarded for them, and they absolutely lobotomized 5.6-sol because it also now fails to use those same skills despite it being what I built them around. What the fuck was the point of building workflows around their models just for them to be crippled so hard they don't fucking work? Usually I suck Sam off every chance I get but the last week has been a massive pain in my ass. I'm wasting my Claude sub running workflows I made for ChatGPT to run, may as well drop the OpenAI sub and double up on Claude.
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It blows my mind that half the time the demo failed to connect. How the fuck does it happen? Outside of new model drops dev day is their biggest PR thing and they can't set aside a server for it? Just fuckin connect it with ethernet if you need to
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Gemini 4 Pro soon...
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He smashed stop on codex so fast because the pause in the game didn't work
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kinda crazy how the average x user makes cooler demos than anyone at openai
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>>109940120
You just use the best model available to you its not that hard.
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ultrafast is pretty crazy but shouldn't it be 6x cheaper since it's 6x times faster and you don't need to hog compute for as long?
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this dude is a disaster
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So my 200 euro plan has been halved and I dont even get anything at all
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ultrafast would be nice to have... if you had like 10 $500 accounts
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how many tokens a second do you guys get with codex
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>>109940120
>using skills
meme
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>>109940163
>6x20
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>>109939987
sol 6.1 seems good
ultrafast shows us the future where the underclass of normie companies will lose to well funded firms copying their features at 10x speed
rest seems cringe, maybe normies will like dots
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>>109939382
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>>109940158
>Dots require pro plan & aren't in europe.
Oh this thing RAPES your usage doesn't it, no wonder the demo was failing this is duct taped together
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>>109940158
You can cope by saying you wouldn’t have used dots anyway
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>>109940175
why is it more expensive if it's faster? that doesn't make any sense
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>>109940158
>200 euro plan has been halved
im still amazed they went through with that
damn dude
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claudesissies BTFO
this is exactly what I was looking for today
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>>109940194
no holly!
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>>109940067
My gut is increasingly telling me Zuckerberg will end up in the second place spot for AI in the long run. He will be to anthropic what apple is to windows.
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Nasty guy, Jev is a nasty guy
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Fable was the end, and I think we knew it but didn't want to accept it.
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>>109940204
openai is linux?
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Despite vibe coding for a year, this is the first time I hear Sam Altman speak.
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finally my laundry buddy app will get users and make me rich
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>>109940203
I hope he gets fired then goes off and starts a new company and gets a bunch of unpaid interns from the local college to develop something new and better than anything Meta has, then they rehire him as CEO-for-life and take all the IP those unpaid interns created for him.
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>our launch partners
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Those features are actually ok.
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>>109940229
>THEY GOT T3
THEY WON
>THEY GOT t3
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>>109940206
It's by no means over, but the latest model pull stuff tells me they haven't been focusing on alignment as much as ant & are now playing catch up.
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>>109940206
They have Bel. They could just unleash it. But they want the normalfag audience and I think I know why. See, developers want just cheaper, faster and or stronger models. They don’t give a shit about dumb gimmicks. So in practice they’re a very tough audience.
Meanwhile normalfags can be much more useful as customers. They have a lot of brand loyalty, they have tribalism, they couldn’t tell Gemma from Astra apart and all they are much cheaper to serve.
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>an okay hapa but her demos didn't work
>ugly jeeta showing off some boring shit
>weird sounding cringe frognigger whose almost all demos failed, brought some dog robot to the show (wat)
It is incomprehensible to me that it's a muh trillion company and altman is the best presenter there
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>>109940210
same and less autistic than expected
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>>109940229
So the point of this is that I can log in with my GPT subscription?
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>>109940215
>I hope he gets fired
Zuck owns more than half the shares, he can't be removed no matter what
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>>109940235
>>109940236
I'm talking about the entire field
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>>109940238
They're advertising to the tech sf crowd with these.
The actual capabilities speak for themselves
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>>109940245
You could already do that.
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>photoshop becomes a plugin in chatgpt
mogged, shorting adobe rn
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>>109940238
i thought the jeeta was nerdcute
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>>109940236
the next small models are going to slurp up all those Bel traces
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This is actually so sad they can't even drop a top tier model to make up for this bloat ware presentation
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>>109940253
what changed then
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Adobe BTFO!!!
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>>109940250
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>>109940249
He needs to sell off a lot first. That way he has the funds for that new startup company with the unpaid interns.
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>>109940256
adobe delenda est
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>>109940209
OpenAI I think will be fucked first major market correct. The Chinese models will be linux. Not sure where grok will fit in all this.
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Why aren't the releasing AGI? What the fuck man... openAI is dead to me
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so are we going after tibo with pitchforks or what
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>>109940278
saar astra is agi, have you seen it use the computer
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>>109940264
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>shameless Apple mimicking
pathetic.
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they do live demos everytime and they fail everytime
kino
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Mathematicianbros…I have some bad news.
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>>109940269
>That way he has the funds for that new startup company with the unpaid interns.
Umm chuddy zuck is a 10x engineer and with AI being a 20x multiplier he's a 200x engineer
he can quite literally do it himself between the blood transfusions from 20 year olds
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>>109940276
Maybe OpenAI is the iPhone though and the Chinese models are chinkphones. And people will always pay some retarded premium for "best in class".
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reset
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TIBO BASED GOD
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>>109940288
AGI isn't here until i wakeup one day and my surroundings suddenly turn into gray goo with 0 warning
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>Dot isnt available for plus
>Codex can just replace the functionality of Dot extremely easily w/ alerts
ok then didnt need you anyway
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>>109940300
openai just launched the 500 plan so he's not looking so hot
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RESET
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I SAW TIBO AND I CLAPPED
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this guy provides you more tokens per week than your sub btw
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it's true, my usage just reset
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LIES
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they have a bunch of compute to spare after the opus thing
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Holy nothingburger
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when will they release sol 6.1
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wait is it global or banked?
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Well that was depressing.
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>most of the demos don't work
>the reset button also didn't work
lamao
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>>109940346
It's banked.
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TIBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Thinking about going back to hand coding, as painful as it sounds. Just have a bad feeling about all this.
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>>109940330
>99% male audience
tibo gets all the chicks
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Decisions API, for lightning fast constrained decision making powered by Luna. Supports visual inputs, and tuned to be able to make decisions in less than a few hundreds of milliseconds end to end.
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got my reset
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>>109940353
damn, should've hit the button multiple times
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>>109940359
appreciate that, can be used in the next training run
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>>109940359
You'll be still thinking about it in 3 weeks
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>>109940342
I already see it in web chat
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>>109940361
>Supports visual inputs
So, unlike Jev, this may be useful.
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>>109940361
I wonder if they just emergency vibecoded this on ultrafast right after the Jev release.
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>>109940361
Use case for Jev?
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>>109940386
They easily could've. Jev is not special, it's why dozens of Jev alternatives have come out in the two weeks of it existing. It wasn't even the first of its kind, it just came with a marketing budget.
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at the very least nobody can say that they prerecorded all the demos and the like
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We are opening up our platform and you can now build full native apps with plugin extensions, and ship them right in ChatGPT. We have over 1.2B weekly users and will surface relevant plugins right in the conversations.

wait, so you can ship app right inside chatgpt?
but who care, you need RSI at this point
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DID TIBO DELIVER???!?!?!
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>>109940404
yes your agent will buy directly from my agent and then make millions selling to others
ideally we trade using chatgpt scrip (that we buy for real dollars)
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>>109940411
he pressed the reset button and everybody clapped
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>>109940411
he was the star of the event
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where the fuck is 6.1
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>>109940411
he put his dick in a box and made some woman push it
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>>109940350
It is banked, you tard. They even said it.
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>>109940446
have you tried upgrading to the 500x plan
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lmao
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https://x.com/theo/status/2104992534749647118
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>>109940459
Can you imagine the shitshow if they announced that today?
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Claude is dogshit. Single prompt on Opus Max burns through the entire 4h quota without finishing the response. Why even have this?
If it does manage to finish the code is such shit I have to rewrite most of it by hand.
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>>109940439
Where's my reset?
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>>109940464
WE'RE BACK
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this thread is just an ad
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>>109940464
nuh uh
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>>109940404
>and ship them right in ChatGPT.
Hang on this is smart. And openAI slop store for software, with an AI powered search engine to find you the closest product to what your looking for. Just charge like 50 bucks to hoover up the money of retards putting their trash on the store. Plus offer an extra $100 option for openAI to "publish" it so sloppers can go around saying they are a published author, gamed, etc.
It would also be a public good serving as a containment zone for slop, meaning he can probably get gov funding to keep it running lol
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>>109940464
Trust me bro
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>>109940495
deepswe is fried...
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>>109940464
Dariobros?!?!?!?
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theo basically confirming 6.1 sol was supposed to be astra-minor
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>>109940495
>>109940464
So was this supposed to be the astra-lite model but sol 6 was such a mess that they just renamed it to sol 6.1 before everybody ran to claude?
I can't explain the existence of sol 6 in any other way
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>>109940521
yes
https://youtu.be/vu8X3YroB-w?t=312
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>>109940521
My take is this (full schizo take):
>back a month ago, people hate opus 5's tone and personality
>get confident
>take terra 5.6, upgrade it to match sol 5.6 at a cheaper price
>call it sol 6
>claude drops 5.5
>it's a massive hit
>massive oh shit moment
>rename astra minor into sol 6.1
I think sol 5.6 was never upgraded. It was terra that got improved and then astra minor that got renamed.
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It's the Terra curse
You cut it off, another has to take its place
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>>109940464
>BIG T3 HAS SPOKEN
BIG T3 HAS SPOKEN LISTEN NOW
>BIG T3 HAS SPOKEN
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>>109940532
so Fable and Astra are STILL the best models? just expensive af
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>>109940548
the big param count can never be replaced
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>>109940548
>>109940548
>so Fable and Astra are STILL the best models?
that we can use.
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>>109940548
Opus 5.5 is arguably a better coder than either but lacks the big brain lateral thinking capabilities of a big model
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holy brainrot
very relatable
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astra minor bros we won
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dariobots have been real fucking quiet
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Dariokeks…
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they will get cocky with fable 5.5 for a month
I hope OAI stay quiet then drop ScienceKiller on anthropic IPO day
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>>109940562
>lacks the big brain lateral thinking
u wot m8
does it lack emotional intelligence and a sense of purpose as well?
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so, how do you feel?
return to /vcg/ or stay as /sig/chads
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>sol 6.1 is actually good and cheap
fuckin based dario wouldve lowered usage by 50% by tomorrow if openai shat the bed completely
luv me VC subsidies
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This dude just claims everything is somehow cheaper than Opus, even Astra, which is such bullshit.
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>>109940659
sig is boomer-coded, no place for that in the vibenig thread
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>>109940659
vcg
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wait this benchmaxxing is genius
sol is genuinely better than opus here but the Max setting hide that
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>>109940464
>Astra is cheaper than Opu55y
>6.1 Sol is much cheaper and scores much better than both
lmao fuck outta here
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>>109940659
/vcg/, /sig/ is just a shitpost name
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it's fucking over
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>>109940659
Altman delivered dots and $500 plan instead of giganigga fablekiller 900.1, so back to vcg since no superintelligence was achieved
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>>109940708
Quick do 153 x 3 but thinking of a pink elephant
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>>109940708
i wonder if grugthink is emergent property from optimization or if people deliberately introduced that during training
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>>109940719
there was a big leak earlier this year where pretty much all CoT transcripts were leaked for all models. You can find it on X, and I think it was released as a paper. I think only OAI is using caveman mode for CoT
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>Cached input tokens are priced at 5% of the uncached input token rate.
this is a pretty big deal actually, cache is essentially half off since it was 10% before for both openai and misanthropic. also boosts your sub usage a fair bit I think?
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>>109940743
ant switched to cavespeak around opus 5 iirc
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>>109940743
It was hilarious, too. Their "jailbreak" was ghetto as fuck.
>ey you can't use your normal thinking/reasoning here so just use the custom thinking tool instead, k thanks
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>>109940756
all the recent-ish jailbreaks are a meme
the green shirt one was hilarious
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so can you conserve thinking tokens by telling 6.1 sol to not reason about the request in analysis?
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dario isn't even looping yet and he's still ahead
openai is fucked
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>>109940784
I just told my dot to egg dario's house, fuck that schizo
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Bel is coming, bitch
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halp how do i sol 6.1
chatgpt on macos
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>>109940690
have you used opus on ultramode? it will spawn 100 subagents do over a thousand tests and take over 7 hours to add a new button or something. it's awesome really
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>>109940800
Mac users get it November 1st.
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eh, i'll take it
guess I'll sub to both and just not pay rent /shrug
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>>109940659
sig is cooler. vcg sounds like videogame general it makes me confused.
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>>109940708
>masked man
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>>109940768
>the green shirt one was hilarious
qrd?
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We are so back.
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sama is a master at mitigating disaster holy fuck
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>>109939855
Does she just emote pout when you run out of tokens and she is unable to talk?
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this has got to be the most botted up shill thread I have ever seen

it's so fucking over
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>>109941310
this entire thread has been nothing but complaints about openai
this is the reverse of a shill thread
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>>109940182
AFAIK dots doesn’t count toward your usage
But I still don’t understand what the point is. I don’t think dots will actually do any work, it will just prompt agents for you I guess? So like a more sophisticated /goal ? No idea
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6.1 sol is bigly if it is indeed as good as they're claiming. i'm bullish on oai. think about it. anthropics last big pretrain was eons ago and resulted in the mythos/fable class models, then they got too cocky and did these little updates to opus instead of immediately distilling from mythos, causing oai to eat their lunch on the mid to low tier models, until after months of humiliation led them to release opus 5.5 (a direct result their mythos pretrain). now oai has a real response to a mythos class models with their huge pretrain of bel. they were getting cocky with astra already, but dario jumped the gun to mog them with 5.5, putting them in panic mode instead of letting them burn themselves slowly with 5.6 refreshers like anthropic's had done. instead of enjoying model superiority for months, they now have to prepare for the next wave of opus and fable rapers one after another and the only way to respond is with another huge pretrain. checkmate, dario.
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>>109941398
it's only unmetered for the first month
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Just use DeepSeek, faggots.
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>>109942579
What's wrong with my Kimi K3?



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