Whats your favorite CRT?
My favorite Cartoon Retard Theory is that you're all pedophiles.
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Anything with a flat screen and anti-glare filter on it. I don't remember meeting a CRT I didn't like. Perhaps an old TV I used with my N64 wasn't so great compared to the TV my parents watched in the living room.
>>109945336I picked up a nice modern CRT for free that's in storage at my parents for retro gaming but to be honest I don't miss CRTs at all, I like the feeling of a nice flat panel, not having to adjust screen geometry and that feeling of watching the picture behind a glass panel. Early LCDs were trash and I waited until 2011 to buy one but a modern 1440p 144hz is way better than any CRT ever was
>>109945336a dead one thrown into a dumpster
>>109946193i picked up a 19" crt monitor from facebook marketplace just a couple days ago. i wouldn't use one as my main monitor since lcds are sharper and more comfortable to look at for long periods of time with static content, but for playing the occasional game on nothing beats a crt for me.i picked it up the same day it was listed. the lady was surprised how much they were worth (i offered a pretty low amount and she agreed if i picked it up the same day).i can't deny there's a nostalgia component to it. i grew up on crts and the majority of my time playing games was with crts, which includes all my childhood and teenage years. i didn't get an lcd monitor until i was 20, and only really because i moved and all you could buy then was lcd's.>modern 1440p 144hzlol i've run a crt monitor as old as 1996 at 160Hz
Superwide amber CRT!
>>109946317>at 160Hzyes but not a 1440p and not on a 27" screen. I'm 48 so trust me I spent enough time on CRTs for a lifetime.
>>109946347you're right, it was 800i on a 13" screen, but it's still funny to me to know that "high" refresh rate is absolutely not a new thing
Baby duck tech, you're retarded by living 20 years in the past.
>>109945336My favorite Critical Race Theory is when black women say that I owe them sex
>>109946371https://youtu.be/BGrfhsxxmdE
>>109946343>GrammarCheck Iai slop
>>109946343>officially licensed tetris>on an ultrawide displayBrev.
>>109945336the one that i can own!!Iiyama Vision Master Pro 510 (A201HT)
>>109945336GDM-F520
>>109946317since i'm drunk and nobody else is posting, i'll add;i brought my t400 to do some basic tests on the crt before i bought it (purity, convergence) since it has a vga output, and it actually kernel panicked as i was switching modes. first time i've ever seen the new systemd "bsod" despite having been implemented for 2.5 years. the lady said "that's an angry looking linux", which took me by surprise, considering i was picking this up from a house on farmland pretty far from anywhere and she was probably in her early 40s. maybe linux is more known than i imagined.first time i've ever kernel panicked on the t400 as well and i've owned it over 10 years now. i suppose maintenance for the drivers for such hardware is getting a bit thin these days. i even had to switch to "mesa-amber" recently, a branch of mesa for practically unsupported video chips. not much life left in it as far as running up to date software goes it seems.
>>109947499Strange, I did something similar using my T60 (ATI) 3 years ago and never had any problems.Maybe she recognized Tux, but this reminds me of when Munich investigated their complaints about LiMux, only to find out they were actually using XP. Some people think anything that's not the current Windows = Linux.It's Wednesday, so please take it easy with the drinking.
>>109948798she absolutely recognised tux, it's the only thing that could have been recognised. given the positioning of the laptop and monitor and how it was displayed, only the top left portion of the "bsod" was visible (on the crt, the laptop was facing away from her), so there was no hint it was linux outside of the ascii tux. unless she knew of the qrcode bsod, i suppose, we talked very briefly as i did my tests and she said she was surprised that crt monitors had become sought after. i'm not social at all so it's quite possible she knew more than i'd have picked up on.>Some people think anything that's not the current Windows = Linux.didn't consider that, but she didn't say a thing until the bsod happened. command line login and all
>>109948932>>109948798underestimating old people i see
>>109947476the one you use a budget mitsubishi over as a "beater" because its so unreliable?
>>109946918Ayy I have the 454 (HM903DT)
>>109945336None. They're shit. They were shit back then and still shit now. Dumbass zoomers who weren't even alive when we had to use those shitty monitors, larping nostalgia is give me aids.
have one of these next to my desk, it's pretty comfy for watching episodes of TNGwas manufactured late enough that even though it was a cheap tv for kids rooms or whatever, the picture is reasonably sharpalso could technically receive broadcast tv if I wanted to watch 200 ads for politicians and boner pills or whatever
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>>109951884Cute kot
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>>109945336This flat KDS one. It's the biggest monitor I have and does 100hz without CRU (linux + too lazy to mess with doing it on xorg/wayland ) I also like all the easy picture adjustments vs a tv. I do like rounded screens much more but the only crt monitors I have besides this are Dell e771a and acer 54e which have inferior adjustments and refresh rates.
>>109951693yes i love larping and i love crts and i don't care about your angryness, you old fuck
>>109950816no, she's about my age, it wasn't surprising because of her age or whatever, just that linux isn't well-known in general
>>109952754The real modern world is fake and gay anyways might as well larpI enjoy older arcade games and they do look and play best on crts, its as simple as that for me
>>109951960I still have the same KDS monitor I originally bought off Amazon in 2004.
>>109951068Not reliable either
>>109955993sadly true.why did you stick with that bottom barrel mitsu without service menu anyways?I got the 2040u in OP pic this week by trading a 200GS for itNF Diamondtrons are the best
what went wrong?
>>109956094your mother drank during pregnancy sed shill retard
Good night sweet prince. Didn't get around a repair attempt yet even though it's been I think two years at this point, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
>>109956061>why did you stick withI have an F520 do you need remindingI just haven't had much time to use any of my CRTs past couple years
>>109956157>I have an F520 do you need remindingThat you do not use except for a few LARP pics for 4chan
>>109956124rare>>109956157But you havent experienced true NF performance, how can you make a real judgement?All of my same or worse on papers mitsus are superior to sony in practice, I dont see why this wouldnt apply to the F520 aswellMy 20X0U tubed Mitsubishis are all incredibly bright and sharper then my G500s, and my .28 dotpitch 91txm is ALOT sharper then my .25 dot pitch 500PS sonySony tubes just bloom earlier (thus rendering the entire point of having a tighter pitch in the first place useless)>>109956219its always been about that because in real usage the difference between a 21" Dynaflat, a 22" Diamondtron and a 21" Trinitron is nearly 0I want a 21" Dynaflat shadow mask, shadow masks are neat are dynaflats may well be the best
>>109956219I mean that alone has been well worth it, it's adorable how endlessly both of you can seethe about it>>109956239>(thus rendering the entire point of having a tighter pitch in the first place uselessYet actual TVL measurements prove all of your nonsense to be just incoherent cope
>>109956409>I mean that alone has been well worth it, it's adorable how endlessly both of you can seethe about itNeither of us has every cared, we know plenty of other people with F520s and none of them hail it as some kind of godlike display >Yet actual TVL measurements prove all of your nonsense to be just incoherent copeProvide these measurements, along with the exact brightness the trinitron was calibrated too and the way you measured.Not that I particularly care if the F520 is actually 5% better or what, but it would be really funny if it turns out its worse then a .24 NF Diamondtron in real world performance at 100 nits
For example, new 2040u is out of the box sharper then G500 after hours of focus calibration and windas and everythingIts just funny how hard mitsubishi tubes mog Trinitron in real world performanceEven 30 thousand hour Diamondtron NF I have is sharper and brighter then G500, and I had multipleIf you want to glaze sony, glaze them for the vita because that things is a perfect handheld
>>109945336I don't have a favorite, the only ones I have are whatever CRTs are still around from back when I was a kid, screens that my family kept.
Want to know something funny?looked up datasheets a while ago and my Belinea has a superior signal path and amplifiers vs any NF Mitsubishi, it was more expensive then the OEM mitsus tooSo yeah, Belinea Phillips is pretty much the peak CRT tech has to offer.Superior to Trinitron, superior to OEM MitsubishiABSOLUTE KINObelineachads won in the end
>>109956061is it really worth removing the anti-glare filter on crt monitors?it sounds like a good idea in theory. more brightness and who cares about glare nowadays when your everyday daytime monitor probably isn't a crt anyway...
>>109956538I can't (figure out how to) calibrate my 2070sb and someone factory reset it so it looks like shit
>>109954506>older arcade games and they do look and play best on crts, its as simple as thatExcept they're not
Twinklestar sprites is a cute and funny gem>>109956613yes, i never regretted itMore brightness and sharpness, crts suck in daytime anywaysits minmaxxing basically>>109956619look up service manual anon
>>109956519I already told you all of this years ago, are you dumb? You can calculate the expected TVL with the Kell factor, typically taken to be about 0.7 for uniform AGs.For GDM-F520:388mm/0.22mm = ~1764 slits1764 * 0.7 = ~1235 TVLIn practice 0.7 is bit conservative and I could round up to 1280x960, and remain entirely free of moire under any circumstances. For 0.24mm tubes, kell factor predicts around 1131 TVL, which in an ideal scenario results in 1152x864 being the maximum moire-free resolution.If you come to me and say your 0.24mm (or worse) tube can do 1280 TVL, I know you're lying because that would require kell of 0.8 which just isn't a thing with CRTs.
>>109956714None of this matters if the tube cannot reach its potencial maximum.The 91txm blooms later and has tighter focus, so it looks better then the sony 500ps despite the 500ps having .25 dotpitch vs 91txm .28Your F520 at 100nits is gonna bloom out way before that theoretical limit thus rendering the tighter dot pitch meaningless in realityAnd even in your math fantasy world that difference is tiny, and the mitsubishis extra brightness and better anti glare coating more then makes up for itSucessfully recapped the 91txm btw, finally its nice again
NEC Multisync 17 incher
CRT more like HRT lmfaoooo
>"I measured">"Here is le theoretical math not actual measurements of real world performance">"If we strip every other factor out of the equation it suddenly fits my narrative"Midwit fatique
>>109945336Sony's top of the line monitor was good, but I was a long time Eizo/Nanao user since the early 90s. IREM came from them as a spin-out.
>>109956790Goalposts = shifted>math fantasyCosmic copehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kell_factorThe fucking engineers that built these things used this "math fantasy"I also said I confirmed the tube can resolve at least 1280 TVL. I don't know how you expect me to prove that though, I don't ironically enough have a camera with high enough TVL to capture that (nor could you upload such a picture on 4chan). But I said all of this several years ago and even some other anon came to the same results (search the archives), so there's no reason for me be lying. And no, my F520 does not bloom at 100 nits.
>>109945336I would love if I had a Sony HR Trinitron BVM. I was hoping it would appear on my local flea market to get it for cheap, but no such luck yet.The ebay listings are fucking insane. Working models go for thousands of dollars, jfc.
>>109956875>goalpostsNo one is even debating that a .22 pitch is superior you mongoloid.The other characteristics of the tube make it better despite having a coarser pitch, that was my entire argument>notice my usage of "despite" when comparing 91txm to 500ps>And no, my F520 does not bloom at 100 nits.prove it>I dont have a good enough cameraMaybe midwit is too generousWe have this thing called "lenses" that we can use to magnify images.This is my Mitsu at 1200pid like to see the grid pattern of your F520, if it even has one
>>109956942You genuinely don't know what we're even talking about, do you?A picture of a small section is not proof of TVL, it's so trivially easy to cheat that anyway. The whole display needs to display a 1px stripe pattern, resolve every single line clearly, and not produce any artifacts or non-uniformities anywhere on screen. The only way to prove that is to take a picture where the whole screen is visible, with a camera high resolution enough to give each horizontal line enough breathing room not to introduce camera artifacts. And then you need to display that picture on like at least a 4k display, maybe 8k, to avoid your fucking LCD from adding it's own moire. It's just cannot be done.
>>109956990>A picture of a small section is not proof of TVL, it's so trivially easy to cheat that anywayJust take the fucking picill take "cannot be done" as a concession tho
>>109956990not him but actually TVL refers to horizontal resolution, that is, the resolution of a line, not how many lines you can display separately.basically it's how many discrete black/white VERTICAL lines you can display before they blur into grey
"The measurement might be inaccurate so lets not measure at all!"I HATE MIDWITSSAY IT LOUD AND PROUDMIDWIT FATIQUE
>>109957069Ok if you like pictures that mean fuck-all, here's a pic I took like 5 years ago of my GDM-F520 at 2880x2160, or 4KFont is smallest Terminus. The eyes of e's and a's are just 1 pixel tall, and it resolves it, just about.Happy? Mogged?The white artifacting is the JPG engine of the camera freaking out (it's a 2003 5MP CCD)>>109957077Yes, that's what I was talking about.
>>109957120>2880x2160
>>109957120looks surprisingly usable, did you turn down contrast for the pic?If this is 100 nits that is pretty impressiveId like 1600x1200 for a direct comparison, with NEC test pattern specifically if possible because you are correct, without a direct comparison it doesnt mean alotpic makes me want to calibrate my new 2040u and see how far I can push it 1560p is the most ive ever ran a CRT at, so from your pic I cant tell how well my tubes would compare
>>109957120>42iphewand i grew up in a PAL region watching 50i tv all day
>>109957120interlaced doesnt countquite deceptivemy pic is progressive
>>109957221I don't remember, also the tube there was on its original calibrations.But the tube does not bloom until you just before reaching it's max of 120 nits. I am not pulling it out right now, or any time soon. The FE1250's leg is crumbling into fine dust, and is just barely standing on top of the plastic rubble. If I move it, I'd have to design and print a new leg if I want to use it again. And I don't have time for that. >>10995725342 here is the "frame" rate, while field rate is 84hz. So it's 84i really.
>>109957398>42 here is the "frame" rate, while field rate is 84hz. So it's 84i really.oh right, i forget xrandr does that
>>109957398yeah i know that problem with the standI dont even really use CRT Monitors much anymore since getting an OLEDI mostly use my CRT TV for 240p Arcade and retro consoles at this point, and the OLED for most modern games
years of fighting about which monitor is slightly better btw
>>109957529It's not really about the monitors, I just can't stand the faggot and don't want to contribute anything positive to his threads. So if I must post I will just ragebait him. Won't look good on me but not like it matters. I've long accepted my kingdom's bitter fall and have moved on to better things.I will forever cherish those couple golden years and everyone it brought to my life. But those sour greedy thoughts still creep in, just what would have become if I could have ruled for longer?
>>109957936Still bitter, I thought you would be getting over it>the golden years of my life were being an attentionwhore in a 4chan threadBrutalHow havent you roped yet?
>>109957936>just what would have become if I could have ruled for longer?all your own fault for1. engaging with me2. starting drama against meBy antagonizing me you created a fun thing for me to do while bored during work or school You literally created the villain in this story, if you had let me post my CRTs in the threads in peace you would likely still have themBut CRTs as a hobby is fading out slowly anywaysThe peak is long goneCRTs are just gonna become an elitist faggot hobby over time sadly, if you dont have crts now your fucked
>How do I stop the bored 16 year old from being in "my" thread>I know, ill engage with all his posts and antagonize him, scaring away anyone interested in actual discussion in the processGenius move esseAlso reminder I was literally a kid in school back then your arch nemisis that took everything from you was a kid in class on his phone, thats why i posted the same images over and over again
>>109958162You had the option at any time to stop the feud, I told you before i dont hold grudges like the pole, especially back thenInstead of doing this anti ranfag spam, shitting up the threads so even more people leave with your drama, you could have been friendly all alongThis is all your faultDont blame it on me
finfag thread model:
>>109958186Someone with the verbal skills of a 9 year old couldn't possibly begin to understand, certain standards must be upheld to the grave. That was my whole shtick, could I break the etiquettes - as in, attentionwhore - but do it in such an interesting way you had no choice but to respect it.Never expected anyone to fall for my posts though, that's one heck of a thing I pulled off... Twice. Competence is attractive, it turns out.Those threads were a work of art, I tried to make them interesting to read, and the pictures enjoyable to look at. There is NO coexisting with some zoomer shitskin who then makes those threads utterly incoherent garbage. So many told me they stopped regularly reading CRT threads after you showed up. It had just become underage ESL spam. Hell, absolutely nobody's reading any of this shit either. There was so much more lurker engagement back then. These threads have been so dead and empty the past years. The death of the internet marches on one newfag at a time.
>>109958659Nigger you are a literal pisscord/matrix groomer and the hobby we are talking about is playing video games on crt monitors, not heart surgeryif you cannot tolerate someone else forcing their way into "your" threads, you should never have been on public imageboards to begin with>certain standards must be upheld to the grave>on 4chanare you even listening to yourselfFucking deranged4chan is the facebook of image boards and was even back then>Those threads were a work of art, I tried to make them interesting to read, and the pictures enjoyable to look atAnd then I came and took your attention away from youbtw people that "told you" on pisscord or whatever are specifically the people we dont want on imageboards (;You were always part of the cancer, take a hint
>>109958659>attentionwhore - but do it in such an interesting way you had no choice but to respect it.whelp i didnt respect and it and i mindraped you so I guess that didnt work out for you huh?
You really should have just accepted me as the alpha male and contributed to my threads instead of starting drama, that way CRT threads would still exist atleast in some formYou could never win again me, even now ive mindbroken you to the point you are still seething years later
>>109958810>groomerYou think any of the screens the pole took are true?That bro's just mad he lost an argument about anime and got jealous I found relationships. You seem to already know yourself how pathetic of a person he is.If you absolutely want, I can elaborate more, but not here. It involves way too much personal information. Why I've been reluctant to address anything.> you should never have been on public imageboards to begin withNigga you're a post-covid newshit. That's not how image boards ever worked. There was a culture you were supposed to learn and assimilate into. And you were relentlessly gatekept if you did not fit in. I was there in 2012.But that culture is well and truly dead now, which is very regrettable.It hurts knowing you newshits don't even know what you've missed, and are actively destroying.
