Remember the oppoty and driams.

>>109958170
Those cables and tips are so ass.

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos
• EQ

My 10 year old Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro headphones just died, do I get another pair or something different?

>>109959653
new moondrop IEM for autumn???

/iemg/ Dogma Check
Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:

>Crinacle is not your priest.
Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.

>Harman and JM-1 ≠ perfect.
It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.

>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.
Great value, yes. Immune to QC issues and hype cycles? Nope.

>Graphs are not sound.
They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.

>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.
Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.

>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.
If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.

>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.
Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.

>Loud posts =/= smart takes.
Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.

>Cognitive dissonance.
When you're presented with a truth that threatens your entire perception of the world around you, your brain will simply refuse to process it.

This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.

i miss the times we needed to pay crinacle to select multiple pos and upload FR in his tool...

>>109959779
Doesn't know what squig.link is btw.

>>109960033
Doesn't know anything btw. Now shut the fuck up

>>109960085
False. I know that he doesn't know what squig.link is.

>>109960170
put a lid on it and give me your concession

>>109960209
Define sandbox.

>>109960251
Define brother.

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>>109959718
your probably use to that sound signature, and anything that most people will say is better is because they don't sound like the dt 770 which isn't liked that much by hifi audiophiles in general
the clearest direct upgrade is a pair of closed back aeon rt's, or used drop aeons, aeon flow closed, but thats a step up price wise
your other options in that price range of the dt 770 would be the akg a990z which is wider sounding, but also pretty bassy, akg k731, m40x,m50x which i would probably avoid both for comfort reasons, or gamble on the chinkshit low end planars which is the worst option of all because they won't last 2 years let alone 10

if you don't mind open backs then it's a different discussion entirely

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>>109960718
>be the akg a990z
audio technica a990z, just woke up, apologies

>>109960721
>just woke up, apologies
Don't worry about it^^ It's nothing.
>>109960718
Thanks for taking the time out of your day to answer my question, anon, I appreciate it.
>Aeons
Yeah, they're waaaay too expensive for my liking.
>a990z
Costs double as much as the dt 770 so that's also a tad bit too much.
>k731, m40x,m50x
>avoid both for comfort reasons
Yeah, I looked them up and they do, indeed, not look very comfortable. Saw posts online also saying the dt 770s are more comfortable which is very important.
>gamble on the chinkshit
Yeah, I would prefer to avoid that for the reason you listed lmao
>open backs
Yeah, no, they gotta be closed so that's not an option I'm afraid.

>you're probably used to that sound signature
Yeah, I've had zero complaints about the sound quality and enjoyed them for 10 years. They've also been comfortable to wear for many hours in a row. Honestly seems like there's no particular reason to gamble on anything else when I've enjoyed these for a decade. Why not just go with the devil you know? €145 for another high quality pair seems reasonable.

Although I did have 2 follow up questions, which you may or may not be able to answer. What do you think/know about the newer DT 770 Pro X? Reading about it online seems to suggest that it's slightly better but not necessarily worth the €45 over the original. Detachable cord seems nice tho. Also people are recommending the Fiio FT1 as an alternative/better 770, you have any takes on it?

>>109961015
fiio is basically the worst brand there is for chinkshit garbage in headphone audio, both the ft1 and ft1 pro had nothing but problems, given the planar version was probably worse because the drivers were all falling off, the casing was disintegrating, and having the drinkers crinkle and do other trash. In general chifi is a gamble and usually ends up being more expensive in general, they quite literally have no quality control in anything they do. But even the normal non planar had the same issues with no qc, drivers falling off and wood cracking
>dt 770 pro x
detachable cable alone might make it worth it, but for personal experience on both i've only ever owned the 770 pro model, but your probably fine with either if you got a decade without a cable issue, but can't really go wrong with having the option to just plug a new cable in as opposed to soldering one

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>>109959653
>buy some logitech G435
>works alright for 3 months
>go use them today
>no charge, won't turn on, no leds when connecting charger
I know its cheap chinkware, but shit gets worse with each passing year

what are some good cheap BT/wireless dongle headphones
>good
>cheap

>>109961194
>fiio
Hmm, weird that it's so highly recommended on reddit then if it's known to have that many issues. I was already leaning on sticking with Beyerdynamic but this basically solidifies it.
>detachable cable alone
I only use it on my PC and never plug it into anything else so the cable hasn't been suffering much wear I think. The problem with my current Beyerdynamics is that the sound has died on the right side (although it periodically comes back for a few minutes before dying again) and I've tried twisting the cable around various points when the sound isn't there to see if it comes back (I remember that working with various old phone headphones when they broke) but nothing changes, so I'm guessing it's not a cable issue.

While doing some research I've stumbled upon the 700 Pro X which seems to be almost identical to the 770 Pro X (which ofc is extremely similar to the original 770 Pro) but it's more balanced/flat without the higher treble. It only costs ~€25 more than the 770 Pro X version. So that's something I'll need to research a bit more before making my purchase.

Speaking of treble (which is a new word I just learned today), there are people that apparently hate the 770 because of its higher treble and find it hurting their ears. I've personally never noticed or been bothered by it so I guess I'm one of those that's fine with it.

Holy fuck these headpos posters are so fucking retarded.

>>109961337
>Speaking of treble (which is a new word I just learned today), there are people that apparently hate the 770 because of its higher treble and find it hurting their ears. I've personally never noticed or been bothered by it so I guess I'm one of those that's fine with it.
some people are really treble sensitive, some aren't or just don't listen to treble rape music like EDM or whatever zoomercore trash is out there
most people who just listen to classical don't care about headphones being more treble heavy but people refuse to admit for the most part everything is preference based
>reddit
that website is always just so bad with filtering out trash products because 5 chinese guys can shill any product they want with no pushback because it's mostly retards over there. I mean some how people still buy/rec hifiman after a decade of them making failing products constantly
>>109961467
seethe

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>>109961550
>5 chinese guys can shill any product
You might be right

>>109961754
it happens with every chinkshit product that comes out, even after the topping dx5 ii was mass exploding and killing headphones people were shilling and buying it en mass. Yet when schiit had a garbage amp that did similiar 12 years ago they bring it up every single time that brand is mentioned, even though they actually warrantied it unlike topping
it's really tiresome seeing it, the ft1's were mass shilled before they even came out
atleast a decade ago redditors accidentally landed on somewhat acceptable recommendations back when the 6xx was $129 usd, which is still probably the best deal I've ever seen in audio that wasn't a used product

>>109961895
oh boy, hifigo even gave me 30usd coupon for my next purchase if i shill seller and product i bought in few places and send them links. I was happy with products and service but just thing how many of that comments could be like that.
Add to this the phenomenon where, once someone buys something, they convince themselves they’ve purchased the best thing in the world; they refuse to accept any criticism of the product and blindly recommend it (in my opinion, most of these coments are done by people like these). Add to that chinks runing llm shill farms.
Apart from that u have youtubers that have like 10 different items to review, no time for good listen or to notice any problems with gear (even then they have cherry picked units - look hifiman)

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disclaimer: this was sent to me by a friend, who may or may not be associated with juzear *coughhifigocough* and no monetary or favor exchanges have been made. any and all opinion i express about it will be completely of my own.

first thing's first, fuck juzear for making the sleeve so fucking tight, i have to use my sexy feet to push it out.

anyway, i never did post my impression of the light shuttle because i just havent bothered, i've just been fucken dead for the last two weeks. i cant even remember where i put it. fuck my life.

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tots ?

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ok, always never really got much out of tuning nozzle swaps but white (oob) to black nozzle has a significant boost in the low end that makes it sound "creamier" and definitely has softer attack. red nozzle boosts the upper range, kinda masking the clackiness of the upper mids while maintaining that smoother low end, i actually really like it; detail presence without the fatigue.
it's pretty comfy, sedna crystal tips, fits mybear well, no hot spots or pressure buil up or anything. hate how tight the 2 pin connection is, but the cable is pretty nice, minimal microphonics, feels good, havent bothered to properly straighten it but it isnt holding a memory and is manageable.
anyway, it's actually a really good set, exceeded my expectations, especially considering a lot of juzear shilling has been happening lately. since i didnt pay for it, i dont really feel comfortable outright recommending buying it. but it is worth what it's going for on aliexpress especially with coupons and coin discounts. but what do i know.

addendum, MPC Girl Usagi came on while writing all that and, well... just fucking get it if you're the least bit interested. fuck upholding my morals. and, most of all, fuck you.

>>109961317
There are no good headphones.

>>109961895
>>109961952
They do seem to be willing to engage in very dishonourable and immoral tactics, no shame.

Anyways I've decided to grab the DT 770 Pro X, €45 be damned, slightly better build quality, comfort and audio is maybe not worth but eh a lil upgrade rather than the exact same headphones will be nice.

Thanks for being helpful and informative!

>>109962171
stop misspelling thoughts like a retard. it's cringe and you look and sound so fucking stupid