What was programming like back in the 80s 90s, early 2000s?
>>109963730>J&B Rare Scotch whiskyno scotch. coffee, cigarettes, tap tap tap. iterate
>>109963730Before webshit? Good, even fun, things made sense and you were able to take your time to write good code instead of rushing things and making extremely unefficient shit.Also even entry level jobs paid well.
>>109963730Too hard for me. Too many things to remember, and people on stackoverflow we're mean.Glad thats all over and I have claudette
>>109963730slow, limited. Only talking about ArcInfo programming for early GIS. Pre-GUI, all command line. Limited memory, limited ability, limited speed. Limited, slow - also the 'wild west' in that you could think of or create anything as little existed and the future was wide open.
>>109963730I started in the early 00s but I found it really fucking hard. It took a long time for me to understand how to debug issues and properly understand errors.
>>109963730It was a LOT of fun.GFA Basic in the late 80s, writing my own Ultima clones. Added day/night cycles and even autumn/winter palette changing for tiles. What I wouldn't give to magically find those old files, but they only existed on floppy disks that are long gone.I also taught myself how to draw 3D shapes from a 70s math book about using sin/cosine to transform points in space, it wasn't even intended for computer programming, apparently math nerds just figured that stuff out 300 years ago for the sake of pure logic. The book didn't teach about view frustums though since they never considered it would end up on a monitor so my shapes got really distorted when they rotated near the sides of the screen.
>>109963730very boring but also cool and rewardingyou could make a laughably simple program that everybody would joke about today but back then it probably didnt exist or was very expensive
>>109963730>What was programming like back in the 80sAt it's best.
>>109965936>do a memory error>the whole system crashesMh. At least they booted up fast.
>>109963730I was programming 6502 assembly from 1986 to 1991 and was writing video games on 8-bit home computers like the Commodore 64 and Atari 800XL. I consider it to be my peak enjoyment of computing, simple assembly on those machines is pure joy
>>109963730Interesting game moment they choose for that shot. Its a forced checkmate. It says "check" so I assume the piece near his king is a castle, if so his only move would have been h2 and black would have followed with queen to h4 making checkmate.
>>109963730no idea, i started programming in 2020, it was definitely much more fun before ai though
>>109963730Programming in the 80s was very different to the 2000s.Mid 90s and 2000s was basically the same thing.VB6 was very popular lol
>>109966316>was
>>109963730pretty basic
>>109963730I remember that. Comparatively good times, never touched a line of code.
>>109965990I had a multiface and most of us harwired external debuggers before that but even on a ZX80 life was better because you could hold the entire system and the registers in your mind.
>>109966418I am optimistic that one day it truly will be dead lmao.
>>109963730inthe 90s, installing windows and setting up my desktop was a whole day endeavor. I was a teenager but still.
80s>ZX81>Commodore 64>8 Inch floppies90s>www.>windows>irc00s>.com>broadband>napster>pron
Here's my memories from the early 90s.Windows was clearly winning the format wars. I remember windows 3.1, but a lot of people accessed the Internet through netscape rather than Internet explorer.Although there wasn't a whole lot online. Most Web sites came from academic institutions, government, and media companies.IRC (Internet Relay Chat) was popular. A lot of the terminology and tropes that are still used today on forums such as 4chan originated there. Multimedia cd roms were more popular for watching videos on the pc than anything on the Internet. It took a while to view one jpg. The picture would fill from the top of the frame downwards.Therefore it was surprisingly clean and bereft of pornography or any images nevermind videos.
>>109963730in the 90's there was a book about retard tech bosses called the mythical man month. in the 00's retards took over the unix desktop and started ruining everything so bad that https://github.com/loosestrife/matchbox202x looks like ayy lmao tech
i remember trying to learn c++ around 2004 and getting filtered by a lack of understanding of what a function was. i don't know if i had taken algebra yet but the concept of a function wasn't truly made clear to me until i took multivariate calculus in college. i think the first languages i understood were BASIC for the commodore and VIsual Basic which was taught to me in an online college course but this was around 2010. I think SICP made me understand data and process abstraction. introductory classes don't teach essential theory and tend to just teach syntax which is unhelpful. education has probably improved since i was in school and kids probably learn what a function is and how abstraction works sooner.
>>109967445Good thing back in these days, inbreds like you were filtered hard from all tech venues. Sadly nowadays anyone telling you to go where you belong is le evil nerd gatekeeper.
>>109967028Can't relate. I just remember crashing DOS. Maybe I was born too late.
>>109967457i had zero help from any family. had to pull myself up by the bootstraps coming from a family who got filtered by algebra 1 and never went to college. none of my siblings have a degree and are varying degrees of learning disabled. my sister can't remember her multiplication table and my other sister can barely read.
>>109967502>retardo doubles downThis is why we can't have nice things anymore.
>>109967445You're alright, anon. >>109967457This guy is a deranged turbo faggot, however.
>>109967507back in the day, you probably programmed on a computer a flat memory map, a tiny instruction set and no protected memory and think you are a genius because you could enter the source code for pong that you found in a magazine into an assembler. also you are probably 50+ and have blood sugar issues.
>>109967415Dying of irony poisong over here.
>>109967530Cry like a bitch, zoomer brained nigger. We built things by reading the manual and experimenting because we weren't braindead morons like you.
>>109963730>Asking about the 80s to 2000s>Not asking about the 40s to 70s, the actual peak
>>109967549can't we set our differences aside and just be glad neither of us are vibe "coders" who need an ai to program for us?
>>109967624No. It's a slippery slope started by (You) landing into ai slopland.
>>109967415>retard tech bosses called the mythical man monthI read it about 3 years ago, and it was definitely not about that, but maybe I missed the point. Anyway, the ways of work and the amount of bureaucracy they describe felt so alien to me.
>>109967415Jeez
>>109967457You're alright, anon.>>109967445This guy is a deranged turbo faggot, however
>>109967390>IRC (Internet Relay Chat) was popular. A lot of the terminology and tropes that are still used today on forums such as 4chan originated there.Can you elaborate? It's crazy to think that early 90s internet terminology evolved into 4chan slang. Maybe 35 years from now there will still be people posting soijaks.
Maybe they were using BASIC instead of Python.
>>109967606tell us about the 40s to 70s then
>>109967390>A lot of the terminology and tropes that are still used today on forums such as 4chan originated there.Usenet.
>>109969090>It's crazy to think that early 90s internet terminology evolved into 4chan slangIt didn't really, most 4chan slang comes from 4chan
>>109970536Early 4chan was just shit lifted from pop culture and other parts of the internet. I mean already funny cat pictures.. BUT WITH A CAPTION!! Somehow that resonated with billions of morons.
>>109970245Computing was developed and perfected during that time. Almost nothing new has been created since the 70s (and to a large extent since the 50s) - only refined, commercialized, or miniaturized. This gradually lowered barriers to entry, resulting in the flood we see today.Back then, the barriers were very high and many problems that are now solved were unsolved. Programming was more serious and academic, but also involved handling very finicky, physically fragile hardware. Programmers were basically wizards doing magic. Probably the closest thing today would be working for CERN or something.
it was hell
>>109970560Interesting, were the majority of Programmers back then still Electrical Engineers?
