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>the KIDS act

I don't give a flying fuck about Masturbathodon, but this shit will kill whatever is left of the actual old internet if it proceeds and is complied with. Why the fuck isn't this internet-killing shit just ended for good? Just gather everyone involved in the process of pushing these laws into a shuttle and launch it to the sun. There is literally no other solution.

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>>109965376
>Why the fuck isn't this internet-killing shit just ended for good?
because you let the Epstein crowd keep running the show instead of doing the right thing

>>109965364
That's not what anon cares about. It's when the NGO's stop shielding this place and it gets Age/ID think-of-the-chidrin'

>>109965364
fucking kikes are so blatant lmao

I don't care about mastodon trannies

>>109965504
>The problem totally is these few, front-facing people goyim

Can you avoid this act if you just don't say what your site's age requirement is?

>>109965583
You found the loophole!

>>109965595
are you making fun of me or is that legit the answer?

>>109965606
>are you making fun of me or is that legit the answer?
The legal system will ultimately settle this.

>>109965583
Are you retarded?

>>109965651
well this targets adult spaces right? porn sites and social media sites where the age requirement is usually 13 and up. if you just never state the age requirement for your site (provided it isn't a porn site) what do they have to hold against you?

>>109965685
>well this targets adult spaces right?
wrong. Any site a child could access.

>>109965685
The age requirement of your site is dependent on the content hosted on it, not what your declare it to be. You can arbitrarily set a higher requirement, but you can not claim to be a kids site hosting porn. So for pretty much any site featuring user-generated content they actually have to be 18+, unless anything uploaded only is shown after a manual approval and vetting process.

>>109965723
>unless anything uploaded only is shown after a manual approval and vetting process
I knew this day would come so I built that into a chan site. One day the internet will need it.

>>109965583
This is just a way for the state to go after ANYTHING they have a problem with using kids as a shield.

>>109965761
That was already discussed multiple times. Just look up 'Article 13 EU' from a few years back. The problem is that the sheer amount of slop we (sites and users) are used to can't be sustained if everything is manually reviewed before being shown to users

>>109965826
>if everything is manually reviewed
why wouldnt i put a clanker on the task?
classification is trivial nowadays, it reads subtext better than most humans, it stays on tasks since you can use another clanker as judge (so no prompt injection into context)

>>109965826
>sheer amount of slop
That is exactly why 1 out of every 10 people need to run their own small chan sites. Distributed. Less stuff for one person to review. More moles to whack. Get things out of the big centralized platforms. Either way that is how I will run my stuff. People say nobody will post but that simply isnt true, just less people and that is comfy.

>>109965907
>why 1 out of every 10 people need to run their own small chan sites
yea i cant wait to start my own altchan for 3 users

>>109965930
You would be 5% on your way to the size of this place. It's not for everyone, just us hoopy froods.

>>109965898
>why wouldnt i put a clanker on the task?
Because one slip up would cause you massive fines and the usage of LLMs for this isn't court proven.

>>109965907
I believe you like the sound of less slop but in the end you're as much online as all of the neets here. What we need the most is to stop valuing the internet so much on a personal level.

>>109965997
No idea what you mean. I am going to make it so easy to stand up and run a chan site a five year old could do it. Fetch me a five year old.

>>109965997
>Because one slip up would cause you massive fines
EU laws are primarily about intent. Even if you fuck up bigly in the implementation, if you can successfully argue your actions were in pursuit of $thing_globohomo_court_demands you'll be in the clear.
Doesn't always apply, but unless there is gross negative effect like people dying or a large financial loss the general idea holds up consistently

>>109965364
This is great news and this will be the death of extreme centralization. Regulations only work on large centralized entities where enforcement can happen at a convenient centerpoint.

>>109966010
My point is that you already have been brainrotted

>>109966018
No, that's not how it works, especially since national laws would also still be applicable.

>>109966035
>My point is that you already have been brainrotted
Thankyou for your valuable feedback. Be sure to like and subscribe.

>>109966025
No, it will be the opposite. If this shit is allowed to go forward, eventually all connections to anything beyond pre-vetted whitelisted centralized hosts will be blocked by default.

>>109966056
shut

>>109966056
Too much risk to tax revenue, wont happen any time soon. Perhaps if the socialists take over but even then it will take them a few terms and a lot of money.

>>109966053
>No bro I'm constantly online but surely I'm not having some second screen content running right now as a I hop between 20 different threads
Turn off the restore session feature and show me your tabs and ram usage

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>>109965364
I will just not use any web service that requires age verification. Period. Not happening.
>oh but then you won't be able to use any website soon
Well, then that's it for me. I don't care

>>109966056
They'd have to rewrite the internet and given the US runs the internet, won't happen. EU can commit economic suicide though. The fact is the internet requires you to be able to connect to different indeterminate IP addresses without a whitelist.

>>109966117
>The fact is the internet requires you to be able to connect to different indeterminate IP addresses without a whitelist.
Untrue.

I have a bad feeling about this, like the IRGC has infiltrated this thread.

>>109965575
You start with them and keep going until you solve it at the source.

>>109966145
Anon, good luck with your "you can only send letter mail to a list of people we whitelist" fantasy. The internet is a series of tubes with ip addresses connecting to other ip addresses. And if I want to self-host a Minecraft server and have my friends connect to my IP, they fucking can.

>>109966117
>given the US runs the internet
no it doesn't. l2network, retard.
Just because the US has the most traffic doesn't mean it runs the internet

>>109966169
The source is something you can not fight by adopting their values

>>109966196
Most traffic and most money, you people crave our websites and our users. I do pray for the day we turn off the internet to the rest of the world with our own great firewall.

>>109966196
You bring up a good point. Maybe it's time to cut bait. Build a wall so to speak. Let's make every continent its own BGP island. That should solve some of these conflicting political interests.

>>109966195
>And if I want to self-host a Minecraft server and have my friends connect to my IP, they fucking can.
In your own LAN yes. Anything beyond that is trivial to block. Yes, it will break things as they are now, but if you haven't understood yet, THAT'S THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT!

>>109966243
Never gonna happen. Never gonna give you up.

>>109966243
Wow anon you sounded profound but then I realized that you just answered my point that this extreme friction would be politically disasterous.

>>109966206
>you people crave our websites and our users.
normies do.
I only crave 4cuck, because I am addicted, sorry. But these mac minis can be hosted anywhere in the world. It's nothing special

>>109966195
They killed net neutrality remember? This means they can now kill your Minecraft ports and only allow you to connect to Facebook and Xitter

>>109966258
Already happening in Russia and various other places.

>>109966264
Net neutrality literally only benefits companies like Netflix. Glad we have some corpobootlickers in the room.

>>109966263
I used to think it would take physical servers but I doubt the published numbers. I bet I could run this place on a VM with 2GB ram after I clean up the code.

>>109966262
>that this extreme friction would be politically disasterous.
Do they look like they care? They already have almost total surveillance and soon pre-crime prediction capabilities and AI powered drones to move on with their totalitarian dystopia.

>>109966263
You also crave the attention of your American superiors otherwise you'd be on your favela chan right now.

>>109966268
Always happened in Russia, Syria, Iran and other assorted failed states. That's what they get for not adopting the US constitution.

>>109966288
>88
Check'd Hitler

>>109966286
Do you think I care what happens in countries that aren't America? If you are in the EU despite seeing the obvious road they're on you deserve the rape.

>>109966298
A piece of paper isn't going to protect anyone.

>>109966274
Delusional. Meanwhile in reality now your traffic to everything except Netflix will be cut off. The irony is almost painful.

>>109966321
It's working well for me and everyone I know. We are bringing freedom to the poor people of Iran as we speak. We will liberate their internet.

>>109966321
That's where you're wrong, unlike your unpatriotic leechdom in your favela hellhole, there are many Americans that would die for the constitution if actual liberty is at stake. They can't even fucking put up traffic cameras because it's a mere suggestion of a police state.

>>109966305
A large portion of anons here do see it. But only here. Out in the real world the normoids run things and they are absolutely oblivious to it all.

>>109966328
Wow and yet somehow my torrents keep on running. When was net neutrality removed again? I'm waiting for the dystopia as promised and yet Xfinity keeps on letting me torrent and use a VPN.

>>109966352
We are literally witnessing the dystopia encroach on us daily. This thread is just one small example. But sure they'll never restrict your torrent and VPN traffic because you said so!

>>109966367
Oh I forgot that the EU was a state of the US.

>>109966338
They can die as they wish, there isn't much they are going to be able to do with their peashooters against Palantir AI powered drone armies thousand steps forward in strategy.

>>109966411
Do their drones make cool sounds? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEby9OkePpg

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>>109966411
Dumb. Fuck.

>>109966104
This. Oh jeez, I won't be able to waste countless hours consuming blatant propaganda and psychic manipulation. Terrible!

>>109966507
>Predator drone
More like army of wasps with extremely potent poison.

>>109966553
You need humans to run the drones and ultimately benefit from the use of drones to create a police state. And has already been proven, doesn't take much infrastructure to create kill drones nor to defeat them. So good fucking luck. :)

>>109965376
that movie was so fucked up

>>109965583
they will say it's an adult website if theres a certain percentage amount of porn as content

>>109965364
Even if they forced Fediverse ID, there’s peer to peer communication. It will never end.

>>109966702
How do you communicate peer to peer, if the network only allows connections to central server from the clients?

>>109966733
Your device is the server, it’s why it’s called peer to peer.

>>109966733
This is some kind of socialist fan fiction fantasy. Not gonna happen in the free world. Doesnt even happen in China.

>>109966756
Exactly why?

>>109966746
Different subnet. Gateway blocks everything except netflix.com.

>>109966778
>Exactly why?
Why not in China? They like money. Simple as. Any country that goes socialist will go broke and anyone that can flee, will do so.

>>109966798
That's why every country is going socialist in lockstep now.

>>109966816
That's what you want to believe. EU is marching towards a theocratic dictatorship lmao.

>>109966823
Call it whatever you want, totalitarianism it is whatever the branding may be.

>>109966816
>That's why every country is going socialist in lockstep now.
You couple cities I think you mean. New York City is self deleting that much is certain. All the big money is fleeing that city as fast as they can. That is one place I could envision some kind of dystopian internet control for a few months before it turns into a proper ghetto.

>>109966836
The socialists are getting the firing squad when the muslims take over, useful idiot.

>>109966855
They wont stop there either.

>>109966869
No, you see, socialists are vermin with no purpose. You can't use them for anything except to act like vermin spreading a plague. The same can't be said about actually useful people that can act in a mutually beneficial manner.

>>109966883
What I am saying is that they will likely go after the Mastodon developers, given the likely orientation.