> Antarctica has no fuelJapan has no fuel. It is imported there> Antarctica TreatyIran, North Korea, Russia, China etc do not care about such treaties. They routinely violate such treaties. USA is violating treaties about weapons in Space.> Antarctica is harder to build in than SpaceReally?
I'm sure it would be easy to build the data centres back on your home planet. Planet Retard.
>>109971274You underestimate the Penguin Lobby on my home planet
>>109971267Those things would have to be fully autonomous for maintenence with a nuclear power plant and undersea cables, starlink ain't gonna cut it. Easier to just smack one of those abominations next to some backwater american suburban hellscape and get the retards to deal with the noise, power bills and water shortages
>>109971296Aren't space datacenters fully autonomous for maintenance?
Snow is an aerosol and is basically roof insulation.
>>109971296>Those things would have to be fully autonomousWhy? You can just ship jeets and mexicans there for 6 month shifts.
>>109971267>During the Forerunner-Flood war, the Flood expanded exponentially and converted entire planetary ecosystems into massive, unified compound intelligences known as Key Minds, completing outclassing any AI the Forerunners could come up with.Maybe we should do something similar.
>>109971308What do you think is actually autonomous? Can you articulate what you actually think it means?I work in a DC and people keep spitting out that word with apparently zero understanding of what it means.
>>109971346OK so datacenters in Space are impossible then?
>>109971308NTA, but those don't exist, and like a datacenter in Antarctica, will never exist.
>>109971267Ah yes, just place some solar panels on the roof of a building located in a region where the sun is never overhead and disappears behind the horizon for months of every year.
>>109971308Doubt.jpg they gonna have to fly out some astronauts periodically when it gets hit by garbage or a debrie from outer space. Also there's solar flares to consider, which can render your billions of dollaridoos investment a space brick
>>109971358Hence the need to import fuel like we do in Japan.
>>109971360Is it easier/cheaper to send astronauts to do space maintenance or is it easier to just ship people to Antarctica
>>109971354They are just willing to sacrifice the hardware when it goes and willing to sacrifice more for redundancy, assuming the economics will ever make sense.The biggest problem is if something is cheap enough to entirely replace, it's even cheaper to straight up fix. Compute in space is a political solution first and foremost.
>>109971371I don't care either way, both are retarded, I'm not advocating for either
>>109971365>we
>>109971267>Russia, China etc do not care about such treaties.They do albeit
>>109971267Why not just build them in some northern part of Canada? It's cold there, population density is very low, plenty of water, power delivery is also likely available (and if not it would be 100 times cheaper to slightly extend existing grid in Canada than build brand new in Antarctica), internet connectivity is also not a problem in Canada.
>>109971267>xbox hueg
>>109971429You do need some level of population nearby, along with infrastructure and preferably with an existing industrial area.You don't quite need a major metro but it can't be a 500 population Hamlet.Most MODERN DCs have already been scoping out these places and relatively speaking they are relatively unattractive places if you live in a major city already.
>>109971267>for decades we've been fed stories about co2 emissions that will create greenhouse effect and cause Antarctica to melt>let's build massive heat generators at the same very place we're afraid that will meltLolLmao
>>109971705it may surprise you but the people warning you and the people wanting to build data centers in Antarctica might, in fact, not be the same group of people
>>109971267Antarctica is in the middle of fucking nowhere, not near the people the data centers would serve, you fucking retard.
>>109971730Oh really?https://news.microsoft.com/source/features/sustainability/from-farms-to-oceans-how-microsoft-is-working-to-scale-carbon-dioxide-removal/
YesLet's melt that ice even faster!!
>>109971781>big corporation pays lip service to whoever they think will benefit them most at the timeyawn
>>109971267ayys won't allow it
>>109971781yeah MS also fired up a decommissioned nuclear power plant to fuel their AI dataserver investments
>>109971748I have a new equation I'd like to propose.Coldplace + Datacenter = Data2This equation combines OPs stupid 'lets move the datacenters to Antartica' concept with the addition of AI (Artificial Intelligence). By including AI in the equation, it symbolizes the increasing role of AI in shaping and transforming our polar ice caps. This equation highlights the potential for AI to get even chillier, enhance datacenter profits, and revolutionize various fields such as HVAC, environmental safety, and technology!
>>109971872>does nothing to solve the distance from the people it serves problemFucking idiot.
>>109971748Space is the middle of fucking nowhere, not near the people the space data centers would serve, you fucking retard.
>>109971378OK then do it that way in Antarctica also.
>>109971354Maintenance has an extra cost, since you need to pay per Kg whenever you send something up there. But biggest issue I think is getting the shit cooled and powered. You need a gigantic solar power array to get it powered, and you need another one to get it cooled.. You cannot cool it by exchanging heat cause there is nothing up there to exchange heat with.. so you'll need to radiate the heat..
>>109971267You have to constantly dig out. It won't work.
>>109972021I knew you would do this, and I want you to remember that compared to fucking Antarctica, space is fucking close.You only have to go like 100km to get to space. You can drive 100km in most states and not leave the state. The space data centers are more likely to be 4-, 6-, 800km up.And this is setting aside that Antarctica is not even the closest pole to the majority of the population on Earth.
>free unlimited coolingJust build it already.
>>109972273It is cheaper to reach Antarctica. Teenagers have done it in their boats.
>>109972340did they bring an army of builders and engineers to set up those centers on those boats?
>>109971267Space> good energy supply> difficult to get there> Good connectivits> Getting rid of heat can be annoyingAntarctica> Easy to get rid of heat> Less difficult to get there and build> No easy energy (biggest cost)> Shit connectivityWhat is the point of building in antarctica when there is no advantage other than getting rid of heat?It makes much more sense in a desert with good solar for example.
