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Thoughts?https://github.com/BlueHeisenberg/SCSKillerhttps://scskiller.com
>>109974382Fine for people who want to try it out.I'm more bothered by games with dogshit HDR.& Da Jankees Lose https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KCytkhHTuwY
>>109974455I'm personally bothered by games with horrible input lag.
I need to figure out what the screw sizes are on this card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID GAMING, 12G-P5-3968-KR, 12GB GDDR6X, iCX3 Technology, ARGB LED, Metal BackplateI guess I could just whip open the screwdriver set and guess until I find the right ones.Finding modern specs seems difficult.
>>109974486Then don't turn on dlss5
why dont we still have fun looking computer parts
>>109974549That doesn't look particularly fun.
>>109974382Neat.
>>109974549is this yours?
>>109974062I have a 98 tcl miniled and it's great. Way better than the 85 Samsung miniled I had before. Probably wouldn't use one for my PC monitor though. I still have a 38" uw aw ips.
>>109974489I don't think you'll have difficulty finding an answer online because those FTW3 cards were popular and repadded/repasted commonly by miners.This took me less than a minute to find.https://www.reddit.com/r/TEAMEVGA/comments/rk2xh2/rtx_3080_ti_ftw3_ultra_i_lost_the_4_screw_nut/
>>109974580you gayme on that atrocity or not
>>109974577yes, though ive had it for a few years now and i dont really know what to do with itits just, doneit lives there on a shelf and looks prettyplayed halo on it a few times
>>109974591>redditUgh, Thanks anyway though.I can only find info about the big mountain screws and not the much smaller ones all over the main plate.Modern search engines are trash.
>>109974592I have a PC and consoles hooked up to it and it looks fine to me. Has a few thousand dimming zones and I don't notice the blooming as much as my qn85d Samsung or an old Sony tv. 98 qm8k was 3k mounted. A 97 lg OLED is 17k. My 7L PC case sounds like a jet engine though kek
>>109974549https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8pqREMESIk
>>109974695Put a 6800gt in it and play halo 2 :^)Also what case is that? I've thought about doing an SFF build with a Core 2 to have a mini XP PC.
>>109974549I didn’t know Fisher Price made PSUs.The PC looks good tho, nice theming bonus.
>>109974716>it looks fine to me.have you compared to an oled>A 97 lg OLED is 17k.that's retarded and unusable considering they are using the same tech from like 7 generations ago and it's a shitty panelno oled above 83" effectively exists in reality
>>109974818zzew c2pnot recommended, the glass panel scews go directly into the aluminum chassis and strip out the threads instantly, the bottom right is just smoothi had tried to find ways to resolve that and decided not to care
>>109974549SOVL
>>109974874I have an OLED in my bedroom but my loving room wall is 16 feet wide and my couch is 12 feet away. Im thinking of getting a 115-120 inch TV actually.
if cpu prices don't go up out of nowhere by november or december i might finally buy my gaming pc, it's been almost one year since i bought the gpu and psu lmao
>>109974874>have you compared to an oledinput quality > screen size >>>>>>>>>>> TV panel technologyEvery single bitch who comes to my place thinks my 100" 4K IPS TV playing high bitrate 1080p rips is the best TV they've ever seen.
My 5070ti will last until 2040
>>109974401 (Cross-thread)>miniled tv is good for is getting larger size than oled for cheaper and brightnessIn my experience I had my doubt whether it was the room lighting or the TV I was looking at actually was 4500 nits.>27" 4k 240hz qdoleds have been sold for like 100 euros moreThe cheapest 4K 240Hz OLED is $616 in this store right now and it's 31.5 inches, 1440p is limited to the 26 inch option. Most of the OLED monitors at 4K seem to also be 31 inches, all of them QD-OLED too.
My 9070XT won't last until 2027
my gt1010 will last foreverthe ceiling isnt a worry if you live on the dirt
>>109974363Im going to wait, just a little longer to build. wait and see be patient maybe by christmas prices will discount.
>>109974966>My 5070ti will last until 8:40pmRough
>plop in my 1080p 6-bit + FRC AOC monitor expecting to be disappointed >sRGB colors in user mode with novideo sRGB almost identical to my BenQ PD series monitor>it's... fine?>putting a lamp behind my screen as a bias light and turning on the chandelier in the evening hours like a normal person makes the Las Vegas Sony Demo look basically normal in SDR mode with pure blacksI always had a habit of placing lights behind my monitor instead of to my side but actually deliberately setting up a bright light behind the screen for bias lighting in a central position is a game changer. Shame about the PPI drop still, not having that 163 PPI even on a 23.8" display makes it feel like I have astigmatism and no glasses on trying to read text.
>>109975097Just move to a well lit environment, overall. Your eyes will thank you for it.
>>109975151I don't remember when this started probably after Goyim-19 made zoomers procrastinate for 5 years, but the traditional advice you would be given is always work in a well lit room to not ruin your eyes and reduce eye strain. And don't sit too close to the screen either. Meanwhile all these gamers broke that down and made people forget. Made this is also the reason why buying a TV-sized screen as your monitor is healthier as well, your eyes accommodate for a longer distance.
anyone use thunderbolt cables for gamingI have a macbook and a windows desktop and I want to be able to switch between them easily (like 1 button or 1 cable switch), but idk how to set that up
>ASUS ROG Strix 27 Inches QHD (2560 x 1440) HDR400 USB-C GamingIs this the default option for 1440p single player gaming if you're not rich?
>>109975175tits too small>>109975179for what pricea 4K 160Hz monitor can be had for $240 now
>>109975188I don't care about about 4k because I'm poor, my card can't do 4k
>>109975097>pure blacksTurn up the monitor to 100 and unless your bias light is stupid bright the native lack of contrast of the IPS panel will reveal its self.
>>109975175thunder bolt cable to mac <-> monitor, dp + usb to desktop, plug your peripherals into the monitor USB hub, switch interal hub with source
>>109974891holy opulenceunless you are jef bezos 30k for a bravia 9 115" seems kinda wasteful>>109974948>input quality>talks about bitrate hollywood slopgaming is uncompressed highest quality mediathe fuck you mean input quality trumfs oled>>109974973its not gonna be 4500 nits full screen sdr hdr anything>>1099752004k displays can render lower resolutions
>>109975169The trick of the well lit environment is that it makes you focus on things besides your monitor.
>>109975227>4k displays can render lower resolutionsokay you're right.the one I posted goes for 250usd in my third world country, if you could recommend a 4k that happens to be around the same price in my shithole then that'd great
>>109975227Wouldn't using lower resolution on a 4k monitor make things look blurry and ugly
>>109975227in the same website where i found the 1440p monitor i found this 4k one for 330usd, thoughts? Samsung Lh43befhvgfxzx 43", 4k>>109975281yes, but im guessing that anons means something like playing windowed at 1440p and take advantage of the 4k monitor for other things or play older games at 4k
>>109975271Cheapest 4K IPS monitors with dual mode and 144Hz or higher I can find where I live >MSI MAG 275UPD>PHILIPS Evnia 27M2N3800A/00 >ACER Predator XB273K V5 >>109975200What is your GPU
>>109975396>MSI MAG 275UPD400usd on sale >PHILIPS Evnia 27M2N3800A/00cant be found here, have to spend 495usd for amazon to send it here from america >ACER Predator XB273K V5365usd All of those are supposed to scale between 1080p and 4k, right? Does 1080p scaled to 4k actually looks good...? >What is your GPU5060ti 16gb that's why I wanted a 1440p monitor although im aware this card does struggle in some new AAA games at 1440p if you don't tone down certain settings
>>109975179Those ASUS ROG IPS monitors are generally well-reviewed, it's worth buying at a good discount.Rent a colorimeter if you need very accurate SDR mode (this applies to all gaming monitors if you're doing color critical work).
When the fuck can I buy this? My GPU now cost more than my car and I want the protection.
>>109975511How does 250usd for it sound?
>>109975516get an active current balancer if you're so scared, temperature measurement is just cope
>>109975548The Seasonic will do current as well, and I trust the name.
>>109975516>My GPU now cost more than my car and I want the protectionThat's genuinely a bad financial decision, though, a rundown shitbox that costs 500$ on the scrapyard is a money black hole that won't stop coming in and out of the mechanic, at least buy some reliable old car that has a good rep and that won't make weekly doctor visits.
>>109975562I have a 2007 Honda Accord that dives fine and reliable. It's not my fault the world went retard and a replacement 5090 would now cost more than it.
>>109974363That's a niggerpad
Is TCL literally the only ones making quantum dot enhanced IPS panels right now? I don't understand how this isn't standard, it makes a 4K IPS-type LCD feel twice as responsive and clear as the phosphor plops other WCG monitors in this class use. Feels like the CSOT HFS panel is one of the only examples of actual LCD engineering going on. Their backlight strobing implementation is also excellent, it seems shitty on these other Mini LEDs.
>>109974401 Why would this guy recommend plasma tv for gaming when the burn in is worse than OLED?
I'm not gonna make it
>>109975561OptiGuard doesn't do current balancing
>>109975698Because Plasma, like CRT, is impulse driven with natural decay of image between refreshed avoiding the sample-and-hold penalty on motion resolution that OLED and LCDs suffer from unless you run the source material at insane refresh rates or use strobing tech.
>>109975881How can you balance a pin with high resistance, which is makes current imbalance?
I think I might make it
>>109976008none of the solutions on the market do active current balancing. Der3astard said they considered it for the wireview pro 2 but ditched it as they can't tell what will happen. They all measure ampere and in most cases start to beep with an emergency shut down after prolonged time. There are some variations as MSI PSUs can throttle too I think but that's about it.
>>109975698Because a plasma tv can be has for free or 20 dollars second hand
>>109976173It's also limited to 1080p
>>109976070That's my point. The Seasonic does current and temp monitoring, which is as good as anything.
>>109976184fair enough. Just as warning the last time they presented the feature the software used bluetooth and it seems only to be part of their enterprise prime lineup so you better have a deep wallet. MSI has PSUs as well with Safeguard features, some with a software side but also just beeping. Those intermediate gadgets like Ampinel, Wireview or Cooler Masters GPU Shield I wouldn't get.
>>109975271Aoc gigabyte or obscure chinkshit like z-edgeAre usually cheap>>109975310>Windowed 1440pNo one said that niggaThat's retard tier>>109975664LG nano ips is their variant of quantum dotsNo one cares LCD is abandonwareAll tcl miniled va tv are qd thoThey will probably abandon this for micro rgb tooAbandonware tho just buy OLED>>109976178Yeah that's why he moved on to OLED and he started the channel years ago
>>109976190>it seems only to be part of their enterprise prime lineupYep it is going to be pricey, but there is no current release date so who knows if they will even make it.
>>109976211I was expecting them to be Q4 this year as the noctua version was announced for 2027 but there is nothing yet. The original presentation was 2025 but it seems like they skipped the pure hardware solution as whole.
I am cursed with having both a 1950X and a 2950X?I have burdensome amounts of RAM, also - what do?
>Plasma televisions typically consumed between 150 and 500 watts of power during normal use, with larger or older models sometimes peaking at over 700 wattsJesus Christ
Poorfag question.I'm still on 1080p and now have:5700x cpu a520m motherboard16 gb ddr4gtx 1660 Ti (on it's last legs)550w psuNow I just want to sit out the next few years of ridiculous pricing and get a second hand gpu in the meantime.I don't want to spend much more than €200I was thinking a rtx 3070..?
Should I buy a Gigabyte Gaming OC 9070 XT now for $800 from Amazon, or wait for a potential sale? Do you guys think the 9070 XT will continue to go up in price from $800, or go down soon or go on sale?
Some retailers now have basic bitch 5090 pre builts for 10kWhile ago discounted one could be had for 3.5kBrootal
>>109976241yeah, a plasma will turn your room into an oven. I had one for a while and it was tremendously unpleasant during the summer.
nutso
>>109976460>I was thinking a rtx 3070..?a bad idea
>>109976241still the only tv i have that shows sports the best
it doesn't make any sense
>>109976520>>109976587they cost even more where i live
>>109976460make that 16gb ddr4 into 32gb
Time to replace the 4090 with 5090.
I'm like 40k in debt but just started a new big tech job, should I wait or buy a 5080 astral rn?
>I'm like 40k in debt
>>109976766
>>109976540>a bad ideaconcerning memory? I could get a 3060 but they are even more expensive because people want to 'dabble with Ai' 12gb
i just want to play some videogames man
>3060 >550usd
>>109976766>>109976799yeah? its not really that much. ill have like half of it wiped by next year lol. the numbers are all fake anyways who cares?
when your hardware is so fast that the cores race to sleep doing light tasks and you can feel the system get slow unless you do something thats intensive in the background.
im moving back to a 1080p 24 inch display ive had enough
>>109976963why is that
>>109976983i boughted an oled and realised i need less
>>109977018obvious lie
>>10997696327"
>Future generations will choose between GPU and a entry level carGod i hope Jensen gets luigied in live stream
>>109977071Just ride a bicycle, you're a fatass who plays too many videogames, anyway
So the 3060 was rereleased and they're all minimally 150 above msrp. What the hell
>>10997718812gb vram
>>109977188Gamers enjoy getting on all fours and taking it in the butt, many such cases
>>109977018based goyim
>>109977197costs about as much as a 9060xt 16gb and performs roughly 20% worse than a b580, use case?
>>1099770715080s remain affordableyou literally don't need more than that
>>109977229but bro DLSS, CUDA, NVENC, Nvidia drivers
>>109977229usable for ai thats really it, gamers arent buying these gpus these days its ai niggas
>>109977244You can buy a car with $2000
do you guys think they'll actually going to start using cpus for ai?
>>109977295already didzen6 epyc is backorder all the way to mid/late 2027
>>109977295cpus are part of the ai stack same as ram.the gpu is a dummy pcie device. it doesn't work without the brains (cpu).
>>109977309you already know that's not what i mean, or maybe you have autism or something
>>109977330>do you guys think they'll actually going to start using cpus for ai?ryzen ai maxyou fucking cocksucker
>>109977295If your inference engine is not using both at the same time you are losing a lot of performance
>>109977336why are you so mad
>>109974926I sure hope you at least used a cheaper/spare CPU in the meantime and don't just let your GPU rot in the corner
>>109977336>>109977340i mean something like this whatever it is
>>109975179Aren't mini-led monitors way better? And only cost like 50 more.
>>109977295>do you guys think they'll actually going to start using cpus for gaming?technically possible but not practical or cost effective
>>109977259>usable for ai
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M7h6phI like the case a lot.
>>109977408This is wild, when you have all of this ai stuff set up locally, does it pull its information from the internet like grok, chatgpt does etc. or do you have to feed it to it yourself in some way? Also is 64gb the bare minimum for this?
>>109974549>heatsink is plugged into a gray box in a card slotwhat
What do you guys think?Advance Payment on an Ioniq 5 or 5090?
>>1099774685090 cuz i don't go outside
>>109977459https://www.activecool.com/technotes/HowItWorks.htmlpeltier cooler, the card is a power supply
>>109977295Only VRAM matters in AI
>>109977446It has a shitload of information baked in but can get details wrong, especially numbers, so you should allow it to use web search and more specialized web services to pull exact data.For programming, 64GB models can "oneshot" a simple program offline, with no reference library or search. With external tools and agentic harness setup even a 27B model can plan-code-debug in a loop until the end result meets initial goal.For more general knowledge, like pop culture references or cooking etc it's all hit or miss. And then there is "creative writing" (ERP) which relies less on "knowledge" and more on "writing quality" which has nothing to do with model size.
>>109977527This ai shit is fucking scary ngl but also amazing
>>109977445>$1000 for ram>$4500 for a 5060 systemGrim. I bought Corsair cl30 ram for 200 2 years ago.
>>1099774685090 because I only daily cars with flat 6 engines
this is probably a question best suited for a different thread but i have an m4 mac miniis it feasible to set it up with an offline AI to simply task it with getting an x86 game from 2005 to run natively on it?
>>109977553based boxer engine enjoyer>>1099774685090 because cars are heavily taxed in my cunt and 5090 money is nothing in buying a car
>>109976963Just moved back to 1080p and it's FUGLY Low PPI LCDs are just awful especially for text How did I put up with this resolution for so long instead of using 4k
how are the redditors coping
>>109977665>how are the redditors copingWell, redditors generally have more money, so they just take it up the ass and buy that 5 times inflated ramkit.>hey, I didn't invent this shit. Just the way it is.
>>109977686>Well, redditors generally have more moneydo they really
>>109977570use claude AI
>>109977706Yes.And I don't like my own answer.But I do believe the average redittor has more money than the average fren.
>>109974363Side panel/glass on or off?
>>109977773
>>109977468>>109977634Cars are expensive forever a gpu is expensive for the duration of the payment plan. 3 years for my 5070ti
What is the best gpu for the money right now?
>>109977815second hand 3080
>>1099778159070 flashed into 9070xt7900xtx on linux
>>109976461Bumping for advice.
>>109977989get it now
>>109977989I would not get a 9070 XT.
>>109978054why? i ordered one already…
>>109978003>>109978054>buy it>don't buy it Thanks
IM PANICKING
>>109978150you need a 5070ti >>109971427
I'm consolidating, market is too hot. Bought a 5070 Ti, selling my 4090 and 3060 12GB. Merged two desktops into one, with the 5070 Ti as the only new part.>But local AICovered, I have a Spark.
You can build something nowadays and no one has a clue as to what you are building
>>109978604nice clock Ahmed
>>109978604why is your motherboard upside down
>>109974363She's tight and small. Had a scare with the nvme, but it should be fine. Much better to have this more compact case beside my desk than that mid tower.
>>1099754891080p dlssed to 4k looks ok, there will be some artifacts so dont expect super clear image1080p mode on 4k panel looks terrible on 32inches and only little bit better on 27, but you get higher refresh for shooters if you can pump the fpsjust think about what you are really using the monitor for to decide what res, refresh and panel wil suit you the best, dont let other people with different uses
I think that instead of buying a new monitor I should buy a new chair for the same money to help my back pain and heat management.
>check budget 4k 27" 160hz monitor>increased 40 eur in pricewas literally 177€
>>109979232not bad idea, but dont forget that it is important once or twice an hour to stand up and do some exercises
>>109979232>heat management.what?
>>109979232kitchen chair + oled tv + reverse hypers + deadlifts + some stretchinglet me guess, you need more?
>>109979232Steelcase leap
>>109979291I imagine he's looking for something with a mesh back.
>>109979291This Ikea chair I've been using for over a decade now is a faux leather torture device, you will sweat and overheat relentlessly into it>>109979326No, I need lessI have a spine injury so I can't do lifts like that anymore, not for a long time>>109979273I do many hours of walking and cycling almost every single day of the week, my problem is that I vehemently despise sitting in chairs, they are fatiguing and painful after more than a few minutes
>>109979562I also looked at the Flexispot C7 Mesh, seems like a good option for the price but in-store examples are unknown to me. I know you can get refurbished units for as low as $150 so a third of the price even, if those are legit.
>>109979585>I have a spine injury so I can't do lifts like that anymore, not for a long timeThis guy broke his back 2 times and invented reverse hypers to rehab it without surgery
Ordering mission critical products online is a meme includng chairs, especially chairsAlways test in person in a retailer on location if possible
>>109979665>Ordering mission critical products online is a memeidk man it worked very well for china
>>109979665hows business larp paying you really cannot make business plan that relyes on exit with staff payrolls
Nvidia drivers still crash
amd drivers give colored regions as if gpu memory defect luckily linux vesa video thoughput works
>>109979665This. You have to try it out. Luckily the leap is everywhere in the hospitals I work. It's a comfy anesthesia chair desu
>>109979778>>109971427
>>109979903you have to go back
To experiment and have Fun(tm) with DLSS5 you need two 5090'sIf you don't have dual 5090's you are not the bleeding edge of entertainment and gloyslop it's over(New optimum tech video) https://youtu.be/WY5u1-4h48Q
>>109979665>Always test in person in a retailer on location if possibleThe only chairs available for testing in person are IKEA chairs or really shitty cheapo chairs.
>>109980611office retailers usually have showrooms but depends where the fuck you livealso some brands are not even available in certain countriesso
Monitor shopping has to be the worst part of setting up a PC, not a single good monitor exists.
>>109980766I'll just stick to IPS in future till there is some proper technology
>>109980569This will always be the case, software can and will always be able to ask more than what current hardware can provide.It has always been, and will always be.None of this changes whether a game is good or not.
>>109980766You can select a monitor type youre interested in and wait for sales
>>109980830trueAnyway, however good would game look with dlss5, I wont pick 60fps dlss5 over 120fps without. Because it might look good while you are standing still, but when you try to move, 60fps will just blur every detail and picture quality that cost you half the fps. And add latency on top of it. This is also true today for any "ultra" settings that kill your fps.
>>109980766IPS with local dimming is decent enough. It gets better blacks, the haloing is a minor problem, and if you are lucky you can also find a monitor that does black frame insertion.
>>109976939dumbfuck zoomers (the only ones left still posting memefrogs) unironically fell for the boomer dave ramsey schtick
>>109980873I’m not interested in a single monitor type because they all have compromises.
>>109980969Wow how are you browsing 4chan without using a display?
>>109980766I was hoping my TCL monitor would be the best 4K LCD on the market for the price for the features it packs for 400 euro>The only qd mini led, in a sea of phosphor snails>Manufacturers own fast IPS like panel with better motion performance and no flickering of any kind>two backlight strobing modes that actually work >Probably the lowest input lag on a 4k LCD on the market right now in both SDR and HDR modes>widest color gamuts in it's class, color performance is top tier in sRGB clamped, this is probably the best SDR LCD I've seen color wise so far >strobing, VRR, HDR, and dimming can be used all at once>user adjustable color balance and temperature and brightness in HDR>excellent build quality >no on angle bloomingBut>No usbc port for firmware updates>locked down firmware >no fine tuning for the local dimming algorithm, you get dark part brightening which is good and useful but it doesn't fix that you can't change the dimming aggressiveness and behavior >no HDR EOTF or PQ customization in OSD >both dimming modes and hdr modes locked down to presets which is a problem because the local dimming crushes blacks and dims shit too much to prevent blooming, which is the main drawback making this display look somewhat flat in HDR mode in mid to high apl, where SDR local dimming can be actually better >no integer scaling >Uniformity was somewhat meh on my unit, edge taskbar icons would be noticeably dimmer at an arm's length or more
>>109981004Coping with a old shitty samsung PLS monitor
Should I go for a 5600 or a 12400f? Benchmarks seem comparable giving the slight edge to the Intel maybe.I looked into the 13400f too but atm that's priced too high to make sense.
>>1099810775800x3d is the only ddr4 cpu that makes sense
>>10998107712400f is better. if you can get one of those b660 boards with the external clockgen and non-K oc bios, the 12400 can be OC'd 30% above stock and wipe the floor with the 5800x
>>109981011The TCL 27c2a literally just launched at computex this year and is fresh to market, it SHOULD completely BTFO the last gen wave of mini LEDs from a year ago or half a year ago reviewed by MUB
>>109981081Cool, PayPal me the difference and I'll get that one.>>109981093Thank you for an actual answer.
>>109975516I installed my own temp sensors with thermal glue.Cheap solution that works just as well.
I still get lingering doubts about whether or not returning the monitor was a good idea, looking at the HKC RGB Mini LED demo and hearing the specs and exclusivity left me disappointed. Their 27" offering sounds like it would be another downgrade in color while brightness stays the same. Dimming zone count matters, even if it's just 1152 to 1196.1https://youtu.be/VIa-DFj24_I?si=xGw2LgIXMuALqN_Q>>109980969To me it just seems like there aren't any options I could have upgraded to from this monitor without other major compromises beyond the HDR experience.Also, another thing on my mind since the last 30 days is potential price hikes on the 4K Mini LED market. Not sure if KTC or AOC are just fearmongering, but it would have compelled me to keep the TCL even with the PSU whine and bleed.
>>109976587Don't get a Palit.They are still available for a reason.
>>109977468> EVfuck off!
>don't buy a mini led, it's a memeOh no no HAHAHAReminder always do the opposite of what /g/ tells you, if they say don't buy a mini led, you buy a mini led
>>109981242/pcbg/ said not to buy a 5090. I did anyways and can now make a couple grand off a heavily used card years later.
I remember that my usual idle wattage consumptions (using a Watt meter, only hooked to the PC) were 70w-80w. I've seen it idle at 107w.Today I switched to a new power strip, and noticed that the watt meter showed a higher idle consumption at 125w-134w, (did not check how much it was drawing off the old strip, but im sure its not the new strip's fault)Build is 7800X3D, 5070Ti(uv/oc), 850w superflower PSU, 10 fans, 1nvme, 1 SSD, 1 HDD and one random 24' samsung monitor, running at 60fps (I know, I'm waiting for a 27' 4k WOLED to upgrade)I have no idea how to troubleshoot this, but it's starting to consume me from inside. Things I already tried include restarting the PC, removing everything but the PC and monitor from the strip, disabling integrated graphics and removing every USB to see if something draws suspicious ammount of power, updating to the latest nvidia driver, plus updating afterburner. CPU+GPU+rest of system 30+35+15 = 80w Power meter shows 125w, only with a browser on.So something is drawing more than 40wwhat the fuck?
>>109981301>WOLEDIt's not really an upgrade, stick to the 24" panel until RGB stripe is available
>>109981301efficiency taxpsus are most efficient at 20%/50%/80% load.
>>109979778only the nicofag cares about poowa
>>109981301>switched to a new power stripHave you tried switching back?Unironically could be some "filter" fucking up the wave making psu pull more than it should.
>>109981387Nah, used a 750 corsair one before, and both sucked 70w at idle.Superflower reduced the power draw by a small ammount even
>>109981242>memory shortage>displaysIt's just lies to pump up their prices, they're feeling left out because while all hardware has been soaring in price monitors haven't, and they want in on the grift
When I'm playing a game my screen sometimes cuts to black, then comes back with a frozen image filled with randomly colored dots. Safe to assume my gpu is dying right? Oddly it's only happened while playing cp2077 recently, even though I also played stalker gamma which is fairly intensive on my system, but didn't get things like this. That game is more cpu reliant so maybe that's why.
>>109981438whole system freezes and needs a reboot or resumes after a second?if it resumes it can be display or even cable fault.
>>109981438the ram/vram overheated. very common to happen in cyberpunk because not only the gpu gets a workout so does the cpu/ram. once ddr5 hits 60c or vram hits 90c you get errors
>>109981463Things keep running in the background for a while (can hear the sound and stuff), but then eventually it either reboots by itself or I need to do it manually yeah.
>>109981301just hooked the pc straight to a single outlet and the results are the same.Could be a driver issue? I had been using a 5xx driver for a long time, till recently where I upgraded to 6xx for DLSS5.Then again it's not the GPU that's drawing the excess power..
>>109981081>>109981077Upgrading my i7 6700k to this. $99 itx mobo, am4 mounting kit from bequiet for $13, reusing ram and everything else.
>>109981077The problem with Intel is you're going to spend a little extra here and there to get the clock gen and the VRMs that don't suck ass, and that makes the price/perf quickly evaporate.If the 5600 gets you the perf you want, you can get the cheapest AM4 motherboard and the performance will still be there, so for ultra budget every penny counts, I'd get that and spend the rest on GPU.
Okay /g/ how do we feel about refurbished GPUs in the cryptomining/AI era? Are they a waste of time?
>>109981825you are guaranteed to have to repaste it yourself or it runs at 100 degrees celsius
>>109979232I went to the doctor earlier this year because of back problems due to the time in the chair, it was muscle pain so nothing serious but basically I was ordered to walk at least 45 min a day. It helped and now it's gone, so if you're similar and dont walk already start doing that.
>>109981426>If display tech were the only factor in monitor pricing, you'd have a point. But as the article pointed out, it's not panel glass or display tech that's the issue. It's supporting components like driver ICs, microchips, motherboards, and power modules.>Then it's also the fact that display manufacturers are beginning to shift their production lines for automotive and commercial contracts. Within the next few years, pretty much every car is going to have some kind of AI-powered smart screen/tablet in it. That need is going to dwarf any need for gaming monitors.
why can’t we go back to the before times i miss those daysram died? no big deal it’s like under $100 for a new sticknow you have to pray every time you turn on your computer that nothing died in the middle of the night
>>109982053Go back before gacha? Never.
>>109981077Go for intel if you want a modern low tier nvidia gpu (5050, 5060, 5060ti) or are thinking of getting a fast pcie 5.0 nvme ssd, go for AMD if you want effortless overlocking (essentially free performance on any B-series motherboard.). >>109981819Id argue it's the opposite:H610 > A520B760 >= B550Z790 > X570for ultra budget builds the 4500/5500 are still passable as are 12th, 13th & 14th gen i3's. For slightly higher end systems the 5500x3d and 5500F are decent contenders.
Thanks to everyone suggesting to just ziptie the case fans to my gpu. This shit almost works too well, I should have done it years ago. I'd recommend this to anyone who has ever heard their gpu fans before. >>109981825My card is a secondhand mining card. So far I've repasted it twice, replaced all thermal pads, and swapped out the stock fans for big case fans (it's a 3090 infamous for overheating). Which sounds like a lot and it is, but if you can snag a good deal that makes it worth it there's not many other options these days.
Is 4K DLSS Ultra Performance visually better than 1440p DLSS Quality? Or is UP cope and I should set the minimum to Performance?
>>109982231Wow I just looked and my 3090 stored in the closet is worth more than I paid new. What a retarded time to be alive.
>>109982301always look at the internal resolution not the external resolution4k ultra perf is 720p, 1440p quality is 1707x960 (better than 720p but worse than 1080p).
>>109980918why do millennialtards like to blame everything on zoomers? zoomers are the ones with the most debt compared to earnings. it's all millennials and gen x tards that cry about "DA JOOOZ" and "DA BANKS" and "PAY OFF UR DEBTS ASAP!!!"
>>109982398it's even more retarded when you take into account that mid 90 is considered zoomer already and that their experience isn't that much difference from early 90 kid. Generational wealth has been decreasing overall with people become less and less wealthy the younger they get while only oldfags being rich but instead of fucking off they try to squeeze absolutely every cent out of the system and only leave the bill behind.
Intel mobos aren't even that expensive I don't get the problem people have with them when it comes to price. A $300 ZX90 will get you everything you need
>>109982440Stores are getting rid of them that's why. They have been sitting on shelves too long. Nova Lake gonna be expensive.
>>109982301If you have a 4k monitor, yes. I always set DLSS to native resolution then bump the quality/settings till I have an acceptable frame rate.
>>109981973>>109982231Sounds great, thanks guys. I was thinking of buying a refurnished Intel Arc. Doesn't have to be the newest or greatest, just enough to get some occasional 1080p gaming in. Too bad this shit is so expensive these days, I don't play PC games enough to warrant anything extreme and I'm okay with lower settings.
>>109982457It better be good if Intel fuck this they are done I can only think they are holding back the 52 core chip just to see what AMD's putting out
>>109982301If you can run it just set it to performance.
>>109980766just buy a qdoled monitor or qdoled tv>>109981077this is horrific seeing as 13600k were FREE months ago but anyway>>109981081you have to be retarded to buy that if you are building a new platform>>109981242yes goyim buy our shitty minileds NOW or else you gonna miss on on the shitty monitor>>109981279I told pcbg it was the best value gpu
gonna pull up furmark and huff my gpu's exhaust fumes
>>109976939then why are you asking, are you stupid or something
>>109981819>The problem with Intel is you're going to spend a little extra here and there to get the clock gen and the VRMs that don't suck ass, and that makes the price/perf quickly evaporate.Do you have an example?Any motherboard worth using is going to have everything it needs to support any CPU even on Intel.Unless your ideal of a motherboard is most garbage A520/H610 you can scape up.
Been out of the market for so long, have tons of questions. Currently have a perfectly good 6600 XT and looking to upgrade the CPU cuz I'm still on R5 1600 with 16gb DDR4>Should I upgrade to AM5 socket? Or get a cpu for AM4?>If I go to AM5, should I spend big on a motherboard and get a budget CPU? Can't afford good both right now, but maybe later. Is AM5 at end of life?>Would also need DDR5, what should 2 8gb sticks go for these days?>If I stay on AM4, should I shell out $350 for the 5800x3D? Would there be any compatibility issues with such a gap between 1st and last gen in the same socket with my 1st gen mobo?>If I went to AM5, would there be a big enough power draw jump that I'd likely need a new PSU too?>Also still rocking an old 120gb SSD, how much of a priority should a 1tb modern gen be?
>>109982351sell it to an AI tard and move on with your life.>>109982398you pay off your debts because paying interest, on anything other than an appreciating asset, is efficient.>>109982398>muh boomer hateBrittons are rounding up their broken retarded boomers and carrying them away in vans. We should all learn from their example.
Anyone tried Sudokoo? stuck deciding between SK620 and SK700 and not sure which one would be better for my purpose of having the quietest idle noise.
>>1099831595600x3d is $180 at microcenter. No brainer.See >>109981712
>>109982919>qdoled monitorkek>qdoled tvbased
>>109983159AM5 isn't end of life yet but the jump to it is expensive. If you're on budget you're better off upgrading what you have
>>109983159>>Would also need DDR5, what should 2 8gb sticks go for these days?two testicles (healthy)
>>109983159>Should I upgrade to AM5 socket? Or get a cpu for AM4?5800x3d is the same as a 9600x with the 9600x slightly faster in some games and 5800x3d in others>If I go to AM5, should I spend big on a motherboard and get a budget CPU? Can't afford good both right now, but maybe later. Is AM5 at end of life?you could get a 9600x. am5 is not end of life with amd supporting it till 2029 at the minimum>Would also need DDR5, what should 2 8gb sticks go for these days?16gb ddr5 goes from $200-350 and 32 is $400-800>If I stay on AM4, should I shell out $350 for the 5800x3D? Would there be any compatibility issues with such a gap between 1st and last gen in the same socket with my 1st gen mobo?5800x3d is a good buy just update bios on motherboard, there shouldnt be any issues except your mobo being pcie 3 most likely.>If I went to AM5, would there be a big enough power draw jump that I'd likely need a new PSU too?not really am5 isnt that much more power hungry than am4>Also still rocking an old 120gb SSD, how much of a priority should a 1tb modern gen be?1tb is minimum in this day and ageTLDR:get the 5800x3d
>>109983159>Currently have a perfectly good 6600 XTYour CPU shouldn't be all that far from pushing that card to its limit. Any cpu better than a ryzen 2600 will see you largely gpu bottlenecked. >compatibility issuesyour mbo probably won't support pcie 4.0 but other than that it ought to take any modern ryzen cpu as long as you update the bios.>I'd likely need a new PSU too [moving to am5?]AM5 is generally more power eficient so unless you move a couple of tiers up in CPU you won't need a bigger psu. >how much of a priority should a 1tb modern gen be?Some modern games and applications strongly favor if not outright require a fast nvme drive, if your old drive works though you can probably get by without something new.
>>109974363for how much does a 5060ti 16 gb typically runs in your cunt /g/?
>>109978150>>109976461If you bought the 9070 XT switch to linux. Thank me later. Use cachyos or whatever flavor of the moment distro.
>>109983356I found a 5060ti 16gb pallit one for 440€ 3 months ago, to replace my 3060. Did a overclock&undervolt on it and i get very close to the performance of a 5070.
>>109983356not sure about typically but right now it's pic rel:
>>109977808No longer a case anymore. GPU is getting and getting more expensive. Im being serious when i said 5090 will reach $100.000 in few months
>>109983398>>109983436does $559.25-ish sound resonable?
>>109983442Just like bitcoin getting to 1m...
>>109983449Go for a 5070.
>>109983442>5090 will reach $100.000 in few monthsyeah I'm sure once hyperinflation hits the US dollar that will be the case
>>1099834425090 is end of life lol
>>109983449yes if its brand new with warranty
>>109983538There are no 60 series. Only H200 / H300 / H400 and onwards
>>109983538Pretty much, nvidia is going to go full cloud gaming.
>>109983356not too crazy still under the 5070 for now
>>109983544Oh wait, H200 is already here >$112,579Lmao Literally a gaming GPU for Elon Musk
>>109983545they cut down on geforce now hours, they wont waste silicon for cloud gaming gpus when they can make more for datacenters
>>109983564That's old they are on GB200/GB300 nowThe future is R200
>>109983567Crazy to see that nvidia used to have naked woman at nvidia events in hopes of pulling in more gamers and now they think they dont need us anymore.
>>109983564That GPU isnt capable for gaming or any 3d task. Only for data thingy stuff. What you mean is RTX PRO 6000 Workstation. This shit is slightly better than 5090 with much better AIslopping as a bonus
>>109983385What if I have no desire to use Linux?
>>109983680Buy a Mac.
>>109983690No. I'm not interested in switching from Windows.
>>109983619That old nigga jensen still a freak
>>109976461>will the prices continue to go up anon-samaMy crystal ball says prices will continue to climb untill the holiday season and then you'll see discounts as high as 30%-35% during the Black Friday sales.
>>109982919>this is horrific seeing as 13600k were FREE months ago but anywayThere has been plenty of Intel shit that has practically been free. If you just chose the absolute best value at any given point you'd be running a $150 12900k on a $200 high end z690 board with whatever kit of DDR5 you'd want.Of course no one here actually gives a shit about real value.
>>109983831No value in buying a dead socket for 8% more perf compared to a 7600x, doeOnce AM5 gets EOL'd I'll be buying a 10/11950x3d for its lowest price ever and I probably won't have to upgrade for a decade
>>109983831value is picking up corporate e-waste for free
>>109983865>for its lowest price evernta but amd is really aggressive in making sure that doesn't happenat best you'll save like $20 assuming they don't deliberately and completely deplete stock before new generation comes out
>>109983711It's usable but AMD software sucks in Windows from personal experience. You get better performance in Linux due to the open source drivers.
>>109974549i bulit a wall mount pc, that's fun enough for me
>>109983831>$150 12900kcan you show me when and where they were ever this cheap
>>109983916can't stand weeb shit these days,buttsugumi washing machine gif inside that thing would be pretty funny
>>109983253>two testicles (healthy)Damn.
>>109983922They were pretty cheap at one point, but damn does the KS get toasty.
>>109983922PcPartPicker clocked the 12900k at $120 at best buy at one point.
>>109984044Looks like it was a best buy black friday thing, no other retailer matched the price so it was probably out of stock
>>109983916What's with all the tranime shit?
this place is dead asf
>>109984163I wonder why?
>>109984163The economy and society is on the way to being dead, so it makes sense.
>>109984202kids buying iphone instead of gaming pcs and are back in school
>>109984219Kids are probably buying their first car instead of a minimal gaming PC.
>>109983623and it's very cute!
>>109984234RTX 5080 is down payment a toyota corolla.
>>109984277RTX 5090 is more expensive than a used car
>>109984163A 5060 Ti 16GB costs nearly $800 now.Now is all about making the most out of the PC you own, unless you have Hynix DDR5 kit and enough SSDs for an upgrade.
>>109984302theres always radeon :)
>>109984302>Now is all about making the most out of the PC you ownPeople are building more than ever, but local AI rigs rather than gaming boxes. Check out >>>/g/lmg for example.I spent more on PC components this year than ever before, but about 80% of my spend was on AI hardware.
>>109983916That could give me eye cancer! What an abomination.
>>109984321>about 80% of my spend was on AI hardware.So you bought a 3060 12gb for $1000USD?
>>109984330I just swapped my 3060 12GB for a 5070 Ti yesterday, which I counted as non-AI spend.
>>109984343I gave my 3060 12gb away a few years ago. Probably wasn't super smart.
>>109984318$500 for a 9060 XT still feels pretty bad, people were able to buy a 9070 near that price.
>>109984302Glad I bought one last year for $430. I'm thinking about selling it and upgrading to a 9070 XT.
>>109984377you can still buy 9070 for $600 and flash it into a 9070xt
>>109974549soul>>109983916soulless
>>109983916holy cringe
>>109984435Nigga 9070XT cant do AIslop. Keep your 5060ti
>>109984604He's trolling.
Any use dual gpu lsfg with dlss5. Trying to justify running it but a 5090 is out of reach and its performance hit is so massive. It looks so much better but not as much as 120fps looks better than 30fps.
>>109984604Guess I'm hallucinating my 32TPS in QFN then.
i think i got a fried mobokeep getting video tdr errors/gpu has fallen of the bus
>>109984640>dual gpu lsfg with dlss5if you like your latency to be slower than sega saturn sure
>>109984726>DXGI_DEVICE_REMOVEDNvidia's National Anthem
>>109984631Crazy how some amdfags always make post like those just so maybe they bait someone into joining them in their misery
Crazy how far some Jensenfags go in order to justify the GPU they got on credit. Shouldn't have paid a $500 tax just because they don't know how to use optiscaler, or how to ask a LLM for instructions to make a 9070xt pump out AI slop.
>>109984783
>>109984896cpu still working checkram still working checkmobo still working checkpsu still working checkgpu still working nope
>ask mom to take a loan for my gayming pc >i learn how to make good quality 3d erotic content (sfm, blender)>make a patreon >profit will this work out in the age of ai...?
>>109984947or you can suck three dicks and buy a 5090 pre build no loan
>>109984955hehe that's funny but no one pays that much for some bjs
>>109984966you're not just blowing on them they are beating your uvula with their dicks
>>109984973STFU
>>109974363If i were to buy a 4k monitor and downscale my games to 1440p, would that look worse or make the GPU work harder than just getting a 1440p monitor and playing the games in 1440p? Not sure if its important but im considering a mini-led, also using a rtx 5070ti
>>109983916i need this
Ok, you want to build a pc with secondhand parts. You have about 300 dollar left for a gpu. 1080p monitor.What do?
>>109985091>If i were to buy a 4k monitor and downscale my games to 1440p, would that look worse or make the GPU work harder than just getting a 1440p monitor and playing the games in 1440p? If you just render the games at 1440p internally and output them upscaled to your 4K monitor there will be no difference perfomance-wise than driving a 1440p monitor, but also because of higher pixel density the 1440p image will look sharper/clearer rendered over on a 4K screen despite the non-native resolution or worst the same.>Not sure if its important but im considering a mini-led, also using a rtx 5070tiGrab a 4K screen, a lot of non-AAA games can even be driven @ 4K native with that level of GPU horsepower, not to mention the higher resolution has other benefits like viewing 4K video/movies and sharper text for webpages/desktop icon/GUI usage.
>https://x.com/gammichan/status/2106842487927038328Never thought I'd read that ps5 is 80% ported in 2026
>>109985152Another fact: DLSS and FSR performance at 4K look better than DLSS and FSR quality at 1440p
>>109985152Thanks for the answer. Would you recommend a 27" or a 32" monitor for the 4k? O read that 4k + 27" can look sharper, but ideally it should be 32" or something
>>109974695>and looks prettyIt looks like a fucking 7 year old picked the colors, shit is gay af bruv
>>109983916>dalit gpu
>>109984604I don't use AI so I couldn't care less. >>109984631>>109984798>trolling
>>109985230If you're going to act like maturity is a fundamental good then you should call him out for playing with toys instead of scratching the dirt to continue to live
>>109985242>I don't use AI Are you gay ?
>>109985255>>109985255>>109985255
>>109985152That pic makes me want to fucking cry. Being a poorfag it's the worst
>>109985223>Thanks for the answer. Would you recommend a 27" or a 32" monitor for the 4k? O read that 4k + 27" can look sharper, but ideally it should be 32" or somethingI recommend 27" 4K as that reduces the pixel pitch (black distance between pixels) and raises pixel density the most for the sharpest image. You can compensate for a smaller than 32" screen by simply phsyically moving it closer to your field of view but you can't do the opposite to add resolution that isn't there.
>>109983215Nearest microcenter is 1000 miles away and they don't ship according to the website listingAnyway to work around that or is Microcenter just off the table?
>>109983356It's usually too damp for it to run.
>>109985152if the game is rendered at 1440p and upscaled to 4k by monitor, resulting picture will dont look as good as native 1440p if the game is rendered at 1440p and then upscaled by gpu to 4k, resulting picture will look better than native 1440, but some artifacts might be visible, this upscaling does bring gpu overhead so there will be slight performance hit compared to nativepeople chose 1440p over 4k monitor if they have use for high refresh rate for example for competitive gaming, because high refresh modes on 4k monitors (480hz at 1080p) look very bad, while top of the line 1440 will offer you 540hz at native