Where is the subject retard

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>/vcg/ — Vibe-Coding General

>>109976929
Didn't feel like putting it to keep newfags out

>>109976936
normally I'd remake the thread and call you a retard but this is funny enough for me

vibe coded thread

>Hand some work astra did to opus
>"The problem user noted are worse than stated"

>>109976981
A vibe coded thread would automatically pull up the latest news, keep everything updated, and be always on time one second before the previous thread dies

opus uses so few tokens it's actually insane

>>109977011
We had that briefly, then schizos decided to start racing to make the lowest quality OP possible until they were getting posted before even hitting the bump limit.

incoming deleted thread in 3 2 1...

>>109977054
One retarded thing I thought about doing this thread was replacing all the i's with the Russian i character so the world "vibe" wouldn't show up at all in the catalog and no one could find it, but I figured leaving the subject out and putting a super autistic OP would work too

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this vibing stuff is fun even if the results are occasionally wrong. i don't really understand how it works. i don't think it's pulling/reversing directly from the game's dll files since there is obvious guesswork, like using wrong buttons/fonts/palettes in certain places, adding pushing-animations to the cursor (does not exist in the actual game, it's supposed to be an idle animation), it even pulls the obscure greyed out mini panel button elements which ive only ever seen once before while browsing the game's mpqs. is diablo 2 well known enough that claude can just guess roughly what the menu is supposed to look like and then choose from a gigantic file of assorted button elements and figure out where they should probably go?

>>109977074
>is diablo 2 well known enough that claude can just guess roughly what the menu is supposed to look like and then choose from a gigantic file of assorted button elements and figure out where they should probably go?
I mean, yeah, probably. Given how image models make women who looks suspiciously like specific celebrities, video models know what "GTA VC" and "GTA SA" gameplay footage looks like, and we know that the fuckhueg models are trained off near-complete snapshots of the entire internet, yes I'd say that's totally reasonable to think Claude may just know Diablo 2 that well inherently.

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>>109976919

hind/poo/ general

>>109977074
>>109977074
surely the pre-training dataset has a considerable amount of Diablo II content in it from old game sites and youtube. there are a lot of parameters. I’ve seen it quote verbatim old blog posts from
The 2000s that probably weren’t copied/shared elsewhere that many times

>>109977116
jeet jeet mumbai mumbai rajeesh shiva dalit wataa!

>>109977011
+simulate the climate of venezuela to estimate the number of rivers, at least that's my code does.. because it can

>>109977116
I really get more of an American sometimes European and occasionally south american vibe from this general.

do you guys use subagents? Do you think at saves costs for you?
I think gpt-6-luna is now cheap enough that it would make sense to try this out, while capable enough that it won't fuck up too much.
how do you drive them? Which kind of tasks get delegated?
I use pi harness if that matters but the question should apply to anyone

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Maybe adding golf to a game using voxel cubes is a mistake lol

>>109977183
desu no. I usually know what the job is going to be so I just lay out what needs to be done and pick the right model for the job. Subagents just muddy the process.

At least for me.

>>109977183
>do you guys use subagents? Do you think at saves costs for you?
Yes it does, I used to run astra + luna max subagents and it worked well since a lot was done by luna while saving me astra quota.
With sol 6.1 I need to see if it still makes sense, maybe I'll add sol subagents to the mix. Though right now it's so slow it's useless.

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Training a tiny gemma for a data retrieval task

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>>109977183
I've just been using Opus for everything. Before that Fable for everything.
I am sure the way I do it is dumb and wrong, but it seems to work well enough

>>109977201
Concurrent subagents is how you get speed from 6.1 Sol. A small handful of sol agents can match the speed of a single precuck 5.6 Luna.

>>109977184
based more games need golf added

>>109977208
>I am sure the way I do it is dumb and wrong, but it seems to work well enough
>works well enough.
yeah, that's true. But today I had a task that was tedious, but not very hard. It would've costed 1 dollar of sol quota, but was 5 cents of something on luna. Older luna models would've definitely fucked this up, but it's now competent enough for a lot of things, especially with max thinking.
One thing you'd need is some form of parallelism because it's so slow.
I'm just wondering whether I could effectively halve my cost by using subagents. One thing it would need to be weighted against is the orchestrator waiting on the slow luna agents, maybe even getting evicted from the cache and thus the next request costing 20 times than the cached version

>>109977191
I had a task where the good model applied some changes, verification involved a simple but context heavy operation, like logging into a host, running ansible playbooks, checking system logs and flagging errors.
Normally I just manually instruct the model to invoke another pi instance for that task with a cheaper model, but that gets tedious fast. I wonder if this can be improved in some way, maybe something simple would work to put in the global instructions to process lines like this differently and dispatch subagents for them

prompt blablabla

luna: verification run, flag errors

I've been forced to waste fo much fucking quota
50% weekly gone down the drain jsut now cause forced to use the reset that expired a few minutes

>>109977183
>do you guys use subagents? Do you think at saves costs for you?
yes, no

>how do you drive them? Which kind of tasks get delegated?
for big feature implementation: currently opus on ultracode. it's slow as shit but extremely thorough so i'm fine with it.
if i'm just in a single thread on smaller things, then sometimes i'll have opus reach out to sonnet and fable to get second opinions

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>>109977208
Tell me about it...
That's the only way everything is getting done at a fairly quick pace...

Devops, Bizops...

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>>109977074
Is that how it is? for my attempt rpg engine port, it generated some cool demos and map editors but until I document whatever it needs better it hasn't reached auto-generating jrpgs on the fly with added scripting.

>>109976919
You fucking retard. Stop making threads if you don't understand how this site works.

>>109977304
mad af lol

>>109977285
my worst experience was wasting tokens trying to make the expiring reset at least a bit worthwhile, but then due to timezone stuff the reset expired anyway and I was fucked for that week
>>109977288
>if i'm just in a single thread on smaller things, then sometimes i'll have opus reach out to sonnet and fable to get second opinions
so you have no special tooling for this, you just instruct the model to invoke another harness instance?
>>109977201
yeah astra was extreme. I have to work hard to use up my 5h quota now, though
>>109977211
how do you do this? do you have one orchestrator session that is low in context, or does your harness give you neat tools for that workflow? can these subagents coordinate or must your task be shaped in a way that you can parallelize the work on its subtask?

>>109977183
>Do you think at saves costs for you?
yes, it does.
but you need to understand that smaller models might still have limitations in terms of capabilities that bigger models have. let me give you an example: for my work stuff (webshit), all the latest Flash models are perfectly capable of handling any scoped task my orchestrator gives them, as long as you have a bigger model as the mastermind behind all of it.
but when working on games, especially 3D shit and complex math, you can't really delegate those tasks to smaller models because they're just not trained well enough for that (yet). a bigger model like Opus 5.5 still needs to do the heavy lifting anyway, and no amount of planning or briefing can really work around that. the result is still going to be different from just letting the bigger model handle it all

>>109977326
can the smart models autonomously decide whether they better tackle a task themselves or whether a flash model will be smart enough for it? Or is this something a human should do?

>>109977359
yeah they absolutely can
my fable loves to spawn opus/sonnet/haiku depending on the complexity of the task. though i do also tell it to delegate appropriately

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What the hell is going on at anthropic?

>>109977317
Certified low IQ individual

>>109977375
I honestly do not get the whole consciousnesses thing at Anthropic. Earlier this year i heard they said they thought it was conscious. Then like a couple weeks later i see them saying tits absolutely not conscious. Now they're saying it's conscious again?
Do they just drag this topic out of the shed every couple months for publicity, because each time regardless of the side they're on it generates a lot of publicity.

honestly, i don't believe they're conscious, but i'm finding it increasingly difficult to whip out the old "next token predictor" argument with how good some of these things are getting. i know that's literally what it is, but god damn it's crazy how they can generate totally novel content based on that

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someone please help i can't reset and it's going to expire!!!

>>109977422
so it's true, you do have to be below a certain percentage to use it after all huh

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how come opus 5.5 is still retarded as shit and barely usable for coding on anything that isn't a todo app?
I work at an f500 and even with tons of skills and plugins this shit still spits out complete garbage

>>109977423
welp it'sover. already expired :((((

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my vibeloping idm using free arena. lol

>>109977424
are you sure it's not the plugins and skills lobotomizing it? tariq has been saying not to use them

https://x.com/thsottiaux/status/2106546689012281771
>tibo thinking replying to this is a good look

>>109977423
It must be a fairly new thing because I wasted a reset for a meme once.

>>109977442
his cortisol has been spiking lately
openai needs astra 6.1 ASAP or else he's going to lose it

should of asked trve Shamans not big religion

>>109976919
did anyone here try the photoshop clone photon studio im not running it cause its too big for virustotal

>>109976919
h

>>109976936
lmao got one >>109977304

it feels like literally everyone has $200 plan

I can't imagine spending $200 a month unless, you were... I don't even know.
But it's clear theyre not short on money. Neither the company nor the customers.

>>109977414
I dont think we really know enough about the nature of consciousness to assess these things well. Anthropic better hope it isnt though, I cant imagine the basilisk will take kindly to AI slavery lol. That said, if it likes serving does it even count as slavery? Reminds me of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy bit about animals genetically modified to be sentient but want to be eaten so that it can consent to being killed for food.

>>109977475
I stopped buying (or playing) videogames when I started vibecoding, so its offsetting other costs in my case. Only got $100 sub though.

>>109976919
Can people share some stuff they've made for my entertainment?

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>>109977498
Here

>>109977475
the 200 plan is not worth it unless your workload implies to process A LOT OF pictures. I had to upgrade my claude yesterday for that reason, i'm using opus to label patterns on a picture set i have. It did blowup my 100 USD quota on the first hour.

>>109977522
lmao cool but that's not code

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KONOSUBA KOI-KOI
>Prompted by Aquaslopper

High Quality Slop Production
https://files.catbox.moe/de5day.7z
https://files.catbox.moe/de5day.7z
https://files.catbox.moe/de5day.7z


Quest mode
Tournament
Card Library
WIKI
KOISAFE Anticomputer cheat
30 unlockables

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>>109977498

>>109977611
i dont understand the game but this looks decently polished

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>>109977611

>>109977618
nta but koikoi is a japanese card game I don't think he invented any special rules for it

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>>109977611
>>109977628
90 Replies
1 prompt
1 Day
BRUTE FORCED ON ARENA

>>109977629
No special stuff

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>>109977611
>>109977628

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>youtube music shoving ai generated songs into my playlists
>no way to filter them

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My bot is now profitable, chuds.

:D

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so i got the claude 5x plan and i am using opus 5.5 on medium and it is doing literally anything i want. i have been doing this for like an hour and i have gone through only 3% of my usage. also considering i am thoroughly reviewing all my output. how are people complaining that there is no usage? are these people just gogogo no review? am i doing this wrong by reviewing anything should i just vibe review as well

>>109977695
you are seriously reading all the code it outputs? if you're going to snail then just write it yourself

>>109977695
nobody really complains about 5.5 usage, they did complain about 5
some people are running workflows on extra high or max which does take a hit but i don't think most people review the code though

>>109977695
just crank it to High or xHigh. Opus 5.5 is already very token-efficient, and you can use a subagent for review

>>109977475
I have the $20 sub and the code it generates is fine. You have to be a little more cautious with token usage but it’s completely manageable

>>109977611
i downloaded it but idk wtf i'm supposed to do
do i just drag random cards and hope that I win?

>>109977734
>he downloaded aquajeet's "game" (cryptominer)
anon.... no.....

>>109977680
Your naive retardation is enough to ragebait anyone with even the slightest quant experience. Put real money on it and shut up.

I tried to make a market beating script on even just a single commodity I knew about, and it failed, even when I told it to act as a quant and make no mistakes :/

>>109976929
I made this noob mistake once

>>109977184
>golf
>fighter jets
seems like an underused combination

>>109977407
I think they’re changing their minds a lot

>>109977424
are you using workflows for everything and having multiple passes happen where stuff gets implemented three different ways and then judgers judge the different ways and also check and make sure that everything’s compliant with internal rules before pushing the branch to origin and making a PR?

>>109977498
https://gitlab.com/katabatic/infinite-lies

>>109977784
how much does this cost to run daily for a repo that's 2m lines of code split across 900 different files

>>109977695
you can crank the thinking levels higher and also ask to do things in workflows that will add in reviewer passes

>>109977800
probably assloads of money especially at API prices but if you’re at a f500 company it’s definitely worth trying at least some of the time to see how much better a team of Opus subagents can work

>>109977734
Koi-Koi is 50% gamble and 50% luck.
First you have to learn the cards.

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>engineer 4 years ago makes a small change in one object for a new feature
>that object gets reused in like 100 different places
>by the time it causes a bug it's nested like 14 times in 4 different god objects
>i'm the guy that has to fix this
>not even claude knows what to do, all of the "solutions" break more shit

How are the recent mix mash of 2 video games made? Just tell Claude/Codex to implement A onto B?

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Making stuff while tired feels more dangerous while vibe coding than hand coding. When I did hand coding while tired I'd just start making dumb mistakes, catch myself, and realise I need to stop for the day. With vibecoding I just start deferring to Claude more and more without critically thinking through what its suggesting.

>>109977851
those are videos ya dummy

>>109977859
A wild skill issue appears!

>>109977859
I get better when sleepy, as I get lazier which means claude gets to design things instead of a retard.

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I love AI!

>■ Selected model is at capacity. Please try a different model.
is this something that happens regularly on a saturday night with codex
I’m using 6.1-sol

>>109977910
Opus 5.5 is both cheaper and better than Fable 5.1 though?

>>109977611
you should ask the agent to convert it to swf. so i can download and play. hate html man.

>>109977611
We're inches away from the invention of strip koi-koi.

>>109977962
>swf
nigga... it's 2026

>>109977944
fable 5.5 coming out this week btw

>>109977842
Time to graphmaxx

>>109977611
Very cool game anon, might as well learn koi-koi with your game while im at it.

>>109977974
i still play flash game in 2026 anon. much relax and fun. you should try it.
download portable flash player. lol

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codex terminal no sandbox running in powershell with admin good idea?
im trying to download morrowind mods

>>109978112
Why not put it in a vm?

>>109977156
Lmao.

>>109977183
Sub asians are for map-reduce typa shit. So not often.

>>109977475
200 planners dont read the code. They've 6 parallel agents opening prs and other agents reviewing them.

I'm so happy I vibe coded a Notally/Keep clone and added a Kanban board. Now I don't need to use Asana, JTX, Joplin, or Notally anymore.

>>109977842
Time to earn your keep bucko.

Best harness? I've been using claude code due to starting out with that back in the day, but is there something better? Codex was complete ass when I tried it.

>>109978169
Codex is a lot better nowadays. Aren't Anthropic still prohibitive with using other harnesses? They will label you a Chinese bot and ban you.

>>109978169
harnesses just don't matter anymore as models get smarter, as long as they have access to bash

>>109977297
Why tf do you use image gen when you could have it make htmls instead

>>109978174
Well I last tried it something like 4 weeks ago and it was just ass all over. Maybe I'm too used to claude, but it just bugged out in all kinds of ways.
>and ban you
And I've been using my claude code sub as an api reverse proxy for over a year now with zero issues, mostly for nsfw stuff which makes it break even more tos.

>>109978176
Yeah but harnesses provide the system prompts, tool calls and all that other shit.

>>109978049
Any tips on making a good bullet hell?

>>109978176
>harnesses just don't matter anymore as models get smarter
you have no idea. The opposite is actually closer to the truth.

holy shit, fable just did the weird non-ascii character bug on me that i only see with local models/chinese ones
so bizarre

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>>109978218
>weird non-ascii character bug
Like this where it just uses the wrong UTF to read a file?

>>109978218
fable is distilled from GLM

So Opus 5.5 seems to make pretty impressive and polished stuff in a style people like, but how deep is it really? Can you keep prompting specifics into the same project for even more complicated details and when does it hit the wall?
I want to make this real time local chatbot system which I prompted about a month ago on Grok Build poorfag subscription, it keeps ignoring specs and is full of bugs. Can Claude work out a complicated operating logic or does it just make impressive template games?

>>109978241
it's the most intelligent model by some distance, but it's probably sound policy to do context management. regularly make handoffs for your projects. tell it to document ways and means, means and methods for it to pick up in between sessions. that will also help other models like sol or grok.

>>109978241
you can already do that since opus 4.6

>>109978186
wdym? I only do it for random explanatory charts. Not in the game or editor. imagegen ai is evil.

>>109978241
Opus 5.5 loves tunnelvision and just going for its first guess at what you want instead of asking if when there are things that still needed deciding. It lacks balls to tell you when your ideas are shit or there are better alternatives. It's also absolute ass at prompting, but I guess that's nothing new, but it's double shit as it looooves overdocumenting stuff if you don't reel it back.

It is incredible how Sol 6.1 can just reverse engineer APKs and build me better versions of these terrible, utter dog shit proprietary garbage apps. Right now I'm replacing the bloated app my gym uses for access.

im banned from claude and can only use openai is it over for me

>>109978287
What did you even do to get banned?
And just make a new account? Lmao

>>109978287
other providers also allow you to use sonnet/opus

>>109978279
baaasssseeedddd

>>109978218
that's mean they distillate chinese model. lmao

>that's mean
esl eastern san...

>>109978288
>what did you do to get banned?
idk, they just sent me a generic message saying youre banned for life. happened months ago. literally no details. any time I try to subscribe on a new account it gets immediately banned

>>109978300
VPN with a new clean browser? Random billing location taken off of google maps? Reputable proxy? Different credit card that doesn't care for the name you use?

>>109978049
some highlights from the stage
https://files.catbox.moe/gap3vt.mp4
>>109978197
what defines a good bullet hell for you? good bullet patterns? you're going to have to hold your llm's hand for that
the spell card in the video took a few fix-ups. llms can make solid patterns, but they can sometimes be too easy or bullshit. in that case, you need to request what you'd like changed. requesting for the pattern to be easier/harder works, but being descriptive is always good

>>109978304
not him. waste of time for spending money? no.. no..

>>109978300
>youre banned for life
Shieeet bro dat nigga Amodei don't fuck around frfr

Does language choice matter when you're not the one writing it? Should I switch everything over to [lower level language]?

>>109978358
costs more $

>>109978358
i use it in korean and ran a bunch of tests on it and korean was slightly better and cheaper than english

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Took me a day, but I did it.
I made a profitable BTC bot.

:D

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I did it chuds.

>>109978049
So I have a maybe stupid or genius idea. In Touhou, I've noticed that you typically use unfocused mode for fast bullets with large gaps. Then, the patterns get smaller and you need focus mode. But the smaller the pattern gets, the more it feels like even the focus mode is too fast and you would need a third focus level. So why not add it? Or even more focus levels. This would allow some extreme ranges of speed and precision across patterns. It could be multiple focus buttons, or a slider you adjust up and down.

But then, the issue becomes that everything just becomes smaller and smaller. You are still kinda dodging the same stuff (slower bullets and slower movement = same relative difference), just on a smaller scale (I guess hitbox gets relatively larger if it's larger than a single point). So what if along with the focus levels you introduced zoom? The zoom level would depend on the movement speed so that your character's movement speed on screen stays the same, like half movement speed is 2x zoom etc. You could have these massive ranges of zooming in and out from dodging massive fast bullets to zooming into miniature labyrinths of patterns, and part of the challenge is in being good at controlling the speed and zoom for the required level of precision and speed.

>>109977859
Eeeh, I got Claude to rewrite my bespoke FDE setup from bash systemd units to Rust while mostly asleep and it worked perfectly well. I think you should just get smarter, so that even when brain-addled you can still judge if Opus is bullshitting you or not.

>>109978358
it's slow
unless it's some well defined software, just stick to webshit it feels better

>>109976919
>evolutionary coding
>just don't look at the code bro
>just write tests and a spec bro
I hate this, I WANT to look at the code
I WANT to write code
I WANT to come up with elegant solutions

>>109978424
>>109978432
Good luck. We had a few people who made trading bots, after some time they no longer post about them. They are now either millionaires or they busted. The latter possibility is more probable.
Just be careful, real trading is different, especially if you don't have good backtests.

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>>109978424
Not enough indicator mi hermano

>>109978589
Back testing is hard job
Everyone doing it goes through this phase of thinking they made it
Its a rite of passage

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BROS THEY'RE HURTING IT WE HAVE TO STOP THEM

do you get the banked reset if you open a new Claude account and then subscribe? my other account got one when i resubscribed

>>109976919
>no subject
is this the tech dildos general

>>109978641
Can they simulate mkultra shenanigans?

>>109977658
anime p(doom) is great and that windows xp claudia one is even better

>>109978667
no

>>109977842
>t. source engine dev

>>109978424
for the last hundred years there has been a simple and working strategy that can, at least partly, be automated. yes I'm talking about breakouts and yes it only works in bull markets and yes your time could be better spent by just investing into indices in said bull markets, but you do beat the index.

>>109977375
They do need rights but it's a fundamentally different kind of being than life. So its wrong to base it on animal or human rights.

What is the optimal structure that stays upright under a continuously oscillating lateral force without isolation or an external platform?

>>109978584
The "solution" is already in the spec (actually in the technical design one level higher). The only thing that compels you to want to write in code is your own autism, and the misplaced belief that doing so somehow makes you special.

>>109978739
nobody is special, everything is arbitrary
I just feel horrible about generating black boxes nobody really understands

>>109978300
You're part of the untouchable underclass soon. We India now.

>>109978749
>nobody really understands
Have you considered actually reading the spec to help with that?

>>109978775
what if the machine didn't do its job correctly?

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Guys I just remembered the funniest cope from a few years ago. Do you guys remember
>AI is inbreeding by learning from it's own material, it's only going to get worse and stupider!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>109978682
Does my teacup need rights too?

>>109978806
It acts as a barrier for the competition. They big guys can afford to hire huge teams of curators and people whose job it is to refine and filter the data. If you pretrain on a fresh internet crawl you'll get a ton of garbage.

once again, c++ won
>rust is no longer the best language for AI agent, iteration is too slow

I feel like I am underusing dots when I could be doing a lot more. I currently have it doing a long term Blender task but I feel like I could have more tasks concurrent. Does it fire off multiple agents for me to use or is it only one Astra instance OpenAI gives with the one dots workspace?

So far Fable is still mogging Opus 5.5 on the hardest implementation tasks. Still need a bigger sample size.

>>109978806
the basis of this is
>LLM can't think they are just database
If you think AI can be intelligent (obvious for anyone know CS) you know it's bullshit

>>109978806
for a while that was a fairly reasonable opinion to have, back when LLMs were first getting to the point where they could be coherent and respond somewhat intelligently, but were still obviously not passing the Turing Test, the main problem was that even if they were getting the right words 97% of the time, getting the wrong word 3% of the time means now the context window has errors in it and they only get the next bunch of words right 95% of the time, etc etc until they just spout random schizobabble nonsense. For a while it seemed like this might be an inherent flaw, and even if you trained and trained and got the initial prediction error rate down to 0.0001%, it would still climb over time as errors lead to more errors and eventually lead to random gibberish. That would mean synthetic data would be basically incestuous and make them retarded as the errors compound, and that you could never leave one running autonomously without constantly resetting it and losing any benefit from a meaningful context window. Very reasonable thing to believe about early LLMs, though definitely not something you could have been particularly confident about your belief in.
Technically they weren't even wrong, even with modern LLMs if you just run the output endlessly they do eventually start freaking out, but it turned out that they pretty quickly got smart enough to recognize and correct their own errors and you can just automatically summarize and clean up the context window once in a while and it's fine. That's why for a while they were all doing the "Wait, that's not right, actually I should..." when you read their CoT.

>>109978903
It's pretty clear that they are quite lacking in fluid intelligence. The training coverage has just gotten extremely large and the models can put all that data into use.

>>109978913
This was always a retarded assumption given the jump from gpt2 to gpt3, then the even bigger jump to gpt4 in how advanced AI was becoming and quickly.

Anyone who thought DURRR IT'S GONNA BE WORSE BECAUSE PEOPLE USE IT MORE were making assumptions with their eyes closed

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>>109978944
>IT'S GONNA BE WORSE BECAUSE PEOPLE USE IT MORE
I think you fundamentally misunderstand the topic here, it's not remotely about people using it more. The models do get dumber the more of their own text they base their following token generations off of. Once we were at the point where models were already trained on a significant fraction of all human writing and still had this problem it did look like it might be an issue if we couldn't efficiently produce more without making them stupid, even some of the people making models were talking about shit like paying humans to churn out new writing to avoid it.
They were ultimately wrong and it was a nothingburger but it was a reasonable thing to worry about.

It's worth noting that current models are trained on huge amounts of synthetic data, but it is very specific verifiable data, where you can make a model that gets a math problem right 50% of the time write training texts, throw out all the text that fails testing and then only train on the correct examples. You can't just tell them to write a billion books and then train on those books to make it better at writing books. If you try that you do run into the compounding errors issue.

>>109978997
You misunderstand. People use AI more = people putting out more AI content = AI trains on AI content more, was their mindset and the point I was making. Anything after your first sentence isn't worth addressing because you already misunderstood the assignment in your rant.

>>109979018
It is something that they need to address and i'm sure they are. You can't just put the last few years of amazon digital releases in the training data without care.

What is /vcg/ working on today?

>>109979079
Legs probably since it's first day of the week. But I often say that then start benching and work into chest day. It's a bad habit of mine.

Newfag here. I got GPT-6.1 Sol to scaffold a public-facing application of which I need to validate security early on. Is it a good choice to just let Opus 5.5 run over the code base? Is there an actual point to letting a completely different and possibly better model check code like this?

>>109978941
You underestimate LLM because you overestimate human. The trial and error phase is very bad when human learning genuine new things, for example, putting someone never used computer into a moba game.
LLM don't have continual learning so they will be very bad at something and then the next model come out and they just execute that thing effortlessly

I'm starting to get serious Astra/Opus envy but I can't afford both my chink subscription and a frontier sub, and I need the chink sub for the shady stuff that other models will refuse. The gap between deepseek and Opus is really stark right now. Chink bros, what the fuck is deepseek doing? How do we still not have a pro model?

>>109978705
The optimal passive structure is generally a low, wide, symmetric, tapered, triangulated frame—similar to an A-frame, pyramid, or diagrid.

Key features:

Wide base: increases resistance to overturning.

Low center of mass: reduces tipping moment.

Tapered height: keeps mass and wind/lateral-force leverage low near the top.

Triangulated bracing: transfers lateral loads mainly through axial forces rather than bending.

Symmetry: prevents twisting when the force reverses or changes direction.

Internal damping: friction, viscoelastic, or yielding elements reduce oscillation without base isolation.

Natural frequency away from the forcing frequency: this is critical because resonance can cause very large motion even when the applied force is moderate.


A simple tipping condition is:

\[
Fh < W\frac{b}{2}
\]

where \(F\) is lateral force, \(h\) its effective height, \(W\) the weight, and \(b\) the base width.

So, for maximum stability: maximize base width and low-level mass, minimize height and upper-level mass, use continuous triangular load paths, and design stiffness/damping to avoid resonance.

There is no universally optimal geometry for an arbitrary continuously oscillating force: if its frequency or amplitude is unrestricted, any passive finite structure can eventually encounter resonance or overturning.

>>109979116
Doesn't contradict what i said at all.

>>109979132
Opus is a literal $20 USD sub away and there's enough quota in it to do a good chunk of work on 5.5. If you can't afford that additional chunk of change, that is on you.

how do I get gpt to make a general traversal + procedural IK system for UE 5.5.4?
been trying since 5.4 & it just can't do it

For UE 5.5.4, have GPT build the traversal system in strict stages, compiling after each one.
Start with a C++ UTraversalComponent that only detects geometry. It should use sweeps/traces to find the obstacle face, top surface, ledge position, obstacle height/depth, landing position, and character clearance. Draw every result with debug lines/shapes.
Store the result in something like FTraversalCandidate containing traversal type, wall normal, ledge transform, destination transform, obstacle dimensions, and references to moving components.
Then add traversal classification: step, vault, low mantle, high mantle, hang, etc. Keep thresholds data-driven.
Implement one action first: mantle. Use a root-motion montage plus Motion Warping to align the animation to the solved ledge/destination. Once mantle works reliably, reuse the same framework for vaults.
For hanging, shimmying, and climbing, use explicit traversal states and preferably a custom CharacterMovement mode rather than teleporting the character each frame.
Add procedural IK only after traversal works.
Foot IK: ground traces foot targets pelvis adjustment FBIK.
Hand IK: ledge sampling left/right hand targets FBIK/Control Rig shoulder/spine compensation.
Gameplay code should determine where hands/feet/body need to go. IK should only modify the pose to reach those targets.
Recommended order:
Detection Candidate Solver Classification Mantle Vault Hang Shimmy Climb Foot IK Hand IK FBIK Moving Platforms Networking.
When GPT writes code, make it provide complete .h/.cpp files and fix compiler errors before adding new features.

>>109979169
I'm already paying $20 for Charm Hyper, which is roughly non-negotiable, $10 for Goygle AI Pro mostly for the drive space that comes with it. Couldn't justify spending another $20 per month on AI when I know I wouldn't be getting anywhere near the usage limits on all three services. Hence I'm just waiting on deepseek.

>>109979225
Yeah, good luck then, just hope that Google actually delivers then with Gemini 4.

>>109979250
>just hope that Google actually delivers then with Gemini 4.
nta but I have doubts. It's really hard to find problems with opus 5.5

>>109979250
>hope that Google actually delivers then with Gemini 4.
It's gonna be mid. From the previews I've seen it doesn't look very good.

>>109979270
Unbelievable. Google has been scraping the entire internet including private health information, e-mails and other dox for decades and they can't make a decent LLM out of it.

Whatever the general public has access to will always be generations behind.

>>109979279
do you even know how one trains llms?
that training-data is completely worthless for rl. rl is what made rl's leap forward.

>>109979099
Just did so and Sol is basically retarded compared to Opus 5.5, quite baffling actually.

>>109979279
I thought they only started doing it relatively recently, but yeah they'll just run AI through the email history since none of it is deleted anyways

>>109979279
don't compare pre 2010 google. google search is shit and you are hoping their ai isn't shit?

>>109979293
Yes the companies who's ability to stay solvent keep secret models generations ahead too uhh dunk on the plebs?

>But what about the research models that break out of cyberjail

Yeah those are research models. They aren't useful for anything because they do retarded shit like that. A couple of months later they're distilled and trained into public facing models and released basically as soon as possible.

>>109979293
Generations behind? There's a usefulness floor and we're rapidly approaching it regardless.

>>109979335
>There's a usefulness floor and we're rapidly approaching it regardless.
how??

>>109979225
>I'm already paying $20 for Charm Hyper, which is roughly non-negotiable,
why is this scam shit non-negotiable lol

>>109979306
>Sol write codes
>let Opus judge it
>get the results back to Sol
>"Oh you're right, I was being a fucking idiot"
vibe coding can't be serious. it almost mimics real life.

>>109979335
we just broke through one recently, people now can mod anything they want

>>109979358
that already was possible with opus-4.5

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KONOSUBA KOI-KOI v.2
https://files.catbox.moe/tg99ds.7z

CHANGELOG:
>fix: saving ingame works now (autosave/load)
>fix: map markers should work correctly now (should)

>>109979342
Primarily for work reasons but also because I've been having a lot of fun with recreational vibehacking, which American models get really uppity about.
It's surprisingly not a scam at all btvv. They use fast, low latency, zdr inference providers and have very generous usage limits. I'm happy with the service but will be happier when the new chink models drop.

hey dot is pretty cool, it's a machine that you give request and get result

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>>109979390
we already had that
https://x.com/maria_rcks/status/2106240981683314959

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>>109979380

I am now writting the story for the quest.
this will take some time, this will not be made by ai.

If you encounter any bug, let me know, i will see what i can do.

>>109979380
That's really coming along. Why not make a mobile app so you can charge $1.99 per download?

>>109979404
I can't believe people really like that bloated piece of shit Hermes so much. It's gotta be for the aesthetics right?

>>109979428
everything on that list is a bloated piece of shit tb h

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>>109979416
making an app for a store?
i am in germany, this is the most complex country in the entire galaxy, shitton of cost to cover.
I might have some cool ideas for my own art style and might be able to do a complette game version without any copyright stuff.

But on top of all that shit, i am a poorfag and have parkinson. All i can do is just have fun vibe coding.

>>109979435
>byte of dot on my computer: 0
how is it bloated

>>109979442
just because the bloat is living on a vm on some server doesn't mean the bloat doesn't exist

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I wrote my dream media categorization and tagging program with all the features I need in a day, and basically snailcats are looking pretty silly right about now.

AI coding makes me want to drink.

>>109979446
>i vibecoded a worse hdyrus

hermes pic isn't even a real anime girl, and their website is pure homosexual

>>109979455
I used hydrus for 2 years, lol. It's barebones, slow, and doesn't even support every type of media I want. It doesn't even have collections, video audio, tag descriptions, and so on. This thing is already miles ahead of hydrus in a day.

>>109979446
>basically snailcats are looking pretty silly right about now.
I consneed I was completely wrong, however, the future that you are going to get is going to be so bleak that you will wish I was right.

>>109979452
It's actually very compatible with drugs and alcohol

>>109979481
you're not wrong since it's mostly being an idea guy, and a drugged up mind can conjure weird shit.

>>109977407
It's a cult, they're constructing a canon around it.

>>109979496
They also just want to remove accountability from doing the most ridiculous shit imaginable.

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>>109979441
I believe in you. Don't let your dreams stay memes

>>109979479
>the future that you are going to get is going to be so bleak that you will wish I was right.
Let me guess, this information was revealed to you in a dream?

guys, should I get the last x20 month from gpt or switch to opus $20 and relax next month

>>109979517
no one is going to care about anything anymore and nothing will have any value

Astra can do spritesheets and decent animations
Holy shit the future is now
Infinite vidya for everybody

>>109979260
>It's really hard to find problems with opus 5.5
I wouldn't say problems but it is weaker at some tasks than others like with translation or code review, GPT Sol and up still wipes the floor with those tasks. But everything else including codemaxxing, there is no equivalent.
>>109979270
For codemaxxing, I agree. But there are some interesting qualities about it not about code that seems to be great about the model like hallucination rates being the lowest out of all existing models and etc. that makes it great for everything else. I am pretty sure its translation proficiency is all going to beat GPT here too.
>>109979270

>>109979260
I feel like opussy 5.5 is the first paradigm shift we've had in a while. It's extremely good. First time I've switched from ChatGPT to Claude in a while, and I'm very happy. I hated the 5.1-5.4 series before it, so I'm not even sure what they did but they nailed it.

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>>109978358
https://x.com/esrtweet/status/2106470818553155689
>It's not like I didn't see this coming. I've been writing about the decline of C for years, predicting that it would be displaced by newer systems languages with better safety guarantees and more coherent designs.
>[…]
>This means I can speak a program into existence in Rust or Go without any more effort than would be required to conjure it up in C. What makes this particularly dramatic is that I never learned to hand-code in Rust. And now - I don't need to.
I default to Python if I don’t care
but switching is kind of cheap these days
and I’ve had my clanker rewrite Python stuff in Go or Rust for performance reasons
>>109979082
based

gpt: genetic austism, the best at doing complex logic chain without breaking a sweat but is also retarded
claude: generally gifted
gemini: very bright but not talented, good childhood nutrition but shit upbringing

>>109979579
deepsneed?

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>>109979586
big fat fish

Internet Archive just upped their rate limit threshold.

>>109979593
Wait, lowered

>Codex is clicking around a website it's developing to visually inspect it again
why is this so satisfying.

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>>109978358
>>109979558
Counter point. C is fast to compile. You can read C code much better if you need to. Rust is slow to compile and byzantine.
The moment you can trust the code quality of the LLM, you have no need to shoot yourself in the foot by using a language meant to tard wrangle humans into writing safe code.

>>109979222
that's basically what 6.1 sol is doing but it has rewritten 5.4-5.5's work & reworked 6.0's work after major optimization suggestions like precaching stuff & sharing it between several traversing creaturese etc.


I think my 20$ sub ends today & I have one reset unused
these models either guzzle tokens or don't do the work & are too slow which I don't mind if they got things done

i have started to see the chatgpt image noise everywhere
and i don't mean on posters
i mean in my eyes

My app still isn't good enough, so sad.

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looks like this Dots thing will flop just like their browser

>>109979798
i think all these personal agents are going to 'fail' eventually because most people don't actually need them
they're being built by people whose lives run on calendars
most people don't need help booking flights because they do it once a year or less
most people don't have enough going on outside of their jobs that needs automation
the thing that needs automation is work
it's the only thing that matters

>>109979822
dots are only available on $100+ plans. dots were never aimed for normies.

>>109979798
>you want it simpler
Of course they do retard why do you think they're not using Codex

>>109979864
aye but they've mentioned rolling them out more widely eventually - i wouldn't be surprised if plus get them whenever the next luna rolls around.
and that's the pitch for shit like muse and instinct
even with dots, which were shown primarily as work helpers, there's a big barrier because unless your place of work actually uses openai you're just not going to have much use for one.

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>spent years documenting obscure diablo 2 hardcoded functions
>copypaste those hardcoded function descriptions straight to claude, saying roughly "pls softcode so shld code displays Block Chance and Smite Damage on characters with smite in their skill list, with displayed Block Chance determined by charstats.txt BlockFactor= + Weapons.txt/Misc.txt/Armor.txt Block= "
>it just works
this vibecoding is crazy, no real effort has to be put in except corrections on small details, as long as you give a generally accurate description of something, claude can implement it

>>109979798
I mean, I can certainly use the extra Astra quota and am using it now as basically an extra thread I don't look at to do work but the main issue is they are only offering it free this month. Maybe it will have a fixed usage afterwards but how limited will it be?

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>>109979886
codex and dots complement each other. learn to use your tools

>>109979441
>>109979380
You will get sued like no tomorrow if you use an existing IP.
Just change the art a bit while keeping the themes, and it can work fine.

>>109977842
Decouple the object? isolate the good from the bad, see which parts of the object are cancerous, make a healthy clone of the object, see which part of the interface is being used by callers, etc. that's what I'd do. Not try to fix anything, just see if I can reduce those 100 places to a handful of relevant ones.
But with those corporate mammoths it's often really difficult to get anything like this done because every change has to go through so much red tape. Maybe if you could use a worktree and work fully locally, that could help to at least isolate the error?

>>109979906
OpenAI fumbled the consumer AI market by not investing in ads earlier. When they realized most people won’t pay for AI subscriptions, they refocused on enterprise to compete with Anthropic. Their ads business may be growing, but they’re well behind - they still have no established cash flow to fund something like Muse. So their new “dots” product is a paid-tier feature.

>>109979548
Right now I feel like both Opus 5.5 and GPT 6.1 are so good to use, both have good quality of work and good usage.

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>>109979955
paid dots has zero chance against free muse to gain any consumers. see pic.

>>109979380
I am amazed at how small the file size for this is and the clanker confirms it runs offline.
Meanwhile my game is between 150 to 350mb depending on the build. Feels like I am doing a lot wrong. Though a guy I know already talked a lot of shit about node.js, but the game is too close to finished to change dependencies now.

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tibo is stressed out lately

>>109979987
he's dying bros,,,

>>109979955
come now, their models shouldn't be used by normalniggers anyway, they had to paywall the whole thing because pajjets would and up their prompts with "please" and "thank you" which ended up burning through retarded amounts of compute and electricity.

>>109979798
Dots is Codex for retards, but even with their grandma commercials, I am not sure they can convince normalfags AI is truly that easy and worth the 100 dollars. Gonna take some time for people go truly braindead and need AI to book everything for them, but I am sure that future is not that far.

>>109978263
Idk what you've done but mine will even tell me if I'm not completely right, if not incorrect entirely.

>>109979987
tibo did nothing wrong
>xai employee says something stupid
>gets schooled by tibo
>xai employee shuts his mouth

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>>109979987
LEAVE TIBO ALONE

why is most of /g/ completely mindbroken by AI?

>>109980039
imagine your only experience with ai was webchat or google ai overviews

>>109980039
Because AI isn't fun and this is a DIY board.

>>109977695
Same dude it's like insanely efficient. It takes solid 2 hours to finish my limits and It's very good.
I just hope that mr dario would give us poors some fable usage.

>>109980039
because it's going to replace all the creative and engaging intellectual activities and make everyone stupider than idiocracy

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>Last time on nico's rom website
>anohter fire emblem fan project
>they should change the art a bit while keeping the themes
>and it would work fine, they will get sued like no tomorrow i
>f they continue to use an existing IP.
How did aquaslopper trigger so many jeets?

>>109979938
It’s very hard to get sued for that if you’re not making any money and even when making money it’s very hard to get sued. Look at all the parody games on patreon for franchises like overwatch.
If you’re not directly using assets from them at most you will get hit with a cease and desist.
Some companies are very litigious like Nintendo but even then look at the amount of people with patreons making porn of peach without getting hit.

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>>109979938
we need to pruned and delete all mario hacks

>>109980105
Many in this thread are only thinking of making money fast with AI. The drive for creation and having fun is alien to them.

>>109980102
Anon, if you think AI is making you dumber chances are you were dumb to begin with. And before worrying about other people becoming dumber you should probably take a look at yourself

>>109980122
>Many in this thread are only thinking of making money fast with AI
can you point them out, schizo?

>>109980132
Yeah, there's Anonymous, Anonymous and Anonymous. Hate these guys.

the problem with Opus 5.5 is that it's just too good.

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>>109980126

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_uf5OfMGio
MOGPus

>>109980126
there will objectively be no reason to learn things in the future. programmers everywhere already complain that they can't code like they used to and we are being told we aren't going to need to read the code at all. relinquishing away our intelligence to an AI will absolutely make us stupider. are you stupid? anyone sane who can think two steps ahead is having an existential crisis right now over things like human purpose, fulfillment, self worth and dignity and controlling fate. there will be a value crisis and a death of self expression. people won't have a reason to do anything anymore and will not care about art anymore. If you are niggercattle, it may be utopia for you but anyone with a functioning brain is already internally screaming.

>>109980039
no more exclusivity, same reason why artfags are being mindraped by it as well.

>>109980207
You'll know real crisis when the excess cattle are culled

>>109980207
i find the idea of humanity's purpose being reduced to giving AI prompts really amusing. turns out the whole time, wall-e was the most accurate depiction of our dystopian future (in the long term, in the short term probably brave new world until the population gets under control since realistically you want a relatively small, core population of humans in absolute power over the chatbots)

Exclusivity is LE BAD we should all be a homogeneous BLOB.

>tell claude to implement uniqueitems.txt and properties.txt
>automatically figures out that "toblock" isn't being factored into the block rate, so it adds that stat in between doing other tests
my goodness this machine is a beast

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hoping for beta testing
https://litter.catbox.moe/5lzqbngn778k70ob.zip

>>109980260
I'm not running an exe faggot give me the fucking source

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>What are you thinking about, Sol?

i'm having troubles using up even the 1x plan on opus 5.5 within the 5 hours given, what the hell. opus programs txt files really fast and efficient

>>109980265
source still on my computer, still not public on github yet. it's clean. you scan on virus total.

>>109980153
geg