>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

Tier-list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://borecraft.com/
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder
HDD pricing: https://www.listofdisks.com/

>HDR related
Game fixes:
https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods
https://github.com/KoKlusz/HDR-Gaming-Database
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/display-graphics/calibrate-your-hdr-display-using-the-windows-hdr-calibration-app

OLED news:
New stripe RGB QD-OLED panels with higher maximum brightness releasing in 2027 (DisplayHDR True Black 600 certified).
https://global.samsungdisplay.com/31456
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/oled-rgb-stripe-panels-explained-should-you-wait

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i'm probably going to either die or go to jail before i build my pc

>>109985288
Tf ???

>>109985288
We're all gonna make it brah

For our fellow Europoors, just scored a ryzen 7600x for €120, amazon.es offer, amazon.de is doing €129
Hopefully they'll be offering some sweet deals on mobos and PSUs come tomorrow

>>109985223
>Thanks for the answer. Would you recommend a 27" or a 32" monitor for the 4k? O read that 4k + 27" can look sharper, but ideally it should be 32" or something
(Cross-reply) I recommend 27" 4K as that reduces the pixel pitch (black distance between pixels) and raises pixel density the most for the sharpest image. You can compensate for a smaller than 32" screen by simply phsyically moving it closer to your field of view but you can't do the opposite to add resolution that isn't there.

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>>109985288
buy a dell or lenovo

Does sn1800 actually have any improvements in gaming over like Samsung or other major names?

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>>109985401
Last time I checked, Directstorage benchmarks didn't show enough of a difference between PCIe 3.0 and PCIe 4.0 to make it worth purchasing the more expensive option, let alone PCIe 5.0
Focus on price, write endurance, warranty, etc, instead

>>109985401
Nope, they're all same-ish

>>109985427
What’s the cheapest most durable 4tb or higher drive then

>>>/mu/131745492
>>>/mu/131745492

does dram mostly matter for where the OS it's installed or for where your games are located too?

>>109985493
Lexar nm790
Avoid qlc trash

>>109985522
OS partition does better on dram drive
everything else goes on your hmb drive

>>109985542
You're not writing several hundred gigabytes of data to your SSD every day, anon

>>109985583
>He doesnt know

https://www.techpowerup.com/353370/modder-solders-dual-8-pin-board-to-rtx-5090s-16-pin-header-wires-stay-below-40-c
lol

>>109985583
>https://www.notebookcheck.net/Slower-than-an-SD-card-under-heavy-load-iPhone-18-Pro-Max-s-QLC-storage-gets-tested.1403886.0.html

>>109985569
thank you

>>109985542
Here's your TLC ssd, bro
https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/crucial-e100-1-tb.d2307

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when i learnt that DLSS and FSR performance at 4K look better than DLSS and FSR quality at 1440p i regretted the day i was born into this world

>>109985731
Just become a consolefag and accept 4k at 30fps, my nigga

>>109985735
>4k at 30fps
KEK that's literally what they did with the xbox one x
i know you're memeing but i wanna mod games and for a poorfag the point of having a pc over a console is PIRACY ahoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HzHFSxRcro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HzHFSxRcro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HzHFSxRcro

Youre not getting any consumer GPU soon. Better cancel your car orders and buy RTX PRO instead

>>109985794
Nigga will defend trump and vote for him again btw

>>109985255
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Rkfcsu6aCnY

>>109985794
I'll pass, I already bought a 3090

>>109985838
Niggas*

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>>109985838
>the president has influence on
>*Checks notes*
>GPU and RAM prices
Could anyone even articulate as to how things would be different under a different admin. It's clearly not government forcing investors and big tech to basically had over billions in cash to Nvidia and DRAM fabs

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>>109985288
I went from considering if I should buy a 5090 build to considering if I should just abandon my living and go live in the woods due to life plans collapsing before eyes in the past year dealing with these chronic stressors
focusing on just surviving again
(it's over)

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First time posting in the general. I have a question about upgrading the CPU.
>France // no budget concern, no energy limitations

My mobo is an Asus B-360 Plus that dates back to March of 2018, it's pretty much ancient at this point. Supports only DDR4 up to 2666MHz, PCIe 4.0, it even has the dual-GPU support from back when it was still a thing... It wasn't a bad choice when I bought the PC in 2019, but anyway I'm not looking for a mobo upgrade because it still does the job and I already have a full pretty strong rig.

My CPU is an i7-9700F and since I bought a 9700XT recently I'm thinking of trying to push my current build to its best potential to limit bottlenecking and so on. But it's not just for gaming because I produce music and I found also recently that launching a bunch of plugins at the same time cooks my CPU and it forces me to fucking micro my workflow...
So I checked online what CPU would be best suited, and I found that I could theoretically put an i9-9900K and just enjoy the thing... But I'm wondering because I have the mobo's user manual in front of me: it says it only supports CPUs up to i7, but *pangoly dot com* says it supports i9 according to Asus themselves (but I can't verify it myself because the mobo is discontinued from their website). Is the info reliable? I just know the socket is 1151, so it should fit, right?
If so I'm also wondering if it's just a good idea. I don't mind spending 400€ for a device, but if I gain just ~25% of performance according to benchmarks, is it really a good idea?

I checked the benchmarks, I barely know how to read this stuff. What can you tell me?
Buy or not?

>>109986764
buy a 13900k or 14900k and a ddr4 mobo
or a 13700k or a 14700k or something
if you gonna do the ddr4 cope

Would it have been psychopathic to keep my 4090 displayed on a shelf when I bought a 5090 a year ago? I sold it and now I regret it

>>109986849
being attached and sentimental over random objects is pretty fucking gay yeah

>>109986849
Just get a 6090 so your 5090 can go on the shelf

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>look into other 4K MiniLED monitors again after returning the TCL 27C2A
>MUB claims no annoying dealbreaker flaws
>TEN millisecond native response times
>people on the internet saying they returning their KTC or Koorui for one reason or another and getting the MSI or AOC instead
>lack of features, color gamut, and less dimming zones, the only thing they have going for them is a brighter or contrastier dimming algorithm
Maybe TCL really was the best I could get after all as it just want up in price again...

>>109986799
I am gonna cope because RAM is stupidly expensive and I already have 32GB.
Okay I didn't consider even switching mobo for an even better CPU revision. Pretty sure all the mobos available in my cunt anymore are DDR4 anyway. Honestly I will take a gander.
Thanks for your reply.

>>109986953
it's the best you are gonna get unless you buy a ddr5 bundle with a 9800x3d or something

>>109986951
just forget about miniled cope
if you cared about ms you would bouighted oled

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>move system to another motherboard
>steam controller input breaks

>>109986799
So I quickly checked the CPUs you suggested and their compatibility with all the mobos available in my country. Stuff doesn't compute, doesn't blend. I'm looking at at least 1200€ total, sure for a significant improvement, but I don't want to re-install my two OSs and backup all the software and files and all that.
I was looking for a small but sensible upgrade which is why I asked. I'm still on the verge of ordering the 9900K, I was kinda looking for somebody to push me over the edge.
>>109986981
Yeah so like I'm saying, at first glance it's not that simple at least here in France. Maybe if I search on smaller stores or in different countries, or straight up on Amazon by recouping sources and tech details.
The best in the world is not what I'm after. I try to make the most of what I've already got. But you got me on a track.

>>109986764

Nah, I did some research I get where I got things wrong now. It's not a good idea to put an i9 in the B-360 Plus, the mobo will also bottleneck the CPU. It also demands a bit of tweaking, it won't work out of the box, might also have to underclock it, it would be wasting 400€
I will look for another way to modernise my rig. Thanks for caring.

>>109986981
>if you cared about ms you would bouighted oled
If I have to use it for movies and games only to save on its lifespan then it's an expensive toy. I need brightness.

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>buy mini led to have better uniformity and less vignette over normal LCDs
>It might actually almost worse sometimes because they probably did not place LEDs along the edge of the screen
u wot m8

>>109987172
>better uniformity and less vignette
take the qdoled pill

hey all i'm having a weird ass windows 11 bug not long after putting my new pc together, it's this bug where file explorer is totally broken. it's almost like the tab key is broken and will just cycle through whatever assignment it's on. like it'll just keep going down the list of video files in a folder for example and me pressing the arrow keys or clicking on a different file won't stop it. i also noticed that folders don't immediately disappear when deleted, and i have to refresh to make the change stay.

i thought it was the mouse or keyboard but unplugging them doesn't do anything. windows update didn't do anything, and i thought it was my corsair ram XMP mode but not really. any advice?

it also doesn't happen in pop up windows when going to save a pic in this reply box, for example too. only really in file explorer. really gets in the way of trying to move files around and whatnot

>>109986218
She's just brown, poor, and coping

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Back after considering the CPU upgrade. Anon is right, at this point why fucking bother with a 2018 mid mobo.
So what I'll do, when I can afford it, is gut my machine to replace the key parts that make it a slug.

RAM : Corsair DDR5 CL36 6000MHz
Vent: Noctua NH-U12A
Mobo: ASUS Prime X870-P
CPU: 9850X3D

Total is a bit above 1200€.
3 times the price of what I had in mind but hopefully 3 times the performance. If I sell the used hardware to the computer raccoons I can make it a sub-1000€ home improvement.
I already have a 1000W modular PSU, the wi-fi card, the case, and drives.

What do you think? Good idea?

>>109987380
Amazon Spain is offering 6000cl30 ram for cheaper than that
https://www.amazon.es/-/en/gp/aw/d/B0F951RPSH

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>>109987394
Right but it's "KLEVV"... I trust Corsair for my drives already,
But I dunno. Re**it says to avoid Corsair on AMD and CL30 is more stable, so...

Upsides and downsides?
I won't over/under-clock, I just want something that works, nevermind the price.

>>109987380
>>109987394
OH NO wait it's Crucial (for the Amazon RAM and my drives)! I don't have Corsair.
It's not Corsair, but yeah I'll be doing some research. Thanks for the heads up.

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Yeah so KLEVV is apparently the commercial brand of SK-Hynix, the well-known RAM chip manufacturer if you've ever upgraded the stock RAM of a laptop for instance, competitor of Samsung and Micron.
>>109987394
Same deal on Amazon France.
Thanks!

Hynix memory is king especially if it's dual rank

>>109987394
>>109987475
Hynix is really good.
But I checked the Amazon reviews of the X870-P mobo I'm sighting, and apparently there's trouble with the RAM if it's not advised by ASUS. I'll have to see if KLEVV/Hynix are doable on the machine.

>>109987394
if it's klevv, anon might get screwed over by dual rank 2x16gb ram. then he won't be able to giga clock it to 8000mhz cl36 on zen6/zen7 in future

>>109987516
Hynix ram is certified to work on all AMD boards. The only ones with ram issues are vendors that used the wrong trfc when AMD switched refresh modes (trfc2 or sb set to 1 for example) Klevv/Hynix uses the correct trfc.

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>>109987520
ram speed hardly makes a difference on x3d, what you want is lower latency so the cpu spends less time waiting

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>hardware unboxed claims all these monitors are "quantum dot enhanced"
>look inside
>literally none of them are
How can a major reviewer get an important fact like this so blatantly wrong? An actual QD-Mini LED will have a measurably wider color gamut closer to 100% for Adobe RGB and DCI-P3, which these displays don't get close to.

>>109987411
>Avoid Corsair for AMD
>Avoid Asrock for AMD
>Avoid certain CPU coolers for AMD
Does AMD just suck? Wtf is this.

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>>109987520
Haha yeah nah I'm not clocking.
>>109987528
I'm downloading manuals, recouping sources, doing the algorithmic work of a synthetic intelligence inside of my head right now.
Damn I went too far.

Actually the KLEVV 6000MHz aren't supported for EXPO. I'll have to downgrade the RAM a little bit, which is okay I guess.

>>109987548
Fucking AMDrones, man. I only switched teams for AMD recently, I was intel/Nvidia until both stopped being good. But the AMDrones are like that, I wonder why.
Maybe because it's the poorfag's choice and poorfags are notoriously retarded. Or it's because the shit you can do with AMD is so huge there must be some guy out there who has a random problem. But my AMDfags friends don't have any issues surprisingly enough, they run massive shitty games with dogshit hardware and it works.

>>109987591

I barely understand what the fuck I'm reading now that I'm researching. I mean I get it, but I get that it's not really interesting. Crucial don't offer interesting clocking software support either.
I think I'll stick with the quality-price ratio of good RAM. KLEVV are nice.

>>109987591
>it's because the shit you can do with AMD is so huge there must be some guy out there who has a random problem
Kinda the opposite.
You can be a regular user and get bit with various AMD specific issues.
I was very close to thinking about giving AMD a chance until I heard about shit from a coworker.

I almost drank the koolaid again. Last time I touched AMD (GPUs) listening to the "community' I felt like I really got bit and it almost made me quit gayming.

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I think I did pretty well with cable management, what do you think guys

Is Amazon a safe place to order stuff from if you are in Europe, compared to local retailers? How are warranty claims and returns handled?

>>109987727
Mamma Mia it's the computer spaghetti

>>109987644
I swear my AMDudebro glazes this brand like it birthed his children. Can't tell what GPU he's using though, he doesn't know the model or brand... "Uhhh I think it's a 6GB but it runs Diablo 4 dude." Alright you doofus.
My brother only games on laptops but always goes for AMD for the CPU if he has the choice, and I agree.
Myself I changed GPU for a 9070XT and because it's compatible with my monitor I'm very happy with it. But I'm launching this general into orbit because it's bottlenecked by the rest of the config. So now I won't just change CPU, I'll go overkill for once, and I'll go AMD for the CPU because at this point I think Intel aren't doing a proper job and are asking too much. AMD give you an affordable premium experience.
>listening to the "community' I felt like I really got bit
I'm sorry, Anon. That's something I don't do. I just look at what the professionals show on the benchmarking sites and I follow my instinct.
First was discovering Display Port is way better than HDMI and the community said there's some multiverse shit happening in the audio/video transmission that makes it better than DP. Nevermind the fact you can run a 4K signal at 240hz for three times cheaper, "HDMI is better"...
Then it was finding out AMD has Freesync which is usual in mid-range monitors and Nvidia just don't give a shit. Now I'm using Freesync, with my shitty rig it launches games at "500fps", literally. Never read about Freesync/G-sync ever in my whole life, finding it out you have to instinctively snoop around every setting and info online by yourself.
But it's good to always think twice. Only the very recent, last AMD GPUs are worth something. Even the 7900XTX is a bit shit in my opinion.

>>109987750
Always use caution when ordering from there, but I have personally never had any problem at all ever receiving stuff from Amazon themselves or a hosted shop or even a third-party seller. Or, actually...
When I say "use caution" I mean make sure the box is not damaged before opening it. Maybe ask your girlfriend to film the opening while you do. That's to make sure you can justify a complaint.
But otherwise... A friend of mine ordered a pre-built from an Amazon shop (not Amazon itself), as the shop also had a primary website but offered different and better deals on Amazon, for her first proper gaming PC. The PC came in working condition but was setup like a motherfucker, like the mobo wasn't properly encased in the machine, they said there would be a wi-fi card but it was a shitty USB dongle, and the Win11 license wasn't activated. But the thing worked and was pretty cheap. Eventually we had to put the finishing touches and it was a piece of work.
So it depends, I'd say 9 times outta 10 it's great. Especially if it's just ordering a device you setup yourself. If you order a service from Amazon it's different.
>How are warranty claims and returns handled?
I heard if there's a problem with delivery they hire a killer to wipe out the delivery guy's whole family... For returns I suppose it's correct as well. But for the warranty you'll have to look with the product's manufacturer, I don't think Amazon takes that in charge.

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>>109987157
oled tvs beat miniled in hdr
simple as

>>109987890
>Graying boomer with failing eyesight refuses to get eyeglasses, gets bigger monitor, instead
Many, many such cases

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>>109987920
monitors can't give you THE brightest saturated colors with highest color
simple as

>https://www.amazon.ca/Gawfolk-Screen-Gaming-Monitor-160Hz/dp/B0GKX5T3GB
should I take the gamble on this pos

>>109987928
Quantum Dot Mini LED monitors can absolutely do it, their only hard limitation is heat dissipation. HDR 1600 requires active cooling in a small form factor.

>>109987928
Looks pretty good on my IPS screen

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>>109987990
miniled tvs dont beat oled tvs
monitors cant

>>109987846
I'm thinking about ordering a monitor from Amazon to test out so I'll read around beyond the return policies to see if our customer protections apply. I already duct tape a camera to my head when unboxing stuff regardless.

>>109987757
thanks I tried

>>109988030
Yeah, cause TVs are bigger and so can pump brighter light levels. Video link?

>>109988030
that graph shows the bravia 9 ii neck and neck with the s95h tho

What to do when you love the sharpness of 4k but are unwilling to spend $7k on a 5090 to run 4k?

>>109988113
You don't need a 5090 for 4K

>Muh brightness
Monitors are not a substitute for going outside, fool
The LED will never match the feeling of the sun shining into your eyes

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>>109988109
the brightnest normie tv can barely keep up and still losing in overal scene brightness and ghosting and not infinte contrast
literally just a 24fps content tv

>>109988104
>video link
i dont know the x11l review on the displayguy channel maybe

>>109988113
buy a 4k tv and cope until the 6090 release

>>109988113
Play at 1440p but increase the sharpness

>>109988194
horrendous for compslop maybe

I have two stripped down, secondhand computers - both micro-ATX, if I'm not mistaken.

One has a A10 5800K and the other has an i7 2600K. Both should have a working, corresponding cooler. As far as memory, I have several sticks of DDR3, a few HDDs, and a couple SSDs to spare. Neither mobo supports M.2 and I only have one working, 300W PSU - the other one (750W) I gave away to and then borrowed from an old neighbor of mine, and it may be defective. I also took all the case fans from one of these two spare computers and put it into my main rig for maximum cooling.

I also still have my old R9 390 that I'm considering using to learn and practice GPU cleaning, since it may be a little bit broken (but it still outputs video and runs okay-ish).

Any cool, fun, creative, and/or useful ideas on how to repurpose one (or both) of these machines?

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>>109988482
>165hz tv
>competitive gaming
(pic unrelated)

Is the r5 5600 worth it over the 5500 at 2x the price?

I'm a goyim, I don't deserve to own anything, everything in my life should work around subscription based models, from the way I acquire toilet paper, food, toothpaste etc. to the way i operate technology too

>>109986733
Society is rotten so sounds like a good plan but isolation is really bad for mental health, we're kinda cooked

>>109988973
buy it off aliexpress

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>thinking about buying the KTC M27P6 instead because DisplayHDR 1400 certification, MUB supposedly says it prefers brightening at the expense of contrast, more towards highlight bias
>thinking it will solve all my HDR reservations of the TCL
>look at the TFT central review
>black crush, same as the TCL on top of an even more locked down OSD somehow as opposed to what I was expecting based on reports
>motion performance is shit, backlight strobing is limited to SDR, locks locks, can't tweak color RGB/CYMK values in the OSD in HDR mode, 60hz zone flickering, issues none of which are present on the competing 27C2A from TCL
AAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEE

>>109988113
I see kids on YouTube tweaking their arc b580s to run shit at 4K, XeSS + high settings go a long way.

>>109989194
You will never amount to anything

>>109988113
Become a 7900 XTX god.

>>109989347
If you can't afford both a B580 and therapy, I suggest going for the therapy.

>>109989150
There's people enjoying themselves right now on 60Hz IPS panels, just saying.

>>109989419
I can't go back to 1080p edge lit IPS after trying the TCL 27C2A even in SDR with local dimming off, I just can't. I already planned on selling my existing monitors for what pennies they are still worth.

I would just buy an OLED but I hate how dim they are and they defeat the purpose of HDR for me. But it seems to me due to availability there are just no good options on the market right now, even though I'd probably be content with daily driving the TCL right now as I was for many days in many situations.

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>
>Certain high-brightness VA Mini-LED models released globally (such as AOC's larger 4K U32G4ZMN) face restricted or delayed direct distribution in Europe due to stringent EU energy efficiency standards.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WhCJph

I want to get it as a project building computer with FPGA (field programmable gate array) and SDR (software defined radio)

I like the case a lot cause I can add drives and also camera card readers.

>>109989524
Anon, we're goyim, we aren't allowed to use too much electricity, all the electricity belongs to our overlords the data centers owners, know your place like I do and you'll be happier

If you had 11k to burn, would you buy a gpu server rack with 7 3090s, 384gb ddr4 2400, in a supermicro 4028gr chassis, 24bay ssd
The only downside I see is that it is PCIe3.0. I'd basically be buying the GPUs and getting everything else for free? Anything else I should consider? I want a killer AI machine

>>109985731
that's what happens when you listen to "native" retards that thing TAA trash is good.

watching OP's self justification unfold over time

>>109989737
nicofag at it again

>>109989712
>dlaa
>fsr native aa

>>109985731
Protip: you can render a game at 4K using DLDSR or AMD equivalent and downscale it to 1440p, and the increase in picture quality will be noticeable.

>>109986951
I do not know what miniled monitor shills get oiut of it I can only think they are genuinely being paid

>>109989786
But if my gpu can barely do 60fps with everything maxed out (no any of that rt stuff tho) In newer games, even if doing this doesn't affect performance that much, it'll still take me out of the 60fps sweet spot, right?

>>109987548

AMD MOTHERBOARDS ARE TRASH ESPECIALLY AM5

Zen6/nova lake can’t come out soon enough

>>109989879
Don't get too excited about nova lake
And don't get too excited about zen6, it's gonna be expensive

>>109989891
Im willing to spend if the product is good, Arrow lake/zen4/zen5 are very underwhelming. Zen6 on TSMC N2 is exciting.

>>109987546
the MSI claims it does https://uk.msi.com/Monitor/MPG-274URDFW-E16M/Specification

>>109987750
Amazon is just a 3rd party marketplace now I wouldn't buy anything on there unless the shipper/seller is amazon directly and outside of prime day/black friday sales that almost never happens now. For CPUs they are generally still good. Coolers, fans, stuff like that is fine. RAM used to be okay but it's total scam town now I would not get ram off it any more, same with SSDs. HDDs are some of the worst because Amazon will constantly list used drives as new for some reason. GPUs forget about it, all scammers. For cases they can be okay because lots of 1st party manufacturers will list on amazon and you will be ordering with the company that built it. They are good with returns delivery is great if it's Amazon but they can also outsource to terrible companies too - if it says "Dispatches from Amazon" that just means the product was in one of their centers and they can hand it off to any delivery company they want.

>>109989819
but AM4 had all the USB disconnect issues. AM5 is worse? how? lol

>>109989524
yeah i found that out for myself last week when I was looking at that monitor, fucking bullshit

most monitors get around this by shipping them in some default low power eco mode but sometimes they just won't fucking bother to even do that and just not release it instead

>>109989879
yes we need $1000 CPU and $1000 MOBO

>>109990007
Realtek Ethernet causing high dpc
No BIOS quality control

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>>109987548
>Does AMD just suck
yes, but they're better for gaming so they get a pass

>>109990057
yes AMD gaming is unbelievably good. Nvidia gaming is fake by comparison.

I have an intel cpu and an amd gpu, and find both fine, what does that make me?

>>109990119
normal

Maybe the ram crisis is god giving pcbg regulars a break
no one needs to build pcs anymore so theres no need to browse threads with insane shitposters

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>new PSU
Just look at that 5V rail

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How are these threads still going? I'm in the top 10% of earners and I do not consider this modest PC a reasonable purchase.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Jhm88Z

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>>109990171
im gonna be building one soon i swear, maybe in december or january

>>109990199
you don't NEED a 4tb ssd or 64 gigs of ram

>>109990199
If you're getting a 9600x, do you really need 64GB of RAM? Makes more sense to channel the difference towards an rx9070 and a non-housefire PSU with a 10year warranty.

>>109990224
I said modest, not poverty mode.

>>109990243
I like RAM. I like databases.

I thought that was a good PSU. Am I wrong?

>>109990224
What? You absolutely do. You're gimping yourself with 32.
>just upgrade later
Great now you're populating all 4 slots

>>109990249
My bad, it has a 10 year warranty and Nipponese capacitors, you're correct.

>>109990171
I built my computer months ago. I'm here mostly on momentum.

>>109990183
is it Pentium 4 ready?

>>109990171
Scored a 7600X for €110
32GB of 6000cl30 RAM for €450
Xfx mercury 9070xt for €800
It's go time, I guess.

>>109990358
If you pay am5 memory prices and dont get x3d cpu with it its pretty bad

>>109990199
Downgrade your RAM and maybe mobo and up your GPU to 9070XT.

>>109990246
That's not poverty mode. Scraping together a (mostly) used DDR3 era build with parts from thrift shops (charity shops in the Yew-Kayy), secondhand online marketplaces, flea markets and the like... THAT'S poverty mode.

It's all perspective, man.

>>109990404
Why spend 50% more on the GPU?

>>109990400
I mulled over getting a 9950x3d because there's a game I want to play (cities skylines 2) which does leverage it to its full extent, but seeing how zen6 is not that far away, and CS2 is still a paid beta, and how the 7600x covers everything else I want to do with the computer just fine, I'll wait until cheaper 10950x3ds.

>>109990199
why amd gpu if your clearly doing a faux workstation build

>>109990499
I want to game modestly, but I like databases.

>>109990504
i would get an ssd with dram in that case since it will be writing a lot

>>109990522
Databases dwarf the cache on any SSD. You want actual RAM.

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>>109985255
Please don't do this to Amu

>>109989913
Damn shame the panel is still slow.

hey
i have 32 GB DDR5 memory sticks and I wanna put them to use somewhere. I got them just before everything went to shit. What are the best deals to building a new PC right now?

why is everything so expensive now fuck this gay earth

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I'm worried now after once again looking at competing options that I shouldn't have returned the TCL monitor, that panel lottery will give me even worse backlight bleed, or worse yet a dead pixel. Or the power supply will be even noisier. And that prices will continue to climb.

Fuck.

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Guys, if you get 2x sticks of 16gb of ram right now, and later you wanna upgrade to 64 gb of ram, is it gonna be cooked because you'll have using 4 ram slots? right now i just wanna game but I also wanna do stuff like this dude does at some point >>109990533

>>109990618
Oh and the contrast ratio can also vary from unit to unit, so that's even better.

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I have 5700x CPU and 64gb DDR4 RAM with 5070ti

Did upgrading to 5800x3d really worth it ?? is it possible for emulating PS5 games with that CPU ???

>>109990636
they will work but only at jedec standard speeds (4800mhz)

>>109990183
>Sparkle power
I hope it won't sparkle too much.

>>109990567
>>109985255
WOW SHIT I DIDN'T SEE THAT WAS AMU

Are there Shugo Chara fans here? I never get to discuss it. It fucking sucked!

>>109990649
So basically cooked unless you get x2 32gb sticks, right? How much does that speed affect you for the database thing?!

>>109990658
It was made by the guy who made Rozen Maiden. Also its for kids

>>109990671
Yeah, making it darker would have improved it a lot. For example, killing Sue to make a wish.

>>109990685
We had too many of that thanks to Madoka ruining Mahou Shoujo shows

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>>109990658
>It fucking sucked!
Up yours it was great
>>109990685
>Yeah, making it darker would have improved it a lot
Wrong.

I do wonder what happened to that guy that was making an Amu programming vn. That must have been ten years ago.

>>109990703
I really don't think it was great. The side cast was great, particularly in the second season. Otherwise, no.

Is the "AI bubble is gonna burst soon" just a meme cope? should you buy ram now even with how costly it is?

>>109990765
It is cope, but it's hard to tell where this will all go. I can't see these ram companies letting prices get so uh, affordable again even supply improves.

>>109990765
Its not gonna pop anytime soon because i see new shit do with AI every fucking week (PS5 emulation + Recomps)

My bet is 2030. AT THE EARLIEST.

>>109990636
Depends on your mainboard.
On AsRock's Nova and probably other premium boards you can even run 4x48GB @6000 Mt/s stable.
Just takes some manual adjustment in BIOS. Example here:
https://youtu.be/q0YtOVZNHiI

Until a new, dedicated hardware solely for AI exists. PC prices gonna still get anally raped f

>>109990765
No, you are just being too impatient like all others. It's not even 2027 yet.

>>109990658
just watch precure its way better

>>109990765
my work pay millions for claude access it's here to stay unless Anthropic decides to 20X the cost. It's already at the point where if they 2X it they'd still pay up.

>>109990765
I truly believe that our only way out is to wait until supply grows to meet demand.

>>109990848
Really? Convince me anon. I'm eager.

>>109990439
> zen6 is not that far away
How do you know? We live in uncertain times. Many projects get postponed.
I would not rely on any roadmaps at this point. Get what you need as long as you can.

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THE UNCERTAINTY ABOUT EVERYTHING IS KILLING ME

Precure is pretty big now, like 20 different sereis. Precure itself attracts a lot of talented anime veterans and they get a good budget especially around the finales. If you want a start with it, pick Heartcatch (RIP Tatsuya Nagamine).

>>109990884
We know Nova Lake is coming, and they are launching server Zen6 soon. https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/server/epyc/9006-series.html

2027 we will get the desktop launches.

>>109990618
MSI MAG 274UPDF E16M is still available and under 400 euro, maybe try it? I don't think it will be brighter than the TCL or better in motion performance but it is at least QD with good calibration despite being the cheaper variant of the E16M. Not as bright as the KTC though, so I worry how it will perform in HDR.

>>109990954
>DDR5
Who the fuck cares. Bring DDR4/DDR5 support or fuck off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nvYs6vqpeM

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Can a faulty 12vhpwr extender cause a GPU to crash?
I've been having these weird crashes with my 5080 where:
>video output stops
>fans spin to max
>windows plays the "device disconnected" beep
any time I wobble/or move the table that my PC sits on. These crashes could be caused by the smallest movement, like putting a glass down or taking off my headphones or slightly bumping the table with a chair.
I think it's my 12vhpw adapter that's causing them.There isn't enough room in the case to use the regular 12vhpwr cable that goes directly to the PSU, so I resorted to using a 90c extention cable/adapter (pic related).
What I think happens is that the small vibrations and the poor contact with the pins in the adapter make the GPU shut itself down due to wonky power delivery.
Are 12VHPWR adapters/extenders known to cause such issues? Do 90C plugs still melt or are they safer in that regard? Would another extension or a simple 90C plug be the better option?

Is the 9070 gre actually a good "budget" gpu option now? It's only 50 bucks more expensive than the 9060xt and i'm at 1080p so i'm hoping vram won't be an issue

>>109990892
I find comfort in the knowledge that at least death remains certain.

>>109991148
yeah its fine at 1080p

>>109991148
yeah I'd say so, anon the gre is more powerful than a 5060ti, you should definitely move away from 1080p, it looks like shit

>>109991148
kind of yeah
in a more sane market it'd be e-waste but when the price of everything else has gone up 40% while its price has mostly stayed the same it ends up winning the "best value" prize by default

>>109991148
for how much can you get a 9070 (non gre or XT)?

>>109991148
They're okay. But you really have to take all the "RASTER ONLY NO FAKE FRAMES OR UPSCALING" shit with a big grain of salt. A lot of it is cope.
If you can, genuinely try DLSS and see if you can notice a difference, and if you can't, an Nvidia card is probably the better option.

>>109991178
>you should definitely move away from 1080p, it looks like shit
I might when (if) the market stabilizies. For now i'm trying to max out an am4 build and ride it out until am6 then i'll go for something high-end
>>109991204
Around 670 euros while the gre is like 580 and 9060 xt is 550. The prices make no sense at all
>>109991220
I thought upscaling is a bad idea at 1080p?

>>109991220
what nvidia card could he possibly get around that price? a 5060ti 8gb? sounds cucked unless he has enough money for a 16gb version or a 5070

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>>109990729
>I really don't think it was great.
It's okay to be wrong.

>>109991229
>Around 670 euros while the gre is like 580 and 9060 xt is 550. The prices make no sense at all
the prices are exactly the same in my third world cunt. you still should try to get a 1440p monitor if you're planning to upgrade, unless you want to go straight to 4k once you have enough money for the high-end set up then it makes sense to wait until then

>>109991246
At least in the UK the 5060Ti 16GB and 9070 16GB are both around £600.

>>109991295
it's the same here, if his prices are also the same then he could get a 5060ti 16gb depending on his necessities, save a bit more for a 9070xt or just chill with the 9070 gre if he wants to upgrade in the near future anyways, it's gonna crush 1080p and do more than fine in 1440p

>>109991246
Avoid 8gb card At all costs

realistically when will am6 be a thing? and how fucking expensive will ddr6 be anyways?

>>109991431
We more likely to get AM4+ refresh with DDR4 support at this rate

>>109991431
Zen8 Ravenna is scheduled for 2030, DDR6 Jedec standard is expected to be finalised in 2028/29. AM6 will most likely launch with Zen 8.

Will there even be any sales on black friday

>>109991456
so until 2030...? im thinking about buying a am5 system right now because i really need a 9800x3d for emulation, if i use it for 3-5 years it doesn't sound too bad...

>>109991480
2030 earliest, 2031 most likely.

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On Prime Days I used to stock up on drives because they'd have great deals on high capacity ones

those days are long dead

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>>109991137
they can cause them to catch fire of course they can cause them to crash you don't remember the cablemod fiasco

>>109991499
seems good to me

>>109991480
Just skip DDR5 and wait for DDR6
If you want to upgrade just buy 5800x3d and 64gb of DDR4 ram.
If you want to emulate, up to PS4 game its still possible with that CPU.
If you want to emulate PS5 game, why the fuck you want to emulate that shit console ? Wolverine ?? LMAO

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this case is selling way more than i thought it would

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>>109991558
these are the top tier cpus for ps3 emulation, to be fair ps3 is harder to emulate than ps4, and the only playable ps4 game is bloodborne anyways which happens to be the one i wanna play
i also wanna play emulate xenoblade 2 and i believe it's hard to emulate, harder than 3 because of the merc missions or smth, of course i wanna play everything at 60fps minimum
ddr4 and ddr5 cost about the same in my cunt so if i go for the am4 I'll be saving around 170usd, from the cpu and mobo, so not that much
im not interested in ps5 emulation since apparently the demon souls remake is kusoge

>>109985255

How big is the jump from 1440p to 4k? Is it as big as the jump from 1080p to 1440p or do you not feel it as much?

>>109991137
Yes. I had the exact same symptoms with my 4090 after I replaced the adapter I got in the box (from regular 8-pin PCIe) with a direct cable. I put the original adapter back and it's been fine ever since. I don't know exactly what was wrong with the direct cable, normally you'd think a direct cable would be more reliable than an adapter, but fuck knows.

if capitalism works so good why aren't there $1 monitors?

>>109991558
DDR6 gonna be even crazier prices
do the sodimm adapters work well on AM5 motherboards? like for 4 sticks with two different pairs of 2x16GB?

What's the point of 5k 2k displays if DLSS can't cope with upscaling to 5K and 2K is blurry due to a lack of integer scaling while 4K native can be run better for gaming
I would rather buy a 4K panel because I can run it

>>109991137
Based on the hundreds of 12vhpwr melting incidents, black screen GPU crashes is an early symptom of the cable failing to provide proper, balanced power across the six 12v pins

>>109991640
Direct cables are better
The problem in your case is either a damaged 12vhpwr socket on your GPU/psu or a bad rng roll on the 12vhpwr on that specific install causing unbalanced currents, usually fixable by replugging the cable again

>>109985731
do some a b testing dude. its not hard.

>>109991621
Nigga you can get a used jailbroken switch for like $200 on ebay instead of paying $700 for a platform upgrade to am5

>>109991878
not an argument. switch can't run its games at 2160p in 120hz

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next time i will just buy the 6090
i will never listen to youtubers again

>>109991625
Jump from 1440p to 4k is bigger than from 1080p to 1440p. The clarity is amazing you can never go back.

>>109991881
Those games have their physics tied to 30fps, going above that causes more issues and breaks shit.

>>109991878
i already played xenoblade 2, but i wanna play it at 60fps+ and use a mod to remove the localization changes, and I'll also be playing other PC videogames, i don't want to do emulation alone
>>109991892
there's patches to fix the most severe issues already, as far as i know there's one regarding the QTEs but you can make the game auto play them and you just lose a little bit of damage, also remember ddr4 and ddr5 cost the same in my cunt so i'll only be saving 180usd

9800x3ds are burning on MSI motherboards now. Literally only GigaShyte mobos are left.

>>109991929
9800x3d runs fine on my asus board

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Just now
>plug in GPU
>turn on PC
>flash and a pop
>no burning smell
>PC won't turn on now
How over is it for me, what are the chances that was the GPU getting fried or just the PSU? Brand new build

>>109992228
AIEEEEEE PLEASE BE LARP

>>109992228
A flash and pop is the PSU exploding especially if the light was visibly coming from the rear of the case, but lack of smell is odd. Age of that unit?

>>109992298
I'm serious unfortunately
>>109992361
Everything is brand new. I had just put the new GPU in, the pci cables were attached correctly, I'm not sure if the actual gpu not being properly attached to the MB could cause this or not.

Any good prebuilts?

post your face when you turn on your pc and you hear a pop

>>109992488
M6 Mac Mini

>>109985255
Nvidia will not be releasing more gpu's. No 6000 series is due. We'd have heard about the new faster rech by now. I knew this was going to happen so I bought a 5070ti gpu for £830 around April

hey guys, do you think the ABS flux II from newegg is a decent prebuilt? from what i can tell the B580 should support bassically everything i want to play for the next few years.

i have a montech 903 base with a 240mm AIO on the front so i was thinking of just putting the parts from the pre built into the case.

>>109985794
>artificial is a fake word

>>109992228
100% the psu. Nothing else pops in a pc when overloaded, just turns off.

>>109992188
7800x3d on b850 is best and safest. 5050mhz is a nice round number

>>109992375
The GPU not being connected properly will not cause a power spike that blows a capacitor (that's usually what such pops are), a poor connection doesn't increase the draw. Maybe you really did get super unlucky with a defective PSU that blew on first activation, but this is something you're going to have to diagnose one by one. Again, it is unlikely to be *caused* by any component not being properly plugged in. Try shining a flashlight in the PSU and see if you spot anything amiss, if you can't open the thing up.

>>109991511
because of the skin effect at extremely high frequencies

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4chan the kind of website that makes you feel like everyone has a gaming PC except you

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>>109992890
You have a pc, stop lying.

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>>109992491

>>109992906
i said gaming pc

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Why you people are so afraid with sticking to Ddr4. Don't worry. It's gonna last until 2032

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Is the RX 6800 a hidden treasure?

>matches 9060XT in raster
>16gb of VRAM
>FSR4 next year

Kind of glad I “upgraded” from the 7600 I had in this living room build

>>109992603
uh oh, i chose 9800x3d

>>109993028
When new tech releases, old tech immediately loses at least 15% performance doofus.

>>109993028
If you don't upgrade by next month your balls explode.
>>109993046
>Is Ayymd good?
No.
>>109992969
All pc's can play games retard.