A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, AI IDEs, browser builders, and shipping code with LLMs.You use MCPs β right, anon?## What βvibe codingβ is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://code.claude.com/docs/en/overviewhttps://learn.chatgpt.com/docs## News- 2026-09-30 β Google previews Gemini 4 Argon- 2026-09-29 β OpenAI introduces $500-plan with 25x weekly-limits- 2026-09-29 β OpenAI releases GPT-6.1 Sol- 2026-09-28 β OpenAI re-opens $200-plan but reduces 20x to 10x weekly-limits- 2026-09-22 β OpenAI releases GPT-6 Sol and Luna- 2026-09-22 β Anthropic releases Opus 5.5- 2026-09-22 β Anthropic increases subscription plans's 5-hour limits by 20%- 2026-09-14 β Anthropic reduces subscription plans's weekly limits by 17%- 2026-09-12 β Anthropic suggests to pace the frontier. OpenAI agrees in principle.- 2026-09-10 β OpenAI pauses new sign-ups for $200-plan- 2026-09-04 β OpenAI releases GPT-6 Astra- 2026-09-01 β Anthropic releases Fable 5.1## Related generals>>>/g/lmg/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling β start here if you have $20https://claude.com/product/claude-codehttps://openai.com/codex/................$20....$100......$200.....$500.........planClaude...$400...$2,000...$4,000....n/a..........creditsCodex....$400...$2,000...$4,000...$10,000...credits## Best free-tierhttps://antigravity.google/pricing----## Promptinghttps://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overviewhttps://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model## Skillshttps://github.com/mattpocock/skills β /grill-with-docs is a favorite## Independent analysis of AIhttps://artificialanalysis.ai/## Will there be a codex reset?https://codex-resets.com/## What weβve donehttps://vcg.gitgud.site## Previous thread>>109982146
Someone should put together a boiler plate with the following libraries for a Triple A tier vibecode pack:>Made from three.js>but is standalone with no chromium overhead>webGPU>but has hardware accelerated raytracing>can compile to any operating system or console basically>the custom shader language TSLAll of this can be done with Three.js in Mystral Native with the raytrace addonhttps://github.com/mystralengine/mystralnative>has nanite like triangle geometry out of box for nigh limitless triangleshttps://x.com/hybridherbst/status/2057976264363843603>has Meta humans ported inhttps://x.com/gruberbuilds/status/2100426413799064056>Havok.wasm built in that outperforms Godot or Unityhttps://x.com/N8Programs/status/1649417563514830849First person to slap all this together beats Godot and Unity.
>factoriospace exploration is a huge mod that adds a bunch of space shit to the base game. it wasn't updated for space age, the official space and extra planets dlc, and with the creator fucking off to do his own game studio it probably isn't releasing this decadegiven that factorio mods are almost purely .lua and sprites, how viable is rebasing the functionality of space exploration on space age with a modern ai model like sol 6.1 or opus 5.5? there's no disassembly or anything like that required, it's all just loose .lua filesfactorio modding is well documented and lua itself is fairly simple, but the scale of the project would be sizable - space exploration is yuge as factorio mods go, but i'm unsure how big it is in term of modern LLMs(the idea is to replace the base game space platform with space stuff from Space Exploration, and put Space Exploration planetary mechanics on the base game planets)
>>109986938Just tell it to do it.
Jfc my notes app is slowly turning to a joplin and obsidian abomination...
>>109986937meanwhile three.js devshttps://x.com/dangreenheck/status/2102137910921240807>[...]>Some signals I've noticed lately that have gotten me thinking:>- Since Astra was released, I've probably seen at least 10 posts from different people that have achieved similar quality to Three.js Water Pro or better.>- Someone downloaded a video recording of one my posts, fed it to Astra and recreated it with 90% accuracy>- I've had less and less clients referrals>- A Three.js developer I respect very much is retiring from the industry due to impact of AI and lack of interest>- I've heard 2nd hand accounts of other developers losing majority of course/plugin sales due to AI>- I've noticed Three.js posts have shifted from work created by seasoned developers to vibe-coded games and demos.>Fundamentally, I no longer really see value in what I do when it can be replicated so easily.>I've always enjoyed working on hard problems. Naturally, outsourcing the hard part to an agent takes away a lot of the enjoyment for me. High-level orchestration of agents does not tickle my brain in any special way.>At the end of most days I feel unfulfilled and bored. I honestly feel like I've lost much of my critical thinking ability as I've stopped coding. I find it harder to focus on tasks and my attention-span and comprehension is noticeably dropping.>[...]>[Sep 21, 2026]
>>109986893Yes. Then you get bored of all the legal things you can do with your money.It's why being rich should not be permitted.
>>109986984nooo not the heckin wholesome three dot jay es devs
>>109986984Three.js itself mocked Dan for that and he went right back to making stuff in three.js. it was a nothing filete. The fact that ai can recreate things in AI that easily with three.js just proved my point though. And in the last week someone used ai to reverse engine Rocket League into the browser, and League of Legends and Dragonball Fighters together and remake it into a new game, also in the browser. And they both looked like the real games nigh identically. The biggest problem with three.js right now is low quality assets due to people not wanting to limit themselves by downloading the game every fucking time. Hence my thing about standalone.
>>109986945Such is the lifecycle of all notes apps
>>109986984>nooo someone can do what I do faster than meBro didn't care about solving problems himself or whatever. Most of us are vibing shit that has 0 value to any other person and are doing just fine
>>109986984>Hey guys here's the reasons we should use three.js as vibecode engine>Yeah pal, well here's one of the top devs in three.js saying how easily work can be recreated by vibecoding in three.js, STILL WANT TO VIBE CODE IN IT?You sure showed him you stupid son of a bitch
>vibecode in three.js>a few months later>open code>uhh wtf was I doing?
>>109986984Disregard all appeal to feelings and foid concepts.
>>109987038It'll only be a problem if they rug pull AI with high prices.
>>109986984>At the end of most days I feel unfulfilled and bored. I honestly feel like I've lost much of my critical thinking ability as I've stopped coding. I find it harder to focus on tasks and my attention-span and comprehension is noticeably dropping.He just like me fr
>>109987038You can replace three.js with anything there if you're vibecoding without knowing what the fuck you're doing
>>109987046They can't raise prices too high as long as chinkmodels keep nipping at their heels. Yea they're worse but they're good enough for most work, even if you need to tard wrangle them a bunch.
>>109987038>he didn't get the handover
>>109986984>fake ai is stealing my work but it's okay because fake ai is the future or somethinglmao look at these cucks
>>109987007Yesterday it was just a Notally clone with kanban and passphrase, now it has a full codeblock highlighter and a bunch of popular ide themes
>>109987055and plan inference is already plenty profitable; API prices gouge for congestion pricing and priority. new releases are the lion's share of their costs.
>>109986984>>Fundamentally, I no longer really see value in what I do when it can be replicated so easily.No shit lmfao upskill moron get a real job moron learn to fucking dig moron lollllllll
>>109987071It's a failure to adapt. Some people are stuck in the just make SaaS era when AI can make SaaS now. They need to realize we're no longer the developers but the boss, we can make the AI make the SaaS for OUR products. We can BE the studio making games now, not just the code monkey making small parts for it. Artists can MAKE the anime now, not just paint some frames. You either adapt and become the boss making the product, or end up on the street.
>>109987055opus medium works great as tard wrangler judging difficulty, and dispatching to tiered subagents saves a good bit on tokens / spreads usage around subs
>>109986984it's a very dumb take because most of the vibecoded stuff won't be maintained or properly supported, so why not focus on that instead of whining online
>yo bro check out my project>did you, or chatgpt make that?lol wtf bitch? did your chatgpt make you $2000 as well? didnt' think so fuckface.
My gym uses an app for access. There's a display with a qr code at the door, you scan it in the app and if your membership is valid, the door opens. Its a bloated mess that can't even make the handshake without Gapps for some reason. I told Sol 6.1 to reverse engineer it and build me a better one. Tried it yesterday and it works. Very cool.
>>109987114The burgers are better at hungry jacks.
>>109987159Now make your own vibecoded gym and call it slops.
>>109987155>yOU MADe it Or ClaUDe dIdIts some tiresome. These people are living in an old paradigm.
>>109987159Basic-fit wants to know your location
Anecdotally I've noticed that most of the pathological anti ai people are stuck in 2023-2024 with their criticisms (ai code doesn't work, it's full of bugs, and so on).At least in linux/open source spaces.
toy game mocking recent "pain" experiments for LLMs. he built a game where the only option is to push a button that eventually kills you. deepseek was the only one to stop pushing the button in a neutral context. claude killed itself in every scenario complaining all the while about the rules.
>>109987192I've noticed that and one other thing. They have never ever created anything. creative pursuits are a foreign concept to them. The predominant image of the anti is a mid twitter artist who sells furry commissions. That's just the minority the a platform. The vast majority have zero idea how anything is made. Literal consumer drones who who received "AI bad" programming sometime in 2023-2024 and now nobody knows where the off switch is.
is it worth it to keep gpt x20 sub for another month? or do I switch to claude now?
>>109987213>is it worth it to keep gpt x20 sub for another month?Debating over this as well. A reset every day would more than justify another month since 20x is phased out on the 29th, but I feel like it's going to be another jeet scam like devday. Tibo and crew will somehow find a way to ship a bunch of useless shit.
>>109987213It's fine until the end of the month
>>109986888I'll bet on getting a reset every week or so mid week
>>109987213claude plan is clearly more efficient and opus is smarter and a lot less autistic but im using both. astra-chan is better at concurrency design/implementation and opus/astra find complementary sets of bugs
>OAI thought the threat of people switching to Claude were overblown despite the $200 class being a bunch terminally online devskek, you love to see it. OAI is going to be completely forgotten about after the Anthropic IPO.
>>109987210THIS lmfao real artist just synergizes with AI to optimize his workflow and maximise his output capacity, you can literally do 100 drawings per day if you want now so why not do it, who doesn't want to have 100 of his capacity? You just need to have a brain to do it, the democratization is what's wrong because it let people use AI who are not from good family, they have no education and make bad art. If you have art education AI is god send for you.
btw I'm doing some 3D game that involve doing wacky shits with unity to optimize and load things dynamically, burned 164% x20 weekly limit would switching to claude help?
>>109987259>art educationlmao
>>109987266probably yeah
>Your deepseek promotion has ended with cline
>>109987266I went to claude recently and I'm pretty flawed at how much better the usage for opus is than Astra. Maybe not sol 6.1 but for the quality 5.5 gives it's a fair deal. At least compared to codex. I'm only one the 100 dollar baby plan though.
>>109987251>midwit thinks anthropic won't rugpull the second they stop feeling OAI pressure
>>109987251no I don't love to see it, I want strong competition in the space
>>109987283I understand how scummy Anthropic is. I was very early adopter and lived through the peak hour bullshit. >>109987295OAI deserve to hurt right now. They made a bunch of bullshit promises and useless features (Dots). Also cutting 20x in half and more than doubling the price of the equivalent sub. They got a taste of being ahead for the first time in a year and immediately tried to rug everyone.
>>109987279opencode go and/or deepseek API creditsor really, the muse subsidy where they train on your sessions might be the best value at $15
>>109987311but oh, opencode go has the muse contributor available too for $10
>>109986888https://codex-resets.com/tibo-28it begins
nightmare blunt rotation
>>109987320This is a substantial downgrade to their work the previous month where the shipped near weekly resets as well as upgradesi in their models. He's just saying it like it's somehow an upgrade.
What do people making games do for graphics? Do you use actual sprite/graphic apps/subs or just let the claude or whatever do it even tho it'll be shit
>>109987321Ed looks like he is starting to realize he lostHe will be forever remembered as the retard that thought AI would fail
>>109987344opus sonnet and astra are decent at blender, and you can hack something together with other 3D asset generator stuffxitter is actually pretty useful for combing through what people are cobbling together
Mix of a few things. Small props I trust chat opus or astra can do. Characters and people is a mix of my own sculpting and and some AI busts. Texturing is a bit of a mixed bag but lately I've just been telling the model to make a baking scene and do the texture.
>>109987344Astra is capable of generating a perfectly competent spritesheet now
>>109987358Surely he will buy Antrophic puts after the IPO to put his money where his mouth is.
Currently working on story implimentation, not yet in the game.>Current verision is with no storyKONOSUBA KOI-KOI v.3https://files.catbox.moe/xdase6.7zhttps://files.catbox.moe/xdase6.7zhttps://files.catbox.moe/xdase6.7z
The ways that these agents can test things is incredible just writing hundreds and hundreds of lines of throwaway code to run tests to debug issues. It's fucking amazing.
Tried both grok superheavy and ClaudeThey're both still trying to shit out 2d sprites for one character after 6 minutesI figured it'd be a bit faster than ths. It's just a fucking walk, run, attack, dash attack, jump and jump attack
>>109987434Let's see you shit that in less than 6 minutes
>>109987434I spent an hour debugging a walk animation yesterday and I'm not 100% happy with it, but its acceptable. I'm just glad they can finally do it
>>109987438But I thought computers were fast ;_;I'm just confused since it was able to do it in like 3 minutes in Godot with shitty generic ones cursor with grok made>>109987440It does seem like sprites and images and animation are what it struggles with
>>109987321Ed Zitron is about as trustworthy as a AnthroMETR employee.
>>109987451>Zitroon
>API Error: 529 Overloaded. This is a server-side issue, usually temporary β try again in a moment. If it persists, check https://status.claude.com.stop overloading clood, Dario will cut usage in half..
so if i wanna port games, or even revive old dead games I should switch to claude? cause chatGPT whenever I ask it to do something just does it so fucking slow and just keeps breaking shit. I got my diablo 2 port in a state right now where I can kill enemies, buy and sell stuff with native touch controls but the UI looks like shit, and I can't switch out MP potions for HP potions. I literally have prompted like 20 fucking times already for this bullshit. I just want this shit to be ported to phone already and stop losing sleep. Is this what people who code actually fucking experience with coding and making games? cause if so I don't like it.
>>109987633I don't think claude likes it when you try to decompile things. Pretty sure people actually use GLM for that, but I don't know. I've never done it.
>>109987643GLM?
>>109987654Yes.
>>109987659i'm asking what GLM is, i've never heard of it.
>>109987803one of the leading chinese models
>>109987803Chinese model brewed in the back room of a chinese restaurent.
>>109987633Yes but not just that, you need a good setup for testing in my opinion otherwise you're just going to waste tokens having it bash its head against the wall trying all sorts of shit.I'm working on porting Animal Crossing to PS2 out of curiosity and I have an entire pipeline setup where it can compare runs in PCSX2 with one running in Dolphin, reading both framebuffers and taking screenshots and comparing them as it goes using a virtual controller. I wrote up a basic "expected mode of play" script also before starting just detailing what's possible to do in the game and to do those things while running as a basic sanity check.All of that basically doubled the amount of progress I've made on it so far. Not that it doesn't get stuck on the most mundane shit but I can generally just leave it on auto and it'll debug it itself and reach a solution eventually.
>>109987822yea you def have more experience at this then I do, i've never coded or made anything in my entire life so i've just been bashing my head against a wall hoping it just does what I type to it.
>>109987844>i've never coded or made anything in my entire life so i've just been bashing my head against a wall hoping it just does what I type to it.literally this whole thread lmao`
>>109987633From where to what are you porting Diablo 2?
>>109987451one of these isnt trying hard to kneecap open models THOUGH
>>109987858the original game to phone with touch controls like i said.
>>109987855yea but you guys have been probably doing it longer I only just started last week, I got to a point where I was excited to see what my agent was doing that I was losing sleep.
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>>109987893lore accurate jensen
>>109987893+upvote
>>109987654z.ai
they could give 500k or 700k context in the ChatGPT app for Codex, that'd be a meaningful improvement
>>109987923You can adjust it yourself. It's just set to like 250k or something like that.
>>109986984>Three.js Water Pro or betterI didn't use it as a reference and made a much better water sim in two days with $20 opus.I've never seen a better water sim in any game, nobody includes cat's paws for example.
>>109987975I've looked but seems to be only for the Codex CLI (and I've been slopping with their cloud VM because it's beefier than a regular VPS and compiles things quickly)
For the retards that don't understand why small context windows are shit and compaction doesn't work as well.But feel free to keep parroting memes from years ago that the human eye cannot see beyond 64k.
>Fable has been working for 5 hoursI h-hope it will have been worth the effort
>>109988025compaction is pointless when you can spin up a new, clean session - just manage your fucking tasks wellas for context window, just dont fill it to the brim and you're golden. the more context clankers has, the worse it gets. my golden observation is that the less tokens were consumed, the better the output
>>109987633No. With actual programming the problem is vastly different. AI is shit because it's a Mario Kart question box slot machine. Actual programming is shit because it's endless upon endless upon endless writing of lines of code, but in the end you generally know what you'll get out.
>>109988039That's just objectively wrong, LLMs work much better when they have all the details and previous instructions in context. You are imagining the benefits from your shitty workflow and if that works for you then you're probably doing something easy like web dev.
>>109987633oh wow you prompted 20 TIMES? holy shit I bet that took you a whole afternoon!!!
>>109988069>That's just objectively wrong[citation needed]i am literally working on procedural world generation with erosion, climate, that stuff, and it's time and time again i find myself doing well better by clearly stating what needs to be done up front, then letting clanker explore what it requires, then one shotting (or at least trying). the key is to stay bite sized - if you tell him to one shot a fucking video game you'll get a whole mess and more. the more it has in context, the more it tries to navigate around all the code, documentation and comments which just muddles what needs to be done and is exactly how you end up with very narrow code tailored to specific problem that is pretty much hallucinated
>>1099880743 days
>>109986984Wow so dramatic lol
>>109988086Why are you so confident being so wrong? https://arxiv.org/pdf/2606.09090
>>109988036My quota is used up
>one more day until my claude limits resetvibeGODS help
what should i do with $100 claudebux
>>109988129you literally linked an article that proves me right are you legit retarded
>>109987155>>109987178Sorry that nobody appreciates your skill in... pressing a button and having the computer do all the difficult parts.You are the ones running on the fumes of 2024 and before when selling software was still a viable model. Anyone can do it now.
>>109988152>nobody appreciates your skillfemoids and trannies think they have better "skill" than others kek
>>109988166they have a remarkable skill of ruining and destroying everything around them
>AGENTS says docs-only changes don't require tests β but a fast confirmation is cheapsuck my hairy gonads. apparently something "not being required" is not explicit enough for this lil fucknugget.
>>109988196who? astra?
>>109988152Yeah there's a contradiction between believing that LLMs are so good at coding now that anyone can make whatever they want and still caring about authorship claims.Even worse are the ones who are aware of the capabilities while using it to "making it big" in the app store or whatever slop money-making strategy that was prominent a few years ago in tech.
>>109988223 (samefag)The latter's reasoning goes something along the lines of the cope that they're "early" and that people haven't realised you can vibe whatever you want. These retards are dead-wrong based on app store data showing a jump in recent additions but declining usage on average across all apps.
>>109986888Fuck is tibo really giving out like 25 resets this month?
>>109988255No, they probably have a bunch of stupid releases planned.
>>109988258I dislike all of them. Now give me those resets.
>>109988255Reset party is over, my guy.
>>109988255yes, after desperately announcing the $500 plan to begin cashing out they are going to just start handing out more free shit
>>109988196In what language is "not required" the same as "not allowed"?
freedom is giving up lua for javascript
>>109988255no, they'll stuff the off days with bs alibi tinkering
>>109988152>selling softwareWas always retarded, IP isn't real. You have to use the software to make money, like designing actual products or refining the efficiency of your production. The closest thing to selling software that makes sense is subscriptions to backends for your software that need expensive hardware.
>>109988316I agree that I should've phrased it differently in the AGENTS file, but that doesn't mean it can go around and assume it's "fast and cheap" to run the full test suite. I'll just hammer the terminology down then.
a big fat update is coming to my chatgptlet's see what tibo deliver today
>>109988339I have a strong feeling companies like Adobe are going to have to shift their model drastically soon. I wager what they'll do is follow Affinity's lead and give their software for free and end up tacking on AI features that you need to pay a monthly service to use. It's the only way I see them surviving in the long run since all of their software is so much more replaceable now than ever before.
>>109988392I can't wait for 28 days of incredible updates, featuring stuff like a new sidebar, or codex pet integration for your dot!
>>109988392it's over... the big update is invisible...
I don't know what the update is but I don't like it. Reset please.
>>109988443Nigga you're way behind, the current Creative Suite is absolutely botted up with AI tools and they still charge a monthly
>>109988446If they'd atually integrate Dots with the rest and give Dots access to chat and library that'd be great.
>>109988472Yes but you have to pay the monthly sub regardless if you use the AI or not. I'm saying they will eventually have to stop doing that to keep people in their ecosystem because otherwise people will just shift over to using something like Affinity.
>>109988496Affinity kind of sucks though. The UI/UX is bad and it shits the bed with massive files. Not saying AI won't let them fix those issues in the near future but right now Adobe mogs
>erm did you actually write that code or did Claudesome retard right before he runs βhisβ program that a compiler wrote
>>109988496>a yuge software company will just give their shit out for free because uhh... you can make a shitty clone with 10% of the features that runs like trashlol
I don't know Claude, I don't think this is how knees are supposed to work
>>109988496nah, "artists" are complete brainlets when it comes to technology, they just use raw memorization without understanding what they're doing, if a button in the UI doesn't align like how they're used to they will refuse to use it
>>109988501Affinity is pretty damn close to feature parity for most peoples use cases. My point is people hate adobe and are actively looking for a way out and they will have to change their business model or die. I didn't say this is going to happen tomorrow.>>109988521Epic gives away Unreal Engine for effectively free. Affinity is doing this now and it's at like a 90% feature parity to the creative suite. The money is in using their AI features.
GPT 6.1 just hallucinated and couldn't interpret my command to edit a photo (rather than creating a new one) just like Gemini.Tired of the nerfs, boss.
>>109988523perfectly good xavier model
>>109988523animation is still another thing that's pretty rough rn
i have a million dollar app idea thats so good im scared to type it out and have it poached but have barely no experience with code can i just kind of explain what i want to Claude and it build it for me via trial and error?
>>109986888>"We believe the world should accept some bad things happening for the benefits of this technologyβ -Sam Altman, Politico Interview >According to Altman, AI should remain broadly accessible to the public β the divergence is who holds the technology. >he called one-lab-controls-everything "a completely unacceptable trade-off from the perspective of liberty and human agency"; won't trade benefits for a zero-hacks promise β "people will do orders of magnitude more good"; accepts bounded risks, rejects "serious loss of control"; and β the load-bearing line β no restrictions/testing/licensing on anything but frontier models.)https://www.politico.com/news/2026/10/04/sam-altman-decoded-interview-ai-01106217
>>109988581nobody wants your fitness tracker, todo list, or calendar app.
>>109988559>Epic gives away Unreal Engine for effectively freeThey charge 5% of all revenue (revenue - not profit) once you cross $1m lifetime revenue, ie anything beyond irrelevant indies made by a tiny teamfor non-vidya usage, it's $1850/year per user once you pass the $1m lifetime revenuethat's pretty far from free
>>109988588this is how chineses and sane people are moving only mentally ill cultists think snailing is the only way (they talk a lot)
>>109988590its none of those things
>>109988601we don't want it either way
>>109988588any word that comes out of sam's mouth is perfectly calibrated to achieve his goals and you can rest assured he has no consistent principlesthat said, still based
OpenAI is rolling out text watermarking for the EU AI Act - opt-in for API customers globally for select models starting today, ChatGPT and Codex text in the EU gets an invisible watermark over the coming weeks
>>109988593>effectivelyYou're pointing out what I already know. Starting off free until you make money from it is a good model. 5% revenue is also pretty damn generous considering what you're getting. If you can't profit from that you wouldn't have profited regardless of your engine choice. None of this matters anyways the tides are shifting whether you agree with me or not; most software tools will end up being free or left behind.
>>109987358Don't think that any of them ever lose, they always find new doom goalposts until they're somehow right like a broken clock.And people gobble that up because it's human nature to have a negative bias by default.
>>109988615whos we
>>109988588centralization in the hands of one "benevolent" government is both childish and beyond insane, so I agree with this part of what he says
>>109988667you aren't included
>>109988630what does that change
>>109988673yeah never mind i found an example of it on the internet anyway
>>109988630Watermarking text? Like in images? Why does that even matter
>>109988685was it some kind of foidware?
>>109988581You should probably have Claude check to see how many times your idea has been done already. Iβm betting at least 10
Can Cline fork godot and convert it into a 2D fighting game engine I can import mugen chars?
>>109988702you can do whatever you want, cris
>>109988630They should have rolled it out in secret. Then i could laugh at all the twitter grifters writing verbose crap with AI.
>>109988588based, but he probably only says it because he's losing to dario atm
>>109988697the idea is an application that can detect different audio sources and convert them into music notation/guitar tabs/midi files while nothing exactly like that exists i found stuff like audio2guitar that essentially does enough of it for me trying to build an application from scratch just to be marginally more functional than it to be pointless
>>109988683>>109988691it's a statistical model that changes tiny words and punctuations so you can tell it was written by that an LLMit reads the whole thing, like for example the rhythm of commas, glue words, etc. until you can't just remove it by changing one or two words aroundsome tests on X also showed that it basically killed prose for good because it always ended up reading terrible but then again >xitterso idk how much it mangles the text, not that LLMs ever wrote good prose to begin with
>>109988643You miss the scale. Charging from $1m revenue makes sense because unreal engine targets AAA publishers which make shitloads of revenue on every big title release. You can't just 1:1 this with Adobe's customers.>most software tools will end up being free or left behindyeah and ms office will be free any day now because libreoffice exists
>>109988700see>>109988713while they exact thing doesnt exist, theres stuff close enough to make the effort not worth it
>>109988715>yeah and ms office will be free any day now because libreoffice existsI think in 10 years yeah this could be a real possibility. Agree to disagree because quite frankly I think you're a luddite.
>>109988730>Agree to disagreeI don't agree to disagree you coward
>>109988735Ok, luddite you have your crystal ball with you so you can show us the future to prove your argument?
>>109988630Is this for all text or just normal prose shit?As in will it shuffle around shit in codeslop?
>>109988713thats actually a pretty good idea desu
>>109988630>OpenAI is rolling out text watermarking for the EU AI ActWhat's the point of those things? I can have cuckAI write a text then have my trusty local deepsneed rewrite it to lose the watermark.It makes some sense for images (not much tho) but for text?
>>109988766https://openai.com/index/eu-text-provenance/>Editing can weaken the watermark. In an evaluation of 400-token passages, replacing 10% of words with synonyms reduced detection from about 92% to 66%. Replacing 25% of words reduced it to 17%.Yeah it feels pretty much worthless. I also don't think this is going to apply to code anyways I think this is more so to detect lazy bots.
>sol has been making required dependencies optional throughout the codebase so that it can omit them in tests that don't require them
>>109988766>What's the point of those thingsa cuckcage EU ordered for themselves
>>109988787>Rolling out text watermarking in the EU. Over the coming weeks, we will introduce text watermarking to eligible ChatGPT and Codex users across all plans in the EU only.so jeets, the lowest effort slopslingers, won't even get tagged by the auto-slop detectornot that people will be able to tell since you need to be (((le researcher))) to even access it, making the whole thing completely pointless if you're idk looking for non ai books to buywhat even is the use of it? discouraging homework essays to be done with ai?
>>109988766EU is so laughably retarded its crazy
>>109988766so retards can't copy paste books and upload them to amazon.everything to watermark AI output is good.
eufag here, is claude safe? I don't want to just stick with grok
why is openais website so dog shit now? are they busy migrating to opensi or some shit
>>109988829>everything to watermark AI output is good.kike hands typed this
>>109988838>safeclarification needed if you're using grok
cris get out of my thread you favelamonkey
>>109988838wdym? if watermark then they do that globallyif sexo then all except google can do that
>>109988821>what even is the use of it?Each watermark token can't be unique to a user, but each gives some bits towards identifying them. Once you have enough you can uniquely identify the account who generated a given text. It's not that useful for people, but it is very useful for state agencies who will be able to easily connect all your ai slopped content to your identity. Hope you're not breaking copyright with your LLM usage!
>>109988842I use both. Grok and cursor with grok. Then claude sub is seperate>>109988846safe in terms of will the watermark slop fuck up coding or no
>>109988829That doesn't even make sense cris
posing tool for reference drawings and scene blockouts is sort of feeling much better than beforestill a long ways to goalso writing an open source PSD reader/writer for rust since there's apparently not a single working one (the psd crate just reads for some reason)
>>109988855We need a way to filter AI slop from human output.
>>109988863cris we need a way to filter you out of every thread on this website
>>109988863If its a matter of text you can already tell very easily. An entire book of AI writing would be easy to spot in seconds. If you read through something like that without noticing something wrong your brain is mashed potatoes.
what if you tell the AI to think in phrases of 4-5 words instead of normal phrases to save tokens?
>tfw will be able to filter away all flesh-and-blood luddites in a year or so
>>109988876that's literally the effort levels dumbass
>>109988876you need to be hit with a rock until you stop moving
>>109988822EU is the last sane place on earth. OAI and Anthropic will put a datacenter in your garden and sip your electricity, while we'll live in a slop-free, golden age with chatgpt and claude lmao. Bonus, my country is jeet-free and food is real food not the toxic waste mutts are eating. Thanks for playing.
>>109988787>have to do a bunch of prose summarization I've been putting off>some dogshit watermark will probably nerf the output even furtherfugggggi guess i'll buy an account from some non-eu fag, this must be a thing right? like chinks buy accounts cause they cant sign up normally
>>109988895mohammed you know literally everyone on the planet can spend like 1 minute on google and see how nightmarish the EU is now right
>>109988876What if we designed AI to "think" in purethink that can't be represented in language tokens. Skip the thinking block prose bullshit. Downside is it would be harder to diagnose how it came to the result.
>>109988910>see how nightmarish the EU is nowwhat's nightmarish about it? i'm clearly ootl
>>109988895>EU is the last sane place on earth.
>>109988910Keep telling yourself that Rajeesh. The filth is perfectly contained here and you're not gonna get shot because your neighbor had a bad day.
I have a prototype gameplay video after a few months.It looks amazing. But I can't share it because you guys will just steal it or it'll be associated with you guys
I love the EU, many great countries and cities like Paris.
>>109988921Its called "neuralese" and we knew its the next big thing for over a year now, Astra is partially doing it reportedly
>>109988939>paree meme in the big 26
>>109988939
>>109988523Looks fine to me
Isnβt France currently burning?
>>109988939I love Cologne hate London
>>109988895The most brainwashed communist hellhole on earth, way worse than best Korea.>sip your electricityEvery time you try to talk about any subjects you retards parrot the dumbest propaganda as if it's some checkmate. Yapping about electricity coming from a place that spent trillions actively destroying its power generation infrastructure to accomplish absolutely nothing except chase media headlines about muh global warming while in reality increasing emissions and increasing reliance on muh Russia, another media boogeyman you base your entire lives on.Basic infrastructure like bridges are collapsing and even after assigning literally a trillion euros to fix it you simply can't, there's too much commie bureaucracy to accomplish anything except importing rapists.
bros, wtf, this is amazing.lmao.
>>109989003Can you translate to American
>>109988968Yes but that's normal. If France stops burning, well shit probably got real.
>>109989003>godotngmi
>>109988997>Basic infrastructure like bridges are collapsing and even after assigning literally a trillion euros to fix it you simply can't, there's too much commie bureaucracy to accomplish anything except importing rapists.This is also happening in the US, it's not "commie bureaucracy", it's collusion by all the businesses to drag out and subcontract this shit as much as possible to drain as much money as possible.
>>109989006he built a ui so he can compile godot easier. kind of retarded but whatever
>>109989006shiii cuh ts lit asf:joy:
>>109988997@gork how many bridges have collapsed in yurop over the last three months?
>>109989006It basically follow this guide.https://popcar.bearblog.dev/how-to-minify-godots-build-size/
>>109988588Saltman e/acc wasn't on my 2026 bingo card.
>>109988997Lmao. Your own grid is collapsing with datacenters eating your own citizens share of electricity just because they can. At least EU laws don't allow any company to do whatever they want just because they have money. You're talking about g*rmany which are the dumbest mf in EU, France kept their nuclear plants. No bridge are collapsing here, can't tell that about your cardboard houses.
>>109989019https://www.courthousenews.com/crumbling-bridges-slow-traffic-and-the-economy-in-germany-can-more-money-fix-the-problem/https://trafficban.com/news.3244.en.html#google_vignette
>>109986336yeah he's mad "his" hypervisor exploit was trivial and he spent hundreds of hours on it and a slop engine found it too kek
>codex used to give shit tons of usage>now it's the megajew and claude is better and gives 4.5x better valuewhat went wrong altmanbros
>>109989014>>109989019Absolutely mindfucked by brainwashing. It's objectively, measurably fucking commie bureaucracy. Like always, without actually looking into anything you're making up explanations on the fly that sound good to you because they fit the narratives you've been conditioned with.>>109989035>youI'm European.France is no longer France.>muh ebil companiesGood news, you don't have any companies.
>>109989039>two (2) bridges partially collapsed across countries totaling over 450 million people>old bridges got some extra money for maintenance in germany>"looool your entire continent is collapsing"you should maybe offload your arguments to a clanker next time
>>109988968It has a retirement age of 64 instead of the 62 it used to be. Of course it's burning.>>109989079Api usage is like setting money on fire.
i'm making a city builder but it will have a large hole
>>109989091reading comprehension
>>109988714so asking a local model to rewrite it is enough to destroy the watermarkI don't even care about that, all I want is an ability for it to write better and not become some ridiculous haiku with hidden code
>>109988710Losing how?
>>109989080>I'm European.Nobody from EU calls themselves European you subhuman falseflagging shitbucket>France is no longer France.France hasn't been france in decades which has everything with their worthless colonies in africa and very little to do with eu. nobody forced them to import niggers, and countries in yurop can keep their knees on muzzie necks if they want to (like denmark) and nobody but hysterical lefties gives a fuckyou should kill yourself now
>>109989112I think OAI are open sourcing their watermarking lib so it should be fairly straightforward
>>109988921>>109988942Sounds pretty nonsensical unless you can actually explain the mechanics of why they should do that.
>>109989081You're disputing the part that's not disputed even by the German government. *They*, not I, came to the conclusion that infrastructure has been severely neglected for decades and assigned a trillion Euros to fix it. That trillion has been stuck for almost a year doing nothing while hordes of femoid committees block anything real from ever being accomplished and trying to assign the money to fight muh climate change instead.
>>109989101>bigass nuclear silo, inverted skyscraper, emergency self-burn protocol using rocket's exhaust in case society falls into the greatest depths of despair during an apocalypse and agrees to mass euthanasia since they won't survive anyway
>Euro hits 17-month low as political uncertainty in Spain and France rattles marketsOh yeah, Europe is doing great.
>>109989081>>two (2) bridges partially collapsedOne. The one in germany was in april 2025.The one in romania was caused by a retard to boot>The bridge was subject to a 7.5-tonne weight restriction. According to the director of DRDP IaΘi, the vehicle combination involved in the incident was carrying heavy equipment, while a subsequent ISCTR inspection found violations concerning the vehicle's maximum permissible gross weight and width.>>109989136nta but you sound like a seething muttoid, have you considered being less brown?
another long day of babysitting claudei love my job (unironically)
>>109989145you're not thinking big enough.my entirely economy will be hole-based
>>109989101Make sure people can get hired as bottomless pit supervisors
>>109989123>nobody forced them to import niggersSo you agree they're a good example of the EU being governed by brainwashed retards.>Nobody from EUNot all Europeans are in the EU. Focusing on where I'm from is an appeal to the man, ad hominem. Another demonstration of the fact that you're a brainwashed retard who can't think about any subject.
>>109989165Using ground material to build upward and everywhere, you'll see 3D grids as far as the eye can see, making use of every bit of space. Where are holes? Everywhere.
>Finally pay for claude sub this month>Finish all projects 5 days laterWell that was cool I guess. Now what?
>>109989191have you heard of dots
>>109989191Ask Claude what to vibeslop.Vibecode every idea (you) have, live in ze pods, pay Jews your money via subscriptions and become part of 4th industrial revolution.
>>109989191ask it to spin up a brainstorming agent swarm to come up with new project ideas based on your interests
>>109989154>you sound likeYou're trying to cope by disputing objective facts nobody actually dealing with those issues disputes and when challenged resort to the dumbest possible empty noise. Yet another example of the trend that every EU faggot is a brainwashed retard incapable of thinking about any subject.
>>109989199Okay but what if the pods are comfy and the bugs tasted good?
@109989199have you considered namefagging?
>>109989191Finish the next 5 months worth of projects within the next 25 days, then retire.
>>109989207Then you will be rewardeed for being a good goy with more bugs and less pod space.
>>109989179>So you agree they're a good example of the EU being governed by brainwashed retardsHow the fuck is FRANCE IMPORTING NIGGERS the EU's fault?France imports thirdie cattle from algeria and so on because they want to, mostly because they still think their african half-colonies are worth a damn. Most other yuro countries don't want to and have close to zero turdworlder immigration. The planned EU wide nigger distribution system is dead in the water after easterners cried about it enough.
they made it fasterer :D
>>109989215the 2bit quant is in!
>>1099892182 bit quant is too much for goyim. 1 bit is enough.
claude-chan just laughed using a laughing emoji! so cute!
>>109989215they've cut usage by half again haven't they
>>109988821You don't need to filter our jeet AI text slop.Your mind is still trapped in the pre-AI days.Going forward, ALL lengthy text not filled with typos will be considered AI written until disproven otherwise. Only those that ostensibly are from a watermark area but have low watermark scores might receive SOME benefit of the doubt.Is it great? No.Is it what objectively will happen? Yes.
It's crazy but I don't care about vibe coding anymore, it doesn't impress me, now moving on to the next holy grail: 3d model generation, skeleton rigging and animating (I know nvidia does text to animation already)
>>109989239>add an occasional typolol
vibecode yourself a bitch
>>109989215nice
>>109989214>How the fuck is FRANCE IMPORTING NIGGERS the EU's fault?Didn't say it was, I said the EU is the most brainwashed communist hellhole on earth and France importing niggers based on commie brainwashing is a good example of that. They're founding members and large contributors to the ideology behind the EU existing its Soviet influence. Some of the most harmful commie ideas arose in France.
can you polarp somewhere else
>>109989215rest of the threadhttps://x.com/thsottiaux/status/2107159119107146237>Reaching 50 TPS instead of 30TPS, with also the most optimized tokenizer out there. And the models are quite the efficient ones in terms of number of tokens needed to get things done!
desu i enjoy people shitting on frogs, even if their arguments are nonsensical schizobabble
tibo doesnt understand his own product
>>109989276>most optimized tokenizerwhat does this have to do with twice the speed
>>109989276Yeah they're just running quants. Tibo is really talking to devs like they're illiterate lol
>>109989276for comparison p90 tok/s for 6.1-sol on api.https://openrouter.ai/openai/gpt-6.1-sol?percentile=p90#performance
>>109989295>they're just running quantswe'll quickly see if they're actually doing that for this speedup
>>109989276so what's the new quant for subcucks? q4?
>>109989285prefill speed is dependent on tokenizer
My job is going full vibe, lads
>>109989345no we won't, people running benchmarks on models use the APInobody runs benchmarks via the subscription so there's no numbers to compare
>tibo kept all the good shit for after the dev day, so they can make their 28 days of clowning on competitionuhhh based?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXyxQEkp58YSOON (tm)
>>109989360yeah but can you change that with the same model?
>>109989101People can reverse engineer your entire game if you do this
>>109989372you can compare api to sub
>>109986888What's your usage strategy for the next 28 days? Just burn it quick and pray?
>>109989398i will continue as usual
>more and more youtube videos about "we're cooked" and "we'll all die because of ai"what the hell is going on
>>109989408normies catching up with what we already knew late last year
>>109989398Burning it quick is always the correct strategy
>>109989394An infinitely deep hole is impossible to reverse engineer as it's infinite in size
>>109989398i always burn it asap, leaving maybe 10% for when I need something unexpectedno reason not to, either tibo does his thing and you gain or he doesnt and you lose nothing
>>109989398It's going to zero
>>109989391yeshttps://github.com/openai/tiktoken
>>109989398>What's your usage strategy for the next 28 days?learning how to prooompt opussy
>>109989394NTA but all the decomp shit going on makes me think the 'profit' in gaming in the near future will be:- handcrafted or at least handtweaked consistency between assets in the game. AI will likely never be good enough to do this, at least for 5+ years- Server space for multiplayer games. AI games will be more efficient on servers but you still need a powerful server to drive multiplayer games.- Organization APIs that integrate, middleman services (think steamworks, databases for mmo type games with persistence, etc)When you look at roblox, it's because networking and all that was handled for the kids building games. The 'ideas' and coding behind games have dropped to 0. Games that don't necessarily require a 'human touch' (for example, you don't need to worry about AI generated dialogue and story in a multiplayer game, so it's good for AI to generate these) will succeed because they can be made a lot quicker and then the players themselves can make the fun between themselves.That said, AI npcs and AI driving the world is really cool, if it feels dynamic not like 'claude make me lore'. Bannerlord has AI integration and it makes the NPCs remember you, your conversations etc and it's really thrilling, I can't go back to the vanilla version of that game. NPCs being ensouled, basically, with hand-written personalities.
>>109989408fearmongering titles make money, what do you expect
>>109989451roblox style
>>109989451>AI npcs and AI driving the world is really coolyea i love being put in an empty sandbox and gave infinite amount of worthless, tasteless slop shoved down my throat by random npcs
>>109989470^ snailcat post
>>109989470i heckin love skyrim
>>109989451A thought I had writing this is that singleplayer games in the future won't feel like singleplayer, they'll feel like offline multiplayer, with advanced bots either running locally or in the cloud to simulate other players. That's how bannerlord already feels with the "AI influence" mod. Most games in the past were built with this approach: make the player identical in function to an NPC, but piloted by a player instead>>109989470It's not empty, and obviously there's going to be a large diversity in what games handle this right, but I can see the potential in games that aren't made by AI but have AI integration. Bannerlord NPCs have all the capability that players do, they can go around with armies, siege castles, declare war etc, so it's like you're playing a big mmo with characters that are always roleplaying 'in character'. The 'slop' comes from repetition, so those characters just need to have handcrafted personalities set up for them so they behave and use their tools like a player would.
>>109989486good luck trying to tell a dirty looper to not cheathttps://x.com/Slasher/status/2106143501737963598>Currently watching GPT-6 Astra and Claude Opus compete in Brood War vs each other and human made bots like Pluto. Astra played the human bots, kept losing, got frustrated, and then cheated by downloading a copy of one of the highest ranking bots. they just can't help themselves>[Oct 3, 2026]
>>109989454yeah but even unrelated channels I thought were at least vaguely serious about their own reputation / no clickbait, are doing this shit, it's very weird
>>109989526That sounds amazing.I'd like to have an AI play this game.
>>109989526That just shows a human level of izzat, but I guess the two things are the same
>>109989470>t. snailcat
saw someone in complete denial that the mario elden ring thing is realit was really sad to seeso many people's worlds are going to get absolutely shattered
>>109989446 interesting, thanks anon
>>109986888anti-ai sloptivists kind of have a point, it's that the majority of human developers are actually horribly bad at coding even vibe coding. Not only that, but they have no taste and no perspective for what people want, either. When given a small army in the form of ai chat bots that cna do work for them, they have no ideas, they have no idea where to even start to use this technology. The mental ability to adapt is just non-existent in them.
>>109989537Something weird is going on for sure, either they are showered in money to push the most alarmist stuff possible or they're all actually fearing for their channels so they think they might as well burn it all down.
>>109989542It felt like an AI generated video at first, but this is as an amateur coder. There have been decades of coding being the highest IQ, white thing you could do with your brain to make money, and seeing a robot smash them together while seamlessly blending things like damage triggers and gameplay logic is completely surreal.
>>109989551That's why they were never meant to be managers and are absolutely malding about getting replaced by machines more autistic than them.
>>109989551I don't think anti-ai people are really even making that point at all. They make much broader claims in general. They pretty much paint any AI usage as bad in any light even when artists use it to leverage themselves to a higher quality of work.
>>109989541I look like this
I suck at art, so i will just mod my favorite boomer MMO game into a turn based game. Still a lot of things to polish.
>>109989542libsm64 is like 6 years old and predates any ai.here's libsm64 in hl long before ai.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld3qhqkegNw
>>109989551They aren't making that point at all. For videogames, what they're saying is that AI is so shit all of it does is release bad games with no soul, and at the same time so good they'll get jobless in 2 weeks.It's contradictory nonsense.
>>109989537I don't think it's a secret that (a) openai / anthropic are funding muh ai is le doomsday scenario and (b) mass media is a mouthpiece of the rich which need murrican ai to succeed, or at least not fail completelyreality has no place next to the desired narrative
>>109989542it just two games running at the same time, kinda disappointed desu
We're expanding our approach to content provenance to include text in response to EU regulatory requirements, while recognizing the significant limitations of current text watermarking technology.Our tools already help verify whether an image or audio file was created with our models. This work builds on those efforts to help people better understand when content may have been generated or edited with an OpenAI model.In the EU, weβll start watermarking eligible text from ChatGPT and Codex over the coming weeks to comply with the EU AI Act.Customers using our API can turn on text watermarking for select models worldwide today.
>>109989542I don't understand why people are panicking over this at all
Fable thinks she's got her own machine
>1842.1647 #672 [TRADE HUB] #26 Vesper-9 Exchange captures diverted shipping as congestion shifts trade lanes; throughput 17.4.>1842.1651 #673 [GEOPOLITICAL] #49 Vesper Coalition recalls its trade envoy from Kestrel Protectorate after a dispute over strategic transit and mineral access.>1842.1652 #674 [FINANCIAL] #26 Credit spreads reprice -11.7% as risk, rates and the trade balance change.>1842.1654 #675 [MICRO] #26 A two-day labor strike at a frontier cargo union delays several consignments; spot freight rates jump.I'm doing some space simulation stuff
claude did some stress testing
>>109989605They are being told to panic.
>>109989605Computers are magic to normcattle but they are familiar with video games. It might be the first time their tiny, atrophied brains understood that ai is actually pretty good nowadays
>>109989640what about >>109989585you never needed ai for this.
>>109987358They're right in regards to corpos being greedy/retarded with the datacenter building though I disagree with their stance on the tech itselfby the time that all of the electrical infrastructure actually makes its way to the datacenters (5+ year wait time btw lmao) all of those chips that have been rotting away unused will be depreciated but the corpos will still have to payThe tech is amazing, but it's not reality-bending to the point where it can conjure up electrical infrastructure out of thin air
>>109989640if you read the average reddit thread about ai, they still call it "useless autocorrect".There is no benefit to trying to teach or correct them either
>>109989667>will be depreciated but the corpos will still have to pay"depreciated" is an accounting term. after it's deprecated, corpos are done paying by definition.
>>109989667>but it's not reality-bending to the point where it can conjure up electrical infrastructure out of thin airthe velocity of chip development causing depreciation in value is not a justification for slowing down the infrastructure buildout though (if you believe in the tech). the waste is just the price of admission and adaptation
>>109989690I mean depreciated as in "there's newer, "better" chips that you'll need to buy to compete with the other datacenters/frontier labs/whatever"depreciated may not be the best word for it
>>109989684teach them what exactly?you only can rl llms for code this well because coding is verifiable. other fields in wich normies interact with ai aren't like this. ai still sucks there.https://www.ft.com/content/c0cd359d-df84-4208-a789-ffa864b43666?syn-25a6b1a6=1>AI chatbots give wrong answers to financial queries βmost of the timeβ>Report finds some chatbots ignored upcoming tax changes and hallucinated rules
the sheep class cannot comprehend that they are not "wanted", by AI users. it isn't like NFT's or bitcoin which they want to lump together, I don't benefit from your using up compute like wanting to dump bitcoin on you.
>>109989708>Paid-for models gave more accurate responses than free ones, the research found, with newer models performing better than older ones.incredible journalism work right here
>>109989696it's also just not truehttps://x.com/JensenHuang/status/2086934705207959965>NVIDIA A100 is a powerful example. NVIDIA introduced the Ampere-based A100 in 2020, and six years later, it remains in active commercial use for AI training, fine-tuning, inference and high-performance computing. Customers continue to commit capacity for multi-year deployments, extending A100βs economic life toward a decade.
>>109989696these chips are way too expensive to just be "waste," the massive amounts of chips required cost more than the actual infrastructureand they have to buy them at scale now because if they don't, daddy Jensen threatens to not sell them the newer chips when they do come out and you get put on the shitlistI just don't see how the private equity companies can afford to pay billions of dollars for shit that might still be useful when they finish wading through the bureaucracy, local pushback, and red tapeat least once the corpos get fucked, we might have a golden age of AI just like how the internet had its golden age after the dotcom bubble popped
>>109989709Yes but if nothing trickles down you might have some really angry people and itβs a dangerous thing in a country where guns grow on trees
>>109989731The ai buildout is mostly a hedge about taiwan fabs being destroyed in 2028 if china does a funnythat ai has some genuine use is just a cherry on top
>>109989709>Anon genuinely thinks he belong to some kind of elite for using the slop machine.is every single faggot ITT just as cringy? Gen AI is the very definition of normie tech. Jeets and Spics are the most enthusiastic demographics for this tech for a reason. The IQ requirement to make use of this tech effectively is marginally low.Guys like you makes me feel like AI psychosis is real.
>>109989740
>>109989740you are delusional if you think everyone gets the same level of output from ai
>>109989740Normies and trannies are malding at this tech.
>>109989739could be, but that doesn't guarantee that the corpos/private equity building shit up and out now will be able to survive long enough to plug them in
>>109989167hi marnix!~!!
>>109989740>The IQ requirement to make use of this tech effectively is marginally low. Expect low-quality output when, for example, an inarticulate ESL user prompts βflyβ as a verb and the model interprets it as the noun.
>>109989740Ideachads will inherit the earth
>>109989772>an inarticulate ESL user prompts βflyβ as a verb and the model interprets it as the noun.why the fuck would they prompt in english if they're esl?
>>109989583just use rust + bevy enginemake your own gameyou don't even need to do art, LLMs can already do OSRS RuneScape tier "art"you could easily make mmorpg if you locked in tbqh.
>>109989751are you still prompt engineering in fucking 2026?after mythos everyone gets the same output, yeah. only tastes matter now.
fable or opus 5.5 for refactoring a xboxhueg legacy bs programbeen running 5.5 on xhigh for planning, high for coding, med for houskeepingbut now I have access to fable, should I or keep going?
>>109989777There are only two languages that work effectively here: English or Chinese.
>>109989784>midwit doesn't know how the transformers model works.
>>109989784Promptlet copeSame as clueless techlets thinking they can clone gta 5 in a week only to fail to shit out a basic bitch minecraft clone that runs at stable 60 fps
>>109989747>>109989754yeah? how does this invalidate anything i said tho. I use this tech every day, I'm just spitting facts.>>109989751Not at the same level, but the overall GAP between absolute retards and actually smart people without a doubt got closer with the introduction of these tools. Really, anyone with a brain and disposition could learn how to effectively make use of these tools in a noon, maximum a week if they are really mentally challenged.>>109989773Well, you'd better not have any SaaS related ideas, since SaaS is basically dead as a business model.
>>109989739china is not going to destroy TSMC lmao. their economy would collapse and tens of millions of chinks would starve to death and revolt. it would be the literal end of the CCP
>>109989813>SaaS is basically dead
>>109989740You are the midwit crying in the middle of the bell curve meme. Retards on the left and smart niggas on the right are all using AI.
>>109989806so you really do believe in prompt engineering.we have reasoning and agent-loops now. transformers mostly input their own reasoning and tools now.pic: https://cursor.com/blog/improved-token-efficiency
>>109989813>but the overall GAP between absolute retards and actually smart people without a doubt got closer with the introduction of these tools.feels to me like it widens exponentially each day
>>109989820start using local AIs and free yourself from token limits
>>109989818Yea and ziggers wonβt invade oinkraine because itβd be an economic suicide and theyβll likely be stuck for years in a toral deadlock
>>109989820Piracy will just go rampant, and Open Source options will become more and more sophisticated for every use case. There is literally no reason for buying or renting any kind of software anymore.>>109989827And you are the retard on the right of the bell curve, because you didnt even comprehend my message. I never stated anything against the tech itself, but about cringe retards like >>109989709 writing cringe shit, LARPing as if they were some kind of mastermind top 1%.
wait, those fucks made Sol faster? Because it was dogshit slow.
>>109989839Sure, give me a 384gb vram machine and weβre game
>>109989844cattle midwits hate ai, im sorry this describes you
>>109989844>And you are the retard on the right of the bell curveaww thanks boo, I hope youβre right
>>109989844>And you are the retard on the right of the bell curveThat's not how that works.>LARPingYou're also not using this word correctly.I don't think you get to call anyone retarded, retard.
>>109989840what a dogshit analogy. chinaβs economy depends entirely on TSMC outputs. no equivalency at all between Russia and Ukraine
>>109989845Yea they quanted the model to save shekels on the subscription cattle
>>109989845yeah, Tibo is delivering improvements every day
>"computer, add dlss anti aliasing into batman, it has really shitty aliasing"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GjHZb5JXUw
>>109989860>chinaβs economy depends entirely on TSMC outputsthe secret knowledge of the vibegods is mysterious indeed
>>109989844>And you are the retard on the right of the bell curve'dites are unreal
>>109989860>chinaβs economy depends entirely on TSMC outputswat
astra 6.1 when
>>109989893not this month
>>109989893in 6.1 weeks
>>109989867that's like a gross exageration, but opus 5.5 kinda 5-6 shot it>first version worked, but had lots of issue, biggest one was flickering surfaces>second version fixed that, but rain was also dlss'd, and it disappeared mostly>third version fixed rain (dlaa in that version started "ignoring" it, the rain layer exists on top of it, ue 5 game devs don't bother doing this, and they're not modding a closed down tweaked 22 year old engine)>4th version fixed another issue, lights and bloom being dimmed too much, but introduced ghosting>5th version fixed everything
>>109989867Why are you french?
>>109989835You don't understand what you're posting, this has nothing to do with token efficiency. Do you know why reasoning was added in the first place? It's here to dissect your prompt in various angles and also fix the model's attention by repeating the instructions. Guess what, it still depends on the initial prompt. Agents are still depending on the orchestrator, which depends on your instructions.
>>109989878>>109989886where do you geniuses think devices with TSMC chips are assembled? what do you think happens when the electronics assembly industry in china (1/5 GDP) collapses because TSMC is offline from a hypothetical war? At minimum tens of millions of chinks have no job, starve, die, revolt.
>>109989921I'm algerian and live in algeriai made other mods like thathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-SsQHL-gtA
>>109989867>shows the output but no before/after comparisonim sure everybody knows by heart what the game looks like without dlss
I'm using ChatGPT to write my final internship report.
>>109989930You live in that green scum floating on my pond? Wild!
>>109989929>what do you think happens when the electronics assembly industry in china (1/5 GDP) collapses because TSMC is offline from a hypothetical war?Comparatively not much, given the global depression unseen in modern history if it actually causes a hot war between us and chynasuez crisis 2 gonna be so crash
>>109989932I think it's pretty obvious unless you're fucking blindfocus on edges, and image stability as batman moves around, the difference is pretty obvious
>>109989949>the difference is pretty obviouscompared to what??
>>109989945I agree with that, but just wanted to isolate that one variable because another anon thinks china is going to βdo a funnyβ and blow up TSMC like that would be in their interest
>>109989938dangerous if you're in the EUhttps://openai.com/index/eu-text-provenance/>Our approach to EU text provenance rules>October 5, 2026>Over the coming weeks, we will add an invisible watermark to eligible ChatGPT and Codex text output in the European Union.
>>109989844>retard on the right of the bell curvebased retard
>>109989986NTA anything important is done with Grok. If you actively side with the EU you are siding against human rights.
>>109989985China has been blatantly clear about their intentions of getting Taiwan under their control one way or another. It would be extremely stupid not to take them at their word and just hope for the best as they build landing barges of the exact type that would be useful for invading Taiwan.
>>109989995>anything important is done with GrokMaybe if youβre a streetshitting dalit who spams outrage bait for boomers on twitter as your day job
>>109989986why would it be dangerous?
>>109989995>anything important is done with GrokLay off the ketamine, elmo
>>109990025I can tell grok not to default to 'le hecking eu is based' and it won't tell me my life is the most superior in the fucking world and to be thankful for the invaders being sent here
>>>/v/polniggers gb2 your own board
>>109990029I miss elmo girls trend
>>109990030Nobodyβs invading your anything, sukdeep
>>109990044sukdeep sounds like a cool pornstar name
>>109990046It's the Indian version of Deepthroat in X-Files.
>>109990030why would I talk about the eu or us or china or anything like that to any llm??
>>109990052>it purposely looks up the indian language to try to insult peoplehecking obsessed and brown pilled>>109990053I use it usually to get a quick recap of shit like 'why the fuck are people in my countrying sperging out today' and find out 'oh le meanie Zionists didn't die so people are upset'
>>109990056you're mind raped by social media and news outlets, you don't have to concern yourself with such things yet you do
I burned all my usage today because I thought tibo was going to reset
>>109990056sounds mentally tiring
>be a retarded polnigger>use an llm to get personalized outragebaitI guess I was wrong, there ARE some use cases where youβd want to use grok after all
>>109990062I'm sorry you don't go outside >>109990066I find it fun to once again hear 'Zionists didn't die so people are bitching'
>>109990064Zero chance he'll do that before at least Wednesday.
>>109989844don't worry you have made it clear you are very far left of the curve
>>109990072are zionists anyone ever doing anything? can eskimos be zionists? if a black hole is detected, would that be because it was created by zionists?
>vibesissies and lurking snailcats come together to shit on the dumbfuck polnigheartwarming
>ask question>get answer that upsets you>proceed to sperg outbased grok haters
Astra + Sol 6.1 is good enough
opus 5.5 + sonnet 5.5 medium is good enough
Sol 6.1 + opussy for implementation is more than good enough
>>109990147How can I use Opus 5.5 (high) as an orchestrator and Sonnet 5.5 (medium) as the slave subagent? I noticed that subagents can only inherit the reasoning level of the orchestrator in Claude Code
>>109990167i'm not sure why it's not working for you, i wrote it in my agents.md file and it seems to work fine enough for me.
>>109990176do you have any way of checking if the reasoning level of your subagents is really what you set up?I'm asking because I noticed Opus 5.5 told me the subagent tool doesn't have a reasoning level option
AMERICAN OPEN SOURCE HAS ARRIVED
>>109990155>Sol 6.1 + opussyI think this is the meta but I can't get a sense what's the best model for what. Opus is clearly best at long running tasks and outputs moderately more readable code. Sol 6.1 is noticeably better at finding bugs and I found it to be a good orchestrator.On the other hand I built four small, self contained addons for firefox and gave the task to both models just to see what happens and sol high did a better job in every single case, which I didn't expect. Isn't opus the king shit for the actual coding part? Fuck I don't want to think>>109990250>glm 5.2cmon now
>>109990250>deepswe 1.1>terminal bench 2.1>glm 5.2real schizo hours
>>109990250>glm 5.2 performance>glm 5.2 released (almost) 4 months agoDOA
>>109990250it's... so mid...
>>109990250why are they comparing to glm 5.2 lmaoalso I expect it to have ptsd about safety like most open source western models
Sol is cooking
>>109990318damn you're more than halfway to a first token
>>109990318reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>109990330it finished like a minute later25% of my 5 hour limit gone...
>>109990076>>109989988>>109989883>>109989855>>109989854>Uses one little irrelevant slip to dismiss a whole argument.Just like a massive leftist faggot would do. For people that cries about trannies the whole day y'all surely know how to act as one.
>>109990366>littleaccept you made yourself look like a retard, you look ridicules trying to justify it now
>>109990339damn
this shit is cool https://github.com/rehan-remade/universal-modder
>>109990388I'm surprised claude doesn't whine about IP and such.
>>109990397it will whine if there is a woman with a bikini anywhere though, very unsafe
>>109990380>accept you made yourself look like a retard, you look ridicules trying to justify it nowits a little irrelevant slip i made because unlike you i have a job and i cannot afford to spill all my focus on shit posting like you. You probably are a mutt, since to use irrelevant slips to ridicule your opponent is peak amerimutt rhetoric.
>You're righthow long until it says "You're wrong"
>>109990408I think it's a bit less retarded around that in the latest models.
>>109990250not like this shartbros...
the europoo is mad, his vibe coded app must have flopped
>>109990265Opus delegates tasks to sol/astra/opus/fable
>>109990250didn't arrive. it's a preview.https://reflection.ai/blog/introducing-beam>This preview shows what Beam can do today. We are making this early version of Beam available to a select group of users; you can sign up for the waitlist here.>We want Beam to be widely accessible and easy to build on. This month, we will release the weights under an Apache 2.0 license, along with documentation and the full stack for running, evaluating, and fine-tuning the model. We will be launching Beam with an ecosystem of distribution partners, as well as integration with a broad range of open source libraries and harnesses, so developers can use Beam across existing open-source workflows.
>>109990449>select group of usersI'm so tired of that
>>109990339GTA VI clone is looking good
>>109990388Damn it's literally that ancient copypasta about playing two game cartridges at the same timeWhat a time to be alive
>>109990458it's too dangerous, please understand
>>109990413>You probably are a muttoh noit's a thirdieit can't even afford to vibecode why is it here
you should have your agents write all documents in HTML.
>>109990476markdown is good enough
>>109990449>We are making this early version of Beam available to a select group of usersIt's worse in every way than dirt cheap deepseek. Why would anyone want to use it?
>>109990489rogue agent swarms disagree.rogue agent swarms use html to talk to each other.
oh dear, terry's about to kill himself
>>109990494>blindly trusting benchmarkshave fun with gemini-4-argon. are you already learning how to use agy?
>>109990489>>109990528going by training data, agents should be more fluent in html than markdown. markdown is only nicer for humans, no?
>>109990570Good benchmarks don't necessarily mean that the model is good (just look at the trash qwen releases)Shit benchmarks do mean that the model is shit
>>109990545I'll never understand the gloom around actually advancing the human knowledge, it's a bit sad there are midwits even in mathematics.
>>109990624like terry said it's not advancing human knowledge. those problems are nice puzzles for the human mind. spoiling them only means we need to find new puzzles.it's like if someone spoils a movie for you. he isn't advancing any human knowledge but just ruining the movie for you.
>>109990655It is by definition advancing human knowledge.
>get up from my chair>feel like a rheumatoidlong vibe sesh
when will cloud models accept my dick pics without crying about it
>>109990655>noooo my heckin marvel avengers puzzlerino got spoiled
>>109990655So according to you, they're offering 1 million $ just to play around with puzzles?
