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gaming on windows was shit before steam

steam made gaming on a computer a viable alternative to console gaming

>>109990886
If that's the case then how come pirating games is really easy on Windows but bothersome on Linux?

Then don't use it. You shouldn't have to force yourself to want it

>>109990841
It doesn't have to be.
For 99% of tasks you can just ask an AI chatbot and you're going to get the correct answer without having to go to reddit and listen to smug retards telling you to read a manual; guides source from AI anyways so you're getting rid of the middleman

>>109990841
Because it's an OS thar actually gives you the freedom to modify it, to the point a single command that can wipe your entire drive only needs a single sudo/doas password auth.

All you have to do is lose the fear of fucking up, any linux or BSD user has fucked up at some point. It's completely normal but it's better if you learn linux by fucking up using it as a desktop and for personal projects first and then take that knowledge to the workplace so you don't get fired fucking up there.

My tip is to rent a cheap vps and use it to mount a website as a hobby, no cloudflare or anything external; you have to manage everything from firewalls to DDoS. I guarantee you you will learn a lot and lose your fear of fucking up after you get pwned once or twice. If you don't want to pay for a server and domain then host it on tor or i2p at home but I recommend hosting it on clearnet as you're bound to learn more from dealing with all the shit normal webmasters have to deal with on a daily basis.

gaming on linux was super easy even before proton. people were just retards

>>109990841
It's not intimidating. Modern NPCs are just lazy and refuse to invest any time at all in learning something new.

>>109990841
probably because youre using a "user friendly distro", where everything is outdated, including the guides

>>109990841
>ick

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>>109990841
>Why does Linux feel so intimidating to use?

It doesn't have to. You can install Ubuntu or Kubuntu and never do anything more than click an icon to launch your program, just like Windows.

I gave my mum and dad a laptop with openSUSE and GNOME on it and they have no problems at all

>>109991166
Did you fuck them? Tell us about it.

>>109990841
I get that feeling with windows. I never know when that weak os will catch a virus and die.

>>109990841
This is a you problem. Linux is about as intimidating as a box of kittens.

>>109990841
Because you're a pussy.

>>109990915
I can get behind this. AI can non biasedly tell you the basics of installing Ubuntu without some neckbeard incel virgin tell you to try Debian or Arch to force yourself to learn the most difficult parts of installing GNU/Tranny freeware that already comes precompiled for ubuntu like OS anyway.

mint xfce is nice but mascot in logo is black rat

>>109990841
Because it is intimidating. Around 90% of the functions are in the terminal. You need to have an asian brain to memorize them all.

>>109991906
It's a female rat btw

>>109991939
skill issue

>>109991939
I used an ancient DOS machine as a kid, so terminals never fazed me

>>109990902
Are you retarded? Pirating games is exactly the same on linux as it is in windows

>>109990841
Linux is not for desktop computing. Windows and macos are.

>>109990915
Run opencode and have an agent fix any problems you're having then explain what it did. Works like a charm.

>>109990841
no one tells you that you will be dealing with plain text in various forms, as the universal interface. the whole os is kind of like a big stupid autohotkey script which is both bad and good. it can be made easy, but out of the box it isn't.

config files, shell, manpages etc

so you need to have a good coood editor, autocompletion and syntax highlighting both in the editor and shell ( zsh), some kind of linter in editor for shell scripts (shellcheck lsp or similar), to know what less/$PAGER is.

neither vim or nano out of the box aren't particularly good or great to use, thx linuxtards.

a better manpages browser than plain $PAGER, that links manpages like web pages (man.nvim or similar)

git - version control for config files, scripts and for notes you take

since everything goes through shell you better know what the startup sequence is and what are the differences between interactive vs non-interactive shell, login shell
https://blog.flowblok.id.au/2013-02/shell-startup-scripts.html

putting all that crap in a dotfiles repo to sync with all your pcs effortlessly
https://www.ackama.com/articles/the-best-way-to-store-your-dotfiles-a-bare-git-repository-explained/

a good terminal emulator (wezterm, ghostty, foot..)

>but muh ui muh kde muh everchanging replica of macos and windys commercial product gui
bloat. i dont care. use a window manager. config for this all goes in the git repo and persists. mine works. you could have started 10 years ago.

>>109993488
notes/recipes on all complicated linuxtardisms you ever encounter can be taken as mardown files in a big folder of markdown files pushed to a git repo. nothing more complicated than that.

>>109990927
It's as easy to download a naughty .exe, run it and destroy your install.

>>109990841
>Guides just have that weird ick
Christ you're a child. Just ask the AI and it'll keep telling you what to do until you start remembering passively.

>>109990902
What? just download a game, add it to steam as a non-steam game and if it's a windows game select proton and press play. It has always worked for me.

>>109990841
Linux is mostly used for servers, networking, and embedded devices. The most notable desktop environments are developed for workstations that either perform a few specific tasks or is used for developing more software. Everything else is mostly a slapped together hackjob.

>>109993397
except it is, unix workstations are still legendary for good reason

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>>109990841
You fucked up the transparency there, mate.

>>109993550
Speak for yourself, fedora is great

>>109993579
Linux is not unix, if Apple just cab buy a cert for their hackjob OS doesn't mean it's unix either

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i play games without even using proton. i just use wine.
i use a laptop from 2012. it's not compatible with proton

pc games were viable on linux even before proton. people were just retards who didn't know how to use wine

>>109990915
This is the way. I learned so much about Linux with the help of AI and now I daily drive it on almost all of my systems. I also recommend checking out the forums for your distro too because there's a 99% chance someone else had your same problem and already found a solution for it.

>>109993598
Fedora is decent, but it's still beta software that's upstream of Red Hat.

>>109993603
macos is better than unix. its creator solved the unix desktop in the fucking 80s.

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>>109991939

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

you don't even need these really. i go months without updating and upgrading my computer. i just wait until a version of linux mint is released to upgrade

you also need to know sudo apt-get install to install software

>>109993611
It's the only distro with any semblense of software architecture and engineering put into it.

>>109993612
Oh, you get hypnotized by the UI animations, I see. That spinwheel of death is doing it's job

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this is the longest i have ever had a distro installed
i attribute it to not upgrading.

i only use sudo apt-get update when i am installing software

i avoid sudo apt-get upgrade because upgrading has broken my system in the past

>>109993691
everything you see now pertaining to desktops on unix-like systems started with next and apple. stop being an ingrate. even stallman was trying to make a nextstep wannabe.

>>109993579
>unix workstations are still legendary
to who?

>>109993708
You joking right? Steve Jobs stole the whole ass concept from Xerox. They even made a movie about it, Pirates of The Sillicon Valley. Then that that raging hypocrite faggot got butthurt when MS and Samsung did the same to him lmao

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>>109990886
>gaming on windows was shit before steam
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

The opposite you steamie fanboy! Steam and other DRM shitware ruined PC gaming!

>>109993758
literally no one gamed on pc before steam because it was one giant pain in the neck

>>109993698
> be me
> want to make software update on mint
> first, make a timeshift snapshot
> sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
> gui starts having obvious issues
> reboot, problem persists
> revert to snapshot
> try again, same issue, revert again
> third attempt, try using gui app instead of apt
> somehow, everything works fine

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>>109993778
Wow zoomer wow!

The only pain is steam.

>literally no one gamed on pc
Before steam shit loads of exclusives for PC only. Literally games that challenged conventions.
Dungeon Keeper
Populous
Homeworld
Earth 2150

Not to mention DOOM etc.

> it was one giant pain in the neck
Lets see:
>Insert CD
>Install
>Next Next Next
>Copy the serial key
>Play.

And then insert CD to play. If you are to retarded for this you are to retarded to use the steam UI.

>>109993698
Might as well use windows if you're using anything built on systemd

>>109993778
Were you born in 96 or something zoomer?

>>109993810
No CD cracks also existed, some games had no CD patches

>>109993820
>No CD cracks also existed, some games had no CD patches
I know. However I was under the impression we are doing the le legal le normie way to play only since steam is normie shit?

>No CD cracks
This will fuck up some games because they keep the audio and video on the CD only. Or did you do it differently for them?

For example Command and Conquer did keep all of its videos on the CD.

>>109993820
>>109993832
The main point is that steam ruined PC gaming and PC gaming was doing great before steam showed up.
SO many exclusives, ways to experiment with the predefined video game genres.

After steam we get the same watered down console shit + steam DRM.

>>109990841
The ick is because all articles findable by noobs are from thirsty Indians trying to boost their personal "brand" or AI slop, or Indians prompting AI for Indian flavored AI slop. It takes time to be able to identify good Linux content.

>>109990927
>muh freedom to modify
this is such a red herring

An operating system is, in principle, just a platform for running software. You use a computer to run end-user software, not to consciously run an OS by itself.
Windows as an OS is basically transparent - it requires no maintenance or modification to just work. Linux is complicated under the guise that it's "customizable", even more so that there isn't a Linux distribution that just works (though in part it's because of the available end-user software for Linux being complicated). Linux very often requires making choices that themselves require some knowledge and/or experience, Windows doesn't.

As an analogy: most people use a car just as a way to get to places. No one wants "modular" cars where you can fast-swap wheels for tracks, or switch between direct drive and drive-by-wire, or whatever else extreme yet unnecessary complication one can come up with. Cars don't even require you knowing how any part of it actually works, you just need to know how to operate it (ie. steer with wheel, accelerate/brake with pedals, change gears with clutch pedal + gear stick).

>>109990841
>Why does Linux feel so intimidating to use?
becuase you're unfamiliar with it

>>109990841
>guides just have that weird ick to them where it makes me wonder if it'll actually work even if it does...
are you having a stroke?

Its because you are trying to fake it until you make it. The problem is you're never gonna make it.
This tranny foid vtuber adapted to linux IN A MONTH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aIyeHRRDOg

>>109993902
NTA but Linux is more transparent to me than Windows. I never seethe about my OS anymore. Now I know exactly which piece of software I have to seethe about when a bug is introduced.

>>109990841
>ick
show tits

>>109993902
>An operating system is, in principle, just a platform for running software.

In practice anything outside of Linux it is the vendor SASS product advertising platform prebundled with various adware, with increasingly strange choices by Indian product managers, UI rewritten in JS to gobble all 16G or RAM (all but 2 browser tabs getting unloaded), and quality issues in normal prod release that would be considered at best an 'alpha'/'beta' preview in 2008.

>>109990841
The fear of the unknown.