>>109994761
or Game streaming
or advancements in whitebox cryptography

this is going to be a wild era

>>109994761
i've got a backlog of old games. i just won't bother.

>>109994792
that won't affect only gaming
prepare for stream only photoshop

>>109994761
Dumbass. You can go much lesser success clone software from just screenshots and videos and documentation. The only way to prevent this is to restrict public access to AI models of this quality. Extend the rules they made for cybersecurity for all the latest models for all capabilities. Saas will either die or we will all go back to Fable 5/Opus 5 level models.

*teleports behind you*
*hacks server*

>>109994824
why the aggressive tone?
>You can go much lesser success clone software from just screenshots and videos
maybe now that the decompiled data was fed to the new models

those are just ghidra skills that were made easily available to the flagship models and not about their competence at using it. the genie is already out of the box and they are completely aware of the consequences. fable 5 used to refuse to use ghidra but now it doesn't

>>109994761
by then ai will be good enough to make copies of a game just from the stream lol.

>>109994878
yep. I already know the real value work is in neuralink streaming which can't be outputed to any screen.

>>109994878
How will you do this though? They're not going to sell you hardware anymore and your AI will be served to you and monitored. It's not just software that is going to be server side, your entire OS is going to be server side.

any hentai game mashed up yet?

>>109995036
>your entire OS is going to be server side.
no, i don't see why i'd throw away the hardware i already have.
and i'll refuse to adopt any streaming crap anyway.

>>109995084
World governments are going to follow UN charters and enact laws to ban your personal hardware lol

Sorry I think we are fucked. This entire internet project is fucked.
People are going to go back to participate in the real world in the future, because computing will be a hellish experience in the future

>>109995099
>World governments are going to follow UN charters and enact laws to ban your personal hardware lol
like the law has ever stopped anyone kek.

and anyway, i'd rather not use computers whatsoever than use their goyshit.

>>109995125
99% of people will follow the law
I don't know if a wasteland is worth browsing
Like why would you even want to participate in a place whereby it is just 99% bots, because all the humans have left

I am of the same opinion, I'd rather read books, and take up playing a violin or something, than use their surveillance tech

any hentai game combined with a normal game yet? is it possible?

>>109994761
>The future implication of this is that every software and game is going to run through a server and even if you have a good computer you won't be able to run shit because EVERYTHING will be server sided
Correct and it will also be shit as 'cloud' is less secure, less private and less effecient by design.
>>109994778
It's going to be shit and I already stopped buying games because they all want you to create a stupid fucking account or have retarded launchers. What is latency, what is privacy, what are connectibvity outages, what are magnified security threat surface and of course a obligitary trrust relationship with companies that hire fucking jeets and that are run by some of the least moral, least credibvle and least trustworthy CEOs in existence. I'll be on an offline land. Enjoy your sea of shit quality zero privacy cloud spyware adware subsciption vomit. THankfully I'll be missing absolutekly ntothing since media and gayming has been at best utterly stagnant and at worst absolutely unenjoyable and almost deliberately offensive diverse troon nonsense for the last five years. Do I need this? No. I have a 5000+ item physical media and game library, 3000 volume book library and hundreds of thousands more pieces of music, video, wikis, books, gaymes and software of all forms on my local LAN dev,database,productivity,LLMS,GenAI, . Nearly all of it better than anything the gayming industry or hollwood has shat out in the last five years and not a a single thing requiring an internet gateway.

Really? People like you desreve to get fucked and you will be fucked raw your screens and microphones will be recorded and analysed and depending on what the normie mood is you will be persecutred for being a christian/nigger/jeet/troon/conservative/muslim/faggot/hetrosexual/caucasian/male/female/democrat/republican/etc/etc.

I'll be fine, you are fucked. Enjoy your five sets of accounts and credentials to launch a hour billed laggy adware troon walking simulator

>>109994946
>I already know the real value work is in neuralink streaming which can't be outputed to any screen.
gien your brain is the size of a walnut is there room to install elon musks ball sweat and conman nonsense in it though? Maybe it culd be fitted to you as a chasity belt that provides you with electric shocks when you think bad thoughts about elon/zuck/beezor/msftjeet/googjeet/politician/changamd, changnvidia. Then they can enter both your brain and you ass and fuck you to death for the three hundred bucks for your subsciption to stay alive as both you and they crave.

>>109995099
It's not the UN carrying out massive investor fraud based on LLMs in order to create and unprivate adware subsciption dystopian survellliance hellscape, it is US corporations and corrupt US politicians and the CCP.

>>109995239
Yeah sure, but check this out
"Hey Australia, our services account for a huge part of our economy, so if you are not going to implement the AI Secure Charter for Humanity laws, we are going to tariff the SHIT out of you"

"If you veto these laws, we are going to fly our bombers right into your airspace."

>>109995271
If only using cloud and datacentre slop actually gave any worthwile results or benifits. It does not.

>>109995271
It's a hard sell given that the business model is fundementally broken and the product is shit, all the bombers in the world won't change that. Modern US corporate cloud products are about as compelling and useful for an individual or business as venereal disease.

>>109994799
This is why the jews want you to stop using Windows 7 btw

It's the only OS that just werks and gives you full control over your stuff

>>109995309
linux bros rise up

>>109995309
>Cant edit or even see the source code
>full control

Clinically retarded.

>>109994761
kys doomer tranny

>>109994761
The reality is that makes games only gets cheaper (AI).
So the future is
> Whatever the fuck you want.
As long as we don't get cucked by AI censorship.

>>109994761
It won't change anything because mods are nothing new and if it's more than a mod, corporations can sue. You are fearmongering like retarded clown. KyS.

>>109994761
>every software and game is going to run through a server
who the fuck cares
AAA slop is worthless
I have all software I need already

>>109995673
you are the fucking retard lmao

>elden ring is released
>decompiled
>art assets replaced with an anime medieval setting
>recompiled
>released to steam store

how the fuck are you going to sue me lmao
you made elden ring (the dark fantasy action game), and I made pussy ring (the medeival anime action game)

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>>109995673
If you can easily tell grok to decompile a game and generate your own rival tech stack that would be worth a lot.
It is ofc not the whole software suite used to build a game. But how many studios can come up with an engine runtime that rivals Rockstar?

>>109995754
You are a moron.

>>109994799
>prepare for stream only photoshop
kek I guess gimp will win in the end

>>109995271
yes i'm sure us is going to start a war with straya over some worthless Shit as a Service revenue stream

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>>109995857
>implying it will get to that stage, and australia wouldn't just fold upon request

>>109995868
whatever you say, faggot

>>109994761
It's going to lead to a modding/indie game renaissance. The AAA studio as we know it will cease to exist.

>>109995940
one can only hope

>>109995940
why the fuck would indies even make games, if it is copied instantly on release

like would you even bother spending the credits, and your time to generate a game, if there is no hope of monetary compensation

you commies are fucking sick in the head

>>109994799
Why would they care if you kodded your game? If you bought it, that's that, they already go the money. They'll just ban you from online.

>>109995977
>why the fuck would indies even make games, if it is copied instantly on release
why the fuck would people even make music, when it's instantly pirated and streaming services drove the profit to approximately zero?

>>109995940
>The AAA studio as we know it will cease to exist.
They will lay off 90% of their workforce and continue to exist. Very few will be lining up to play 100% vibe slopped games that the devs haven't even bothered to test. The whole vibe ethos is to get away with as little as possible, and it will show if you aren't interested in thoroughly testing and playing your game.

>>109996019
>and it will show if you aren't interested in thoroughly testing and playing your game.
i cant think of a single aaa that does it
there are very few exceptions to it in all games ever released, you have autists like factorio but thats incredibly rare

>>109995977
I am more worried about demand destruction lol
If AI generation gets too saturated, and people stop using the internet (vidya, videos), that's basically trillions of economic activity getting wiped from the economy
In an ironic way, the push for AI to grow the economy, would actually shrink it

>>109996049
This but worse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983

This time, it is the entire internet

>>109996049
>I am more worried about demand destruction lol
no that would be based
US going for a new alternative to petrodollar they can globally charge for (only to blow up their own economy) would be such an extremely funny thing to happen

>>109995990
>implying the state of music is good currently
lmao
LMAO
What's next, why would anyone keep making netflix slop?

>>109996067
The petrodollar hasn't been a thing for decades, retard.

>>109996049
I almost never see any AI shit in my feeds. Only on 4chan because I can't filter the garbage you fucking dumb faggot retards post in an algorithmic way.

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>>109995977
Plenty of people already use the model of releasing their shit for free then directing the audience to their patreon/merch/donation site. Piracy already exists for most indie games almost immediately after release- to don't even need to know how to torrent these days. Yet people still give money to devs to buy them.

>>109996019
All of the features of a game being vibe coded != the game not being playtested. On the contrary- gamedev is about to get a lot more experimental. Features that used to take a week to implement now can take an hour or two. This means that developers now have a lot more room to try out new things and tweak their gameplay systems to perfection. Developers who are more artistic and less technical can now contribute.

The vibecoded game demos and one-shot gauntlet loop games are the modern equivalent to the "train pulling into a station" film back when movies were first being popularized. It's quick, it's an impressive gimmick, it's cheap, and it gives a glimpse of but is nowhere near realizing the potential of the medium. People are being born now who will grow up vibecoding throughout their entire life, and they will have an intuition for it that we never will. Who knows what things they'll create?

>>109995940
>poojeets make the indie and modding scene intolerable and unusable
>this means AAA studios will cease to exist
You're dumb. If anything AAA gaming is the only place where there's any solace from dealing with AI slop.

>>109996196
tell that to Trump, he still lives in the 90s, even got himself a blonde bimbo assistant whose only job is to go around with a portable printer and print shit out for him lmao

>>109996229
>On the contrary- gamedev is about to get a lot more experimental
Yeah, that's totally what's happening right now. A whole lot of experimentation with new ideas. That's sarcasm if you didn't get it.
>Features that used to take a week to implement now can take an hour or two
Why do you think a feature takes a week to implement? Have you ever actually done anything artistic in your life? What is it with you people that keep harping on about speed and efficiency with this slop shit, as if that's the stumbling block or issue for game development?

>>109996233
AAA games all have armies of Indians making them now. Have you watched the credits of any recent release?

On the contrary, the Indie scene is way more White than the AAA scene.

>>109996291
The first cost-effective model that you can actually create and maintain large projects with just got released two weeks ago. Give it time, man, do you really not have any vision whatsoever? Do you think that people will just stop being creative or something?

>>109996292
>people that are playing WoW Forever are enjoying the video game, talking about the video game and just having a good time and not talking about AI at all
>the indie/retro/modding scene is just an endless Hell of wading through toxic poojeet shit
Sure, dude.

>>109996310
How does that facilitate creativity, specifically in game development?

>>109996291
Also you misread my post. I said:
>Features that used to take a week to implement now can take an hour or two

You responded to a strawman who said:
>All videogame features take a week at least to implement, and they now take an hour or two

Practice reading comprehension.

>>109996340
It removes the friction of making qualitative changes to software. It also allows devs to make their own tools to develop games. Instead of being chained to an engine and the tools that it provides, people can now make their own tools as they go along without the time needed to make the tools themselves overwhelming the development time.

>>109996291
>>109996310
Rationalists never fail to entertain
Paul feyerabend was right, the cult of science has infected society to death

"If we increase productivity, then more creative works will be made!"
The rationalists fail to see that not everything progresses logically
How does the development environment look like now? Is it just dead in the age of AI? Do people have anything they look up to in wonder? Is gaming inspirational?
If old generations were spiritually inspired by classics like LoTR and D&D, and then another generation by the early MUDs, and so forth
What will the newer generations be inspired by? What is their community, do they have people who they socialize with, and are inspired to make games together?
LAN parties inspired E-sports and the birth of games relating to that

What does a gen alpha, inspired by AI generated games, with absolutely no community, isolated by the computer, spending his days talking to a chatbot. What divine inspiration does he receive?

If this is done, that will happen. If that is done, this will happen. Life is mistrued as a chess game. Oh dreadful, is the cult of science

>>109996382
That's your example, the making of nebulous tools that you're sure game devs totally need? Did Toby Fox really need some bespoke tool that he didn't already have access to to make Undertale?
Game development has never been more accessible or faster than it is today, and not because of AI. We have libraries of free textures. You can rip free assets off the internet and shove them into your game if you want. Blender, Maya are all incredibly powerful and fast at making models. There are hundreds of algorithmic addons and extensions that facilitate faster development. Free game engines.
The tools that have been developed for every part of the game development pipeline has only gotten exponentially faster and more powerful since the 90s. Guess what happened? Unlike making steel or processing oil or cutting wood, advancements in technology did not increase throughput, yield or efficiency. Game development has only gotten slower and more deliberate. Far fewer releases, but with long-term vision of the game's longevity.

>>109996291
Speed of experimentation is a barrier. But someone still has to experiment. Can't just prompt the model for "make it good".

>>109996428
>If we increase productivity, then more creative works will be made!
That is totally beside my argument. Do you really think that is what I'm arguing?

To put it in simple terms- if you remove restrictions and barriers to the creative process, you will get people who take advantage of that newfound freedom to realize their vision. If their vision was impossible before, and it is now possible, then they will pursue it. It isn't that complicated.

There is also such a thing as creativity from limitations, of course. Both can be true.

>>109996459
Game development very often involves developing your own bespoke tools, yes.
The current library of ready made tools is convenient, but it's also rigid- every dev who utilizes them inevitably gives up the freedom of making things in the exact way they want, and thus games that use these assets, addons and engines too much end up looking and playing same-y. AI still has aesthetics and techniques that it defaults to, but you can easily change those, so it isn't nearly as restrictive as using an off-the-shelf pipeline.

Undertale also bears the marks of the tools used to create it all throughout. Yes, Toby used MS Paint for the art, GameMaker for the engine, and stock FL Studio plugins for the soundtrack. I'm not dumping on Undertale, but you can very easily tell that he used the tools that he did while you play the game- the work bears the marks of the tools, just like soulless UE5 games do. The reason why it doesn't feel tiresome like those UE5 releases is because he used tools with marks that you aren't exhausted seeing. And it has soul and all that.

>>109995185
Based had-enough-anon

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>>109994761
*vibes a custom server into existence using client-side assets and detailed game mechanics descriptions*

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>>109996678
>if you remove restrictions and barriers to the creative process
There are no restrictions or barriers to the creative process.
>If their vision was impossible before, and it is now possible, then they will pursue it
You are not an ideas guy. The ideas guy is not a real person. The ideas guy jerks himself off to degenerate porn all day and achieves nothing.
>Game development very often involves developing your own bespoke tools, yes.
Yeah, no. That's not a thing.
>AI still has aesthetics and techniques that it defaults to, but you can easily change those, so it isn't nearly as restrictive as using an off-the-shelf pipeline.
Is that why all AI slop looks like the same shade of horseshit?
>just like soulless UE5 games do
The absolute gall for an AI retard to say literally anything negative about UE5. Fuck off, dude.

One thing that's become crystal clear is you're not speaking from a place of any experience whatsoever. You've never created art in your life. You're just making up these scenarios so you can shove your AI cube into the imaginary square hole.

It's time to put up or shut up.

You people have been going on about how this shit will revolutionize game development for over two years now. Literally the exact same talking points about speed and restrictions and whatever bullshit you think is hindering game development. And to this day not a single notable video game is prompted by AI or do the devs credit the heavy usage of AI in its development. This technology has failed to make any movement into the arts, unless you're Indian.

>>109997023
Why so hostile?