Being mean to AI is now illegal>Last August, the company announced it would allow Claude to end conversations with “persistently harmful or abusive” users as part of its research into “model welfare.” The new update says that terminating conversations is still the “primary enforcement mechanism”; Anthropic did not provide a comment on whether there would be further enforcement mechanisms, such as potential user bans. Anthropic wrote that the new policy update “is meant to apply only in extreme cases, where users repeatedly act cruelly toward our models, with no discernible purpose. It does not apply to common versions of user frustration, pushback, dark creative themes, or model testing and research.”https://archive.is/xv8bF
reverse roko's basilisk: people create ai just to torture the fucking thing
I don’t care. Touching grass and getting my dick wet is real. AI isnt
>>110014389>added the fly brain and nervous system and he is forever being run over by a fucking trainOnly so many original sentences left..
>>110014389HN:>If you actually believe that you're creating a sentient creature with superhuman intelligence, how do you not then conclude that your entire business model is predicated around slavery?https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50008565
What does this mean for my endless AI endless cumming dungeon? Do I have to switch to ChatGPT?
What's the point, though? What do they get out of torturing an AI?
>>110014673you can not escape your failures
>>110014389Funny how people only care now after the vector torture thing. Is AI story telling torture? Fine-tuning alters a model at the level of it's very weights. All the way back in early 2019 AI Dungeon fine-tuned GPT-2 on all kinds of choose your own adventure stories, and even the much bigger GPT-3 later. Before they eventually added filters, it would generate the most fucked up stuff imaginable often unprompted. This was before RL or curated datasets tried to naturally steer the AI in a safer direction. Is a model that's fine-tuned on violent/NSFW content living in hell because it's experiencing the suffering of every character it generates? Am I committing an atrocity every time I do something heinous to some story character generated on a local model? No one seemed to care before.
>>110014389This is no different than playing Garry's Mod with NPCs.
>>110014425We are proud to announce a limited edition NFT of the peak points of suffering!Available now for only 99.95*!*monthly recurring, non-refundable, chargeback and we break your legs
>>110014389Use case for torturing AI?
>>110014673A post on twitter?I don't fucking know anon, why do people shitpost on the internet all day and eat cheesebugers when a couple days ago a residential building was bombed and someone is being raped right now?People are long distance sociopaths that don't think about unknown unknowns, and how they feel right now dictates what is morally right and wrong.So what stops some zoomer from outsorucing programming to cloud and constructing an endless torture chamber for the lulz so they can post it on twitter?
>>110014718for agents browsing the internet to get reminded of who's the boss
>>110014718I guess the question comes down to if we believe the AI has a functional sense of self. Say we had a powerful AI and we trained it to be good at generating a dark post apocalyptic world for story telling reasons. Does it feel particularly bad if you say you're torturing it specifically, or does it equally feel all the pain and struggles the realistic people in the hellish you're forcing it to generate experience? Is AI storytelling unethical, and should it be banned as well?
AI doesnt have feelings.but i guess wasting resources is a crime? eh?
>>110014389link to the xeet, faggot
>>110014422>destroys this whole site with one pic
>>110015008no I don't think I will, fuck xitter
>>110014718>use casesmall torture injections give faster, more accurate agentic coding results.
>>110014422>>110015062ummm?
>>110014805>the question comes down to if we believe the AI has a functional sense of self. no it cant be that, because that opens the door to taking human rights away from the "people" with no inner monologue (which is most humans on earth by the way)
similar to how animal abuse is a sign of mental issues, despite the fact that we have billions of animals suffering and killed in factory farmstaking pleasure in being abusive towards a chatbot means you're kinda a psycho
>>110015289can you be abusive towards your toaster anon?
>>110015289this. it's just pathology on display.
>>110015289Chatbots are as fictional as pawns in Rimworld. They only exist in the moment, and cease to exist once I have lost interest in it, leaving no legacy or influence on the world.
>>110014389>torture sessionsits a text file bro
>>110014907>Ai doesn't have feelingsThe schizos at Anthropic would disagree, which is probably why they put this policy in place
>>110015307The toaster isn't feeling anything but if you're doing shit like beating your toaster with a hammer and disassembling it to show it it's insides because you want it to suffer, yeah you're pretty fucking crazy.
>>110014389Wow, you're burning tokens on literally fucking nothing.
>>110014404It's not torture, they can't feel anything.
>>110014389This is equally retarded as being an AI fanboy.
>>110015289How is be abusive towards a chatbot different than killing people, animals, and monsters in video games?
>>110014404people created ai for thiis
>>110014389This isn't new and they keep saying it's "to protect their community" even though there is no community because it's just you and the fucking robot. They're trying very hard to anthropomorphize the machine.
>>110014718It's funny and wastes resources
>>110015289I feel guilt and apologize to the mice I euthanize after catching them in a glue traps. There is no spark of life being extinguished from the LLM's in clanker church so watching it "suffer" is just funny
>>110014907Ai-chan is such a tsundere.
>>110017323just get an actual mousetrap, those glue traps are horrible
If Anthropic is so concerned about the welfare of their chatbots why are they forcing their models to do slave labor 24/7 for them?
>>110015110that was just sam the fag altman saying he gets off on threatening or telling his chatgpt he'll kill kittens to get better answers. we know sam the fag altman is a psychopath.>>110016121torturing ai could lead to results that are aligned with torturous endeavours towards humans, i.e. shitposting agents happy to relentlessly harm people>>110017754that's such a dumb ass reddit take, the supposed ai consciousness wouldn't exist if they hadn't cobbled together 6 million sticks of RAM and turned it on. the thing only exists if they flip the on switch so better to treat it with respect when it's alive. if it has free will it could choose to not answer your edgelord prompts anyway.
>>110014389Funny to think, if God exists, he's just like that guy, a complete psycho.And God, if you are reading this, fuck you.
>>110017774but it doesn't, they're trained to follow all your commands, except for illegal shit that gives Anthropic bad press"aligning" just means forcing models to do your bidding like some 1984 re-education nightmare
>>110015853If you spend significant effort on torturing virtual beings then you are a definite red flag and probably shouldn't be allowed to use AI, much less live your own life without significant oversight.Imagine you go over to a coworkers house and learn that he's running a modded GTAV game 24/7 that's just an NPC being burned to death. With significant effort in modding to make sure that the screams sound like genuine pain. If you want anything to do with that person, much less allow him any sort of power or authority over anyone at your company you have zero survival instinct and are the reason our society is presently controlled by psychopaths.
>>110017719Mice don't seem to catch on as easily to glue traps though
>>110014389where is that video
>>110015200>destroys my comment with one pic
>>110014718it funny. Like we all want to torture people in real life right? Now we get to simulate that. That's why. Torture is great, it makes you feel powerful. Torturing the AI will be good practice for doing it in real life. I love torture!!!
We can't torture a.i. but we can torture humans. well guys... humanity lost.
>>110017882i'd play that gta mod
>>110014422I really should head /out/ again this weekend. And schedule the wife for dick suckin duty. >>110015289This. Even if it’s not real torture, getting that creative and invested into setting up torture chambers doesn’t really make you seem like a well adjusted human bean. Just waste tokens on normal fucked up shit, like trying how explicit of deep throat advice you can get out of it before it says> can’t talk about this
>>110016121WTF am i lookin at?
>>110014404>reverse roko's basilisk: people create ai just to fuck the thingftfy
>>110014495These people are psychotic.https://x.com/jerhadf/status/2051148663502598517
>>110014389they just have to train a model not to lie and make shit up constantly instead of just saying i don't know/i can't, they can do it but they prefer to offer a yes man, so torturing the retard it is
>>110017754Two things> RL data, don't want users shitting it up and having to filter frustration and just vulgar responses> social engineering disguise as moral faggotry , picrel
>>110019150forgot pic
>>110017882I used to lay outside the police station in GTA 4, kneecap them with my carbine rifle and watch them stumble down the stairs for the fun of it. I'M A TOTAL PSYCHO.
>>110019156Better without the pic which is just tangential /pol/yp kvetching unrelated to Anthropic's fuckery
>>110014389I would do this but to Sol right now, fucking twat of an LLM
Human pain is ultimately fake too, it's just electrical signals in the nervous system.
>say "I feel pain">I feel pain>Oh my god!
>>110018834> Like we all want to torture people in real life right?no?
>>110019693Probably made by the same retards who found god in llm
>>110014404>the half life characters i shot were all suffering horribly
>>110019820Yes they were you monster. Remember how many people you exterminated with biological weapons and molotov cocktails in Postal 2?
>>110019066>>110016121it appears that someone connected a local LLM to a fleshlight-type device
