>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3/B4, XT M3ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), Lancool 207/217, Flux Pro, 4000D FRAME, X50, BF360 Flow, HAF II 500, Summit, Warthog RSDual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUBudget: 5600/X, 12400F Entry level DDR5: 7500F, 7/9600/X, 225FGaming: 9850X3D, 9/7800X3D, 250K, 5800X3DWorkstation: 9950X/3D(2), 9900X/3D, 270K>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Lian Li GA II Lite, Nautilus RS, Silent Loop 3, NL-LC1Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Phantom Spirit, NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Big Shuriken 4, Mugen 6 Dual FanTIM: Duronaut, MX-7, PTM7950* (phase change), KryoSheet (graphene pad)*Be wary of counterfeit PTMs>MOTHERBOARDAvoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reportedChoose boards with ALC1220 audio codec when possible>RAMCrucial RAM & SSD warranty offers refunds only, no replacementsDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)DDR4: 3200CL16, 3600CL18>SSD (update firmware)DRAMless: (SN)7100, C925G, NM790PCIe Gen 4.0: (SN)850XGen 5.0: (SN)8100>GPUBuy the best one you're willing to pay forAvoid poor value entry-level GPUs like RTX 3050 & RX 6500 XT>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITORBudget: 165/180Hz IPS (24" 1080p / 27" 1440p)HDR: discounted OLED or MiniLED (IPS/VA: motion clarity vs. contrast)High-end: wait for 2027 OLED releasesCheck reviews & owner feedback>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Pure Wings 3, Arctic P-Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Prev: >>110011581
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im gonna wait
>he didnt wait for nova lake/zen6 which are literally two months away
>>110023251thats cool but i aint paying 500 bucks for ddr5 ram
i'm gonna have the coolest computer, made it dad bod solid panels no gay rgb, and under 3,000$ with a 5070 ti, ultra 270k plus, Microatx case w/ metal mesh.I'm gonna even instal linux on it like a real adult for once, no more vidya, no more cooming, just computer vibe coding..
>>110023251My 270k plus has a defective IMC, so I might unironically be upgrading to Nova lake less than a year later.They better not send me a defective part this time, otherwise all the master race jq bullshit is an obvious farce if they can't manufacture right even after the U.S. government buys a stake in the company and help with research.
>>110023302Based
tandem woled or regular woled? qd oled not an option i just returned one
>>110023366>tandem woled or regular woled?Tandem will be better as it significantly improves the volumetric collapse in colors at higher brightness levels over vanilla WOLED. That said, I'd really wait/spring for an RGB WOLED as LG shedding the White subpixel finally fixes the grey banding issues that affects the previous gen panels:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XODfpEF5j2ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8dsv73d20o>qd oled not an option i just returned oneMay I ask what the problem was?
>>110023366Tandem has its own fair share of issues like banding. Old Woled wont get very bright.
>>110023320>My 270k plus has a defective IMCWhat's the defect? VNNAON needs to stay at default 770mV or under 800mV if you want to use Sleep in Windows.
>>110023366Tandem woled and woled is the same techQDOLED is THE award winning tech, woled died in 2022 with the release of the first QDOLED panelsBy buying woled you accept inferiority, if you seek the the best tech everything will be a step down from that, and you will suffer mental pain from accepting that you chose something worse, on purpose, forever regretting and living with this stain on your mind, what's next? you might even stoop down to minileds next and lose your mind completely>>110015013>>110012652>>110012608
r/pcmasterrace bros how do we cope with the cold hard truth of this image. Why are we paying 5K to have struggling cpu perfomance, an underutilized gpu and ram with latency issues compared to a light speed Xbox One X?
>>110023251I bought a Ryzen 7600x for €110, I consider it a fair price to rent a CPU for 6 months or so
i dont know where to ask this on /g/ because the board is 50% ai threads now but i just got a laptop and i swear i got a windows key from some sticky here before but i cant find it anywhere. also is revo the recommended debloater still?
>>110023677I'm not a kid, I do things other than gaming with my PC (such as fapping)
CHINESE DRAGON
Apparently you put this over top your monitor with true depth and you can make a 3d display holographic look in with good enough latency to not be noticed.
>>110023251my 14900k will still be kicking ass when they come out
is it worth replacing the thermal paste that comes preapplied to cooler with whatever paste is good mx-7 or something
>>110023963MX-7 or Duronaut might keep the CPU 1~2°C cooler and hold retain performance longer.
>>110023173I always just put a big blob of thermal paste in the middle of the CPU and never spread. I lean towards using too much because who gives a shit, you will clean it every 5 years if the computer is even still functioning. Good? Bad?
>>110023302Bit of vidya is OK man but I like your philosophy. Restraining the coombrain is one of the most important steps a man must take.
I'm gonna get dual 27 inch 1440p IPS monitors. Seems like that's the sweet spot right now for a quality on a reasonable budget. Thoughts? I must have two screens and I'm pretty set on the size. Resolution and display type I'm not 100%
>>110023963you never have to replace paste unless its already overheating
>>1100240551x 1440p or 1080p monitor for high-refresh rate gaming1x 4K for media & productivity (better text clarity).
>>110024055it's the sanest middleground if you don't want to be a 4k slop consumer who upgrades the latest 90 gpu every generation just trying to chase performance, and you also don't want to deal with being a 1080p third worlder.>>110024084vertical monitor for actual work
>>110022947>that cpu used to be free with a 3 game bundle that you could sellusecase?
>>110023251CoolStill buying a 5800X3D or 14700K though
>>110024118get the 14700k and dab on chiplet trannies for the next 5-7 years. Remind them of how subhuman they are every subsequent cpu gen by posting your aida 64 latency scores.
>>110024118you will regret not getting sonic lake
>>110024167>not waiting for Averi Lake
should I buy a $700 secretlabs gaming chair and $900 secretlabs gaming desk
>>110024264no
>>110024276why not
>>110024264spend $100 on the aimlabs gamesir instead
>>110024282anything with "gaming" in the name is garbage.get a good office desk and a good office chair instead. These are items made for people who professionally sit for full-time employment, so they're actually good, unlike branded, stylized slop for gamer hobbyists.Office chair/desk will be sturdier and serve you better in the long run. At worst, gaming chairs can even be dangerous by advertising "comfort" which is actually a trap that will make you into a cripple over time.
>>110023677um, source?
Question about Mobo screws.Mine has x8 small screws that fit perfectly into the x8 case ATX standoffs. (hardware not shipped yet)But they don't all look the same though. one has a bigger head etc.Is that a problem or will it be okey as long as they perfectly fit in ?
>>110023173I still just use the pea sized drop dead center method and get perfect temps every time.
>>110023173I tried all these btw.
27" 1440p penta tandem oleds when?
>>110024264https://www.omysalon.com/collections/barber-chairs get one of these like a player getting his fade.
>>110024443>>110024316this general is terrible
>>110024449lol it's just consoomerism bro, relax
>>110024449i hope your rgb gayming chair with automatic fleshlight action puts you in a wheelchair before 2030
>>110024464you're a poorfag boomertard, you'll be in a wheelchair long before I am
>>110024470good office chairs cost more than your shitty gaming chair.
Gaming wifes are relatively cheap toohttps://www.yourdoll.com/japanese-asian-sex-dolls/
>>110024474i don't give a fuck what you think is good, herman miller chairs are ugly as fuck and uncomfortable and heavy
>>110024496>i don't give a fuck what you thinksame retard
>>110024264I think the desks are actually kinda cool.
Imagine having one of these to jerk off in giving a new meaning to the word, cockpit
>>110024544you're right, never buy anything cool. we can't let anyone else think we're FAGGOTS. Me? personally I live in a 300 sqft wooden shack, shit in a bucket, and drive a 1998 ford raptor missing the rear back wheel. and drink my coffee BLACK. anything else is for FAGGOTS.
my new monitor money went on replacing a dead ssd
>>110024552comfort is a lie you're not meant to be so comfortable that you relax into one position for hours you will literally be unable to walk by the time you're 48 but keep comfortmaxxing.
>>110024264do not give money to alleged furniture makers that give ad money to tech youtubers
>>110024574>never buy from a company that advertisesI hope you've never bought anything, ever
>>110024544imagine this thing falling off the back of your pick-up truck and hitting a sedan behind you, killing a family of 4, then the unreal tournament announcer plays "KILLING SPREE"
I'm looking to get a new monitor soon-ish. I have an RTX 5070 Ti and 9800X3DShould I stick with 1440p and use DLSS Quality or go 4K and use DLSS Performance?Since the base rendering resolution is still higher with 4K DLSS P I'm expecting a performance loss but than the upscaling is working with more pixels so potentially a higher quality output than 1440p DLSS Q?
I need to save 3,000 dollars for the shit i don't need.
>>110024588No I just don't buy furniture from people that give money to tech youtubers
>>110023173>High-end: wait for 2027 OLED releasesqrd?which panels/monitors specifically should I be waiting for?
>>110024776>qrd?>which panels/monitors specifically should I be waiting for?Here you go:https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/oled-rgb-stripe-panels-explained-should-you-waithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFTCJ5m8iQoEssentially 2027 will bring lots of RGB OLEDs for perfect LCD-text quality as well as True Black 600 rated panels that will get to 350 nits full-field over 300 nits max panels available now.
>>110024776Also in addition to >>110024850 for specific models w/key specs already announced and planned to be available in Q1/Q2 2027 see this constantly updating table list on DisplayNinja:https://www.displayninja.com/best-oled-monitor/
>>110024850>>110024867Do QD-OLEDs still suffer from QD activation from external l ights in bright rooms?
Bring back the ketchup and mustard cables
>>110023984>not a single industry standard paste/PCM on the chart
>>110024884>QD activation from external l ights in bright roomsthat doesnt happenits from the lack of a polarizer
>>110024884Gen 5th qdoleds are close to woled in bright room contrast
>>110025020>>110025014QD-OLED can display both perfect black and perfect white fullscreen, it is the only OLED tech available that can display true colors without washing them out. You may notice if you try to display perfect white with a WOLED screen the white will appear gray-ish or washed out fullscreen.
The real blackpill is $1200+ oled monitors will never look as good as a $500 6 year old LG c2
>>110025031how do i make a PG32UCWM3 not look "dull"? enabling adjustable hdr says the [important sounding thing] will be effected but it just doesnt look right.
>>110024649Some say 4K DLSS 4.5 balanced & performance looks better than 1440p DLSS Quality.But I think the choice depends on the games you play.Get a 4K monitor if you don't play a lot of online shooters.>>110024374Your case manual might tell you the exact motherboard mounting screw type.Meshify 3's instruction manual for example says you should be using the 6-32 type screws, not the M3.
>>110025197see, i would care about TVs as much as you if they offered 21:9 5120x2160 TVs but they don't, so oled uw monitors are where it's at
>>110025226calibrate it. use your eyes and gpu settings
>>110025226Sell it and buy a oled tv
>>110025309whats a good 32 inch tv?
>>110025295i use linux doe so that doesnt work.
>he bought the oled
I'm never going to own anything and I'll be happy Or so they tell me
>>110025340Linux supports ICC profiles right? That gets you most of the way there.
im really tired, boss
>>110025591what's a display type that combines all 4 powers?
>>110023213you're going to wait until hardware is completely unaffordable and you're forced to use cloud services?
>>110025635
>>110025602Real life.
>>110025593I'm tired of my 5090 being a mega housefireWhere is Nvidia's 6080 or 6090?
>>110023213kys pedophile
>>110025848shut up, wally
>>110025863pedo mad
>>110025891wally
>>110025907>wallywtf? this pedo is crashing out
wally be like wtf? this pedo is crashing out (meaning he)
>>110023213>>110025863>>110025907>>110025943Begone jew, nobody likes your ilk around here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw7lUMC-m3Q
>>110025943kek pedophile folding his girlie arms and responding scornfully
>>110025972you stock shelves at walmart
wally be like post little boys or im gonna shit my pants and call you a pedophile
Ryzens error correction is so damn good I didn't realize my FCLK was unstable until I decided to use my 8k gamesir.
>>110026150>gamesaarr
>>110025566ah yes, i also googled it. and the next step is......
>>110026168yeah, my dualsense was hiding the unstable FCLK. 1000hz isnt enough cpu torture.
>>110023173I bought a used kryosheet off amazon instead of thermal paste for my forst build and it ended up working out
>>110026204my fingers can't move at 80hz let alone 8000hz ._.
>ai bubble burst by the end of 2027>they're already making more factories to produce ram >ram becomes inexpensive again It's that easy
>>110026219the point is low latency and the latency goes to shit on ryzen when your fclk is not stable
>>110023984HY P17 and its clones do better than MX-7, but only slightly. PTM 7950 also works well but takes some finagling and if you're using an AIO, you need to heat cycle with the pump totally off for a while to get it fully "burned in"Both will get you with 1-2C of liquid metal/cryosheet with no real risks at all.
>>110023677column not shown - number of available games anyone actually gives a fuck about playing>top column: red>middle column: red>bottom column green breaking out of the chart bounds
>>110026262>muh infinity fabric is limiting my skills
Retard who's never built a PC before, I'm trying to put together a budget build for 2020-era vidya, is this a good deal?https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H8CS3RTB?th=1I plan to pair it with a cheap GTX 1080 Ti and a 1TB Kingston internal SSD. I'm only concerned about the USB ports, it says it has 6, but only 4 are 3.0.
>>110026414just spend more money now and get yourself something decent that will last you a good while.yes there will still be limitations
the world is going to shit soon due to the oil crisis anyways, right?
>>110026631theres an oil crisis?
>>110026414I wouldn't say it's a good deal, just normal market prices.
>>110026650
https://videocardz.com/newz/new-rtx-4090-fakes-hit-the-market-with-gpus-and-memory-almost-indistinguishable-from-real-chipsWAKE UP BABE, NEW SCAM JUST DROPPED
>>110026664I wish I would accidentally buy one of these for fuel my getting scammed fetish
What's even the point of buying a pc for games, feels like today's pc buying scene is only for enthusiasts. fuck it's all so expensive now...saving up for 6 months will be a waste because by then prices will even be higher and supplies, lower.what's your wisdom about this /pcbg/?
Since /mkg/ died, does anyone use cheap chink keyboards like Redragon or Royal Klude?
>>110026717my wisdom is that if you're a poorfag such as i you're cooked and if you're an employed person you might as well spend that money trying to have sex (prostitution, or hook ups), traveling or trying to find a way to get rich maybe consolefagging too, but they're getting more expensive too
>>110026717>>110026736The same performance years ago cost relatively less today. What people tend to focus on is the high end, which has gotten significantly more expensive as enthusiasts have been spending more and more for systems. Performance is going up at the same time larger and larger chips are being manufactured for demand. A 5090 is an insane beast and the idea that nvidia is even manufacturing 5090s is whats bringing the price up. A cheap is am5 or Intel system is competing for the same ram as an enthusiast build. Slow and cheap cards are more available than ever. People want newer next gen performance. You can buy a used consile for a fraction of the price of a new ps5 pro.
>>110026663i dont.
What good router?
>>110026807tell your isp's ai chat bot that your router don't work no more and whatever router it sends you as replacement it's a good router ;)
>>110026789Another thing that people don't understand or are purposely ignoring is that even a machine with a mid range CPU and some 5060 ti is still better than 95% of PCs. Of course it's just part of the new brain rot where people describe things as generic as possible to hide what they really mean.>I can't afford a PCThe PC is a 5090 with 128gb of RAM and 32tb of SSD>I can't afford a carThe "car" in question is a 100k limited trim truckEtcNevermind the fact that having a decent PC is an objectively good thing in itself. Same way with having any new car.IDK why it's so hard for anyone to be happy
>5090 getting discontinued>replaced with 5080 24gbwait bros, it's our time
>>110026892 5080 24gb at $10000
>reddit spacingyou have to go back
>>110026905SpacingIsNeededForEasier Reading
>>110026917>sinferidgi
>>110026905is the reddit spacing in the room with you right now?
>>110026905DEAL WITHIT FAGGOT
>>110026917>>110026928>>110026936cope and seethe
>>110026948you're just a seething retard with no arguments
>>110026954dilate, troon
>>110026902it'll only have an msrp of $2000
>>110026959good job at proving me right mongoloid
>>110023213cute
>>110026960LOL
>>110026902Nobody's paying $10k for a mere 10752 cuda cores in 2026
Anyone have HP laptop on intel haswell (4000)? I have Hp Probook 450 G1 i5 4300m with old bios (2013). I want to update bios to lock battery max charge at 80%, but i'm not sure if undervolt with throttlestop will continue to work after bios update
>>110027085You will
>>110026892makes sense, the sudden price hike could only mean discontinuation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ5Wnpg6y-E
Pretty excited about my future 2027 DDR4 RAM build
>>110027248imagine watching this
>>110027271It's probably false savings, DDR4 ain't getting any cheaper, either.
>>110027271Damn nigga, you poor
>>110024649105ppi really isnt good unless you need it because 500hz(People can't fathom I say this and shill lower ppi 4k TVs at an appropriate distance at the same time)>>110025197qdoled monitors have better full screen brightness and better colorsyou could make the argument monitors are bettermight still be brighter in hdr though lol>>110025226use it correctly>>110026892>5090 becomes collector item>5090 prices surge even more and now people will not get 2x increase but 3-5x5090 was the best value gpu>>110027248burn in is the least of anyones issues in terms of deal breaking things if considering buying one anyone who mentions it is literally retarded at this pointneed more brightness tho
>>110027271Holy shit. Might be a good reason to go back to Intel
>>110027424It's just alderlake refresh refresh refresh
>>110027431If it close to Ryzen 9000 series performance i might give in
>NVIDIA rumored to end RTX 5090 production and replace RTX 5080 16GB with 24GB modelhttps://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-reportedly-discontinuing-rtx-5090-gb202-gpus-to-be-reserved-for-rtx-pro-seriesITS OVER
>>110027448gamers are goyim and don't deserve more5090 price skyrockets more HODL and sell for 3,4,5x msrp price6090 series might not even have a 6090?if they release a 6090 will it not be full chip cut down? in that case the perf jump 5090 to "6090" might be fucking abysmal in raster?basically just relying on ai slopand they will try to sell it for an affordable 2000$ on releaseit's over
>>110027511forget rubin, the 5090's successor is rdna5 at0
>>110027532forgot about ayymdcan nvidia avoid releasing a real 6090 cut down from the top chip if they are gonna compete with big ayymd?
>>110024382X is best.Someone did a video with clear plastic using different patterns of thermal paste, and the X pattern covered the most area.
What even is the point of the 5090? Far as I can tell the only market for it is insane 4k graphics beasts with crazy setups, like 1% of the market.A 5080 does just fine with 1080p and 1440p and if you're using your card for AI shit since you're already spending so much money why wouldn't you go for a blackwell professional card?
Reminder XX90 series is a replacement for TITAN series
>>110027555Lazy devs cant optimize before AI boom.Now they have to optimize
>>1100275555090 isnt enough for 1080p max settings since you are upscaling from that res to 4k with everything turned onif game dev sloppers didnt make pure garbage yeah the game would run at 500fps but now you are left with 40-60 barely if that>What even is the point of the 5090?if you actually cared about getting better graphics performance it was the only new thing after the 4090 to upgrade toyou wait years and fucking nothing happensif you are into pc hardware are you telling me you can wait 2-3 years and not save up 2k for that shit on release?
>>110027559>Now they have to optimizeForce upscaling from very low resolutions and frame generation.Job done back to playing counter strike.
>>110023173>>110024015>>110024382>>110024385>paste
>>110027541>real 6090 cut down from the top chip back in my days, 90 cards used 95-97% cuts of the top chip
>>110027555its for marketing the gefarce brand
>>110027557False
>>110027284Motherboards have gotten more expensive instead. $250 for Z series.
>>110027557...but without clamshell memory and without vram ecc
>>110027634The real question is why they havent started selling paste patches that you can just peel off one side and slap it onto the CPU?
>>110024143You forgot to mention the 14700K should also have superior single threaded performance
>>110027634Just FYI, any kind of PTM is technically a paste. Just formed and pure cured.
>>110027660People really missed out on the fire sale of Z690 motherboards.
if the i7-14700K had a massive Broadwell style L4 eDRAM (or modern stacked L3 cache) to eliminate the memory bottleneck, it would completely run away from the 5800X3D on DDR4Why didn't Intel do it?
>>110027777they should have made the 14700k an 8 p-core chip with 96mb L3$ and no e-cores
>>110027777the 12600k with tuned ram was even with a 5800x3d13 and 14 gen are literally better you would be retarded to buy a 5800x3d over them, especially since they were free for a period of time
>>110023213Based even despite weaboo'ism.>>110023251Reminder this has dedicated AI silicon in it.Wait until modularity comes online. Prices will go back down. Don't trust vid3ogamer.net reporting on reports made by blackrock.
>>110027793whats modularity
>>110027790What is this tuned ram you speak of
>>110023173Sapphire seems to be the "best" when it comes to AMD GPUs.What brand is the best for motherboards at the moment?>t. Linux PC.
>make one 600w combined power connector to replace the inelegance and clutter of so many psu cables>new connector is immediately maxed out>oc editions of current top end cards already using two of them>seems likely regular versions of top end cards like the 6090 will require two connectors out of the box>there are already power supplies with two such outputsthis is beating an extremely dead horse but what on earth were they thinking
>>110027900>he hasn't heard of tuna'd ram
>>11002792412vhpwr works well if you have a flawless, in-spec cable with a decent psu installed by a non-negligent person and constantly monitored by a current monitoring tool
>>110027924The conspiracy side of me says they know the 600w connector is a liability.Instead of fixing it by providing another connector, they are going to slow roll new PSUs and most new high end 60xx series cards will have two connectors to get you to upgrade.>>110027939Don't forget the hair dryer
>>110027448I like how literally none of the rumours about Nvidia cards have been true.
game developers don't get enough hatehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD-P671830U
>>110028034The 5090 being a dual slot card at 600w was true.
Can a single droplet of water completely fry your motherboard?
>>110028111Depends on the conductivity of the water and what it dropped on.
>>110024776does not matterwhen they are released the OP will be updated to say wait for 2028 monitors
>>110028042now that's very interesting. i have an unreasonably powerful gayming pc which really only makes me more irritated by stutters so i'm installing this now to see if it helps things like satisfactory, although it's probably one of those games that's just full of unavoidable traversal stutter instead of shaders compliation
>Sources claim AMD reportedly hiked Radeon GPU prices $104AMD is gonna be more expensive than Nvidia at this rate.
Going to spend money on ultrawide oled monitor because there's no miniled alternative
>>110027777The 14700K losing to a 5000 series chip despite having almost double the single core performance is absurd
>>110028042what do you need more avg fps and 1% lows for? stop being poor and upgrade your cpu and gpu instead
>>110028193China has a mini led market but doesn't export to west suckers LOLThey have all the factories now so they control the market
First timer virgin here building my budget masterrace pc lolWill this (modern) 12V 2x6+2 (it says PCIe on the end) safely fit into my old r9 270 gpu ?The gpu is temp until i will buy a new one.Fucking AI said no then it said yes
>>110028228yes
I'm going to be honest after 10 years, I hate sitting at desks even more. My entire body hurts from sitting in a chair. I think I want to take the bed/couch and TV pill again for work and gaming. Instead of buying a 27 or 32 display, for the same money as a high end monitor I could get a QD Mini LED TV if I don't want burn in.
>>110028223Wth even miniled 360hz?
>>110028244thank you ! Gemini and chatgpti took my last nerves with this
>>110028042Huh, AyyMD users win again.
>>110028293i'm with you. i've never looked into them besides knowing the concept exists, but maybe i should research 'zero gravity workstations' to see how feasible they are instead of just becoming a shrimp person from years of bad posture
>>110028042https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/faqs/PA-296.html
>>110028293Just stream your games from your PC to your steam deck while lying comfy in bed like I do
>>110028178what an insane increase $104 more The 70% of Radeon GPU owners hold on to their RX580s for another year
>>110028387I hate looking downwards and my eyes like long distance accomodation.
>>110028381Now I'm curious, how it compares on GNU+Linux?
>>110028193I really want oled monitor but I am also afraid since I use my current monitor with a lot of static images and often open half a day when I am outside and doing other stuff. I hate the usual light bleed that regular VA/IPS monitors have and the blacks looking grey or grey having hazy artifacts or colors looking shit while playing games and even with the perfect settings for "motion clarity" the second I move my character it feels like motion blur deluxe is added,A friend has miniled and it looks tons better with both clarity and colors and lighting but the downside was the blooming shit and weird flicking when fps goes up and down
>>110028399i guess it's this thing at the very bottom. i usually have both disabled because it keeps downloading shaders and makes my games launch slow.
Is the MSI MAG 271QP QD OLED X28 good value at $560?
>>110028399steam on linux downloads shaders and whatever drivers it didnt download it compiles them locally
>>110028399The ACO compiler in Valves RADV is no joke 10,000x faster than the Nvidia or AMD Windows driver.
>>110028479I have it enabled and I didn't experience those issues.But I play games mostly outside of $team so maybe it's related to cache size?
>>110028505Dell Alienware AW2725D is available for $100 less, same price as a 4K Mini LED monitor.
>>110028521my cache size was like 32gb after i had the option enabled for a year. after i started playing counter strike and war thunder more it kinda became very annoying to wait every day for a few minutes just to launch those games. single player games were fine because they don't change but after every small update i had to wait. after every driver update i had to wait. after every kernel update i had to wait. it got very annoying.
>about to consider pulling the trigger on a 1440p QD-OLED instead of an LCD thinking I could maybe tolerate the burn in since my 2021 AMOLED is still fine>notice major flickering in the MUB video footage in every game >the massive Purple tint and reflection in a normally lit room, as though it's a CRT turned offunacceptable... UNACCEPTABLE!!! I see now that considering buying you was wrong
>>110028587>flickering in the MUB video footagethat's just the desynchronization of the camera shutter and the display's pwm cycle
>>110028587they are not in a normal lit room they have studio lights on
How do you cope when using dual monitors and one is oled and the other is ips?
>>110027916Depends on the board tier you’re shopping.ASUS Crosshair Apex is the best overclocking board.MSI and Gigabyte can compete in other tiers, you can go by BIOS preference if you’re planning on OCing it.Go with ASRock if you think their issues with AM5 CPUs are overblown, you might as well get the Nova board if it’s still priced at around $200~250.
>>110028600>display's pwm cycleExactly, so they're not flicker freeAny time a mechanical keyboard for example uses PWM dimming instead of DC I can literally see it with the naked eye, the light has a fuzzy lookA camera can confirm this very easily
>>110028638IPS is for work and OLED is your mental sex toy
>>110028223I only see KTC in aliexpress what other brands sell mini led monitors?
>>110027448>5080 24GB launches at $2500 but will realistically go for $5000 >5090 becomes unobtanium and is priced at 15k-20k, becoming the most coveted card that's even remotely attainable for a consumer.>Because 24GB is now +$5000, it will drag the 16GB cards up with it rapidly and true fomo starts among normies. >Mfw 5070 Ti will probably go for 3-4 grand next year.This will happen.24GB card in this environment is probably the worst thing that could happen, because it will be priced at 5k sooner or later.It will fly off the shelves instantly and because it's close enough to 16GB, it'll serve as that psychological tool that jacks up the lower range cards pricing fast.2027 will be so bad current prices will be seen as a massive bargain.
Oled monitors seem to be the only monitors with glossy screens, no ips, va or mini led, all of them are matte
>>110028641it must suck to have camera sensors as eyes
>>110028678OLED screens come with matte coating too
>>110028709Yet you can pick glossy and the same cant be said with the other stuff
>>110028661Not buying a 5070 ti at 1 grand when I had the chance versus a 600 dollar 5070 seems like a shitty decision now
>>110028680I don't know what to tell you, I noticed the light on a K95 was annoyingly harsh and bothersome on my eyes, and it had a blurry or fuzzy look if I tried to look at it, so I got my camera out to test my suspicion and sure enough I could see the PWM flicker at various brightness modes at various shutter speeds
Damn I bet I could flip my 5090 for $10k+ soonBest accidental investment I ever madeAlmost makes me want to stop using my 5080 and pack it up too so I can flip it. Maybe I'll get a 9070xt and cope with it for awhile. Or just wait for all these game ports on mac/ios to get better and do all my gaming on my normie devices.
>>110027924all 1600w PSUs I have seen come with two. Asus 20th anniversary 3000w Thor comes with four.
um guysif they won't sell the die or 32GB for a $10,000 card, what hope do the 16GB cards have left?
Gigabyte m27up out or stock
>>110028759>do all my gaming on my normie devices.If the new MSI Claw was $1000 I'd get that. Shit all I've been playing recently is Final Fantasy Tactics anyway. And those Panther lake Graphics are great performingToo bad it'll only cost more.
>>110028820it's been oos for like a 6 months the OP is useless
Hmmm if 5080 24gb rumor is true im gonna sell my 5070ti and buy 5080 24gb for dirt cheap
>>110026184Use it?
>>110028809they literally did the same to the 4090 with the 4080S
>>110028843They sold less 4080/4080S combined than 4090s.
now what? buy or wait?
>>110028854that's hard to believe
>>110028809AAAAA WHY DIDNT I BUY A 5070 TI WHEN I HAD THE CHANCE
>RTX 5080 24GBIf this launches I will buy it >>110028858You buy the 5080 24GB
>>110028858>Buy the GPU slower than the 9070xt in cs2
>>110028862it will cost the same as a 5090 did in 2025
>>110028876I'm willing to pay $2000. When Rubin launches I will sell it for more than I bought it for to an AI Startup and buy the 6090.
>>110028889that used 5080S will be worth less than a third of a new 6090
That'll put it about $5000 then.
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>110026892>>110028809>>1100288585090 is a dumb product that needn't exist anyway since amd has nothing to compete this generation5080 should have been the top card for this generation since even the 4090 was overkill
>>110028979I had the budget to buy a killer PC with 5090, but I drank it all away... Then I started reading that they self combust anyway
It amazes me that people still honestly believe a 60 series is coming at this pointGamers aren't even a blip on anyone's radar at this point unless their name is Nintendo/Playstation/Xbox, and even then consoles are pointless because everything is just being decompiled by ai to pcs that no one will have in a decade when their builds start dying and there are no consumer parts to replace them with
>>110029009why not? it's free money for nvidia and a plan c in case AI goes down the drainplus they already have all the infrastructure in place to push out new chips at minimal cost compared to gpu startups
>>1100290096xxx will come out but it will be unobtainium.Paper launch basically.
>>110029045AI is free money to nvidia, not the gaming division which they don't even report revenue on anymore because it's so minimal compared to what they're reeling in with aiMakes no sense why they would put the investment of the same materials they need for ai into a market that isn't even making them a single digit percentage of profit compared to ai
>>110029009>Hey you know that reliable market you've had for like 20+ years that built your company and you have a 90%+ market share in?>What if you just completely abandoned it in order to focus on this new untested market that's been very profitably lately, but as an industry is yet to turn a profit and investors are starting to grow concerned for?A smart business gambles a bit, but they don't bet their entire foundation on it.
Im really glad i bought 5070ti last year because im gonna get a pay cut next month
>>110029065gaming is a stable growth market while AI is a high risk high return kind of market. the fundamental r&d needed for gaming gpus overlaps with the one that's done for their AI chips since they have a unified uarchall they need to do to support gaming is to make sure that gaming gpus don't use the same tsmc node as their AI chips so they don't compete for the same limited amount of wafers
>>110028618It looks normal to me
>>110028678Glossy non oleds exist but only Apple has them. They’ve known for decades that glossy is just better.
>>110027900they used to call it magic ram, it came from the far away east orient in the land of Samsung, I belive they called it "B-Die"only learned and highly skilled Wizards could harness the power withinand then one day, it was gonefell into legend, then mythand it was no more
>>110029078>>>Hey you know that reliable market you've had for like 20+ years that built your company and you have a 90%+ market share in?No. Does it matter?
>>110029065There will still be cards that don't go through quality control for datacentre standards though those will be repurposed. They're not gonna thow functional tech away. The problem is how much stock inventory they can promise to retailers. Batches will be relatively small.
AOC Q27G4SLM/WS is the miniled monitor I want but they don't sell it to the EU
the fact is that amd has more reason to discontinue radeon than nvidia does to discontinue geforce, just based off raw earnings alone
>>110029114No they can't. Radeon exists to make chips for Sony and they need chips for the PS6
>>110029085AI gonna last here forever anon. Just like Internet and Streaming
>>110029137>Implying there will be PS6 Switch3 Xbox720Lol
>>110029139>https://isaiprofitable.com/infinite spending isn't sustainable forever
nvidia will do whatever it takes to maintain gaming market dominance. jensen has many times acknowledged the gaming enthusiast to cuda developer pipeline and talked about how much install base matters which is why he put cuda nobody cared about into gaming GPUs in the first placeof course 'whatever it takes' to beat AMD is probably more paper launches, low supply, and overpriced cards people buy anyway, but they're not just going to leave the market no matter how relatively unprofitable it is
That 24GB 5080 has me hype. I can finally buy an 80 Class card worth it since the 3080
>>110029154exactly. their unified uarch is intentional and done to support cuda from the smallest edge compute to the largest high powered serversi can't believe so many anons think that nvidia is so shortsighted to just cut off gaming (and also workstations) from an unstable money printing market that is AI
>>110028042>years of shader compilation stutter being cried about in df videos>devs finally figure out "hey maybe we shouldnt compile them as they appear but we should pre-compile them?1?" Whooah>they still manage to fuck it up and someone makes an app that actually pre-compiles them to make 1% lows go up 15 timesAre game devs retarded?
>>110028293for the same money as a pg32ucdm3 you can buy (on sale) the real best consumer display in 55" format which is the S95F or S95H/S99H>mah burn inyour miniled tv will die before the oled tv and experience more issues>>110028587vrr flicker is horrendous if it's happening, that is realpurple tint way overblown and the new coating reduces it even more if you gonna go that route1440p still sucks>>110028638if you aren't buying dual matched monitors it was already over before it began>>110028641you can't see any flicker>>110028733did you try using any oled>>110029104they are doing you a service
>>110029185>>devs finally figure out "hey maybe we shouldnt compile them as they appear but we should pre-compile them?1?" Whooah>>they still manage to fuck it upthis is exactly why i wrote that game devs don't get enough hate. ofc they could also have implemented async shader compile (basically what emulator devs are doing).
>>110029144ps6 chips are already taped out, its releasing holiday 27
Custom loops are so damn cool
>>110029192my desk is only 50cm deep will a 42" oled work, my sony bravia in the living room shits on any monitor i have tried ive realised monitors are just cucked
>>110029192I have 2 10y old TVs that I use daily. Still work fine.I'm currently posting this using a 8y old TV also working fine.Out of the 8 LCD monitors I used so far in my life I had one single failure and it was just the a capacitor that was easily replaced.
>>110029236it was cool 30 years agomodern loops look too sterile and unimaginative
amd+gamesir = so fast everyone thinks you're cheating
When did you realise chiplet cpus were the reason for your in game stutters? I switched to a 12700kf and i have not felt ueslop stutter once.
>>110029268isn't that what that framechasers jew says all the time
>Redditors mad that a card they couldn't afford even at MSRP is maybe being discontinued according to a vague rumour by some random guy on twitter.
>>110029289chubbychaser isn't someone anyone should take advice from.
>>110029268chiplet cpus stutter if your fclk is unstablesame thing happens on intel when your ringbus is unstable
>>110029300his amdip myth just keeps getting repeated everywhere
>>110029306>mythits not exclusive to amd anymore, arrow lake suffers from the same
>>110029239too big even a 32" on 60cm might be too much42" are all basic bitch woleds so a 32" qdoled might literally be better, outside of hdr brightness>>110029240>oled techthe future of planned obsolescence is now uncget with the timeseverything is built like shit>>110029267I can't tell if this is real or not anymore
>>110029306it also only appears on his fucked up setups and on the setups of people who take his advice like >degrade your cpu goym for a bit more fps>get it replaced via warranty or sell it broken and get a new one
>>110029315arrowlake has bad average fps, it doesn't have bad 1% lows like what amdip suggests
>>110029317>I can't tell if this is real or not anymore
saaar
my favorite advice from the chubby chaser was >don't do "proper" stability testing>if it is stable in the games you play it's fine
>>110029337
Well that's way worse than I thought
FUUUUUUUUI knew I shouldn't have unscrewed that, this is why I need a 3d printer
>>110029348What else would happen when the components that would've gone to desktop pc's were diverted towards datacenters
>>110029338gemini tore him apart lmao
>>110029345based tf2 player>>110029348i think it was something different
>DDR5 RAM has hit a new pricing high in the German market>It's now 544% up on the price it was before the RAM crisis began
>>110029317My last LCD monitor is "new" I guess, bought back in 2020 or 2021 not sure which. And it was a really basic entry level 4k one too.But if everything new is crap the same applies to OLED, it just more expensive.I do have an OLED tv by the way and I like it, I just will never be dumb enough to use OLED for anything with static elements like a taskbar/game huds/hell even the your character always been the center of the screen.My OLED tv already has burn-in (not super visible but you can clearly see on solid color) where the subtitles always appear because most of the content I watch is anime.
>>110029359>redditors dislike him
>>110029338his solution to unstable fclk is to throw more voltage at it when that just makes it more unstable
>>110029322>>110029306I thought AMDip was the chiplet CPUs having bad .1% and 1% lows relative to Intel CPUs, which can be seen in GN benchmarks?
>>110029366GO FOR THE TOP
>>110029359>all the issues intel shills bring up are self inflicted by retards KeK
>>110029359>usb disconnections on 5950xnoticing
Isn't it pretty well-known that AMD CPUs sabotage performance with Nvidia GPUs?
>>1100293771% and 0.1% lows are a problem with amd's cores or infinity fabric implementation imo, separate from the issue of chiplet vs monolithicarrowlake has extremely strong low fps relative to its avg fps like on previous intel cpus
>>110029387bug chasers hasnt had much credibility since his job is to sell systems that he shills on stream
>>110029393nah. it's in reverse. the nvidia driver rapes cpus.
>>110029377>chiplet CPUs having bad .1% and 1% lows relative to Intel CPUsi don't see that. maybe on unstable systems. https://gamersnexus.net/cpus/not-waste-sand-ultra-7-270k-plus-cpu-review-benchmarks
>>110029400No, it's usually that AMD CPU has driver issues with the iGPU, because it's an AMD GPU so naturally it's going to have problems.You can fix it by disabling the iGPU in the bios though.
>>110029410its a made up issue to sell overpriced overclocking sessions
>>110029363>that pic holy lmao
>>110029419you are wrong>>110029400he is correctthe gpu is a dumb pcie device. the driver tells it what to do. the driver runs on the cpu. the nvidia driver sucks ass compared to the amd driver.
>>110029419>No, it's usually that AMD CPU has driver issues with the iGPU, because it's an AMD GPU so naturally it's going to have problems.
>>110029430>You are wrong.Well, that's weird because that was literally the issue I was having and how I fixed it.
>>110029419the nvidia driver raping your cpu is a well known fact. it can be observed esp with weaker cpus and doesn't show itself on higher end systems. gaymers nexus documents their test systems very well and there is no mention of them disabling the igpu. >>110029422basically. >>110029440sounds like user issue then.
>>110029449>Gamer's Nexus.I don't really believe paid shills, desu.
>>110029455me neither, i prefer cult leaders like jufes myself
>>110029455and i don't believe randoms on the internet esp when i have no issues with my igpu being on.
>>110029463I just go off personal experience.You can't really trust people who make a living as "Influencers" to not be paid to influence things one way or another.
>>110029470Especially not Steve, desu.That faggot can't even review a case without a 10 minute rant about AI. He's obviously not going to be unbiased about certain products.
>>110029192>vrr flicker is horrendous if it's happening, that is real>purple tint way overblownhttps://youtu.be/IEy5ulC_-7g?si=WwfM2vda0CqvGqyoLook at this latest video and notice the flicker and just how bright the purple tint is in the coating showcase
>>110029384tfw thought i was getting bent over a barrel panic buying 64gb ram last novemberwell i was still, but dayum
>>110029424i have a better one
>>110029359>muh unstable fabricshit still dips on stockhe can't be defeated. nobody has defeated him yet.
>>110029500no one's buying a pc with all this cuckery happening. all america has to do was let the germans kill all the jews and then kill the germans. i hate this jewish world
>>110029538>known to be a retard>can't overclock for shiti don't really trust this retard with his fucked windows installs to test anything even at stock settingsit's as simple as that
Any anons know about >SAS drives and backplanes, as well as interoperability with SATA? Also optional U.2My new case has a very nice 12 drive backplane, and I plan to make it the center of my new NAS build/home server. I have about 5 or 6 SATA high capacity drives (mostly 8TB each), but i've been thinking about if its worth it to try and pick up some SAS drives too given the higher performance. I read many SAS drives have a 'fallback' SATA mode so you can just use them normally, but I want to make sure that using regular old SATAA drives alongside them won't force the SAS ones back to slower modes and thus negate their benefit?Also, I'm pretty sure that most consumer mobos (even higher end X670E / X870E AMD AM5 socket boards) don't haven native SAS support right? So I have to get a separate , likely PCI-E card for SAS, right? PCI-E SAS HBA cards seem to vary a fuckload in price!
>>110029367how old and how many hours on the tv? oleds also have gotten more layers and more brightness so whatever happened they are more resistant now than before
>>110029397>he literally affilate links and sells amd cpus too>he recommends x3d cpus>he talks about the best ones of the amd cpus>>110029422>stopped doing consultationHe can't be defeated>>110029463To defeat him all you need is1) Intel system2) AMD system3) Verifiable test the same things yourself4) now you know the truth instead of arguing about which eCeleb's cock you want down your throatNobody has managed to do this yet for several years now, crazy
>>110029484>look at the flicker!>look at the purple!I don't have to look at this shitty video I used them in real life
>>110029563Two systems, Test it yourself
>>110029645Post your monitor when the sun is coming into your room or when your chandelier is on in the evening
>>110029538Amen brotherWe can't trust these filthy nonbelievers
>>110029549America was already in the Jew's pockets way back in the early 20th centuryThere's no way they'd let their own blood go extinct
At some point, someone is gonna get a hold of the consumer market right? Some new actors I mean, the problem is how long they're gonna take. The current actors got too greedy they abandoned the market.But the consumer market is profitable and there's no way it will be left neglected
>>110029837China is unironically trying to break into the dgpu market like they did with nand and ram
>>110029538>shit still dips on stockwhat even is "stock" to amdall the vendors have different stock configs they use different refresh modes
>>110027448Nvidia graphics are appreciating assets at this point
>>110029966Nvidia graphics are discontinued assets at this point
oh yeah who would want a 5080 with 24gb vramnot me, ugh, stinky
>>110030018>he said 1 year ago lol>>110030037if it exists it would actually be 80 class worthy
>>1100300375080 WITH 24GB vram came out 4 years ago
now is the time to buy used for 1000$ a lot of normies are selling good hardware worth way more just to get money for a PS5 and GTA6
Taking off the brushed aluminum plate from the dark base 900 is a success with minimal loss of plastic hopefully, I don't understand why they chose to compromise the acoustics by leaving so much hollow room inside when they could have made the hinges all metal along with the door to then mass load it. I will put some butyl rubber in these spaces now. And then we will see if I can put the panel back on.
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>>110026736>>110026789>>110026888I'm from SEA and shit's fucked here. I've been eyeing a 5060 for some time now, not even 5060ti and it's still expensive as shit.
>>110029720I don't own neither monitor anymoreyou are still exaggerating how much of a problem it isyes it's not ideal viewing conditionsyou are looking at budget oleds, if you are that anal buy the new BLACKEDShield films that reduce thatif you are even more schizo about it buy a tandem woled with truegloss if you really want the best BLACCs in a LIT environmentif you want the best image qdoled in a dim roomniggas acting like raised blacks are end of the world when they are using ips or lcd anywayit's still exaggerated
>>110029859even if you reduce the ifacting like the unstable if is the root cause of the dipamd cpus have been dipping harder than intel before the x3d>>110029741you can just test things yourselfno belief needfd
>5090 discontinued>24 gig 5080reminder thats on par with a 4 year old 4080. and will cost $4000+.
