>>110031607Mathies ludlost ludbigly
>don't trust the AI cancer vaccine when you're dying>do trust the rushed out, experimental COVID vaccine for a virus with a 99.999% survival rate.
Does Terence Tao want to present the next slide?
if math is truly solved, everything is solved including programming & SWE and you are fully replaceableI recommend moving innawoods far away from civilization, unless you want to die suffering under AI-powered jewish/billionaire-run dictatorships shortlyjust know they won't give up their power
>>110031607How is this not reasonable? Hemlock is a cancer solver, but you wouldnt take it to cure cancer would you?
>>110031724It's not reasonable because it would still go through the trial stages. A hemlock-style problem would be caught extremely early.Long(er) term side effects would be caught by early adopters who had stage 4 cancer and would have died much earlier anyways.
>>110031607People who make drugs today don't understand what they do. Most of it is just throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks.
I'M GOING TO FUCKING DIE ANYWAY, TERRY WHY DO I GIVE A FUCK IF YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THE CURE WORKS
>>110031622>doesn't give a single shit about his elderly or immunocompromised fellow humans who's survival rate was far less>wonders why normal people consider him insufferable
>>110031607>cancer cocktail analogy
>>110031607Yeah this analogy is unreasonable as fuck, and also misses the pointWe study mathematics to bridge closer to the Platonic world. If AI does it for us then WE are not getting bridged, the AI is.
>>110031607Terrible point because nobody has a fully top to bottom understanding of anything in medicine or biology. It's just trial and error.
>>110031622I won't trust either
>>110031918why is the egg petear?
>>110031879Do you think normal researchers just take the first chem cocktail that seems to work and then jump straight to human trials?
>>110031607being able to design a miracle drug that cures all cancers requires a deep enough understanding of the human body to also be able to predict the likelihood of severe side effects. you can always just throw more intelligence at the problem; this is basically cope
It's a mathematical proof. Tao or any other mathematician can read the result and give feedback if it is wrong. I will grant him at least that if, somehow, my life comes to depend on OpenAI's Quasi-Riemann proof being correct, I would want a human to have verified it first.
>>110031607If my option is die in six months or take this experimental med which might make me live longer than six months it’s a no-brainer lol. Fuck it if someone understands it or not
>>110031607it's overthere will be nothing left for humans to do but slave in coal mines for the government because the AI robots are too valuable to risk, but your life is worthless
"scientists" are corrupt and don't give a fuck about the subject itselfeventually I grew to hate them
>>110032091Mediocre bait
>>110031607mathies are all about control and calculating outcomesso potential loss of control and CANNOT COMPUTE OUTCOME really hurts them on an existential level so they become doomersI mean some 20 year old barely out of his nappies goes on TV to say the world is going to end and he knows this because he is so so so smart?get the fuck out of here
>>110031989>trials>human trialsTwo different things bucko.
>>110031607>artfags get replaced>I sleep>codefags get replaced>I sleep>mathfags get replaced>STOP THE COUNT
>>110032176You can scratch 'human' and still have a valid question.
>>110031911This ironic considering the fact that hospital and nursing home visits were banned during Covid. Even after the vaccine rollbacks, visits were severely restricted. No one ever protested about this.
>>110032220*vaccine rollout
>>110031911so the AI cancer vaccine is fine, right?
fire all the mathfags
mathfags were warned
>>110032320this, we should have stuck with one, two, many like the savages
>>110032320kek
>>110032177It feels like SWEs have just taken their replacement lying down. It's insane how there were no real tech unions before this point.
>>110031622spbp /thread
>>110031607>consentIsThereSomeoneYouForgotToAsk.jpg
>>110032185It's only a valid question if you're a retard. You're retarded then?
>>110032320Jajaja
>>110032220What exactly is ironic about limiting potential exposure to the immunocompromised? Are you retarded? (Answer: Yes)
>>110031622Buddy you were not in the phase 1 human trials. If you were young, by the time it was offered to you, hundreds of millions of experiments had already been run on other people.
>>110031607These are the same people that called me a terrorist and said I should have my kids removed for refusing a flu shot that didn't work for a virus I'd already had. I'm glad they are losing everything and I'm sick of people pretending that's a bad thing.
>>110032552so you'll be taking the AI vaccines then, right? you don't want to be a heckin' luddite now, do you?
>>110031674>if math is truly solved...Math is makebelieve mindfart bullshit.Have AI solve physical problems that can be experimented in reality.Have AI produce the room temp superconductor.
>>110031911Why can't they just take the vaccine? Oh yeah it doesn't work.
>>110031607>a human must verify the AI solutionsounds reasonableAI cultists are insane
>>110031607>this AI-generated solution (of the cancer killing cocktail) is confirmed by mathematical modelslmfao, is this how mathematicians think of themselves, that their extremely niche autistic models and theories will somehow cure cancer?
>>110032575We could've had a future where AI became the pinnacle of academic impartiality. It could've been used to give completely unbiased interpretations of law, medicine, engineering, philosophy, ect. in a fact-based and impartial manner. We could've had complete objectivity. but alas, jews
>>110031607We still don't actually understand anathesia btw if it just werks who gives a shit
>>110031607>what do you mean you're not gonna inject yourself with specification-gamed mystery juice based on the alien intellect's moon logic?>it's safe and effective, only a crazy mathie would claim otherwiseTake note that the "people" trying to gaslight you like this are the same people who post pro-AI propaganda. Make sure you cement this association in your mind. These "people" would have unthinkable medical torture inflicted on you if they could. If you think pro-AI insects deserve free speech, you deserve your forced AI injection.
>>110031607Retarded slide.Why have Lean formal verification and a long clinical trial at all in the process then if your actions are going to be dictated by the opinion of a random "expert"?
>>110032328GabeN knew all along.
>>110032728You tell me. Why bother validating humanly incomprehensible AI slop "medicine" if no one in their right mind is going to use it?
>>110031911COVID was a gift from God. A illness that kills almost exclusively fatties and boomers.
>>110031607>Could the Biontech solution be misaligned with broader goals, such as avoiding deleterious long-term side effects?Hmmm, dunno, ask vaxx-cattle.
>>110032539>, hundreds of millions of experiments had already been run on other peopleIs that the cope you tell yourself? What happens if it gives you turbo cancer in 10 years?
>>110032757>humanly incomprehensible AI slopThere is no such thing.>if no one in their right mind is going to use itPeople use things they don't fully understand all the time.
>>110031607Autism
>>110032793>There is no such thing.You'll find that there is such thing, if you start taking your Thorazine as prescribed.>People use things they don't fully understand all the time.This is not a coherent response. Try again.
>>110032649you still need real uncensored AI that isn't static in training data and can learn/reason organically for that, which LLMs aren't and we don't yet havethat future is still possible but not if they bury competing AI paradigms for this just to maximize shareholder value
>>110032817We don't understand how anesthesia works, retard.Now go try having a surgery without it.
Math should be a hobby no one should get payed for it or have tenure.
>>110032836>We don't understand how anesthesia works, retard.Again, this is not a coherent response. You are clearly psychotic.
>>110032770that's not how any of this works, anon
>>110032847>that's not how any of this works, anonWhy not?
>>110032369expect it hasn't happened
what the fuck is Leanthey sippin?
>>110031607>before injecting this cocktail into your bloodstream, would you want to know...I don't care nigga I'm fucking dying here
>>110032858This is the reason many tech companies moved into Texas.
>>110032847>synthetic immunomodulator drugs made by the most dishonest companies in the world don't work that way because real vaccines don't work that way and we decided to pull a bait and switch and call these drugs vaccines too360 no scope clotshot to the brain
>>110031607>Before injecting this cocktail into your bloodstream, would you want to know that there is at least one human cancer expert who understands the mechanism behind this cure?Yes.
>>110031607that's what I call "human slop" argument nowadays. Seems incoherrent to me.
>>110033005>saaaar, that's what I call "human slop" argument nowadays. Seems incoherrent to me saaar!!!
>>110033005the point is human experts are still needed to verify AIslop outputs because actual humans can see the bigger picture and reason outside of a prompted goalretards wouldn't get it though
>>110033005Literacy standards really have taken a nose dive.
>>110031607Are they describing the covid vaccines in metaphor?
>>110031911Go back to r/zerocovidcommunity and your lesbian (trans) bar in that state where george floyd happeebd
>>110033139No, because the mechanism of the COVID vaccines is known.
>>110031911Coincidentally enough this rebuttal frustrates the math impaired who can't understand that 0.1% of a million is a thousand and can't grasp concepts like the birthday paradox
>>110032146mediocre brain
>>110031607>would you want experts to understand it before injecting itIdeally I'd certainly WANT that, sure. It'd be reassuring.If that's not possible then whatever, I'm obviously gonna try the AI cocktail anyway. (I guess there are some scenarios where I wouldn't, like if it's one of the cancers that's already very treatable, or if I'm elderly and likely to die of something else first anyway.)
>>110032702funny you say this after the biggest turbocancer psyop perpetrated by the very same "experts" you championai or not, the narcissists in charge want to inflict nothing but misery on their betters and will stop at nothing to exert every tiniest bit of control they can possibly get away withif you didn't learn by now you haven't been paying attention
>>110032841you poor literal tool
>>110031607>schizo babbletest in in mice and pigs for 20 years
>>110031911>immunocompromiseda population of people that were a rounding error but everyone conveniently managed to become immunocompromised overnight at the start of the plandemic
>>110034690no just grab a bunch of pro ai redditors to fast track
>>110034714It really feels like this in every context.
>>110031607>pharma shitdoesn't this guy know Eli Lilly has AI machines cranking for future medicine results since January?https://investor.lilly.com/news-releases/news-release-details/nvidia-and-lilly-announce-co-innovation-ai-lab-reinvent-drug
>>110031989that is exactly what they do, you know nothing about the pharmaceutical industry if you think drugs being taken off the market isnt regular and standard
>>110031622>don't trust the rushed out, experimental COVID vaccine for a virus with a 99.999 % survival rate>do trust the rushed out, experimental cancer vaccine that absolutely nobody knows if it works, why it works or if will give you turbo AIDS cancer in two weeksSame thing could be said about you, retard.
>>110031622My main issue with the Covid vaccine isn't that it wasn't safe, but also that it didn't do anything to protect you from getting Covid
>>110031607if I have cancer I take itif I dont have cancer I just wait and see if people who took it grow wings and die a horrible mutagenic death
>>110032770two more weeks for mass vaccine deaths
>>110033065>actual humans can see the bigger picture and reasonIt's as simple as>bigger context window>websearch on >reasoning on>"make no mistakes"
>>110031607why do you need a human cancer researcher to understand it if the smarter AI already understands it? do you wait for someone to prove that they taught a dog to understand every drug you take? it's the same thing.
predditors LOVE pharma companies and HATE when their own metaphors are turned on them
>>110031607are mathematicians even panicking? the only one who understands the AI's super hard math solution are the mathematicians themselves, it's not like they're gonna be replaced or trimmed down like SWEs
>>110035128There's no argument for math that can't also be made for software. They're both safe or neither are. Code has to be verified for correctness by other humans still. I would say more than that it needs humans to push back and say why some features are not possible as written. You can say that someday these kinks will be ironed out but then you could also say that about math.
>>110035128Yeah for now. Those puzzles aren't infinite
>>110035165>Those puzzles aren't infinitehow do you know that? we don't even know if the universe has a physical boundary
>>110035163there are a fuckton more SWEs than Mathematicians, and it's a lot harder to verify math than to verify code
>>110031911COVID vaccines weren't about preventing anyone from getting the flu in the long term though, it was about avoiding a total collapse of the healthcare system in the short termThe vaccines did nothing to prevent spread, and their effective range in mitigating the symptoms was somewhere between three to six months at best per shot. How many booster shots did you get? Most people stopped after their second, and pretty much every government stopped paying for it after the third but COVID still kept spreading. The nutjobs are still getting boosters even today!By this point every single human including previously uncontacted tribes and every single immunocompromised person on the planet have gotten COVID at least once.
>>110031607Can someone answer please, shouldn't the AI know how it works if it can be invented via AI?
>>110035284What if AI decides to fuck around with humans
>>110035261Software is also a lot more important day-to-day to keep infrastructure running. Both fields will change, I don't buy that either one is sufficiently more protected.
>>110035293I guess if we are using the medicine we're also accepting this as a possibility. Somehow I don't think it would. We wouldn't be so significant to be a threat.
>>110035264They sold the idea that Covid was a boomer remover and naturally those fucks panicked and did everything in their power just so they can keep living and fucking us longer.We need a covid2 amd this time those tiktocking nurses can get fucked
>>110031622>tfw when got my boosters nearly every year>tfw have not gotten Covid once at allEnjoy the long covid symptoms faggots, hope you have fun with the permanent heart damage
>>110031607Technically he's using it as analogy like statistical modeling or biochemistry aspect. You can't just take x drug synthesised by the algorithm and directly dump it into the human when it requires atleast some understanding of what it just gave us. So he isn't wrong but Tao is a terrible communicator. I think he should stop for now and let more competent on do that part.
https://teorth.github.io/tao-web/slides/math-2-0-caltech-2026.pdfThis was his full slide
>>110032091What if it lets you live but you are constantly in excruciating pain ?Would you take it then ?
>>110032552yeah, but you were the moron that refused a flu shot because "you knew better"
