>>110030291
We still pretending storm is good?

/iemg/ Dogma Check
Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:

>Crinacle is not your priest.
Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.

>Harman and JM-1 ≠ perfect.
It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.

>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.
Great value, yes. Immune to QC issues and hype cycles? Nope.

>Graphs are not sound.
They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.

>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.
Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.

>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.
If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.

>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.
Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.

>Loud posts =/= smart takes.
Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.

>Cognitive dissonance.
When you're presented with a truth that threatens your entire perception of the world around you, your brain will simply refuse to process it.

This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.

>>110033007
Moveable points is crazy.

>>110032819
people seem to think so. there's definitely demand for it

Any OpenAI papers on techs yet?

Audio is something you merely made an acquaintance with. Obsessing over AES/Harman bullshit literature is exactly why the ball is not in your court.

>>110033307
you wish but LLMs can't hear

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Do I set negative gain in my player app or in the DAC?

>>110034215
In the EQ software if you're running one, or the player's EQ. What DAC are you using?

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Is the Zero Red Menstruation supposed to sound blunted and bright? I thought this thing was tuned Harman Neutral because this thing gets shouty on my DAC that I had to knock down the 2k-4k a few decibels.

>>110034422
Snowsky Melody

>>110035091
If you use the Fiio control app or web interface on the source itself it would be better to set negative preamp from there

>>110035136
Alright, thanks.

>>110034759
That's how harman sounds usually.

>>110035415
Yeah, it's the most validated target when it comes to targets with proper listening testing for a reason. Obviously it's the most important and resolute target based on science

I was in a room with crinacle

>>110035460
Unironically this. Verified science does not lie

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Harman was created with deep insertion. If you use shallow insertion you need to reduce 5kHz.

>>110032921
so...what's the reason theyre keeping wired buds?

>>110036686
Techs

>>110036686
Mossad can detonate the battery at any moment.

Why is Harman so good, bros?

>>110038624
cuz it's simulating speakers + subs steady-state response in a room

>N days until TOTL brands evaporate
Was it autism?

>>110035799
Did he fart?

>>110038914
maybe it was meant to be some sort of longitudinal bayesian argument. i hoped he'd keep it up because he'd be in for a surprise in about two weeks time

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>>110032510
I've only ever bought one IEM and it was years ago, but it was a budget one so I'm looking for a small upgrade.

>budget
$100 but willing to go a little higher.
>intended use
Music solely.
>music examples
Video game soundtracks mostly, music with lots of vocals, and occasionally JPop.
>past gear
Moondrop CHU II.

Thanks anons!

>>110039158
EDC Pro

>>110039158
If you want an actual upgrade in techs, get EA500LM

>>110039158
It's PVRE

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>>110038914
Psyop so bad had to kill totl myself.

>>110039932
What variation of naked fox did you get this time?

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>>110039963

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my first IEM, the Bunny DSP, arrived and this thing is great. great noise canceling and sound. they fit snug in my ear as well. i can never go back to my galaxy buds pro that i've been using for years. thank you to that one anon who recommended it

>Video game soundtracks mostly

Can't take you niggas seriously at all.

>>110040705
It's peak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imxSXI1IYVs

Got AI to adjust my IEMs to IEF 2025 as much as possible based on a frequency response graph after reverse-engineering the EQ (went from 10 fixed frequencies and integer dB gain on the Android app to 10 band anything on my PC)
Has anyone else used AI-built scripts to find precise EQ settings? Is there a better option I'm missing? It doesn't have the peaks that Squiglink's auto EQ has at least

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>>110040871
Don't EQ anything by graph after 6kHz. It depends on the length of your ear canal, insertion depth, tips, etc.
>reverse-engineering the EQ
What the fuck, just make it from scratch., the EQ tab is right there.

>>110040907
>Don't EQ anything
Bet

>>110040938
Class 3 listener moment.

>>110040907
>What the fuck, just make it from scratch., the EQ tab is right there.
The first IEM I tried for this is a TWS IEM, going beyond the built-in EQ was more of an extra thing after implementing all the ANC/codec/voice prompt settings so it could sound the same everywhere (no custom voice prompts, that's actually locked down)
The >6kHz thing is good to know

>>110040981
beyond the Android app's settings for the built-in EQ*

>>110040279
It's incredible how dogshit most TWS fit despite their R&D.

>>110040950
>Identity politics in audio
Really not the flex you think it is..

>>110041227
Okay boomer.

>>110041235
Your favorite people, Sean Olive and Floyd Toole, are boomers.
>"No! Not like that"

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>>110041264
They know their place.

>>110041269
Yeah. At your altar, altarboy.

>>110040871
dumb shit motherfuckers do to just not use their ears

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Hey dudes. My previous earbuds broke. I don't need earbuds THAT often but I have enough money to spend to get something "good" that isn't necessarily "premium". I want a good bang for my buck that'll last me for a few years but I don't wanna overthink it either since I wanna replace them fast

>Budget: 200-300€ I guess?
>Use: for my android phone, listening to music or watching shows in bed, podcasts when doing housework
>music examples: hard to say? Jazz fusion/funk, J/City pop, don't care for rock or metal music
>Past gear: Teufel REAL BLUE TWS 2 ,I thought they were just fine, got them on sale for 100 bucks 3 years ago

Thanks!

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Boughted the fairbuds because I liked the idea of earbuds that didn't instantly become ewaste the moment their shitty battery died. Holy shit worst mistake of my life they sound like absolute dogshit. Somehow simultaneously tinny and muffled. Antenna is trash. Literal 5 dollar earbuds sound better. What a blunder. Instant return.

>>110041387
Boughted the based Sony XM4 and got exquisite sound and still can replace batteries once they die. Not as easily as in the Fairbuds, but it's easy enough.
I just refuse to buy anything that will die together with its battery.

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anyone have experience with the moondrop evo II? was thinking about picking them up

>>110040705
better than your niggermusic

>>110041225
seriously. none of the tips for my buds would fit well in my ear, so i always had to jam it in. every time i removed my buds from my ear, the tip would come off and get stuck in my ear, so i had to dig in to retrieve it
it's refreshing to have something that can just slide in

>>110041269
>serious listening
what is that like?

>>110040705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zf-iOzdbG4

Walkman Nwa55 vs Hiby r3 pro ll

or should i shoot for the walkman NWMA1?

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>>110032510
The meze alba sounds very good with my energetic Japanese music.

so is ziigat seraphim the storm for 1/10th the price?

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>>110041987
not even close.

>>110041981
You shouldn't race mix techs with Jap music. You need a Sony PMP + jap pos.

>>110041987
more in line with harman pos

>>110042018
Snoyshit can't into balanced at an affordable price, so nyo...

>>110039991
is getting multiple faceplates of the same IEM really worth it

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guess i'll make a recommendation request. my soundmagic e80cs just broke. i'm probably just gonna buy another pair, i've been using them for 8? 10? years and i like them well enough + they have a mic, but i figured i'd see what there is nowadays

>budget
60-80 cad
>intended use
general usage. i'm not an audiophile so i don't care if i can hear the guitarist's slapping balls and pinpoint their location. just normal usage (music, games, on my phone and my pc, etc.)
>frequency response
pic related. this is for the e80d but i assume it has the same as the e80c since the only difference is the connector
>past gear
like i said, soundmagic e80cs. i liked them a lot, good range imo. right amount of bass and good highs. they sounded a bit duller/muddier on my pc than on my phone. i assume that's resistance shenanigans (that i don't really understand) but i'm not getting a dac so i lived with it
>additional request
this is probably an impossibility since it seems like most iems don't have one at all but i'd prefer a mic on them since i don't have a separate one and of course half the time i'm just talking to my friends on discord

thanks in advance

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流石は国産の兄貴
ベースドすぎる

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魂が洗われるオーディオシステム。

>>110041361
If you want to keep using tws, then I'd recommend budget sets that have cheaper build than the big brands but sound as good, and in most cases a lot better. Check out moondrop space travels, puddings, etc. I own the space travels and I like them better than my airpods pros. My airpods, airpod bros, and momentum buds all died within a few years, I could've gotten 10 space travels during that time.

>>110042254
+1 for providing a graph, the Moondrop Chu 3 graphs very similar from sub bass to 6k, then looks like smoother treble after. I'd recommend you check that out. Although I don't have the Chu 3, I have the Chu 2, which is similar in design, and I can vouch for the build quality which is stellar, the shell is small and comfy. You won't run into any oxidiation issues since you live in Canada.

>>110040279
It's honestly unbelievable how bad the galaxy buds pro 2 sound for me, even paired with my samsung phone.

>>110042868
>You won't run into any oxidiation issues since you live in Canada.
i do too and all of my iems with metal nozzles have experienced some form of oxidation and condensation

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>>110042009
>Dat tranny tuck
Why'd they have to ruin it like that?

>>110043011
Just a bad crossover implementation it seems. If anything they should have moved the tuck a bit back, at 100Hz-300Hz.

hey lads, anyone knows a guy in Europe who can repair small IEMs? I have a pair which need a female mmcx connector transplant (the pin is broken) and I cannot do it myself

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>>110041987
Never listen to marketing ever.

>>110039991
tell me more about these custom plates

>getting headache when and after wearing my IEM
what's that all about?

>>110042058
Well if it's fox IEM I want it to be something I actually wanna use. I only bought P50 because someone said it fits him better than g10. Not the case for me at all. And its faceplate is smaller so less techs.

>>110043584
Too much treble or isolation.

>>110043601
>someone said it fits him better than g10
lmao

are the tanchjim revo's worth picking up or am I better sticking with my KZ AZ09 adaptors

>>110043882
That KZ pos is so old anything released now is probably an upgrade

Heyo, I don't quite understand what IEMs are. Are they fundamentally just better earbuds? I normally use over-ear headphones (currently have AKG K371), but I need something more portable that still has good sound and I don't want wireless lithium bombs.

I was thinking of getting the CrinEar Daybreak from the shopping guide (based on budget and aesthetics desu). Is the cable they come with short-ish (1-1.5m since I couldn't find it listed)? I'd be using them with a HiBy Digital M500.

>100-200€ budget
>listening to Pop, Rock, Electronic, Alternative etc on the go
>only relevant previous gear is the aforementioned AKG K371 and I really like the sound

Also I prefer not fucking with an EQ if possible, shit just needs to sound "about right". Are the Daybreak a good choice?

>>110041987
nah but you can just eq to it. then you'll hear its nothing special anyway

About to order the Truthear Hexas. What am I in for bros?

why is moondrop pudding so good, bros?

>>110044875
BA pos, avoid.

>>110032510
Snowsky Echo series are worth mentioning as worth considering, with the advent of custom firmware development for them.

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Do these really break that easily? Any alternatives?

>>110044891
is "moondrop pudding" the green goo you pick out of the brass tips of moondrop iems?

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>>110044299
>I don't quite understand what IEMs are. Are they fundamentally just better earbuds?
Basically, instead of shit like pic related, which is designed to cover the ear canal from the outside, IEMs are designed to go inside the ear canal. External noise isolation is inherently better, while the potential sound quality is also better because you don't have to compensate for the disadvantages of a design that sits loosely outside the ear canal.

7Hz Salnotes Zero 3 when?

>>110044875
Neutral sound. Depending on your HRTF around 6-8 KHz, it'll either satisfy you and turn out a bassless dogshit. For me it's awesome, I love it.

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>>110032510
OK, so my ear holes are asymmetrical and the smallest tip that came with the meze albas are too big for my left ear; my right ear is a medium. Any XS/SS eartip recommendations?

>>110045907
Romanian pos is this small? holy shit, must be very comfy
as for the tips, just adjust the insertion depth, ear canals are tapered and get narrower the deeper you shove your pos
if you want extremely small tips, Spring Tips S are tiny

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>>110040705
yes

>>110044299
>Are the Daybreak a good choice?
pretty much yeah

>>110040705
Only real music. Check your techs.
https://youtu.be/NK0v1ftxZYc

>>110045506
ahahahaha
good one

>>110045506
Worse. It's a TWS.

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>>110046027
Yeah they're really comfy (when they fit) and sound really good with what I threw at it. I ordered the Dunu S&S since it comes as an assorted pack, but if that doesn't work then I'll try the ones you recommended.

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>>110032510
Waiting for my Panasonic EAH-AZ100E to arrive :^) Also boughted a pair of SpinFit Omni for them.

>>110044299
If you've never tried an iem before, you could go for a cheap budget set first to see if you like the fit and comfort of wearing them.

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>>110046132
should have gotten the Pro

What's the endgame for comfort? I like the q1 pro but I was wondering

>>110047230
AKG EO-IG955 with SpinFit W1 tips

I boughted Earfun Air Pro 4+ and have since stopped caring about IEMs
When will you find your endgame?

I'm about to sell my last pair of iems. No doubt most soulless branch of audio hobby.

>>110046224
should have bought moondrop pudding instead

>>110048198
did you finally took the twschadpill?

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>Audio Imaging Test Lab
https://imaging-lab.xyz/
actually test your techs

>>110045387
...what?

>>110048532
Don't fall for that bait

so tempotec v1 is not going to be restocked soon on aliexpress, i guess

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>>110047689
Obsoleted by fox tws.

Fox pos, avoid.

all pos, avoid.

>>110048511
>.xyz
vibe coders can't afford a server and domain... sad

>>110049156
of course you pick the smallest thing to complain about- and it's not even a real complaint. go test your techs, hoe.

>>110044875
Had ones and return them for the truthear pures, sibilance on the hexa hurts likes a bitch

tws is so much better than wired it's insane
you have to be mentally ill to still prefer wired lol

>>110049379
lmao what a great take. thanks, esoteric audio knowledge anon

Hey, /iemg/, what's the product news in relation to the EU battery regulation coming into effect in 2027? Any manufacturers solved the issue of replaceable batteries?

>>110048198
What did you replace them with?

>>110049402
it's the truth

>>110044875
>>110045387
They were way better than the old buds that came with my old 10s phone, but blown complely into the water by the Beyerdynamics DDT 770 headphones - EXCEPT for the 770's lack of bass. And which only cost me 10$ more.....

>>110049379
Worse comfort, worse sound quality, worse latency, have to charge them. is there a single good thing about TWS?

>>110049474
>Worse comfort, worse sound quality, worse latency, have to charge them
skill issue

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>>110049428
Sennheiser Momentum 5

>>110049428
IEMs solved the issue of replaceable batteries.

>>110049535
>replacing one issue with ten other issues
sounds intuitive as fuck.

>>110049622
1 issue - skill issue.

>>110049638
calling willful incompetence/armchair superiority a skill is peak /iemg/. the only skill here is failing upward with pure arrogance

>>110049728
Goypod user btw.

>>110049735
Are you/they? My apologies for not picking up on your/their personal hindrances.

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>muh battery
>muh latency
>muh extra shit to carry around
just plug it in bro

>>110049777
Still has useless garbage in the shells that makes it less comfortable.

>>110047199
Where can you buy this? I can't find it.

>>110049809
Oh they're not out yet. Cool.

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>>110049836
hopefully they improved techs

how DARE they try and remedy the issues with tws by giving you the OPTION to use it with a wire!!! a POX on BGVP!

>>110048511
Moveable points is crazy.

>>110050439
?

what's the most aura farming pos rn?

>>110050981
artpical pos or ibuki

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why arent you running your cables through a wooden block for a more natural, earthy sound?

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dunno. i dont really find the HEXA sibilant or particularly bright at all. idolaholic actually sounds really pleasant on it.

>>110051978
me love big daps

>>110048532
Which word did you not understand.

>>110052803
Maybe try explaining the phrase for him. Might help.

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>>110042533
Hello /r/eddit!

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>>110051222
Go back, /r/etard.

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I found a balanced cable that is a good match for my meze Alba's with flat 2-pin connectors.

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>>110053097
>balanced

>>110053230
>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU DON'T NEED THAT STOP ENJOYING THINGS IN YOUR NICHE HOBBY
sneed

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Since there's no hpg, I'm looking for a new pair of headphones because the Superlux I'm currently using sounds like ass. Unfortunaly, using IEMs for prolonged periods of time is painful for me no matter how much time I spend getting used to them
>budget is up to $400
>intended use are music (pretty much all genres and subgenres: grunge, breakbeat, folk rock, orchestral and chamber music, ambient, DSBM, EDM, shoegaze, noise, pop, nu metal, trip hop, etc.), games, movies
>tried and enjoyed EM6L and Supermix4 (minus the pain), looking for something similar or more fun sound-wise, with a decent but not overwhelming amount of bass

>>110053317
I really like my koss a/550. They're $350.

>>110053317
FT1 or 480 Pro

I have some Tanchjim Origins; might anyone have information on what kind of filters should be used for replacement in them? The swappable nozzles have both a metal mesh and some thin cloth-like black filter beneath it. I kind of fucked up said thin black filter thing when I was cleaning the mesh. Not sure if I'm supposed to replace the wire mesh either, though it's intact.

zero:3 wh3n?

I'm curious to know your wishlist (even if you can't afford it)

>>110053649
Aune BX2 Magnum, Fiio M33, and some kind of nice wooden openback Fostex

Question, do any of the USB DACs like Fosi, SMSL, Douk, etc, allow for their optical inputs to show up as a recording device on your PC? Or are the optical inputs just internal inputs you can switch the device to?

I'm looking for something that allows me to record from an optical line, but while I'm at it I may as well get a decent DAC if one can do that. If not I'll just get some $40 startech or something.

>>110042357
>>110042533
based TRI Clarion enjoyer

>>110053649
A custom IEM from softears and GL-AMT16. The rest of what I want hasn't been created yet.

>>110049522
Thx. Are they any good?

>>110053649
origin lost manor (gone))
sneedaudio neko
mega5est

>>110049251
Is there a big difference between Pure and Hexa?

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>>110053649
Includes some obtainium too but I don't need more IEMs right now

>>110040279
>bunny DSP
I put Dunu S&S eartips on it and it made it 10x better for me at least.

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>>110036686
Charging - nobody has time for this.

>>110053649
really want to try the thieaudio v16

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>he's not using Forget Not to stress test his IEMs
>https://youtu.be/DrM2lo6B04I
How do your IEMs fare? Especially at 5:20+

I'm on my last pair of sancai tips...

>>110054918
What are you doing with them.

>>110054923
Using them and replacing them when they get too used.

>>110054939
I've been using the same pair of 7hz tips every day for the last 4 years.

>>110054947
They haven't ripped? You just clean them up and it's al lgood?

>>110054975
Yeah. If you consider wiping them with my sleeve "cleaning".

>>110054982
You don't clean your IEMs with rubbing alcohol???

>>110055016
No.

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I got it now. Will use for my PC and want to get some Planar IEMs. Yeah I am that guy that spammee which ones i should buy like 2 weeks ago. So 7hz timeless 2 is prob what i want for vidya and music, mostly indierock and various electronic music.any opinions on other good planars?

Am I tripping or is this anon a dirtbag for not cleaning his tips and IEMs?

>>110055086
Why are you using a dongle DAC for your PC, retard? Why do you buy hyper x trash, retard? Why did you buy fiio instead of a good brand, retard?

>>110055104
You either wasted money on a desktop DAC because it has desktop in the name or can't hear the noise from the built-in sound card, and I don't know which is worse.

>>110055104
>>110055104
I just wanted something small with volume control and that will be enough for an IEM planars. I have checked plenty of other options and while some were better they were much more expensive. Yeah HyperX is what I used prior to this and its basically from my old headset. I am fairly new to IEMs and only own a pair of Moonlight starfield and now i want to try a Planar IEM.

>>110055196
Why did I waste money on a desktop DAC?

>>110055325
because it has desktop in the name

the tanchjim luna asanotanch is my desktop DAC

>>110053518
I have most of their IEMs, they're probably using their usual Tanchjim filters. 500 mesh density is pretty much the same thing.

>>110055444
based trip'd sista

Hello, are there any recommended cheap USB (not C) DACs?

>>110045724
>>110046090
>>110046736
thanks everyone! I have ordered the crinear daybreak, fit should be fine

>>110055548
Adapter

>>110055237
Ok Fiio Snosky Melody works well. The only annoying thing but its minor is that it doesnt control volume directly on PC like TSN Pearl would do apparently. So volume buttons works anyway just not visually. Another annoying thing is that i had to adjust best settings via Android, but I only need to do it one time so its okay .PCs web interface have only PEQ with no other settings and PC control application is for Chinese only like wtf, unsure if even have more settings.
Now i will wait for sale in November and get me some Planar IEMs as well.

>>110055331
I didn't buy a dekstop DAC because it had desktop in the name. In fact, it didn't have desktop in the name.

>>110055778
>t doesnt control volume directly on PC like TSN Pearl would do apparently

You want this though.

>>110055995
Yep I had to check up via AI what it meant and its better. Just feels weird when I dont see it changing in UI, but it doesnt matter in the end, so far I am impressed but this little thing. Someone told me i wont notice difference with my starfields but idk it does feel cleaner and have less noice compared to hyperx shit.
I had to ask AI for best settings also

High Gain depends on your headphones

IEMs / low-impedance headphones (32Ω or lower) Low Gain (less noise floor, less hiss at low volume)
Over-ears (150–300Ω, like HD490s, HD600s) High Gain (needs the extra drive)

I changed to Low Gain

DAC Work Mode: Class H Class AB

This is the big one. Multiple reviewers and a measurement site agree:

Class AB = tighter bass, cleaner treble, more natural
Class H = boomy bass, hazy treble, and one measurement site found it "performs very poorly and is very unstable" on this specific device (degradation that changes over time)

Changed to AB, have no clue about this shit, but I think this is specific modes for this dongle

Rest was good on default apparently
There was DRE but its off have no idea what that shit is

>>110056050
not readin allat

Hexa sounds super fun.
Pure sounds super boring.
Change my (personally) mind.

>>110054585
>Pula Arc
hahahahahaaa

i will buy FiiO M25 R2R this month.

>>110053649
ocharaku flat4 sakura plus
ucotech r3pro
spirit torino twin pulse

>>110053649
7Hz Salnotes x CrinEar Zero 3

>>110055104
>dongle DAC for your PC
nta, but dongles, if they're decent enough double as a desktop amp when it comes to IEMs. retard.
>>110055237
you did fine. good choice.

I don't like my pure
I like my tea pro

I want headphones kinda like the tea pro please advise

>>110057538
>"low distortion+EQ"
apparently if your headphones are $5, this is the magic formula

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>goldenshow and resolve vibecoded an endgame PEQ software
wow... it's gonna be public soon:tm:

>>110057556
I don't like eqing

>>110057589
holy based thank you clankers

>>110057589
moving dots? the fuck?
get that shit out of here

>>110057590
totally valid stance

>>110055086
You don't need to spend much on a good planar at all. Start with KZ PRX

>>110057556
You need to spend $500 on headphones to get distortion as good as on $5 IEMs.

>>110057528
No they don't, retard.

>>110057819
>he needs more than 30mW for IEMs
Mental and physical illness.

>>110057708
I have had my starfield for many years, so I just want same with Planars and buy the best I can get around 7Hz Timeless 2 price. I am not planning to own many. I wish I could just visit Singapore there is that store crinacle running and then I could just try a bunch.
The one you recommended seems fine, but I think 7Hz will have better quality and sound overall, but give me more tips if you can.

>>110057819
Explain how they don't.

>>110057854
>7Hz will have better quality
the >$200 you'll spend on Timeless 2 will give you an advantage but it's so small, barely noticeable and won't be "$200 more" sounding, if that makes sense. If you want to spend that much, just save up for a good hybrid, but if it's a competent planar you want that punches above its price anyway, PRX and T10/pro are the best places to start since a $200-300 planar won't be the upgrade you anticipate.

>>110055988
You did.

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>>110057918
Are you sure, but even then a bit better sound and better quality is worth it for me, since I plan to have them for very long time. I am also not much for fiddling with EQ and want to avoid that.
I don't know I have compared many as of now and read reviews, but of course I might be wrong, but here timeless 2 seems to be more exciting to get.

>>110057998
Know what? Go ahead and spend the couple hundred dollars lol. It will be a noticeable upgrade over Starfield, by far, I just don't know about it's reputation for longevity. Go for it

>>110058041
I will I am still comparing, but I will buy a pair in November maybe they will end up being a bit cheaper.
There should be sales during that time + black friday. They seem to be very lightweight also which I like since i wear IEMs longer times during PC sessions.

Yeah but starfield is DD so its a bit different also + more warmer sound, but it will be very fun to compare.

>>110058088
It also won't hurt to spend the $24 on aliexpress on a cheaper planer for shits and giggles. You can then really compare the true differences between the cheaper and more expensive planars and return it anyway, no hassle.

>>110058119
heh maybe but I don't think i wanna waste my time on that as of now.
I will tell how I feel once I acquire them ofc. I just got a FIIO Snowsky Melody and it should be good enough for almost IEMs.

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>>110045479
may not be exactly what you're after but i have a pair of Moondrop Old Fashioned and they do everything i need them to

>>110057589
How's it any different from every other PEQ software.

>>110058943
It's like Pro-Q but with more things. You can select preference bounds, targets, df compensation, AB + volume normalization, and they keep coming up with more vibe ideas.

https://eqpractice.pp.ua/en/jamesdsp-equalizer-measurements/
tl;dr android EQ is still a disaster, get root.

>>110059057
get a job and buy a q5k/5k+

>>110057866
They can't without sounding like an idiot lol

>>110059057
>tl;dr
tsdb: too short, didn't believe

>>110041687
imo if you want bluetooth with any iem, just get a receiver like the qudelix or a fiio receiver that you plug 3.5 or 4.4 cables into.

try to see if you can find one that has a low latency codec too for gaming (and for that you will likely need a dedicated bt dongle like from creative or sennheiser or fiio etc)

is there a bluetooth amp that supports lc3 yet?

>>110055445
Are all the Tanchjim filters usually the same then? I have some Tanchjim Darling filters, but not sure if that'd even work out since the nozzle should be narrower on the Darlings. Also, just for learning purposes, how did you come to the conclusion of 500 mesh?

>>110045839
>>110049251
>>110049456
Thanks niggers. I'll wait till 11.11 to get a good deal out of them. I'll mainly use it for comfy gaming and music ofc

get pos from japan, took em three weeks to ship it out
got it, test it, fucking right earpiece is just grgaggrgrggagrgagrggagrggagrggrggagr distorted garbage
tell em it's broken, they offer 10 dollar partial refund
fucken japs

>>110060701
Pretty much yes. Any of the filters that come with their IEMs are usually the same.
>Also, just for learning purposes, how did you come to the conclusion of 500 mesh?
Personal testing and measurements. There are some very minor differences (Tanchjim filters have ever so slightly more damping) but they will behave the same if accounting for eventual clogging.

>>110060938
and their porn is shit too

>>110060701
>>110061035
they are from same OEM. I think u can but them from lost of diy audio stores on aliexpress and taobao.

>>110057837
Who are you quoting?
>>110057866
They don't have the same features as a full featured desktop DAC.

>>110061381
>full featured desktop DAC
what defines that?

>>110061400
A variety of input and output options, depending on the user's needs.

>>110061501
how much variety? more than one output type? the inclusion of bt? be specific

>>110061501
A DAC is defined by having a digital input and analog output, which dongles have. What you personally think qualifies as input or output doesn't matter because you're wrong.

>>110061612
>how much variety?
Depending on the user's needs, as I already said.
>>110061706
We were talking about the difference between desktop and portable DACs. Don't include yourself in conversations if your English skills aren't at a conversational level.

>>110061732
>We were talking about the difference between desktop and portable DACs.
There's no difference.

>>110061732
>Depending on the user's needs, as I already said.
So if your need is to connect an IEM to a desktop then apple dongle is a desktop DAC, glad we agree on that.

>>110061747
>apple dongle is a desktop DAC
NTAsshole, but that wouldn't qualify because it doesn't cover all the bases for all IEMs.

>>110061797
Name 1 IEM that it doesn't cover.

>>110061807
Apple dongle? Any IEM with low sensitivity and low impedance will be strained. How is that even debatable?

>>110061819
Name 1.

>>110061822
PR2. Even then you wouldn't care though but there's one anyway.
It's more effective to explain specifically why you're wrong than naming an IEM that an $8 dongle won't fully power.
Somehow that doesn't make sense to you. And don't mention "just turn up the volume". That's not the point.

>>110061822
>ANY IEM with low sensitivity and low impedance
That's plenty of models. It's not about specific IEMs, it's about power.

>>110061838
94dB/mW, apple dongle drives it to 112dB. Try again.
>>110061849
Name 1.

>>110061738
There is, and you're a retard and can stop posting if you're gonna act obtuse. If you're genuinely this stupid, I can walk you through the differences like you're a child, but I doubt you actually want to learn.
>>110061747
No, an apple dongle is a portable DAC. Pay attention, and work on your reading comprehension. We started at "they double as a desktop amp", which they don't. You can compromise and use them on a desktop system, but they don't double as a desktop DAC.

>>110061797
If the definition is "must drive ALL IEMs" then there are no desktop DACs, since estat and last generation MEMS exist.

>>110061885
>No, an apple dongle is a portable DAC
By the definition you gave apple dongle is a desktop DAC.

>>110061894
Well I gave you an example, to lead into a discussion about the differences if necessary. That's not an extensive definition, and you should be intelligent enough to see why.

>>110061885
>I can walk you through the differences
You can't.
>>110061914
You didn't.

>>110061879
You're not understanding.
>"Getting to the desired volume"
Isn't the main issue. A dongle without physical volume control+low output power doesn't suffice because you're affecting dynamic range and resolution of the audio negatively by relying on source volume control alone.
You were told to not bring up "just raise volume" and you did it anyway as if volume alone explains away everything.
You still asked, "name 1" IEM when the point is about requirements, that different IEMs have. It's on you

>acts all smug with no argument
>finally tries having an argument
>it's completely retarded and self-defeating
What is this mental illness called?

>>110061925
Well concession accepted then, if you don't wanna have a discussion.

>>110061933
The main issue is you can't name an IEM that apple dongle can't handle.

>>110061941
You are really are trolling at this point. We accept your concession

>>110061939
> if you don't wanna have a discussion.
Work on your reading comprehension. I want a discussion, you're just incapable of it.

>>110061947
See, that's the issue right here. You're physically incapable of a discussion.

>>110061941
Binary dynaquattro works on my amp with same volume as 300ohm over ears or 100mm planar. Doubt that eu apple dongle can provide that much power but never tried apple dongle

>>110061954
You. Are. Trolling.
You were just told why an apple dongle can't double as a desktop amp for IEMs.
You were given an example of an IEM it can't handle, just as you asked.
You. Are done.

>>110061948
Well first you have to acknowledge that you're illiterate and failed to understand that your claim of my definition applying to an apple dongle is false, because I specifically used the word variety, which would imply multiple inputs and outputs, something the apple dongle doesn't have. After you acknowledge your failure there, we can continue to defining the properties of a desktop and portable DACs, and why a portable one, an apple dongle or a snowsky especially, isn't a replacement for a desktop DAC.

>>110061954
>physically
Define physically. We're physically typing, so apparently you're wrong.

>>110061962
Apple dongle drives it to 111dB, are we deadass?
>>110061964
>You were just told why an apple dongle can't double as a desktop amp for IEMs.
Where.
>You were given an example of an IEM it can't handle, just as you asked.
Where.

>>110061970
Physically as in physically typing. You're typing something alright, just not an argument.

>moving goalposts
>defending made-up definitions
>"you don't know how to have a discussion"
Exactly the overplayed hand foxzo utilizes. She must be bored.

>>110061981
I accept your concession.

>>110061968
If the user only needs 1 input and 1 output then by your definition there's no desktop DAC for him whatsoever.

>Apple dongle
>Covers all IEM bases
kek

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>>110061997
*all IEMs and most headphones

>>110062001
>"Crinacle said so"
Opinion discarded.

>>110061990
Thanks for illustrating you're incapable of a discussion.

>>110061991
My definition includes variety. If the user doesn't need variety, he doesn't need a desktop DAC, and can use a portable one on his desktop system, and as I've already said, illiterate obtuse child, you can do that, but it doesn't mean a portable DAC doubles down as a desktop one. If that were the case, it would imply a portable DAC would be able to replace a desktop one in all situations, and there wouldn't even be a need to differentiate them linguistically, by calling one portable, and one desktop.

>>110062016
>PR2
>15Ω impedance
>94 dB/mW
The obvious requirement is more voltage and current than a 32Ω dynamic driver earphone. You don't know what headroom is. We're done here.

>>110062036
You're extremely slow, I already calculated for you how loud apple dongle can drive it. Apple dongle doesn't output 1mW if you're wondering.

>>110062049
You're extremely ignorant.
>"Getting to the desired volume"
is not the issue. you just want to argue but you already lost, which makes this already hashed out topic, over with. You don't even own a planar. I own two. I own an apple dongle and a dongle way more capable and the differences are all audible. You literally have no idea what the fuck you're talking about

You guys are not even factoring in the yuropeen apple dongle having less power.

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This is who we're arguing with..

>>110062073
>it was real in mind
So it's come to this huh.

>>110062073
>>110062086
>You don't even own a planar
>posts a pic with a planar
Stop hurting yourself, retard.

>>110062081
True. There are countless complaints on that particular one about "not having enough power"

>>110062086
Damn, retards that use portable DACs on a desktop system are dirty brown furries with mold on their feet? That's crazy.

>>110062095
>planar IEM**
specific enough for you, retard?

>>110062095
You don't power those headphones with an apple dongle.

You literally have no argument lmfaoo

>>110062109
Also wrong. Post the isine photo to finish yourself off.

>>110062098
The problem is on android, which doesn't have hardware volume control so it's stuck at like 50%. On PC is fine. The hardware difference between US and EU dongles is 6dB which still drives those "low sensitivity" IEMs to 100+dB.

>>110062121
Post it yourself. You really hate life, don't you?

>>110062034
>>110061991
He ran away. He lost. His concession was accepted.

>>110062087
>it was real in mind
typing so fast, we're skipping whole ass words? lol

>>110062134
If you define a desktop DAC as having a variety of IO then it's completely reasonable, why would I argue that. It's defining them by power that's retarded. You're aware it's not the DAC that is providing power, right?

>>110032510
Thoughts on FiiO? I want tl get the M21 for my father and the snowsky ECHO (not the mini) for personal use. I'd be happy if someone here shared his experience with the brand.

>>110062149
You can define qudelix as a desktop DAC then by there's no point.

>>110062149
I didn't define them by power, but power is also an implication, considering a desktop DAC has the design opportunity to reach higher power outputs compared to a portable DAC, yes. See, you're learning now.