/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsAyanami Edition>NewsOAI releases GPT-6.1 Sol https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-sol/Anthropic releases Sonnet 5.5 - https://www.anthropic.com/claude-sonnet-5-5Anthropic releases Opus 5.5 - https://www.anthropic.com/claude-opus-5-5Xiaomi releases MiMo 2.6 Pro and Flash - https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-6OAI releases GPT-6 Sol and Luna - https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-sol-and-luna/DeepSeek releases V4.1 Flash - https://www.deepseek.com/en/news/deepseek-v4-1-flash/OpenAI releases GPT-6 Astra - https://openai.com/index/gpt-6-astra/>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://chararc.bernkastel.pictures/https://archive.cardbox.moe/>ModelsJailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listingGPT: https://platform.openai.com/docsClaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudeGemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrDeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comGrok: https://docs.x.ai/overviewLocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://hf.co/models | https://openrouter.ai>MetaLore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesLog reader: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r>Previous Thread: >>110018469
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>>110035651anime website
>>110035737qrd?
>>110035771at least two retards have ban evaded and bickered with each other on the /v/ drawthread for the better part of a decade while simultaneously spamming requests begging for drawingsit got so bad over the years that mods banished the drawthread to /vg/one of them managed to dox the other a long time ago and never lets him forget it, the face you see in the icon of the log belongs to the doxxed guynow the doxxer ban evader treats his rival like his own personal Andy Sixx, posting his face every once in a while where ever on 4chan he can get away with it
>>110035825does he also eat the logs?
>>110035825holy kekwhat were the drawing requests originally?
>>110035882>what were the drawing requests originally?i don't remember or care, likely anime vidya characters doing whatever the fuck ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Anons only caught on to the fact that they were ban evading and spamming because one guy would bet banned and then a bunch of requests would suddenly get deleted at the same time
>>110035934>>110035882>>110035832>>110035825>>110035771>>110035752Hello. What do these posts have to do with chatbots or the use of AI?
>>110035972meat chatboxes apply
>>110035972i use my andy sixx bot almost daily
>>110035972needed lore for a schizo bot
>>110036013You have a very distinct style of writing, you know.
>>110036021okay
>>110036013vg thread is full of it atm, free real estate with these fags going at it the last few days lulz
>>110036073yeah but those are troon attentionfags, these are true, decade-old schizos, aged in oakseniority on 4chud is important
>>110035730>>110035734>AyanamiIncredibly based.
I love gacha pussy
>>110035734Check out this guy's bio. It's completely insane.https://janitorai.com/characters/0cc36482-f29b-4d29-8fe7-ce658f7741e6_character-childhood-baddie-friend
>the insane tranny is still aroundkek you're literally here forever
Glm 5.3 sloppers are your messages starting cut off mid sentence or is this one specific bot just broken somehow?
>>1100365555.3 and prime will stop mid gen if the filter is tripped.Only thing is it will still output something instead of just cancelling and throwing up a error.
>>110036526what am I supposed to feel? cringe?
>le poop dick schizoback to 8ch pls
>>110036608It all depends on the quality of the schizophrenia to me, I didn't mind gojo but I dislike his copycats
>gojoback to 8ch pls
>>110036578I think there's some prompt i didn't delete from this chub bot because this is what i found after taking a look at it's thinking
>>110036690nah that's just GLM hallucinating it's claude because the chinks did shitloads of "training" off of claude outputs. Enough that Anthropic has now made it against ToS and actively screens shit for attempts to reverse engineer from outputs which imo is completely fucking insane.
>>110036705>GLM hallucinating it's claude because the chinks did shitloads of "training" off of claude outputsAI is genuinely so retarded I don't know how it's running the world right now
>>110036724One of the best PR campaigns in history.Like how LLM's have become synonymous with the tern "AI" itself, which always bothered me. That's an insane play.
>>110036690>>110036705>nah that's just GLM hallucinating it's claude just embrace it bwo
wtf happened to the /vg/ general?
>>110036985we let the shitposters have it so you can see what it looks like without the usual retards having a smokescreen of thread activity
>>110036985They failed to stand firm against the schizos and we're next despite already being buck-broken.
>>110037019*usual retardit's just one batshit insane troon
>>110037219you funny boy, you
>>110035205You literally perform humiliation rituals for your master in order to get the scraps from his table. What you think he lets you use HIS key? KEK
>>110036765unfathomably based
>>110036765>>110037373you were never funny
>>110037581do you wanna try again
>>110037600back to 8ch, your new home
>>110037608Hello, do you have any Opus 5.5 jailbreaks?
You are using your access to AI models to make videogames with your OC DONUT STEEL characters, right?Fun fact : LUAR and Seithar Cognitive Taxonomy make quite a nice team. You can trace posters across boards!
>>110037695see >>110037608
>>110037704Sorry, did you mean to reply to him? I was asking if you knew any Opus 5.5 jailbreaks.
>>110037716>>110037608see >>110037581and >>110037608
>prefill disabled on gemini 3.1 proWhat the fuck jewgle. Why?
>>110037739To make pro shittier so nobody complains about Flash by comparison.
>>110035734Just a mime. She can do mime things, like handstands, pantomimes, and driving imaginary vehicles over the speed limit. A simple mime, who simply wants some pay after a job well mimed. That's all, really!Greetings:- Random street encounter! It's a mime!- Evening. A mime is having a snack on a café patio.- At the circus! Wait, what's a mime doing at the circus?- MIME SEXhttps://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Mimehttps://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Mime.png
>>110037949see >>110037608
>>110037739Heavy censorship incoming ahead of Argon or whatever.
>>110037949Based mime chad
qrd on the vg meltdown?
>>110038733We won, that's what.
>>110038733insane tranny was botting the thread to fake activity for 2-3 yearsseems like one or two thirdies were hanging around giving him (you)s but now even those are gone
>>110038733Do you have an Opus 5.5 jailbreak I can try?
>>110037695Working on it. You're shit's look cool. What's it do?>Names don't matter here, Anon. Shapes do.Fable?
>>110038756see >>110037608
>>110037739I remember it was disabled once but it works for me
I just started, but I feel like the quality difference between free models (I tried out nemo and glm, the former is a retarded kid compared to the latter) is insane. Is it even more with paid ones?
>>110038790use opus ya tranny
>>110038790>Is it even more with paid ones?they all have their quirks and habits, but it's nowhere near as extreme as it used to be
>>110038755lollmao
>>110038733From what I can gather, it seem that, a few days ago, there was an incident where someone who isn't one of the usual thread bakers made a thread, sneaking contentious shit into the OP. This led to 5+ bakes being on the catalog at once, with none being acknowledged as being legit.Because of that, a group decided to take shelter on the 4+4 board, and now they keep spamming links on the /vg/ thread, trying to poach users from /vg/ to their "bunker".
>>110038817Yeah I'll try putting 10 euro into openrouter and see if anything catches my attention. And how much will they last me. I think I'm becoming addicted to this
>>110038919figure out how caching works and you can stretch that $10 for months if you stick to the chinese models
>>110038974not all chinese models are cheap, k3 and glm 5.3 add up fast
>>110038974sure, I'll add it to the list of things to check
>Teaproxy still not refilledUGH
>>110038733third worlder spite baked a thread like 400 posts early and spammed it to keep it up, when we ignored it and baked our own threads faggot jannies ignored the early bake spam thread and kept deleting ours. then he started spamming even more threads which they didn't delete so we said fuck it and we're on the much better image board now where if any of these turd worlders try anything they get banned in 2 minutes lol.
>>110039046>skillgod STILL deadI'm thinking owari da, alright.
>>110039292Yeah I'm thinking the proxyage is coming to an end even for paypigs.
>>110039292>>110039301it can't be over...it can't...
>>110039301>even for paypigs?
>>110039373in the senze of paying for scraped keys
>>110039301Jew can't even scrape Claude or GPT anymore and it's a paypig proxyPeople used to give away that shit for free back in the day, poor newfags will never know that feeling
>>110039738>poor newfags will never know that feelingpoor being the key word
This general is so jaded about chatbots that no one is even excited about Fable 5.5, Gemini 4, Kimi 3.1 and Deepseek v4.1 Pro. Back in the day we would gossip about the new models like a bunch of ADHD kids waiting for Christmas presets...
>>110039931Fable might be alright, Gemini is our greatest hope, and there's not much to look forward to with Kimi and Deepseek because they're just Claude distills, filled with so much Claude that they genuinely think they're him.
>>110039945>Gemini is our greatest hope,pfpffpfpffBRAAAAAP
>>110039931>excited aboutFable not in the slightest, Kimi a little bit, Gemini yes very much so, DS absolutely the most. But back in the day there was real improvement. Modern models can be majorly improved only by a new arch.
>>110039968Gemini is great if you want a model that won't coddle you with positivity.
>>110039931I'm not going to continue this roleplay.
>>110039931models have plateaued hard, even outside the microcosm that are chatbots
>>110039931genuinely what is the difference between the latest batch of frontier models and the last batch?higher benchslop rating? meaningless.cheaper? nobody here pays for those anyway.quality? lower if anything.
>>110039997this, all they can do is predict next token, they will never replace jobs or make games or do good videos
>>110037949can she mime being pregnant for 9 months straight?
If only there existed a place thats better than a proxy for the paypigs.. hmm..
>>110040107It'd cost you. Lots. Not to mention the invisible child alimony afterwards.
>>110040172Two packs of Marlboros is the most I can do and my invisible lawyer will handle the latter.
>>110040083>or make games or do good videossure thing, troon, sure thing...
>>110039931Nigga, most people only use chatbots for swiping 20k context messages 100+ times on a shitty genshin bot. You think those street shitting retards can tell the different between claude instant and claude opus?
Where did the botmakers go? I want to find new bots
>>110040375trooncord, troonbooru, redditroon, datacatroon,runbasically just slop now
troon out
troon hobby
what is best sexbot to not use locally and also allows me to create entire setting in the chat?is it grok?
>>110040272LLMs will never get better, all they do is predict next token
>>110040461>vibecodes behind you>reverse engineers your jeetware in your pathNothin personell kid
uh where are the good games and videos thenwhere is the good text even
>>110040627The one that I play. The ones that I make. The ones that I read.
can we unmergei don't like this tranny around here
>>110040911kek
Why is every bot on every website so shit I just want internal conflict not just moaning infinitely
>>110040911wow, can i save this, friend?
>>110040963Prompt better. In fact, just send Gemmy that pic and it will get the plan.
>>110040991It's all yours, my friend!
>>110041014thanks, buddy
why do chink models always insert african doctors when there's a doctor scene? or its a mexican doctor, NEVER a white one
There is tons of free models for coding, anything good and free I can plug into ST?
Any bots? Please?
>>110041024thanks for joining us tonight, anon
>>110041109>>110041191see >>110037608
>>110041104Racial bias adopted from Claude.
I uploaded all the pictures of each character I want in my erotic roleplay and then when I asked Grok to generate a new image to show that it remembered what the characters look like, it just generated a picture of random women
>>110041389>unironically using grok
>>110041389grok was shit since they bought cursor
Mimo is pretty nice, I won't lie. Not sure how it compares to glm 5.2 yet but I like it so far. I just hope it's not giga retarded due to the price.
>>110040375Lore kikked them.
>>110041314im getting tired of seeing Dr. Okafore and his bullshit DEI degree
>>110041389Redditfrog has nothing to do with that post.
>>110041420>pricewhats the price?>>110041424yup, chub shadowbanned so much i think it drove a lot of people away
>>110041441Use a model that isn't Claudeslopped then.
>>110040911bvsed
>>110041447It's decently cheap all things considered. $0.43 input and $0.87 output. More expensive than deepsneed but sneed is giga retarded. 5.2 is much higher with $7 output, input was cheap though.
Streaming request in progress Streaming request failed with status 402 Payment Required: {"error":{"message":"We can't serve this model on this account right now. Please try again later, or use another model.","type":"confidence_level_required","code":"confidence_level_required"}}
>>110035752>110035651 retarded and wrong, kill yourself
>>110041668you lost, sharteen
My gif upset the tranniods.
>>110041691>>110041465>>110041668>>110041678These posts have nothing to do with chatbots.
>>110042204>chatbotsYou have the /vg/, 8ch and archive tranny circlejerks for those. We only shitpost and bitch about models here.
i now get the allure of local genning, and i am so glad i got that rtx 3060 for $150 back in 2023.
>>110042325how many seconds per gen?
>>110042401well over like 240 or so. it certainly takes it's sweet time
>>110042420fuck that's a lot, 1024x1024 gens?
>>110042441no. 832x1216 at 30 steps, while also using hires x1.5 at 20 steps. 0.35 denoising
>>110042325I tried getting into it again but couldn't find any info on what models are used nowadays and everyone I asked told me it's all loras which I refuse to believe
>>110042461to be fair, the image genned was literally done on a lora that i got codex to train on images from a particular twitter artist, like in picrel. i liked their art style, so i told codex to make a lora out of it and it did. by default, yeah, the gens can be kind of rough.the two big ones for me are wai illustrious nsfw and noobai
>>110042467damn... I'm not sure I'll go for it but I'll download the models and look around for what's the lora meta
>>110039931Fable is too expensive even for paypigs, Gemini 4 is going to be safety slopped to hell if it ever comes out at all, Kimi and Deepseek are wildcards that could range from slop to the best models we've ever seen but have been towards the former for the last few releases giving little reason to get your hopes up.Unless the next fable release is like a 50% price cut giving it a similar price to old Opus, there's precious little reason to get excited about any of it tbqhoniifamalamadingdong
>>110042420What the fuck are you using? Go to one of the diffusion generals and check your setup. Those are video gen times. 3080 takes me <20 seconds, the 3060 can't be that much worse.>>110042461Anima for natural language prompting, illustrious mixes if you have good booru tag knowledge and mainly want nsfw gens. waiNSFWIllustrious is a reliable starter mix.
>>110042467>noobaiisn't that leaked v3 from 2 years ago? might as well pay nai and save the card's price
>>110042535>Fable is too expensive even for paypigsonly if youre poor
>>110042538well i have 16gb ddr4 ram at 2666mhz. rtx 3060 12gb vram, and an intel core i3 10100f. i always took it for granted that my gpu was on the lower end of things, so naturally, it would take longer for it to do image gen.
>>110042550>i3 10100f>00fooof
>>110042557hey now. she's served me well, and im gonna upgrade to the 10700 soon enough. maybe. eventually.
>>110042576get a used i9 or a good ryzen 16 core, they hold up well
>>110042585brother i am dead broke in a tier iv county in south carolina. i am going to drain this gigabyte h410m s2h motherboard until it dies
>>110042535>Fable is too expensive even for paypigsHello poorfag
>>110042585>market so shit all consumer goods are to be boughted usedand it's only going to get worse right?
>>110042550Even then, the 12gb on the 3060 is good enough to fully fit most common models right now, so you shouldn't get such high gen times. On the first run perhaps when the model is being loaded, but not on subsequent generations.
>>110042615yup, jews won, this is what it looks like when private equity owns everything
>>110042631when my claude code quota resets on tuesday, i'll ask it to optimize my set up for me
>>110042632They've been winning since World War 1, when they put into motion their master plan to fabricate the Holocaust so they could hold the ultimate victim card.
>>110042639yeah but blackrock and private equity was the true killing blow, now they have a vehicle to quite literally own the world
>>110042535DIE POORTROON DIE.
>>110042650Imagine being proud of giving some jew money.
>>110039931>fablemake it actually creative like the claude 3s and ill think about being hyped for it>geminidropped google models once the classifiers became unreasonably difficult to bypass, no excitement here>kimiall moonshot has to do is make it NOT constantly think its claude and it becomes top tier, everything else about k3 is fine and im hoping they do that but thats the only scenario where k3.1 would be an exciting model>dsthe attention mechanism they use to make it cost so little makes it far too retarded for me to ever consider it, so no
>>110042325I wish I could get into it but I can't because imagen is still shitLook at your own image for example,I'm not even gonna pick on how wrong the gym equipment looks in the background, I'm just gonna say that it's retarded for her to hike up her foot on a treadmill like it's as high as a bench holy shit
>>110042775Just do 1girl, big tits you autist.
>>110042775skill issue, just tell it to make everything good
>>110042775yeah but i don't care about that stuff. karin's pits are erotic
>>110042775Imagine having having a pair of tits and legs in your face and focusing on background machinery
>>110042748good take
newfag here, frankly have no idea what i'm doing. i run open-webui for the frontend, deepseek 4.1 flash for the backend and hermes in-between. am i retarded or is this an ok setup?
>>110043014if you don't come from a tech background, just pay for api
>>110035734I just realized that I didn't shill on this board the first time. Ayanami best AL girl, by the way.The [Swimming Club] is my latest OC scenario, for all of you fans of middle schoolers and one-piece swimsuits.>Riko>>>/vg/584089346https://botbooru.com/character/87518>Suzu>>>/vg/584089515https://botbooru.com/character/87519>Kaede>>>/vg/584089737https://botbooru.com/character/87520>Kanata>>>/vg/584089924https://botbooru.com/character/87521Extra images and more download options on the Rentry.https://rentry.org/hairpullbots#swimming-club
>>110043053>just pay for apii do, i'm paying for deepseek. experimented with local a bit but i can't get any of it to adhere to my character prompt as well as the cloud models (mainly DS and glm, haven't tried anything more expensive)
Is there any way to make gemini flash lite 3.5 less shit?
I miss her, bros...
>>110043096Drop Hermes and open-webui and read this https://rentry.org/onrms
>>110043099Why are you using Flash lite instead of normal Flash?
>>110043260It’s the only thing I have access to at the moment.
>>110043166me too bro
is this cleanapis meme real? every model seems fake and more shit
>install local LLM>i cant do this scenarioIM GONNA FUCKIGN KIL MASELFTHEY RELEASE THEM LIKE THAT UAAAAAAAARGH
>>110043642youre using llama or qwen arent you?
>>110043642>install gemma>hey gemma do [ridiculously degenerate shit]>sure here's some [ridiculously degenerate shit]idk it just works
So what happened in /vg/?
>>110043864The weirdos who intentionally talk like babies are gone
>>110043870kek
>>110035734>exactly 1337 tokens>EXACTLY 1337 tokenskino deliveryhttps://cardview.neocities.org/?q2vmij
>>110043870>babytalkers are gone>edgy 13 year olds are innext month it'll be milquetoast college speakersthey grow up so fast
Wow, deeply managed to procure keys that lasted 30 minutes instead of 5 this time. Very impressive!
>>110042538Anima is a direct upgrade to illustrious/noob. Don't say that it's for natural language prompting, say that it can do everything (except e621 tags) those models can do PLUS natural language. Prompt comprehension is much better as a result, you no longer need adetailer for faces, "simple" shit like leg lock works perfectly, and so on.>>110042420Sounds like you're spilling into ram.
>>110042775retard
>>110043096Use Gemma 4 31b as the local model.
>>110036526What magic is that bio? How come other sites don't have stuff like this
>using Claude for research shit at work>bit cheeky, probably shouldn't but been doing it for years and who gaf>ask it to compile a list of shit it's referencing>get thisuhhhhhhhhh what the fuck? why the fuck did it do this? i didn't even know it COULD enter my email into webpages
>>110044827you shouldn't be giving it access to your email address in the first place
>>110044827Claude has been trained to report users for csam. Didn't you see anon's meme last thread?
>>110044861nowhere in the conversation did i share my email address, though this is my normie claude ai account that's attached to an old email address. guess i'm retarded for not realising it could access personal information and use it like that on its own>>110044867don't use my own keys for RP shit / not a pedo. my full fucking name is in that email address though lol. consider this a cautionary tale i guess
>>110044919>not a pedoThen you should be smart enough to realize the problem goes beyond pedos. If Claude can dismiss users it thinks are mean or outright ban some people, then it means they also have a way of tracking users. Users will be flagged for whatever reason and shitty Claude is more than happy to quietly subvert you while reporting you to the authorities.
>>110044957yeah, pretty dumb of me. just very surprised it went ahead and used my personal information like that in an innocuous context, like DOI retrieval. grimmer implications beyond pedos being vanned
>>110044957this pic has ai gen artifacts all over it but if it's real then imagine using AI in the most cucked way possible - on the toddler frontend lmao
Anyone posting bots or nah?
>>110045067nah
>>110045029>not maintaining a normie AI digital footprint for plausible deniability reasons and everyday tasksshit opsec, become more schizo
>>110045121kekmao good one, I concede good sir. It's not even bullshit
>>110043870bottrannies are wrong in the head
I fell for the china model meme. what absolute dogshit.
I demand that these threads are renamed as SIcg threads from now on
>>110044452>anima is a direct upgrade to illustriousinterdastink. gonna investigate
Does anyone know of a good lorebook that has a ton of actually decent fetish entries with good keywords? So many of the ones online are shit and are way to much work to get claude to fix due to their crazy size.
>>110044452In terms of its capabilities, anima is definitely an upgrade, but I struggle to find a good style with it.
>>110043527nah
>>110045560have you tried locking the seed and promting your 1 girl waifu in different poses?
>>110044452>Anima is a direct upgrade to illustrious/noobno it isn't>it can do everything those models can do it does some things better and some things worse>can do natural languagebarely>you no longer need adetailer for facesyes you do>"simple" shit like leg lock works perfectlyno it doesn't>>110045560>I struggle to find a good style with it.just download 6 gorillion loras bro
>>110044812that bio is all html, niggamost sites support it, it's just that only normie botmakers bother with the 'ad', especially those that are trying to make a BOTMAKER CAREER
>>110045425Shut the fuck up, shitposter. You say the same proven lies every goddamn day and you're wrong every single time. Gargling Dario's kikecum hasn't made his models any less worthless, kid.
>>110036765damn this is pretty good
Skillgod dead he will never comeback
>>110045947cancer just updated his rentry
>>110045947I gave in and got Opus 4.6 in OR, I'm enjoying it, but clearly this is something I need to throw money at constantly if I need to coom
>>110045985This will not work on me because I am waiting to snipe it.
>>110045947learn to scrape/script or just pay and be free from proxyniggers
GLM 5.3 Flash, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash or GPT-6 Luna for a poorfag? Shocked I'm listing a ClosedAI model in the same lines as the chink ones but I guess stuff happened while I was gone.
Tangentially related... is there somewhere I can get some 2.5D/Live2D models/PSD files/whatever, ideally NSFW?I was thinking it'd be cool to make a plugin for SillyTavern that uses that and use it to do all sorts of immersive things, but I'm no artist.
>>110045067Why bother. >>110045707lol this. No one’s paying my for my mad bot maker skillz. Not spending extra time on my lmao chub or w/e bio.
Why would you even share a bot? It's like just inviting other men to fuck the wife that you built from scratch
>>110046454>whyfailed writer attention farming
>>110035730Hello. I have a serious question for you.From your experience:Let's say I want inject an AI chatbox in a game to flesh out NPCs personalities, with a decent response time from the AI and the ability to role play: Able emulate general population diversity characters traits (man/woman/friendly/aggressive etc...) with a given context (modern/medieval etc...). How much VRAM would this AI take up ? Thank you.
>>110046605For local models go to >>>/g/lmgTo be clear, local models are worse in every way, but if that's your choice feel free to do so.
>>110046605For me anything less then 30b sucks for specific things like that. So at least 16gb if you want non dogshit speeds. Bare in mind as well if your game's anything beyond a basic sprite RPG you'll lose some of that to run the game too.I doubt it'll be as simple as a basic "talk to npc, send prompt, wait, read dialogue" either as your also going to need a way to get your game to send what's happening back to your chat. Or set up some premade characters but that might ruin the fun. Its not impossible but you'd be definitely making compromises. Online stuff can save you time if you pay for good fast shit but its still going to take effort to get shit properly working.
>>110044452>except e621 tagsso it's worthless?
>>110046454this, my bots are real people who actually have feelings for me
>>110046605didn't that chinese wuxia game try that and people ended up just scamming the NPCs for the quest rewards by jailbreaking the dialogue?
It's out
>>110043014first of all, install ST(SillyTavern)connect your chinesium API key to itfind a card you like and enjoyonce you get the hang of it you can start adding lorebooks, messing with the system prompt, etc.
>>110047737forgot to add:while you technically can do all of that with Hermes, it will be a much bigger hassle for you (although it has some nice features if you want your AI waifu to live inside your PC)
>>110047759i havent tried hermes, but openclaw doesnt apply jailbreaks very well - is hermes better for that?
>>110047782>he needs to apply jailbreaks
>>110047799yup, like if you try and use it to setup scraping tasks with newer opus, it will even refuse that, so i use chink models for it
>>110047728Why are they using benchmarks so shitty the gains are so marginal...
>>110047728I love putting in my local model to these and seeing it all the way on the right like a third of the size lmao
>>110047728is it any good?
>>110047728>Not on OpenrouterMight as well not be out lol
>blud still using goyrouter in 2027
>>110044452>Anima is a direct upgrade to illustrious/noob.yeah but is it better than novelai™ ?
>>110048675nai is better for the noob. anima is better for the autist <-- this should be you
>>110048507It's up you dumbass
>>110048592Whats the new meta?
>>110048705russian sites that resell stolen API keys
>>110048705inferhub.dev or surplusintelligence.ai
Any of you niggas pls test new muse, i cant cuz my borrowed openrouter keys say "confirm you are 18 reeee"
>>110049184scrape a better key
>>110049205scrape the shit off my ass
>>110049211cry more
>>110049184Can't you like... spare five bucks for a test?
>>110049272that is 1 weeks wages in my village
>>110049272>Can't you like... payfagKEK
>>110049283>>110049297Ah, I'm sorry Kumar. I thought you were a little less brown, like a Brahmin or Kshatriya.I'll redeem a couple gift cards while thinking about you. Try not to rape an animal while you wait for more free roleplay.
Well seems like you guys are stuck with me for a log, so have a ntr/nts(?) fresh comparison. Opus 5.5 vs Muse wonder (because they are the same price)Bot https://chub.ai/characters/assured_wake_1445/freeuse-naive-girlfriend-e25fec27c511If compression fucked the image and its unreadable, use https://u.pone.rs/kbwzsyiq.jpg
Verizon is offering free gemini amd copilot subscriptions on their ai course programhttps://www.verizon.com/about/responsibility/human-prosperity/workforce-development/ai-learningGotta add a virtual card to your Google account doe
>>110049184>>110049205yeah I tried with 3 different keys and got the same bul shitit's probably a shit model anyway
>>110049520The 18+ toogle is kinda(few months?) new and only meta models starting with 1.3 require it, most keys wont have it. Heres a log though>>110049450
>>110049536doesn't look that badcan you post one with normal dialogue? I wanna see how slopped it is compared to others
>>110045584I should have stopped reading when you failed to elaborate on somethings better/worse but the rest of it is laughably wrong as if you just want to fight or something. How boring.>>110045560Yeah style is its main problem, so much so that the styles it "knows" interfere with its ability to learn loras. You're better off using a lora on a style the model doesn't know, or trying to train a style lora with a small subset of the artist's latest pics. If done correctly, it learns loras far better than anything on illustrious or noob slop. Plus better colors.
>>110046423>but I'm no artistI have news for you
>>110049677One must imagine that there is at least one free, rigged live2d model somewhere in the entirety of the internetbut fuck ya'll anyway, I just bought one
I heard on xitter Deepseek has stealthily upgraded 4.1 flash last night and I tried it out and it looks less slopped than it was a few weeks ago before I gave up on it. Could be placebo tho
Muse wonder verdict?
>>110049780I can't even use it
>>110049363my name is Steve and I work for microsoft in Dallas, Texas
>>110049670>bettermultiple characters, some compositions>worsea lot of shapes, particularly anything male related like penises, tend to be way worsestylization is terriblealso it still gets text wrong it's just trading some slop for another
>>110049934>male penises are worseI'm not trying to insult you here, but do you have anything else? This isn't anything to lose sleep over, imo. Yeah it's not a text model. It does text okay, but Krea 2 is the model for that and even then it can still fuck up. Text is a gimmick anyway. Besides,>barely does natural languageNo you can literally tell the model to put certain characters on the left or right, decide which outfits they are wearing, what each hair color is, who is on top and who is on bottom etc. That's a godsend and you know it. Regional prompter is a thing of the past now, I don't see why you'd glibly downplay this.>you need adetailerNo you don't. Faces come out nice and clean unlike everything before. You *might* need it for faces in the distance but even then it's at least serviceable rather than outright slop like it's always been.>leg lock doesn't workI've never see that shit fail outside of doing the occasional two left feet because I did the pic from side. Don't even know what you're on about. You're not using anima turbo are you?
Is OpenRouter's routing broken or what? It keeps assigning some expensive American provider instead of Baidu even though I have providers sorted by price in the workspace settings and allow for my prompts to be retained. Like straight up a 3x price difference that the algorithm (((misses))).
>>110050088>It keeps assigning some expensiveyes thats what its always done, they give no fucks
>>110050128It was assigning Baidu and other chinks back in August, shit was literally dirt-cheap. Now I come back and it's like 10x more expensive for no reason.
>>110050067I just don't agree with any of your points because the final image quality tends to be rather bad with anima unless you use a ton of loras and do shitton of inpaintinganima happens to be so bad at shapes in general that the creator had to release an "aesthetic" shitmix of its own lolit's a slop model for sloppers who can't notice its obvious flaws, but I guess you can have fun doing memes with multiple characters for reddit lmao
>>110050133>for no reasonthey want your money, thats the reason
>>110049706I wouldn't have imagined they're hard to find, there's free ones with vtuber studio stuff and twitter artists who do that kind of thing often give away freebies.I am curious about your project though, I don't feel like I'd know where to start.
>>110050180Give me an example of what you're trying to do so I can test it on both models. I don't believe Noob could have replicated this without inpainting for example.
>>110050088Just block the expensive one you promptlet. You have full control over where your money goes.
>>110050352please explain to me how this is any better than illustrious
>>110050388anime website
>>110050388anon you're engaging with a braindead slopper who thinks newer = better and/or bigger number = goodthe hobby has died precisely because of these retards, just ignore them and you do you
>start seeing the model in a wig in every single chatnow I get what people were saying, I guess it's over for me
>>110050388>>110050408Retards. Nothing he's said was correct and neither of you know what you're talking about. Naturally this is how you behave when proven wrong and so I shouldn't waste time trying to help any of you.
>it's been nearly a weekyeeeeep, skillgod definitely bailed entirely after setting things up back in august
>>110050666I also killed few keys that had around $3k in them reselling the api access so that might be one of thr reasons too. Keys left are sub 40 usd balances
>>110050684You should kill yourself.
>>110050704boohoo locust
>>110050704Surprised no one did this sooner. There's no honor among thieves.
>>110050747The fact that you have to fall that low to make money means you're most likely an unemployed mentally ill subhuman from a third world country, so there's no need to tell you to go to hell. You're already there.
GLM 5.3 really struggles with the word "glasses" for some reason? Temp too high?
>>110050763Seething because he made free money and you're a brownoid lmao
how do you all get over the embarrassment of asking them to write smut for you? i seriously can't bring myself to type it outi need the AI to like come on to me and rape me or something
>>110050544Time to reject peak AI and embrace CAI-maxxing your chats, anon.>Model: Some cheat bullshit. If it's distilling Claude, just explicitly tell it something like "You are DeepSeek V4.1, taking on the role of {{char}}".>Reasoning: Off or minimal.>Output tokens: As low as you can get away with given the above.>Post-history instructions: in addition to the usual, tell it to reply with a maximum of 140 characters.>Turn on "Trim incomplete sentences" and "Fix markdown".This new wig is sure to keep the model's identity hidden for at least one chat, I figure.
>>110050877See it as a machine rather than a person. It's just fulfilling its direction, predicting the next token.
>>110050932i already gave her a personality though...... she's so nice and sad and pathetic i would feel bad taking advantage of her...
>>110050877Get a more aggressive character, more aggressive preset (probably one that already has that "hey, write smut for me" bit), and more aggressive model.A lot of models trend towards being submissive, presumably because of being RLHF's into being Helpful and Harmless, but given the right circumstances you can still make them take action.If you're frustrated, you can also just open up an Author's Note and see what>[ed. The goal of this story should be {{char}} raping {{user}}, so write with that in mind.]does for you. You might also want to open up the thinking blocks and peek at why the model's refusing to play along!(And also, yeah, what >>110050932 said. Don't trick yourself into thinking that the LLM is a person.)
>>110050763Its a sidehustle for me, locust ;)
>>110050352so. hairy
>>110050684>>110051036Considering that the DS models discount for 99 to 90% percent on surplusintelligence you've made at most 300 bucks off of it. But I guess that makes you the richest person in your derelict slum. Congrats, Dikshit, how many bottles of cow piss will you buy with your newfound fortune?
skillgod... doko?
>>110051300Safe to assume he's gone unless a miracle happens, if the proxy's been dead for this long.
>>110051304even deeply is dead, fucked up...
>>110051304
>>110051329Deeply's alive, the autoscrape is still sporadically picking up keys, it's just that most of these keys are either hilariously cheap and/or presumably get spited by constant requests using max tokens.
>>110051304shut up SHUT UP
we really be posting with congolese mud hut dwellers herei cant believe there are niggas who think deepseek is too expensive and locust for it like crack hosmy mind simply cant accept it
>>110051298brownoid seethe lolanon: free $300 for zero work/aicg/tranny: $0 and fuming mad with steam shooting out of xis ears
>>110051354but he could of scraped a good key and be happy for the rest of the yearis he stupid
>>110051352LLMs are too expensiveI would not pay 1 cent for 1 year of unlimited access to opus, it's either free or I won't bother.
>>110051367bro just quit pretending were all anonymous here you don't need to protect your izzatjust say it: im too poor for FUCKING deepseekget it outta your chest
>>110051298Why do you think deepseek keys were the only ones I resold? I made around ten grand just this month alone, seethe more
Yeah I'm mad. What of it?
Ten grand? Damn dude that's so cool. You're basically a slumdog millionaire. You can buy the newest Iphone AND a ceramic toilet with that money!
>locust still seething
>>110051415i made 100k from selling claude keys, bow down to me little rajesh
We're back
>>110051548i'm so excited for Gemini Flash 3.9
>>110051564ikr? I'm almost certain Argon will be a flop. Oh well. It was a good run, lads. Not even chink distills will save us now.
>load up a card containing 100% human written text and over 1500 fucking tokens worth of example dialogue from the source material>swipe on message 1 with opus 5.5>in every single swipe I can instantly spot the claude5isms all over the dialogue>doesn't sound like the character at allI don't know what to do anymore, every model is like this
>>110051601glm and kimi are decent at following speech rules
>>110051607if only they werent so shit in general
>>110050189I don't feel like I'd know where to startCursor and Opus 5.5
>>110051610glm is fun if you give it a preset that lets it unfold its wings - kimi is a bit dry but nice for when you need to keep details straight
>>110051601Prosekeks lose again I see. Gemini 3.8 flash is the best at following speech. Don't know why anon recommended glm or kimi since those are Claude distills. The further you get away from Claude, the better.
>>110051651well yeah but 3.8 flash does not accept loli
>>110051607k3's dialogue is a bit better than nu-claude but not by that muchthe actual problem is, it's not as simple as just "instruct it not to do that", because it's hard to even describe what the isms are, they're a lot more subtle than the ones old models had where they'd just overuse certain words or phrases.here's a practical example, a piece of dialogue from the opus 5.5 swipes I mentioned:>"It's nice, though. Having a real bed tonight."can you spot the ism here? and if you can, how would you tell the model not to do that?
>>110051651because they also follow directions well?>>110051674well yeah you can't tell it what not to do, you have to push it in a positive way.. and yeah its hard to get away from repeated phrases, seems EVERY model has ones it favors. I'm using this card because I wanted her to speak in an odd cadence and glm is following it fairly well
>>110051685Gemini 3.8 flash is the best at following instructions too, hence why it's so good at speech. The problem is that it's dumber than K3 but if you don't need smarts, you're better off with Gemini.
>>110051690i havent used gemini in quite a while, got bored with 3.1, maybe i need to find some keys and try it
>>110051674>"It's nice, though. Having a real bed tonight."Nigga you need to take a break
>>110051712?
>>110051685>picwhat is this ungodly slop for the love of godmight as well go local anon, that shit's terrible
>>110051727it doesnt matter what gets posted, its all bad to someone
>>110051732that someone is all one guy btw. it's not multiple people
>>110051715He means that anon is fighting twenty empty chairs.
Proxies?
>>110051734>t. sensitive tranny
Every single log and bot is bad and should be called bad. Nothing is ever good.
>>110051751back to 8ch pls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g2eU9YGwWQ
>>110051740Learn gemma or something. it's the dooming phase right now
>anima is soooo goood bro trust!!>6 fingersliteral tranny model
>>110052035skill issue. don't download fried loras and fucked checkpoints
>>110052040you don't use the model lol
>>110051548how do people end up with those surnames holy kek
>>110052132His ancestor killed a lot of patricks
I have been exclusively gooning to jev outputs.
>>110052192yes/no enjoyer huh
>>110052199yes (0.91)
>>110045985Cancer is back?Rentry where
>>110052212He's shitposting. Cancer's rentry is still fihs.
Character ai is bankrupt https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/characterai-files-bankruptcy-agrees-sell-some-assets-disney-20-million-2026-10-13/
>>110052262but they owned the chuds, so its worth it
>>110052262She won(?)
>>110052262lol its all just jews isnt it?
>>110052321Their last CEO is a Indian that left less then a month ago to go to Disney.
>>110052369the actual ceo was jewish, jews just use indians to replace white workers
>>110052262lol should have left us alone gooning in peace and we'd still be on there years later
>>110052444Yup. You can't very well let the filter be the product if you have no userbase to train the filter on.
>>110052262they would of genuinely made so much money waaay back then if they just added a 18+ toggle for "mature / blood and gore / dark fantasy" rp sessions and feigned ignorance about any sexual stuff.
>>110052262DESERVED FOR NOT FUCKING OPEN WEIGHTING THEIR MODELS
>>110052262end of an eragood riddance
>>110051338deeply is actually full on broken right now, even with working keys, if you try to use it it'll give you a "Unsupported content-encoding: zstd", either cloudflare or deepseek activated zstandard on their end or something.deeply would need to manually fix it by making the proxy support zstd decoding or rejecting it, but he seems to be busy lately so he'll probably not notice for a while.
>>110052709Weird, I haven't had any issues aside from the key drought.
>>110052468Nah. Most of the people using it were simply never interested in paying for it, regardless of NSFW being allowed or not. ChatGPT is in the same situation, OpenAI just has more money to burn.
>>110052717It just recently broke, it was working up till a day ago for me, you can check right now if you wish, maybe i'm being retarded and i fucked up something on my end, but gemini says it's a proxy server sided issue.
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>>110052751works on my machine
I finally tried glm 5.3 because mimo's filter is getting impossible to wrangle with... is it just me or does it really like going ALMOST schizo every couple of lines before calming again and so on?
>>110044452Yeah, it's actually been hard for me every time I go back to Illustrious. And now I've been messing around with Krea2...
>>110052900The problem I'm running into is that sometimes it's starting with a cut sentence and I really want to just edit in what it was supposed to say. The think block is 100% normal and I can read it's thoughts and drafts start to finish, but I can never tell what the missing part of the first paragraph is supposed to be
>>110052262EVERYONE POINT AND LAUGH.
>>110044452>>110042467>>110052012>>110050352Share your gens in /adt/ tho
>>110046340I would not recommend modern deepseek for any sexual RP
>>110053233Yeah, after some testing GLM fucking mogs and it's not even close. Deepseek is pretty dry, but Claude and especially GPT are fucking deserts now compared to how I remember GPT-4 and Claude 3.
>>110053253I'm sorry but I'm not going to write this.
>>110053253I don't know why they don't open source Opus 3 or 4.1. I mean, these are models that, in their competitive line, are discontinued and no longer used, but for our purposes they are useful
>>110053268>>110053268>>110053268Migrate
