im gonna be honest. im so slow i will be replaced by ai. ai can write 10k loc in a few minutes. if it makes a mistake, it can debug immediately. rewrites are cheap.
just from a speed factor i cant compete with ai.
doesnt help that its already trained on every library and millions of stack overflow questions and shit. im still having fun working on my own ai-free project but after doing some work and feeling good about it i am reminded that ai would have finished the entire thing and debugged it into perfection yesterday.

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>>110047310
cringe maid

>>110047335
I just take my meth and enjoy life. 20mg is enuff for me to hustle hard

>>110047310
who is the artist?

>>110047420
I have no idea. Someone else posted it and I saved it because it has four maids and this is 4maids.

can someone PLEASE explain what a 4maid is

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Generating ascii art for funsies.

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>>110047504
It is a n-maidnifold located between 3maids and 5maids. Hope I helped.

>>110047504
You're on 4maids right now.

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Looking at performance comparisons I don't see any reason to use anything other than JS.
Fast enough for every situation.
Portable.
Maintainable now thanks to TS.
Literally every other option looks like a poor choice.

>>110047396
you really shouldnt take hard drugs, anon
it ruins the body
and wears the mind out
>Inb4 pussy
ive done brown sugar and occasionally smoke rocks (when its someone else whos buying).
nobody's perfect. but it isnt a pretext to indulge in this shit

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RUST
MALLOC
FACTORIO

>>110047953
lulwat?

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>>110047525
i kekd

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Got blazing fast file transfers now

>>110048033
kino. also kudos for the clean work environment

>ymodem
youre emulating one?

>>110048054
No, I wrote the ymodem protocol in holyC and transfer the file over rs232. Just like god intended.
Gotta bump up to 1k block size. That should get it slightly faster

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>>110048051
game recognizes game
the rest can fuck off and pound sand

>>110048054
>>110048067
PS: on linux side it's just 'rb'
The bash script just sets the baud and so on for the tty

>>110048067
sure the least synchronization you'd have to do the faster its gonna go

>>110048075
>PS: on linux side it's just 'rb'
if im not mistaken, its buffered, so 'its just rb' but with an asterisk
didnt delve too deep into that, though

yall luddites lost

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>>110048141
>notice me senpai
i did. now ill ignore you

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>>110048141
You can't even imagine how much I have won.
Doing absolute useless crap on a dedicated templeOS computer that is 2m away from my normal desk is the absolute best thing I could've done.
It fuels me with joy and bliss. I should've done something similar years ago.
I can get so locked in again that I forget to eat. That really fucking rarely happens.
Thank you for reading my blog. I have to get back to work now

>>110048190
at least youre doing something
most vibeshitters are just larper fanbois exchanging marketing slogans

>>110048141
>you can't enjoy building model trains if there is a factory that makes fully assembled model trains
>did you hear me? I said your hobby has no point
>I can just buy a fully assembled train faster than you can build one
>stop having fun!

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>>110048141
>>110048190
Now just imagine the things that could happen when my PCBs arrive, I can extend my risc-v SoC, improve my risc-v assembler and then build a second fucking computer from templeOS.
Holy balls. That is nuts.
When I have time I have to build a floppy adapter board too and let my risc-v computer boot from floppy. Ya'll vibefags lost

>>110048190
>>110048220
oh
youre not vibeshitting
you just said to the other fag youve wonned

my bad, shouldnt have called you a vibeshitter
im slightly drunk for my defence

>>110048244
I vibeshitted one single thing: The tar archiver in holyC. But that's it. Everything else is hard work and it's fun.

>>110048233
vibeshitters lose either way
in the current state? you need solid skills to even be able to force the shatbots into producing valid shit
in a hypothetical future where llms actually produce good code?
vibeshitters are still useless bc ceos can prompt for slop
and people with actual skills will still produce better shit than some nobody with hopes dreams but not much else

>>110048264
im happy you find it fun
also: the reason why hobbyists absolutely have their place in dpt because you do whacky shit, but still develop craftsmanship nonetheless

i program bc i need fintech tools to make money
im very goal oriented in programming, and would prefer have people to write code for me
i still program myself because im not rich enough to hire people
actually, im not rich at all, i have to live like a poorfag or im gonna have to go back to wageslaving

>>110048289
where im getting at, is that goal oriented is complimentary to hobby-like
we have different constraints, and so we develop different techniques, approaches

dpt is where we can share our experience and both learn from eachother

>>110048289 cont
full disclosure:
i find programming- boring

i like debugging though. debugging is interesting
but writing the program is boring

i like theoretical thinking. i like high level abstractions of various processes
i like to figure out elegant implementations
but writing em? ugh. me no likey. for me its the boring part of programming

im 38 years old, the age probably plays a role in that

>im 38 years old, the age probably plays a role in that
i wasnt like this before
at 32 i had personal issues and i kinda lost the flame in the process of getting out of my hole. took a couple years, ngl
family issues hit hard, no matter how tough you think you are

I just write code and hope it does the thing I want.

>>110048515
keep working on your art and the code will do exactly what you intend it to

>>110048515
use ai

>>110048515
hard work always yields results.
these might be not the results you intended, because you pulled in a direction you had no idea about
but hard work always yields results.

the hardest part of "hard work" is consistency
unironically, maidos poster is a glowing example of determination, it is a majoritary component of the respect i have for him

>>110048536
>nuh use ai
we all do, stupid fucking mongrel human ad billboard openai bootlicker faggot

>>110048536
>>110048570
the big difference is:
do you use llms as subsitute for competency?
or do you use llms to learn faster

>>110048574
i use llms to learn ai

>>110048587
ok.
and what did you learn, then?
lets have a fucking laugh

>>110048598
>spoonfeed me
uhh no :D

>>110048601
>tactical retreat
post code to show youre not just a faggot fanboi

>>110048606
your first

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>>110048621
i did a gorilion times already
in fact
i hope some of you get nausea just from looking at it

>>110048635
>c slop
lol

>>110048640
>cslop that beats what the whole world is capable of producing
you have no idea of what youre saying, vibeshitter

youre worthless. im not trying to be insulting, its just what it is

>>110048667
rust is better

>>110048640
>>110048667
this was tutorial code btw
i accidentally beat all of academia because i just have a good programming sense

you dont
you rely on klodslop for which you pay because youre a cuck
das what

>>110048685
you dont know whit about rust either

why do you even try?
youve made yourself into being the designated clown of this thread

sup my maid sisters. I'm thinking of doing a text to speech from scratch. what do you think? is it an approachable project? have any of you maids tried it before?

C and all C-likes are bad. Literally none of them are good. C/C++/Rust are all garbage. Though Rust is the least garbage of the three.

>>110048719
not a maid here
but whatever youre doing for the first time is experience youre gaining

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>>110043430
Better. Also it renders my actual sections now.

>>110048734
i cant follow you there, i can just give you a (you)

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>>110048719
I think the hardest part would be getting the audio? I have never attempted this before. You should try to make a really primitive vocaloid!

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I'm tempted to use: use and pub, for my language just because they're shorter to type than import and public.

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>>110048289
Thx.
My heavy rewrite paid off. I just changed the starting header and block size in one place and now we get blazing fucking fast 10000 BPS transfer speeds.
Imagine how much fucking data you can transfer like that!!!! It's insane

>>110048877
thats the tail end of you worries

what about the rest?

>>110048889
PS: changed to 1k blocks now. Forgot to write that.
Point was that it was super simple to change that.

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>>110048889

>>110047525
Tochie is a weird name
>>110047420
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/109659319

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>>110048635
I still have no idea what all of these extra keywords are for

>>110048890
The rest of what?

>>110048926
inline is a hint to the compiler
__attribute__((always_inline)) actually makes sure the code gets inlined
its a gcc-only feature, if code marked as such cannot get inlined (bc its behind a pointer to function), it emits an error

the interesting part is that its not just inlined verbatim
its behind a jump
and for some reason i cannot fathom this form is faster than just inlining the procedures
much faster
something something lookup capabilities of the cpu, in the context of preemptive execution, and jumps being used a syntactical anchors.
or something to that effect.
i didnt go that deep, once i was beating academia, let alone my design parameters, i just went "meh, good enuf"

heres the full code btw
https://files.catbox.moe/dyyf3o.c

>>110048936
the language.
what about the underlying mechanisms?
the top level syntax is the tail end of your worries
its just the token that calls a certain prosneedure

>>110048926
>heres the full code btw
>https://files.catbox.moe/dyyf3o.c
if you find a way to improve upon it, im all ears
that wasnt a show of dominance, im just sharing my craftsmanship
input is most welcome

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>>110048877
Are you going to release Tabby when it completes?

>>110049074
Yes, that's my plan.

transition to a frameworkless SPA is moving along well. where's the damned /wdg/ anyway?

>>110049150
make one
unironically- /g/ tends to be very passive
we could have dealt with the vibeshitters just by reporting their inbred shit as spam, when outside of vcg

>>110049158 cont.
its not the first time this goes up btw
we dealt with the tranies
we dealt with the pedos
in this exact fucking way

jany isnt gonna nuke a post or a thread if the community doesnt let them know its undesirables

also: remember:
extremely low quality is a valid category for when the post doesnt truly qualify as spam or trolling
its also kinda nice to jany bc it tells em "i think this is shit. i trust your judgement in this matter"

>we dealt with the tranies
no hard feelings, but fukken trany porn on /g/ was kinda pushing things
literal porn is unacceptable on a blue board

would estrogen make me a better programmer ?

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>>110047504
an unmedicated ban evader schizo that's absolutely delusional and obsessed with anime maids keeps insisting that he and everyone else are anime maids, shitting up the thread with his off-topic horndog spam
he goes as far as MOSAD textbook-worthy psychological manipulation tactics to spread his grooming. beware of (including but not limited to) gaslighting, astroturfing, strawman arguments, moving goalposts, samefagging and bot spam to stink up the whole thread and chase posters away to then flood the remains of the thread with his garbage. he continues to hijack new threads by making a new thread early and spamming the link to it right on the bump limit of the previous thread, as if that ever was even a rule, to make his spam thread seem "legitimate"
unfortunately reporting the schizo's posts doesn't seem to work because either there's no mod, or he's a pajeet horndog that just jacks off to all the reported maid posts instead of enforcing rules

>>110049233
no. its just gonna fuck up your hormones
why would you want that?
why are you even talking about this on g?

>>110049158
careful. I've been banned by inciting people to report a troll in /dmp/ - but maybe that's because the troll is a janny himself.

>>110049253
>but maybe that's because the troll is a janny himself.
you get rid of bad jannies when they get a pile of unanswered reports

best effect? when they get their own posts reported
i do believe at least one of g's janies is a shartyhomo retard
because of the spam, and that the "bosnigger" should have gotten a permaban for evading
ottobahn for posting his inbred shit kinda deal

>>110049253
>>110049274 cont

spread the word btw
this is how we win
this is how we always wonned.

even janies do have a damocles sword over their heads
only admins matter
and admins want usage

if youre not sure, use "extremeely low quality"
youre not gonna get b& for false report when you pick taht category
you just fucking cant

and enough unanswered reports = new jany
you dont realize how much power we have

Im in my last year of my Software development degree and I still don't know shit. They basically only teached us web development. I was thinking of making a soundboard app for windows but I'm realizing I don't know shit and want to ask AI immediately.

>>110049320
do ask ai
the cutoff is if you use llms as a substitute for competency

ask the shatbot to generate a minimum woreking example
what makes the difference is that once you get the minimum example going
you then ask the shatbot to explain to you each line

and then de-facto you have learned the basics

>>110049320
Go follow a tutorial on making a Windows Forms application. They designed that shit to be easy. Qt is technically better but you need to know C++ which is a long learning process regardless of AI.

>>110049316
Thank you lowercase anon.
I've never seen this work but I will keep trying.

>>110049320
Don't develop for Windows. It is just cloud services ads and AI spyware larping as an OS. The people who recommend using it are just nostalgic for Windows 7/8/XP and none of those were good either, they just remind those people of their youths.

>>110049345
>but you need to know C++ which is a long learning process regardless of AI.
it is what it is
but also the fuck do you care about vibeshitter retards?
theyre fucking mongoloid genetic trash
yes, i know youre indian, i dont give a shit
if youre smart, youre smart. fuck the rest.
bose enstein shit. pillar of iron shit.
the mughals did a number on you
this is what it is. dont tell other people, but i consider you as a cousin

>>110049349
look, cousin
youre based
and thats what i had to say
fkn tranis are gonna be seething but were still cousins

>>110048989
>inline
>always_inline
so why use both? does the compiler really need "really really pretty pls inline"

>>110049407
yes, it does
gcc at least
kinda verbose but you can turn that into a macro
im a literalist though
i like my shit explicit

youre really touching upon personal preferences here
things get subjective beyond a certain point

me? i dont mind it
id rather type a dozen more chars each line then spend a month trying to figure out what my code was about

>>110049427
*than

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>>110049239
>the thread was hijacked if I personally don't like the OP image
>making a thread at the bump limit means you made it early
>maidposters are working for an israeli intelligence agency
>mfw

>>110049723
the israelishit is fabricated
but you also have ~20 posts seething at the fact the previous thread wasnt maid-coded

be fukken decent you retard
wyfs is wrong with you? were in polite society here
were fucking DPT
THE elite of /g/
THE people who actually code

>no, lets bring discord into this
faggot

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>>110049772
>discord
Maids don't use Discord.

>>110049723
>>110049772
this is why im anti maid btw
youre just fuckign incompetent
you just cant host a general

do fukken better
im not even inilmical towards you
just do fucking better
just do the bare minimum

>>110049819
imagine fucking thinking when i said discord it relates to the site

do better.

youre all for craftsmanship?
me too.
do better. the host thing goes both ways
and this thread is mosttly iffy

Bro's how do I make a popup menu in holyC?

>>110049863
hopefuly a maid can answer that
im the goal oriented guy
what i have to say is "nuh just youse sdl"

>>110049863
>>110049883
itqs like using a cannon to kill a mosquito
but also you do whatthefuckeveryouwant with sdl
you get coordinjates for mouse position, and a click event
i woudl do sdl.
but its probably overkill for what you want

lets see what the maids have to say

maaaaaaids
its your time to shine
show your craftsmanship

the floor is yours

if i sounded dominative, you should ignore it
i am annoyed, not dominative

when i say floor is youres, that means i step back and leave you the field to implement your solutions

i really would like to see dpt become actually about programming

and you know what? i wont even criticise your solutions whatsoever, even if i find flaws in em
i want you to take care in the process of refinement for a solution

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>>110049863
Use a pulldown menu? It is in the Demo folder. This is a guess. I haven't ported that part of TempleOS to MAIDS yet. I think MenuPush and MenuPop are what you are looking for.

>>110049976
>i want you to take care in the process of refinement for a solution
i want you to take ***part in teh process of a refinement of a solution
but also i can not care at all, i can chime in somewhere down the line

i want you to conjtribute
i want you to engage
i cant be the only one bearing dpt
esp you, and others know programming better then i do

>>110049984
>>110049883
>>110049904
Once you find the place it is actually super simple, just like every fucking thing in templeOS
https://github.com/cia-foundation/TempleOS/blob/archive/Adam/DolDoc/DocPopUp.HC#L40

public U8 *PopUpPickDir(U8 *dir=NULL)
{//File dir name chooser.  Uses $LK,"FileMgr",A="MN:FileMgr"$().

There are all sorts of other popups too
It's such an amazin OS. I love it

So I gotta implement 2: One for menu which then can choose ymodem send/recv and this then opens the file picker possibly.
Then I can build a real cute terminal App (TM)

>>110050013
its all that you need for an interface?
it makes sense why some of you anons hold temple os in such high esteeem

even though
>filemgr
sounds like a high lmevel interface

what if ytou wanted to, idk, create an interface to select a screen amongst many? (im not a terry-ist. i started posting on g when he stopped. i posted on x before that)

(x and pol)

>>110050025
afaik screen managing is not that easy, but there are tons of built in routines for common stuff. gn anyways
A video that comes to mind is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3eFHyryopQ

>>110050042
gn to you too anon
im checking the vidyo rn

>>110050042
btw
>tsoding is a templefag
baste

>>110050042
btw
>rotx
>rotz
>roty

its pretty explicit as things go
st. terry might have been a skitzo but he wasnt a fool

threed theme btw
https://youtu.be/xRlUn6GpxPQ?t=542
for no other reason that i like it
also im sure st.terry would have approved

>>110050634
st terry would have ran over maidtroons at night

>>110050667
imo theyre too autistic to even glow, but you know better
i started posting on g in 2020, way after the terry era

if i say terry would have approved, its bc the music is real

>>110048920
Well, that's what you get when you try to make puns with a retard's knowledge of Japanese. I tried to riff on my OC as a Tribbie-like 3 sprites of functional programming virtues. So it's the shared ト from the name and :
>ト純 for purity of evaluation
>ト知恵 for having ekmett build your ecosystem
>ト律 for the fancy types forcing you to state laws and keep to them
A real Jap would lmao at the attempt, I guess xD

i think

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>>110050711

>>110050744
i really do, though
esp when im drunk

im not saying i think smart things
i just say i tend to think. various things. sometimes wild things. sometimes crazy things
sometimes its even things i cannot put into words

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on another note, base zoomie
but ist also kinda cringe that people hold c like if it was a holy grail or something

i do c bc its easy, not bc its a legendary lang or something

yeah, you gotta pay attention. hurr durr how will i ever survive that?

>>110050759
certified slav thing to say, ngl

>>110050770
mission accomplished then
my ancestors must be proud-ish of me

>>110050769
C is a shitlang but unlike Assembly it has a portable malloc for when I just need a dynamically allocated tape of bytes.

>>110050792
>nuh shitlang
y the hate?
rust is the designated shitlang.
c is just the old perv papy who touches jailbait when he takes the subway
the jailbait doesnt mind btw

>>110050804
Rust is perfect. I can do whatever I want logically and use Rust analyzer to please the compiler. Unfortunately, Rust doesn't let you do the deep low level stuff without deviating from idiomatic Rust which is where I use C. C sucks other than byte access and it's a shame so many languages were corrupted by C's syntax.

>>110050847
>byte level access
unironically thats why i love the fuck out of c (no homo)
its mainly what i do so its my main lang
>it's a shame so many languages were corrupted by C's syntax.
i think php. or js. and i think your statement is retarded

but also im drunk so i might be retarded myself even though ill fight tooth and nails to prove otherwise.
or i wont bc im really drunk and quite sleepy

>>110050869
Nah, look at Python and Lua. A language can be good without all the C legacy cruft. Attempting to adhere to C syntax just results in more things getting bolted on leading to verbosity like Java and C++.

>>110050899
>Python as an example of good syntax
>when Haskell is right there
NGMI

>>110050909
>Haskell
>Good syntax
You mean GHC/Haskell

>>110050922
>GHC/Haskell
Well, you can write obtuse Haskell, sure, but at least in my experience does the whitespace-guided syntax way better than Python. And I guess that's a personal preference, but Python's insistence on English keywords makes it too regular to read, while Haskell breaks it up a bit with symbols But I'm kind of a believer in languages having a visual rhythm, I'm weird like that.

>>110050899
>begin
>lua, good
>end
lua is archaic

and using fucking indentation instea dof brackets like a normal person is a hipster thing to do
and this comes from a guy whos coded in python for several years

>>110050945
>instea dof brackets like a normal person is a hipster thing to do
And using brackets is a caveman thing to do, it was literally done to make parsers simpler when computers were slow as fuck. It's unnecessary cruft in the year of our Lord 2k26 when your phone is faster than all of 70s supercomputers combined.

>>110050945
Python is perfect for using indentation instead of brackets. Fuck it. Throw Haskell in there too. I'm not interested in both indenting and writing brackets if one of those two doesn't serve a purpose.

>>110050961
brackets are valid and heccin cute
whoever says otherwise is just misinformed and lacks taste

GNU/Haskell

>>110050974
Gnuskell

>>110050971
i was gonna harp on haskell too but it felt like python + lua is gonna become a shitstorm large enough already

>>110050971
>>110050987
>Cosmos
>no begin/end, or worse, bash if/elif (WUT)
>local by default
Programming languages have been solved.

>>110050972
They're redundant if you're already going to indent your blocks properly anyway. Thank fuck Python and Haskell filter idiots who don't.

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>>110050972
You're in luck, you can do both in Haskell!

Sorry about the clanker, CBA to write it myself at this hour ;' )

>>110051008
>Prolog died due to first AI winter
>Cosmos is written in Prolog just in time for the next AI winter
literal pottery

>>110051056
delete this

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>>110049407
Fun fact: you probably *want* no inlining.

Because compilers are even worse garbage than /dpt/ posters.

>>110051056
this is what they stole from you

>>110051080
left is better, thougheverbeit?

complex language features bring forth complex code
reject Rust, C++
embrace the simplicity of C

AI claimed Fabrice too, we're so fucking doomed

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>>110047658
TS makes people lazy and therefore they write slower code.

>>110051444
That is not always possible. C++ allows to pick a simpler subset of the language that contains everything one needs without having to use retarded features.

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>>110047310
I am having some fun with C.

int main() {
    int putchar(int);
    int h = 7;
    for (int s = 0, c = 0, t = 1; h >= 0; putchar(
        s ? --s, ' ' :
        c ? --c, '*' - 10 * (c & 1) :
        (--h, s = h, c = t, t += 2, '\n')
        ));
}

>>110051056
ai;dr

>>110051891
What would you even want to read there, it only shows you can use braces and semicolon in Haskell if you're a cnile. Or are you already too blind to see that, grandpa?

>>110051833
i ran this code and um my gpu fans just started spinning

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>>110050081
>st. terry might have been a skitzo but he wasnt a fool
yes.
All of the things might have not beet great or pretty, but what people underestimate is that he literally built everything.
For almost every koding section you can imagine he built something. He built all of it. And that is super fucking crazy.
It takes an incredible effort to make so many parts work together

dead thread
dead hobby
just give up

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>>110050025
>its all that you need for an interface?
Good morning, sirs.
Yes, that's all you need.
Yes, the file picker froze for a moment :^)

>>110052311
>>110048190

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Hmm, I guess I can live with it as a shitjit baseline. Let's see how much this starts degenerating with more complex code.

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>>110051444
No hash-maps?
No encapsulation?
No RAII?
No dynamic arrays?
No exceptions?
No bitches?

>>110053153
>hash-maps
write your own
>encapsulation
opaque pointers or the impl header trick
>RAII
who wants that?
>dynamic arrays
write your own, they're very simple
>exceptions
who wants that?
>bitches
yeah well...

>>110053173
Why the fuck would I want to write a hashtable from scratch for the umpteenth time??? Then you end up with abominations like PHP function names because one retard was to lazy to go to a library and read up on real hashing functions and used fucking strlen.

>>110053306
why would you keep writing it? write it once, use it forever

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Console.OutputEncoding = System.Text.Encoding.Unicode;
Console.WriteLine("Newfags can't triforce:");
Console.Write('\u00A0');
Console.Write('\u25B2');
Console.Write(System.Environment.NewLine);
Console.WriteLine("\u25B2 \u25B2");

>>110053309
>write it once, use it forever
If it is so easy, then why your answer is "write your own" instead of "use the libhashmap everybody and their dog already uses", hmmmm?

>>110053173
>who wants that?
write you're own*
FTFY

>>110053324
>Newfags can't triforce:
I don't even remember how to do it anymore.
t. oldfag

>>110053653
You probably do but they patched whatever method you used. Once in a while someone finds a new way to triforce and then that gets patched.

>>110053670
so basically only newfags will be able to triforce, because the oldfags are too lazy

>>110053653
I never knew how to triforce, and I still don't know how to now. I think the earliest forms were some kind of injection, and that's why they got patched, because they represented the benign part of a security issue.
>t. oldmaid

>>110053911
no, it was just the different space character. Was it 0x30? I can't remember.
Or space zerowidthspace space
something like that
That's like 2010 or somethin

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No time for calls. Gotta get back into the temple
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1791892321659444.mp4

Today we'll look more into the gui shit and build an App (tm)

>>110053937
The earliest triforces I saw were in 2005-2006. There also used to be Zalgoposting, which I think worked on a similar mechanism.

The linear passage of time is turning me into dust.

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field too long faggot site

https://pastebin.com/ezzQ88i1

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-containers/

Temporary containers cannot restore cookies easily that change daily (ip rollover or expiry).
And I needed a method to restore cookies against a new google torture method where they flag your searches always as bot. This can save, store and restore the bypass cookie and spin it back up in any container tab (they are single use).

>>110054582
Addendun: To receive a bypass cookie, solve the captcha once correctly and save it after your search is unblocked with the button.
The cookie is able to skip many subsequent checks if you type from URI bar to start a search in a new clean uninitialised container tab.
Due to cookies not being possible to be set before the first request goes out, it cannot be really set any other way. Unless I'd manually add it to the config of TemporaryContainers each time.
So this is a perfect middle ground that adds 1 click instead of solving a whole captcha over and over again each search.
Someone at google must really hate resist fingerprinting and otherwise cookieless users.

>>110053967
how are you finding it? what does a single program look like in holyc?

>>110054771
it's stupid, but fun.
It just looks like C, but different

>>110053653
noob!!

print("▲
▲▲")

27 year old Neet here what do I need to learn to use with AI? I want to make money

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Does /dpt/ have technical books anymore? What were your favs?

>>110054863
>I want to make money
So does every indian using AI for his scams. What makes you different? Even with AI you still need a project no one else has thought of and that provides some value. Best is you will be a wagie using it in the way your masters tell you.

>>110054863
<<<vcg>>/>/

>>110054863
>>/g/vcg/
there's literally nothing to learn. for most normies they can now code anything they want in english.

>>110054884
I'm not Indian that's already a plus

>>110054863
>install Claude Code
>/plugin install superpowers@claude-plugins-official
>???
>PROFIT!
You may also want to install some MCPs for your language (LSP support, docs), but at this point you can just ask the clanker to explain things to you. It's not like a year or so ago, where you actually had to know how to force the clanker to do roughly what you want. Knowing programming still helps to make it more manageable (if you know what property tests and mutation tests are, use those), but it's no longer a requirement to get going.

2027 will finally be the year 3/4 of us will be laid off tbdesu : X

>>110054949
Well that helps a lot to prompt it correctly:
https://github.com/aj-geddes/useful-ai-prompts/blob/main/prompts/supply-chain/supply-chain-excellence-director.md

Also I try to answer your previous post seriously now.

So why wasn't it one of (You) that discovered the method that allowed people to definitively prove that Dream's unedited manhunts are faked?

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>>110054863
Same but 31 years old and not Indian. What do I need to learn to actually know what the fuck am I doing?
Will learning Python and software engineering + AI save me?

>>110054882
Joy of Clojure was pretty good.

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>>110055043
Anon just prompt it correctly like here >>110054983 and be rich. good coders usually mere have access to better paid models and more tokens. it really is just how you *tell* AI what to do, and the model not being free shit.
All of these math problems solved ate up 100k to 1M USD, it's just a rich people flex on us.

>>110055043
If you want work? Lmao, nope. Ain't nobody be needing junior engineers soon. Well, that is until seniors start retiring and C-levels realise they were being dumbfucks not hiring juniors to skill up, because suddenly there's nobody left in the pipeline xD But by then it will be too late and either shit will collapse or we get IRL techpriests.

If you have an idea that'll make you mine and you vibe it yourself —maaaaybe?

>>110055092
But what if I wanna know what the AI shat out so I can modify and expand on it?
I already vibecoded a couple of silly simple things like an offline 4chan for myself, a program that scans for all connected devices on my local network and tests internet speed, a crime heatmap separated by categories, and a shitty short VN.
I wanna do bigger things but I don't know what the fuck I am doing.

>>110054983
>supply chain excellence
>no nix
fake and gay

>>110055116
Sorry, you just had to be there.

>>110055092
>>110055043
>>110054983
>>110054977
holy vibeshitter retards
>>>/vcg/

the optimal way to prompt is to feed the shatbot interfaces and psudocode
if anybody says something that deviates from the above they know shit from fuck and should be immediately called mentally handicapped

also this isnt a place to discuss vibeshittery. you got vcg for that
if we dont keep a separation of concerns were gonna invite all the inbred mongs from vcg down here

>>110055116
Bigger things usually implies some corpoware

>>110055116
>I wanna do bigger things but I don't know what the fuck I am doing.
lehrn 2 kode
yes, even in the age of shartbots

>>110055139
>Demoralizer both spewing nonsense when someone asks for advice
I wasn't talking about missing out on teenage love you stupid nigger

>>110054771
Ok got the files out of the machine. this is what holyC looks like:
https://pastebin.com/kmpH0N26

>>110055147
>the optimal way to prompt is to feed the shatbot interfaces and psudocode
Are you telling me somebody would just go use an LLM and then… like… think things through?

>>110055208
shocker, ikr
to the lurkers/whomever it might concern-
the brain is a force multiplier
youre gonna do a better job if youre knowledgeable, with llms, or not

lehrn 2 kode, even if you intend to use code gen

>>110055158
I mean, if you're in it for money like the other anon then sorry, that's the truth. You're not going to get a job out of it anymore.
If you only want to understand the code the slopmachine outputs, then it helps a little, sure, but a lot of things even SOTA models still get wrong are things you need years of experience to easily see. And even then, there's nothing really to "understand" in what an LLM outputs. There is no big coherent idea behind it, like there is in a human brain. Just the most likely shape answers to your questions take on the internet. The best way to get mileage out of LLMs is to have been coding for long enough to know what NOT to do and understand where and how put dams on the model's behaviour to get that.

So feel free to learn Python if that's something you enjoy. The returns on how well that helps you wrangle slopbots may be spotty for years.

>>110055246
Well, that's where I started out too. Hated the clanker hype because the fuck I need a thing that can't think for??? I can handle my own problems with thinking and when that's not enough, I need to ask someone who is smarter than me, not some fancy hyperparametric function. Then, sometime this year, models started to be competent enough that you could just give them a task, and they would implement it no worse than a junior. Faster than any junior. With less sleep or complaints than any junior. Sure, at least a junior learns with time to become a mid, while current-gen LLMs can't. But who cares, there are so many low-hanging tasks it makes little sense not to farm them out. And then, belatedly, you realise it's the humans who don't scale. Clanker PR, after clanker PR the will to actually understand the vacuous slop you're given in return dwindles and dwindles until, it turns out, you read none at all. Of course you add property tests, mutation tests, simulation tests, proofs even, so you can be more and more sure the clanker does something vaguely approaching your intent, but you can never be sure again, because there's just so much slop built on top of slop built on top of slop there's no shred of intent to be discerned behind all the braces and parens.

You are now here.

Well, collective you, I suppose. You'd probably say you're still one of the sane ones. But drop by drop, the poison will seep in, until the whole profession turns hollow and only a shape of prayer will remain. I had now come to understand techpriests.

>>110055416
kinda profound fink that was, ngl

im not a purist though. if i could id be abusing the fuck out of clankers
im already a massive llm user, even if i use it to learn, not generate code

thing is, i really do need elite code because im trying to fit something you'd need a server blade for, into a consumer machine
thats why i learned to produce such code
and thats why i look down at clankercode, too

its really a situation of necessity having brought me to a certain point from which i have a specific perspective

i even figured our a way to circumvent the clankers limitations, and a good deal of the costs
the pseudocode + interfaces thing

99.9% of the code in the world could be slopcode
ill still be doing my shit by hand because its just the constraints im working with

if others code sucks, its literally THEIR problem.
thats why im not a purist.
my code is good. others code is their own responsibility

thats why im not demoralized, or even demoralizable
idc about others. i care about my own craftsmanship, ONLY
and if/when clankers will become good enough, then ill be using one
but honestly i dont think llms will ever get there. its the wrong tech for that, for a couple reasons
liek: when was the last time you saw a fallthrough case statement?
an llm wont generate you one unprompted, because this shit is so rare that its not statistically significant

a middle ground is like i said, interfaces + pseudocode
also pseudocode can have varying degrees of abstraction, and the shatbot will deal with that just fine

Lads I'm in second year computer science and pointer syntax / use in C isn't fully clicking, anyone have any tips? I understand them theoretically, but can't wrap my head around the syntax for different use-cases
>>110048033
I'm new to /dpt/ so don't know if this a continued project, what am looking at?
Network file transfer to templeOS?

>>110055722
Open https://cdecl.org and start putting in examples until it clicks. There's really not much more to it than enough exposure IMO.

>>110055722
a pointer is a reference. thats it.
you can have a reference to a reference, too
or a reference to a reference to a reference... etc

what is it that isnt clicking, more precisely?

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The Linux text to speech software "festival" has an old and limited scheme interpreter built into it. It's pretty limited but it's enough that you can do stuff with it. So I turned a "text to speech" software into a "text to image" software.

>>110055722
If you think that syntax is your biggest problem you're just gonna be like the autistic scum of the Earth from the last thread.
What's REALLY important is code generation, and none of these autistic subhumans could EVER come up with a language that surpasses C.

And, just in case said autistic subhumans who deserve extinguishment the same way insects and mosquitoes do are reading this: >>110051070
>a.k.a. man do I wish there's a instruction-generating language out there

>>110055781
>still at it
repeptitive behaviour and fixations are an autistic trait

you are on the spectrum.

>>110055781
Rust already surpassed C.

>>110055722
>I'm new to /dpt/
cringe
>Network file transfer to templeOS?
no, God said no network.
It's rs232/uart transfer.
Transfering files via ymodem from and to templeOS.
I have the transfers almost perfect. Now I gotta build a harness around it to control it and a "server" side that has a simple terminal for browsing uploading and downloading files.
Here's the menu thing I wanna build: >>110052421
Have a terminal like minicom and then with some hotkeys start the ymodem transfers

>>110055857
>how to tell someone youre mentally händicapped without actually saying so
its a different usecase shartyhomo retard imbecilegroid

>>110055597
>thats why im not demoralized, or even demoralizable
I was already demoralised before LLMs, because that's how my life made me. If anything clankers help, because they let me overcome my executive dysfunction enough to at least attempt something — that's opposite of demoralisation, if anything. The poetic waxing is half trolling, half a statement where I think clankerisation of software leads us. I didn't like the clanker hype, because it was selling bullshit. But now that they can code more effectively than my broken ass, I see how easy it is to let it go and just nod along to the crinkle your brain folds straightening out. I happened to have ended up with a surplus of them, but I'm afraid that too will pass. And I'm afraid the average codejeet was even less fortunate in that department.

>interfaces + pseudocode
And how you will make sure the clanker actually follows that? Sure, interfaces part is easy, but how you will make sure the implementation reflects pseudocode? You will either have to read, which nobody at the scale clankers are being used nowadays will do, or give the pseudocode enough semantics, that it might as well be another programming language. Which I suppose is kind of analogous to where I'm going with Carol? Lawful composable abstractions are basically like making the code ever more pseudocode-like, while having a machine-checkable proof the pseudocode actually does what you want (instead of having to read everything or trust the clanker)?

>>110055781
>What's REALLY important is code generation, and none of these autistic subhumans could EVER come up with a language that surpasses C.
Ummm, FORTRAN is older than C, sweaty

>>110055738
thank you boss
>>110055746
understand that, just when to use what syntax really, I know:

int * p; // a pointer has been initialised, that can hold an integer value
*p // dereferences p, gives the value / int currently stored at pointer p
&x // the address of x

Still bad at using pointers in functions, just the syntax of what to pass, what to return, etc.
>>110055877
sick

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>>110055722
>I'm new to /dpt/
The tradition here is to post maids. It filters the unhelpful reddit users and edgyboy anti-social types.

>>110055900
unironically i approve of your use of clankers
if the choice is either sit on your ass and wait for death, and use clankers
use clankers.
ive been in dark places, i know what it is

>You will either have to read...
you are gonna have to indeed read the output. my method is a half-way between handcrafted code and full vibeslop
>nobody reads the code
fuck em.
that sounded like youre looking for an excuse

dont compare yourself to retards
unless you want to become a retard

>Which I suppose is kind of analogous to where I'm going with Carol?
if you pull this off, that could help

>>110055722
Write a load of stupid little programs that use pointers everywhere. If you want to have a reason to use loads of pointers, make a really simple programming language and write a shitty interpreter for it. In no time you'll have fucking SHIT pointers everywhere, and you'll have "char*", "char**", and even stuff like "struct item (*userFunction)(int argc, struct item **argv)", and it'll be all over everything in your code everywhere, pointers to pointers, pointers to functions, and every single thing you do would involve pointers everywhere. Eventually, you could even have a pointer to your pointer to your array of pointers, and still you'd be adding more pointers to that later on.

>>110055931
inciting the corrective rape of an avatar should be a bannable offence

>>110055915
>Still bad at using pointers in functions, just the syntax of what to pass, what to return, etc.
you shouldnt worry too much about this. its just a matter of experience
the difference between passing/returning values vs references becomes relevant only when youre into optimization

before that, its just a matter of whether you need to return multiple values or not / whether you modify a value in a parent scope

dont whip yourself over that, youre most likely not gonna be using c very much anyways
and if you do, you'll learn the finer details soon enough