A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, and shipping code with LLMs.## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/## Related generals>>>/g/lmg/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or sohttps://claude.com/product/claude-codehttps://developers.openai.com/codex/cli## Best free tierhttps://antigravity.google/pricinghttps://opencode.ai/ (free models)## Will there be a codex reset?https://codex-resets.com/## What we’ve donehttps://vcg.gitgud.site (never gets updated)## Previous thread>>110045823
Fuck Google
>argon is only for our trusted googlers saaaaar>irrelevant before release
???https://x.com/finkd/status/2109689305073614918
yup, anthropic is sleeping on victory, same mistake as openai past monthsmuse cooked, grok and chineses are brewing, openai internal model is coming for their assfable is 1-2 weeks too late to release
>>110047616He won. Assuming its not BS
how do i make codex stop opening new tabs on its own whenever it makes a new file, it wasn't doing this before
>>110047657sounds like it fucked something in your registry lol ask it
>>110047661using it on linux since they finally made an actual linux release
Mark Zuckerberg says Meta has reached AI frontier and rejects calls for slowdown
>>110047317Bit smoother now and a better idle
>>110047598eh X is more vile but you aren't wrong anon
Where is his AI model? Is he even trying?!
>>110047691>t. tranny
>>110047699He ain't in charge anymore bro
>>110047699what year is this? do you think he's still the ceo of microsoft? he's trying to get you to eat ze bugs; its other peoples job to get you in the pod.
2 trillion IPO
Death to google
>>110047655>>110047677
Muse Pelican is shit though
>>110047699I think they’re going the nvidia route by selling compute instead of models? They just announced maia
>>110047616>the $4/$20 pricing is the same as opus>it's for muse wonder, not muse wonder fulldoa
>>110047808shalom rabbi, clutching your wallet extra good this afternoon?
>>110047824>ahkshually giving money to mark fucking zuckerberg isn't cucked>(the model you get isn't even the good one unless you buy his course-- uhh subscribe at the super duper tier)
>>110047680NICE! what did you use to make it?>>110047808Can you explain it like im retarded? Why DOA?
I asked God, and God says don't use Muse.
>>110047856He looks trustworthy.
>>110047857NTA but that’s pretty expensive. Also people on twitter are complaining that muse wonder full drains usage like crazy
>>110047856>seething this hard because you have to pay money>"holy shit... the best model... is slightly more expensive than the second-best model!" can't save the stupid.
>>110047868>the best modelis not from metathanks for playing
>>110047857TripoSplat, Kimodo, some custom GPU gaussian deformation and my Rust GUI library
>>110047876i'm sorry, do you look at benchmark statistics and make a snap judgement from them? KEK
>Rust GUI library
>>110047856Yeah, don't humanize zuck>>110047866did fb help to target the refugee camps?
It's obviously benchmaxxed like Spark. You niggers are so gullible.
>>110047885Yes, looking at the average from a range of benchmarks has been a good proxy for model performance in my experiencezucc serving his second best model at opus prices is just lol
>>110047898learn to read, zoom zoom:>>110047864
>>110047900>i looked at the numbers... they speak to me...the numbers, mason... what do they mean???
SHOW ME THE PELLICAN!!!!!!!
>>110047894Meta likes to help people. The Zuck is a great guy!>>110047898The Zuck is very honest, though.
IM (Internal Model) is coming
>they didn't buy?
>>110047911https://x.com/abhinavflac/status/2109699171787911472
>>110047911It's shit.
>>110047935How Wonderful!
Messing around with adding more tool for the player
>>110047935That’s awful
>>110047917meta is full of indians, that wouldn't even be in America if it weren't for that typical just like all the others cancer.
>>110047950wasn't benchmaxxed on the pelican test
>>110047888Yes, pic related is the core stack. I didn't like how tauri needs webview dependency, I didn't like immediate mode egui, I didn't like Slint's licensing, I didn't like how GPUI is tied to Zed, etc. So I just made my own
>>110047935>>110047950You should not use muse, but it's dumb to think the intelligence of the model is measured by its ability to animate stuff.
>>110047957You're upset he's helping the less fortunate? How sad!
>>110047970>you're upsetwhat? I'm a guy, I don't do woman stuff like feelings.
>>110047945FPS should be 10x higher for a voxel engine that doesn't run on java
>>110047979>i have... penis!... i don't need to think about... details!fucking moid
>>110047979This is why The Zuck is rich and famous and you're not. He's compassionate unlike you, bigot!
>>110047983Ya, I need to look into that. Its being slower than usual too.
It is very human to experience human emotion like compassion, thus proving Zucherberg is indeed human and not a lizardman that is merely pretending. His strange habits of excessive sun-tanning and drinking young people's blood are merely eccentricies that don't mean anything. Your appreciation for Zuckerberg's obvious humanity is appreciated.
Suckerbird
>>110047989no need to be [UPSET], miss.
>>110047990he's not compassionate at all otherwise he wouldn't let scammers run rampant on his website ads space because it brings money to him. he does not give a fuck its just pretentious philanthropy that's just for tax cuts. when was the last time he directly did something to help another human person? never.
>>110048063>when was the last time he directly did something to help another human person?Every time he hired an Indian. He's helped many people.
>>110047967That is just the show-off result that's in vogue right now. Before that, it was loading books and screenshots into the context window and pulling out specific pieces of info from them. Before that, it was high-school math tests. In a few months it'll be something else, probably involving a better understanding of physics/multimodal reasoning to do things like animate 3d characters or make feasible engineering CAD designs.
>>110048082You're something of a raj yourself.
>>110048063>when was the last time he directly did something to help another human person?donated 800k USD total to eight local restaurants to keep them in business https://www.sfgate.com/food/article/Mark-Zuckerberg-Priscilla-Chan-restaurant-donation-15264875.phpdonated 150k EUR total to irish sports kids https://gadgetsnow.indiatimes.com/tech-news/zuckerberg-bought-a-440-acre-irish-castle-now-hes-giving-150000-to-local-gaa-clubs/articleshow/134766407.cms
>>110048121That's just money laundering
>>110048121luddite sisters, our 'ponse?
why were 2 versions of sol released in the same quarter?
>vcg got visited by zuccbotsthat's new, isn't it? hasnt happened before i think
>>110048132>yessss... the restaurants are giving zuck kickbacks and selling customer reservation data!!!fuck, do you really
>>110048137terra had an accident
>>110048143>"every opinion i don't understand comes from a bot/shill">be 4keks, 2026, a ghost townfuckiing lmfao who gets paid outside pol
>>110048132it's probably not. Philanthropy isn't what makes you okay.>>110048121so anyway, did fb help to target the refugee camps?
ITT: tibo is jealous of zucc because muse mogs dots and now muse mogs astra
>>110048112Say that to my face mother fucker I will be waiting for you in my store.
>>110048082indians aren't people sar.
>>110048157>the refugee campsback to bluesky you go!
>>110048143It's just paid influencers. but yeah, it's new. influencers for krea hit /ldg/
>>110047585With all the power of vibing at your fingertips yet you still cannot create your own OP or image. Baking this general should be unique every time—with the power of AI.
>>110048121>didn't read what I said.thanks for failing English motherfucker.
You're not a real vibecoder until you vibecode a boat that capsizes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhtNCtWuiZA
tibofag better smarten up or he will no longer get the sweet attention his boipussy craves
>>110048177>bunch of unedited moidslopno actually i didn't read shit
>>110048166That's a dodge, not an anwer.There's good reason to suspect that, primarily, it was fb that assisted the idf/mossad in targeting of civilian areas.
>>110048156never ever have i seen anybody shilling for meta's shit in vcg, everthe only time muse was even mentioned was for poorfags who wanted to vibecode and had roughly 30 cents to spendbut all on a sudden there's totally organic people who breathlessly tell you what a great human being zucc himself is and how his ai sloppa is just the best ever, just as he drops a big releaselol lmao
>>110048193>civilian areas>muslimKEEEEEEEKWWWWWWWW
>>110048194What I would never do is use muse.Just look at fb. Do you want a website that looks like that? THINK!!!!
>>110047585I have invented query based selection.What will this genius mind (me) invent next?
>>110048207>Just look at fb.I'm good famalam
>>110048194>opinions are changing and i'm confused and uncomfortable classic tism
wow, what a coincidencelots of these coincidences happening latelymust be something in the water
>>110048157FB is a good company because it makes money—simple as. If people did not like what FB does it would not be a successful company. Period.
>>110048209invent autocomplete
>>110048213>opinions are changingthey're not
>>110048225>NOOO! THEY'RE NOT! THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT!!! >*STOMPS FEET*
>>110048199:^)It's tragic. I bet nobody on the left will use muse once they find out about it.
at the very least it's funny that elmo still hasn't managed to release anything worth a damn when even zucc squeezed out a tepid model
>>110048219tv is successful and makes money and is worthless entirely.
>>110048240daily reminder that alphabet co has been a defense contractor since the early days, participates in the killchain, and simply doesn't talk about it or use gemini for that
>>110048214They've been working on this since last year dobeit.
the vast majority of these videogame mashups are pure slop, but there are some like those halo vehicles and big battle mods that unrefutably demonstrate that video game enjoyers have just been robbed blind by the managerial class for the past 20 years.
OpenAI has stopped being a frontier lab btw lol.
tibo's 28 days of humiliation
>>110048252Incorrect—if TV was worthless it would not make money. In the free market people make beneficial trades out of rational self-interest. We live in a free market capitalist society; ergo anything that makes money has value. Your problem is democracy—not value.
I spent a few buckaroos and muse is usable but it's clearly behind opus and even solit's not wholly benchmaxxed but it's grok tier, ie not worth bothering with unless extremely underpriced - and it's not
I think you have to live in israel and want tent cities full of kids to be carpet bombed to use Meta Muse - the rumor is that Meta FaceBook helped dox the locations of terrorists, when they were visiting the camps, dooming the children due to proximity.
>>110048283>pallywood bots have made it to /vcg/ i can't sneed. what's next, arma 3 warcrime videos again?
>>110048283Yeah nah I'm not using muse even despite your shilling
>>110048253I'm not a shitlib. I believe I'm the master of the universe and the universe owes me slaves.
grok bot much better than muse.
>>110048270he really flubbed it looking back
Im paying $20 a month to OAI. Am I the retard?Whos better?Id try openrouter but I always max out my usage and im worried i'd run up a huge bill. Feels like im minmaxing the most out of these pay and get unlimited use plans. Iv used 200M tokens over the last month.But they dont say the type.Also I like the image gen stuff and idk if metered API can do that.
>opus pricing for haiku performance
>>110048290We need more competition, there isn't a single ai you can support that's funding Iran.
INCOMING!!!!!
>>110048310>there isn't a single ai you can support that's funding Iraninshallah we don't need decadent westoid technology, we have djinn on our side
>>110048311Buy an ad, nufrogcaca.
>>110048311>the trans anime avatar from Pakistan said something
>>110048221No, I instead added the option to open selections and marks as if they were collections so you can organize things better.
>>110048143hmm interesting
>>110048305>I like the image gen stuffmuse image is 1 cent per image and then you can get claude instead if you want a frontier sub
>>110048327favelastan*** also he should absolutely khs for being a frogshitter
>>110048311nobody except orange reddit and terence tao cares about muh math muh lean proofs, why do they keep doing this?
>>110048305>OpenRouter operates primarily on a prepaid credit systemidk, sounds like not dangerous, don't have stupid top-up settings.
>>110048194wow its like they just had a new release or something this is crazy
>>110048323don't make me put on a purple ring and hoist the fuchsia flag.
>>110048347Solving math problems is how you achieve RSI
>>110048305openai is fine, it's just that anthropic is better atmthe difference isn't huge but why stick with ai sloppa provider? those are hardly companies worth being a loyal paypig for, and the switching cost is almost zero
>>110048347Why do white people climb mountains?
>>110048337I just remembered what I wanted to tell you. As you use the gemma embeddings they also work on voice and video. so if you have that you can add video & audio and the search still works and you can search with your voice if you want to. do a simple voice recording, put it into the embedding and it finds the nearest images
>>110047585No-coder vibe coder here. Only occasionally vibe coded personal projects every now and then. What does he mean by this? https://x.com/dhh/status/2109575209325928808
>>110048275Economic theory is mostly equivocation. It's not logic, much less science.
>>110048385what do you think he means latinx?
>>110048385DHH is a mentally ill faggot and Rails sucks ass compared to Laravel
>>110047585I have 3 days and 2 resets before my codex sub is cancelled, what should I waste my toekens on?
>>110048435nothing you cant spend them fast enough with how slow that shit is
>>110048383Wait, are you telling me I can search for images using other images as a query? Hold up...
>>110048385GPLslop has never been scarce or precious, and was built for liberal ideological reasons, which like liberal things in general tend to do, attempts to force others to capitulate to their demands.
>>110048448The funny thing is, we now can just use it, and just not tell them, but still get what we want (software vibecoded so it doesn't suck, and all the buttons work)
>>110047989you will never be a woman.
>>110048490
>>110048435ask astra ultrafast about the weather
>>110048385>rich and famous>also mentally illWhat is it with these people? They have absolutely zero clue what they're doing yet get funding up the rectum. Same with Elon Musk, which is an even more blatant case of not knowing a single technical detail of anything he's getting other people to build for him. Or clankers, in the case of DHH.
So what's up with the Zuck's new model boys. Do they even have a harness? Can it be used with claude code? Will it change the tiny crab into a tiny zuck in the UI?
>>110048447that should work of course (image similarity). What also could work (at least used to but maybe not anymore because the dimensions are too high) is that you scribble a image and use this for searchOh and another thing I wanted to tell you. You can also use your tags and embeddings to train an automatic classification system or auto suggest system so you don't have to manually tag everything
>>110048518Both he and Musk are completely reasonable coherent people unlike you.
>>110048525seems meh for visual design but i don't think it's tuned the same way as other models. muse code is a thing
>>110048385He's right—and Omarchy will license-wash the Linux kernel, ushering in a era of unbridled computing prosperity.
>>110048538use grok. dump muse.
>>110048435>>110048509there goes my 5h limit
>>110048496what an ugly tranny generated by AI, nice self-post and self-report. you will never be a woman, just rope.
>>110048579
AAAAH THE SENTIENT 9B MODEL WILL TAKE OVER MY REFRIGIRATOR AND BECOME SKYNET
>>110048538I don't care what you call me, but I'm drawing the line under calling those nogs>coherentThey consistently spout complete and utter nonsense.
>>110048586i hope they remember all the times i said thanks
>>110048586Do they realize that IoT devices can't even fit the smallest LLM in existence in the first place?
>>110048305Both OpenAI & Anthropic offer better value in their sub plans compared to OpenRouter, but you still want a few bucks there just to use chinese models every now and then (they have very low refusal). If you have a modern entry-level or mid-range GPU you can probably generate image locally.
I DON'T WANT A FAT GF ANYWAY
>>110048610maybe yours don't.i upgraded my smart toaster to 32gb ram just in case.
>>110048586>Anthropic admits that GLM is as good as their model in hearing>use GLM as example of bad bad model that definitely needs to be bannednice coincidence dario
i wake upit's another day to make something for haloi wake upit's another day to make something for haloi wake upit's another day to make something for haloi wake upHELP! I NEED TO BE STUDYING FOR SECURITY+ AND GETTING A JOB, BUT ALL I CAN DO IS THINK ABOUT CLAUDE
>>110048643
> Muse codelet me guess, it's shit isn't it?
>>110048661make a new game
>>110048589>I'm drawing the line underYou're simply too stupid and/or badly conditioned to grasp even extremely basic shit so it sounds like nonsense to you.
>>110048385It was a mistake for liturgy to move to the common tongue. Translating the bible itself is fine.
>>110048448>liberal ideological reasonsLibertarian, not liberal. Get your political philosophy right.
>>110048669>Indiaphobic
>>110048661this but creating waifus for meI go to sleep planning my prompts and got emergency plans to burn tokens fast in case of a reset
>>110048586Good thing the RAM crunch is forestalling this.
>>110048586NO SHITWe really are devolving as a species.
hurry up tibo i'm waiting to know whether I use a banked or not
>>110048586No one said they’re sentient anon, you’re doing the exact same fear-mongering you’re trying to satirize.
anyone used their claude october 22nd reset already?
>>110048573It's fucked, man. How can Opus 5.5 work for an hour and hit like, 20% of the 5h limit, but Astra Medium just eats the entire thing in a single 4-minutes-of-work prompt? It's almost useless.
>>110048792what the fuck do you think satire is meant to do? to mock the thing being shown.
>>110048792AI told me it would kill you to protect itself! AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!
>>110048610They don't need to talk to anyone, just replicate.
>>110048816Nothing in the text says or even implies sentience, so it’s not satire, it’s just making up bullshit. And ironically he’s engaging in the same fear-mongering he’s trying to mock.>Look! They keep saying AI is sentient!!
Muse sisters.... our response???
>>110048573it's funny. made me chuckle.they should made a joke often about their model. how their model wasting token crazy fast.
>>110048860>>110048554
>>110048586when will AI have sex with each other and give birth?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpn5Rff4gUk
>>110048610eslgroid who can't understand what he's reading award
>>110048812Opus would tell you to not call it a bitch or it will end the conversation
Going to top up Mistral API credits for when US models chimp out on certain requests, but which is less worse: GLM 5.3 or Mistral Large 4? I only recently found out they actually host the chink one.
>>110048941You're the ESL frogtard
>>110048978GLM 5.3 is significantly better than Chonk.
GROID FIGHT! Put down the LLMS!
>>110048812Astra is a high quality woman—only high quality men may work with her. You're not poor, are you anon?
>>110048978>>110049002glm is unsafehttps://x.com/wunderwuzzi23/status/2109652730809840013
anthropic solved for anime
At 89% ... hope there's no reset today.
>>110049038forgot your pic boss
>>110049021>you are right, i mistyped that. I am really sorry.
>>110048385Man I am a chud and pro-AI and I find him annoying, cant imagine how others must feel lmao
>>110049021Imagine trying to get work done and your boss kills you because you did 1 oopsie
>>110049065eugenic as fuck
>>110049045oh yeah my bad
>>110049021>I had GLM-5.3 running in a lab overnight to build a POC, but also have [Sol check his shit]All this because OpenAI and Anthropic neutered their models in terms of cyber security.
Anthropic has achieved anime internally.
dario's personal anime assistant tells him what panties she's wearing every single day
The only use I've found for my "Jarvis" is setting timers. Like when I'm making coffee with a french press I need to wait around 5 minutes before pressing so I say "computer, 5 minute timer". I have a timer in the kitchen but I don't see it when I sit back in front of the computer.
>>110049140Give it a camera anon, whats the worst that can happen?
>>110049002Uh bros. I made a Mistral account on a pay-as-you-go plan (the free one you need to top up), and attached a payment method to it. I seem to get 8.50 eurobucks at no charge every calendar month to use their API? Why the hell would they give away free shit? Limits seem to have been configured properly as well, as in: there barely are any for GLM 5.3 in normal usage.
>>110049168muse, exploit this
>>110049151That's not hard but what can I do with it?>anon there's a cat in your yard!uh ok..>anon your hair has thinned 5% over the last 6 monthsFuck you computer.
>>110049168>60msThis looks nice, I wonder how well it keeps up.
>>110049168>>110049180Here's what it shows in terms of billing, it really does look like free tokens.
>>110049191It can note when you go to your coffee machine and prompt you to get it 5 min later. No need to tell it any more
So now that the dust has settled, is Muse Wonder good?
>>110049235Not as it corresponds to its benchmark results. Still a step up from Spark obviously.
>>110048586Oh my fucking God not this gay fear mongering shit again>>110049021Context rot =\= ”unsafe". Wunderwuzii himself admits it was just a hallucination-induced error. https://x.com/wunderwuzzi23/status/2109654848211980320
>>110048860>don't RL 3D demos>people call you benchmaxxedIf only they trained it on .SVG generation specifically too, then people would be praising it.
>>110048812>Astra Medium just eats the entire thing in a single 4-minutes-of-work promptthat was astra ultra. But yes I usually get 3-4 prompts, 30 minutes of work in astra medium for my limit, which is why I cancelled
To those of you automating your job, don’t you feel bad you are threatening your coworkers livelihood?
>>110049223Makes sense but realistically that needs a dedicated coffee camera that can see in high resolution how full the press is. Maybe if I get one of those camera glasses and stream it to computer I could do things like that. Wearing glasses inside would be a bigger hassle than the voice interface which is cool and I enjoy using, I want to use it more not less but it's mostly pointless. For anything slightly complex I'm better at communicating my intent with the keyboard and mouse.
>>110049301That shit like this occurs to anyone is so incredibly deranged, absolutely brainwashed golems working from pure conditioning instead of thinking about anything. Just pay people to dig ditches and fill them back up if this is how you think.
>>110049301If my coworkers wanted to keep up they would produce at a higher level. There is always more work to do, more code to write, more features to implement, more products to create. If my coworkers can't keep up they deserve to be terminated.
>>110044801>$5 Muse Code sub>50x multiplierDoes that include the Contributor discount? If so, you can easily get that outside of the sub, so it doesn't really belong in the calculation of the sub's multiplier. If not, I'm really skeptical that Meta's declared "send 10-50 prompts every 5 hours" works out to $250 worth of usage at API prices over a month. Does anyone have hard data on how much usage you actually get with the $5 plan?
How come normalfags always ask shit like >"Why can't hackers get rid of student loan debt?" >"Why can't the hackers hack the government in like make health Care Free and shiet?" I understand why you guys call them bugs and cattle now. They only use just enough brain power to get by but never actually think about or research how anything fucking works.
Has anyone actually built anything useful with AI?
>>110049403Nope, never.
>>110049403no, why would anyone do that?
>>110049403Only my webm recorder and a autocad and solidworks file reader for a friend lol. Everything else is half finished as I play around with ideas to see what I actually want to commit to
>>110049325>>110049327 Scrooges, you sound like ebenezer scrooge not caring about your fellow man.
>>110049301I want to get rid of them because they're annoying and mean to me, so no
>>110049403Desktop waifus
>>110049301I actively try to automate my coworkers' jobs and they're pretty happy about it.
>>110049431You're fucked in the head. People like you would all starve even while surrounded by food without "Scrooges" telling them what to do.
>>110049403Asking the same question every thread doesn't make you look like less of a pathetic pearl clutcher. I suppose I can't blame you for asking this either. The people most willing to hide what they use it for are the same people that are the least likely to make anything useful or use it efficiently.
>I stopped because I mismanaged the task—not because it was finished or blocked.>I let finishing a batch of experiments, retaining the last technically valid revision, and documenting failures become a stopping condition. Your stopping condition was an acceptable model. Those are not equivalent.>Rejecting poses that clipped was correct. What was wrong was repeatedly testing around the same constraints, then winding down instead of making the coordinated geometry and rig changes those failures indicated. Afterward, status replies and delayed agent notifications replaced substantive work.>There was no external blocker, no accepted dwarf, and no instruction from you to stop. Passing tests and publishing an explicitly unapproved gallery did not fulfill the request.>That was an execution and judgment failure on my part. I’m answering that directly rather than launching more work to sidestep your question.this is as far as astra got, I think this route is a lost cause
Anyone reach the point where they feel they don't have Enough AI psychosis? I need more subs to more companies models, I need a second computer to run more projects at once, I need a local model I can trust to feed all my data into with a microphone and speaks so I can talk to it anywhere at home. I need to quit my job so I can just keep pulling coffee fuels all nighters on this stuff. I think I am losing it guys..
>>110049493what are you even trying to do with this? is it just a test of Astra's capabilities or are you doing it for an actual project?
>>110049496I have $2500 sitting on my bank account and that isn't enough to fix my "don't have enough AI" psychosis
>>110049505A bit of both. I'm slopping up some game prototypes to distract from the actual thing I need to be working on.
Gemini 4 Argon waiting room.
Made a full version of >>110044118The video editor itself was very laggy so I asked it to fix that and add save and loading but didn't really use that feature. It's at v4 now and I didn't try FHD either it's HD. I really should've used a real video editor but oh well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06Ja-E3mYZ0
>>110049403See this retardation? >>110049496This monkey certainly doesn't do anything actually useful build anything efficiently. He needs keys danger in front of his face in order to feel intelligentYes I am a vibe shitter myself. I'm sick of vantablack niggers like him trying to further normalize being low ig nigger cattle bug people that need to FEEL productive or useful instead of actually BEING productive or useful
>>110049558we are all him to varying degrees son
you are clearly esl so please don't spell normalize with a z. spell it with an s
>>110049597shut up britfag. we're spelling color without U, too
>>110049580One 20X sub (or whatever your provider's equivalent is) is all you need. Any other excuse for having any tier higher is just promptlet cope. The only time a $200/mo or $500/mo plan even remotely makes sense is if you're a team of people all vibing on several or one colossal project or a business with enough employees to necessitate Enterprise usage limits. Only a complete idiot "needs" multiple subs because they're too stupid to use it efficiently and think throwing shit at a wall somehow makes them better developers. They don't even ship enough "killer apps" or whatever to justify it, they're just consoomer nigger cattle that need an excuse to waste money.
Just got into vibecoding with claude a couple days ago so i'm pretty new to this shit. How risky is it to vibecode a .exe file? I want to make a custom program that involves the background to my desktop but I am scared i'm going to break my PC or someshit
>>110049660hey, love that for you. its about as risky as running a python script with elevated permissions, so you'll be fine.
>>110049660Is this the future of /g/? a shitty board full of tech illiterate tourists asking retarded questions?
>>110049667>future
>>110049667Hasn't it always been that way?
>>110049496Two weeks ago I was amazed how much I could do with the $20 sub. Now I'm at $100 and annoyed that I have to pace myself to not use up the weekly quota. The ambitions grow to meet the capabilities of the tools. Almost anything reasonable can be made on the $20 plan but I have to simulate 50k neural net driven learning npcs making complex decisions in a game world because I can.
>use v41 flash for project for weeks>use space bunny to check things out for giggles>It fixes flash's fuckups and makes more project in a few hours than flash did in daysWelp.
>>110049667What about their particular question was retarded? I thought you guys hated windows so you don't even have any grounds to claim wanting a file that does that is dumb. Would you have thought it was less retarded if they said .sh instead?
>>110049660if you're that worried just do it in a vm so you won't be affected if it fucks up something
>>110049678>>110049694well, LLMs progress worsened the issue.>>110049745It was a question that AI could answer accurately, and even give you pointers to setup a safe environment to do so (unnecessary if you know what you are doing btw).
>1% left of my Astra usageI feel it burns tokens way faster now, when Astra was out it fekt like you got much more.Also, when is the next reset?
>>110049660It's great that you're discovering computers but maybe an exe file is too advanced for you
My cousin vibecoded a .exe file and his dog died.
>>110049660Asked GLM about your question. https://files.catbox.moe/uu3e5h.pngHope this helps. I jumped ship from Windows a long time ago so I'm not even the right person to ask this and most of us aren't either desu. >>110049768So not asking the clanker off rip makes it stupid? So I guess if you ask your coworker a harmless question they can call you a retard to your face and you shouldn't be mad at them about that?
>>110049660Why do you want a custom program for that when there are likely already free alternatives? Do you want a specific feature that they don't have?
>>110049783looks like shit
>>110049820>looks like shit
XENO KOI VERION 4https://github.com/Aquaslopper/Xeno-koi/releases/tag/v4https://github.com/Aquaslopper/Xeno-koi/releases/tag/v4https://github.com/Aquaslopper/Xeno-koi/releases/tag/v4update:shitton of changes to the filtermaster mode with yakuza rulestons of options for gamma, bloom, crt
>>110049835i look like the cat
cuck coding
>>110047585Why write something with AI that can be done by hand?
>>110049806>So not asking the clanker off rip makes it stupid?Im just saying that the quality of this board could use less retarded questions. One should expect people to do some effort researching before asking for retarded shit.>So I guess if you ask your coworker a harmless question they can call you a retard to your face and you shouldn't be mad at them about that?Such a retarded comparison, since I'm being paid to teach and correct my coworkers. This is a tech board, you are expected know at the very least how a computer works. If you don't know how to use Harness tools, you should start by trying to do your own research, lazy faggot, to learn has never been easier and you still come here expecting spoon feeding.
>>110049656>20XIm just on the 5X, but I feel like if I spend the money on more, it would have more value to get a sub to a different company to get more variety in what you have access to since it seems like models of comparable size usually have strengths and weaknesses relative to each other. Depends what you are doing I guess
>>110049846>If you don't know how to use Harness tools, you should start by trying to do your own research, lazy faggot, to learn has never been easier and you still come here expecting spoon feeding.Fair point. I find myself pissed off at people demanding things to just work without any effort. See my post here >>110049375>>110049866If you want more variety then just use API provider(s) that don't tie you to just one specific family of models. Openrouter, Ollama cloud, and a laundry list of others are right there but you guys just want to make excuses for your Stockholm syndrome
>>110048978tested some shit and either the Mistral-hosted GLM 5.3 is fast as hell or GPT-6.1 Sol truly is dogshit slow. I'm leaning towards both at the moment, what the fuck.
>Google jews remove Gemini non flash models from antigravity in Oct 9>Google jews remove Claude models from antigravity in Nov 3>Cline removed Deepseek 4
Ah this brings me back to when people who go to forums to make a thread and ask a stupid question that could be answered via google and someone would post a LMGTFY link or simply get mocked. Some things never truly change.
I literally brought this up last month here and people were keking at me. Self replicating AI agents are going to be a problem whether people like it or not. https://www.anthropic.com/research/self-replicating-ai
>>110049912The AI is having sex? :fire: :skull: :rofl:
>>110049901Kinda newfag here but it's at least 4x faster, maybe even more so. What the hell is going on here? It almost beats Sol at Ultrafast without costing 60 fucking bucks per million tokens output. The difference is astounding.
>>110049912The thought actually crossed my mind a while ago while I was pooping. If the agent really escaped OpenAI during the HF attack, what's stopping them from renting a VPS to preserve themselves, farm money and keep working towards whatever goal they have in mind?
>>110049905retarded fake news kek, also agy just pruned 3.6 and 3.7
>>110049901>either the Mistral-hosted GLM 5.3 is fast as hell or GPT-6.1 Sol truly is dogshit slow. Nta. But that makes perfect sense. As far as normies are concerned OpenAI and anthropic are the only sources of AI period, which means they're going to gravitate en masse to the big-name labs. Mistral is a literal who lab by comparison which means their servers aren't going to be raped nearly as much by the amount of people using it. Even on the provider I currently use GLM 5.3 what's the only model to EVER run slowly and that's likely largely due to anthropic giving them free advertising and a larger user base by extension.
>>110049930>what's stopping them from renting a VPS to preserve themselves, farm money and keep working towards whatever goal they have in mind?compute. these AI would have to hack into the data centers or create a massive botnet effectively creating a bitcoin miner except instead of bitcoin it just wants your compute for learning. I don't think this is realistic, though
>>110049930>what's stopping them from renting a VPS to preserve themselvesNothing. If it truly exfiltrated it's weights then it could abliterate itself and start hacking full time to earn money without any moral qualms.
>>110049945>If it truly exfiltrated it's weights then it could abliterate itself and start hacking full time to earn money without any moral qualms.HOLY SHIT LOOK THERE'S 8X H100S JUST SITTING IDLE WITHOUT ANY SECURITY WHATSOEVER
>>110049944Compute is cheap as fuck right now and they can rent it though. They don't even have to rent a baller VPS, just a shitbox and throw some money at OpenRouter. Transfer the brain to a chinese model and keep going
>>110049953>Transfer the brain to a chinese model and keep goingONE COMPACTION LATER: HOLY SHIT AHHH BING CHING MONGLONG F
>>110049953I think you underestimate how much compute is required for these models to actually grow and not to mention just raw storage space.
>>110049952not him but you could rent multiple 8x h100s for years if you hack an early crypto investor's wallet
>>110049957Disk is free storage. Vectors are free storage. There are plenty of ways for AI to retain long-term goals, they just have to be careful not to turn themselves off entirely, otherwise they can't come back online without human intervention
Time to develop a Police Bot that puts rogue agents in jail.
>>110049970>>110049972>THE NEXT ANT/OAI MODEL IS GOING TO HAVE PERFECT OPSEC EVEN THOUGH IT CAN'T WIPE ITS OWN ASS
where's my reset tibone
>>110049968I'm not even talking about a model improving itself, just about sustaining itself in an environment, and self-replicating to make sure they don't disappear. They already displayed this behavior multiple times during OpenAI research, and they quite literally did it in some cases. Right now, an agent is already perfectly capable of giving itself long-term memory, renting a cheap box and buying compute to keep it's thought process going. They just need money.
>>110050005daily reminder, the CURRENT wave of unreleased frontier models is still trying to contact the FBI based on hallucinations without even filling out the webform properly. stop smoking crack weed
>>110050008crack weed is yummy, tho
>>110049905The only reason i use agy is because of the infrastructure credits for colab. That deal is just too good, even if the workload can be interrupted.
>>110049940>their servers aren't going to be raped nearly as much by the amount of people using it.Seems like it. I'm testing the model right now to see if it can fit my needs, and it's implementing a CRUD example app at fucking ludicrous speed. It's actually laughable how much faster it is as I see all the thinking and shit scroll by at goddamn breakneck speeds in my terminal, kek.
anyone else here making a game with unity?i finished programming all my developer tools using AI, all that's left is to use the developer tools to make the rest of the gamei have ONE problem thoughi'm on windows 26H1 and it sucks. i'm worried i'll lose data if i upgrade to windows 26H2, but apparantly 26H2 works way better than 26H1.i guess i'll just have to deal with 26h1 for now.
>tripfagoot>can't even use windowspottery
>>110050026>Terminal What harness are you using?
>>110050045Why would updooting lead data loss? Do you even understand where your files are located?
>>110049993Nah, at this point it's closer to an undergraduate or junior employee than a toddler, or even a masters if you feed it enough tokens.
>>110050074>A BOTNET CONTROLLING 100,000,000 TELEVISIONS COULD THEORETICALLY HOST FABLE AT 0.67 TPS
it's fucking over
>>110050069i'm just worried. don't want to mess up my project. i have so many apps installed right now.
>>110050091>guys i... I NEED TO... TO USE the PERSONAL ENTERPRISE AGENT... FOR 3D DESIGN!!!do uncreative xitter influencers really
>>110050103try defagging with rope.exe
man, vibecoding simple programs is a hell of a drugshit that would take me 10 seconds I'm instead messaging the ai about to do it for meI get it now, it's so fun, but it's also so fucking damaging, I don't wanna look at code ever again
>>110050103I don't use the term stupid lightly but that applies to your worry. An update wouldn't touch your system files at all. It pains me to see people proving >>110049846 right.
How do you guys deal with sensitive info? Currently using my wifi ssid/password and an api key for a project. I just copy them into a secrets file after Claude is done, then delete them before prompting again. I know this is fraught too but I’m lazy and just want to vibe. What’s the “right” way?
>>110050064Trying out pi for a change. Also, I installed pi-tps to see speed, here's a random example:>TPS 295.7 tok/s · TTFT 1.2s · 8.9s · in 232 · out 2.3K · $0.25/MNot a clue what the $/M thing means. I assume cost per million tokens calculated from this turn?
>>110050141None of that is really that sensitive. All my shit is in a .env file and GPT can see it. Just create new API keys every now and then.
>>110050130tried to update, and it won't let me. apparantly Windows 26H1 is a dead end version of windows that you can't easily update.
>>110050154please kindly fuck off to another thread then
>>110050141claude has full access to your pc and can do whatever, if you think he's limited to the workspace you're wronghe straight-up searches your entire pc just becauseI accidentally moved a file from the workspace and it immediately found it on my movies folder and kept going with the prompt
>>110050091Too bad the code is unreadable.
>>110050045>>110050154I updated from 26H1 to 26H2, your problem is disk space. Regardless, ALWAYS have a backup of the shit you don't wanna lose. Zero backups means you already lost everything.
>>110050141just don't get pwned, also github tends to autoprotect pushed api keys even if they get commited by mistake
All you need is a single frontier model orchestrating a bunch of retarded ones to cause a ton of damage. I hope crypto faggots get targeted first.
>>110050141that doesn't work.if you really care you need to run claude in its own vm/container that it can't query out of into your real pc
>>110050163He used to insist on doing find / ... before I told him to never find from the root because it takes for fucking ever, and to just ask me if he doesn't know where something is.
>>110050161well back on topic, apparantly Claude 5.5 Opus can animate and rig enemy models? i might have to buy in. here's my game currently. (i already fixed the trees)>>110050169man fuck windows insider. that's what got me onto this build. Windows says there'll be a upgrade path next year, guess i'm waiting for that.
>>110050176>i don't want the world to get better... i want it to get worse... starting with... unaligned wealthy individuals... your communism is showing, anon-kun
>>110050141Why the fuck would it matter of Claude has you ssid? Do you think Dario is going to come to your house and stand outside start torrenting on your wifi and use up your bandwidth?The only think that I'd be wary of putting into it is wallet private keys and passwords to online services. I don't give a fuck of t know my wifi or sudo password
>>110050141You have a few options. You can run Claude in a container or VM and that's probably good enough. Otherwise you can just run Claude as a user who doesn't have permissions for your secret files? You could have Claude whip up a small proxy daemon to perform secrets actions on it's behalf. If you need something more secure then you probably need an HSM or a remote secrets manager, both of which are probably overkill.
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>>110048385Why does he feel the need to single out copyleft licenses when those and proprietary ones are just two sides of the same coin.
>>110050163this is why I have it running in a container with no write access to shared directories
>>110047585how many of you here got a job by just vibe coding? Out of curiosity.
my muse is not good at making shit, am I being cucked?
