A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, and shipping code with LLMs.You use Git — right, anon?## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/## News (both past and future)- 2026-09-29 — OpenAI introduces a $500 plan with 25x weekly limits- 2026-09-29 — OpenAI releases GPT-6.1 Sol- 2026-09-28 — OpenAI reduces its $200 plan from 20x to 10x- 2026-09-22 — OpenAI releases GPT-6 Sol and Luna- 2026-09-22 — Anthropic releases Opus 5.5- 2026-09-22 — Anthropic increases subscription plans's 5-hour limits by 20%- 2026-09-14 — Anthropic reduces subscription plans's weekly limits by 17%- 2026-09-10 — OpenAI pauses new sign-ups for their $200 plan- 2026-09-04 — OpenAI releases GPT-6 Astra- 2026-09-01 — Anthropic releases Fable 5.1## Related generals>>>/g/lmg/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or sohttps://claude.com/product/claude-code — generally better currentlyhttps://developers.openai.com/codex/cli## Near-the-old-frontier models for codehttps://x.ai/cli — no 5h limit for only $30/month## Best free tierhttps://antigravity.google/pricing----## Promptinghttps://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overviewhttps://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model## Skillshttps://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-with-docs is a favoritehttps://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first — do less redundant bookkeeping## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agentshttps://osaurus.ai/https://pi.dev/https://opencode.ai/## Is our AIs unlearning?https://aistupidlevel.info/## Will there be a codex reset?https://codex-resets.com/## What we’ve donehttps://vcg.gitgud.site## Previous thread>>110057496
is this really the latest news?
I've discovered that fast mode is great. Now I ALWAYS use it when conversing.
>>110059800no, the OP is just lazy
op is a faggot - have sex with sam altman
What the hell is the sandbox feature in Zed Agent? It attempts to use Zed in WSL on Windows to do.... something. Who the fuck designed this?
vibefags are proof of man's fallen state.
Can supergrok heavy, cursor max or claude code max 20 do actual good graphics that won't be shit?I've decided I want to try a game like a generic 2d beat ';em up that shits out random enemies out of like a choice of 200 per round and I just try to kil lthem all
>>110059800noboth/all the thread bakers are crap at news
>>110059826I’ve been following https://www.datasecretslox.com/index.php/topic,16631.0.html and the pixel art needs a lot of cleanup work (way less if you use a special provider like https://www.pixellab.ai)
all that delay for this shit lol
"compilerfags are proof of man's fallen state."-snails in the 70s
github just had errors.:|Is github trash?
>>110059877my gitea on my pi is still up.
>>110059863i love how gorilla niggers avoid the benchmarks that put it near the top like they avoid changing the batteries in their smoke alarms
>>110059863>doesn’t even beat Grok>>110059877GitHub is creaking under the load of all the vibe coderstheir traffic is up like 13x since like a year agothey’re not trash — they’re just getting assloads of extra users that they’re struggling to keep up with
>>110059877github is being buried in slop.
>>110059901>>doesn’t even beat Grokit mogs grok, you simply believe gorilla niggers
but can your model do this?
>>110059863Grok 4.7 is better than 4.6 easily, worthless chart.
>>110059911this looks like devil may cry to me for some reason
>>110059907Grok 4.7 is very capable. Have you used it with diffusion?>>110059911I'm guessing you need anitgravity to use mcp with Argon?
>>110059911>Blender MCPthe nightmares of llms rendered in 3D space.
>>110059920>have you used it with diffusionhave you used a real model?
>>110059926Grok 4.7 is a genius at diffusion. It added NAG to Flux 2 dev.
>>110059822Just disable it
>>110059943can't relate, coomer. picrel, it's my workload.
>>110059863LMAO!!!
does such thing exist1. non local2. llm api endpoint3. no register/login required4. generous rate limit
>do a 15 minutes test for opus>checking the results, finds a bug>sorry anon, I'll have you do another 15 minute test, it's just 200 comparisons with 3 one-minute breaks in between
>>110059951It looks pretty unimportant.
>>110059960>multiprime jax-pallas tpu-v6e ultrametric benchmark kernel debugi rest my case, groktard.
>>110059863saar is too cocky...
>>110059973Yeah, that don't impress me much.What I like is pretty women. Pretty women are impressive, are you a pretty woman?
>>110059975Argon is way better than Flash 3.8, the latter being not-really-ai, because it constantly just starts a new discussion, or decides you said stuff you never said.
I'm old enough to remember when google was free and nobody ever heard of an indian using the Internet.
>>110059973How about rest in piss you prick
>>110060026MALD stands for mad + bald
yeah. bald.down there
>>110060030I'm BALLDO. It's a dildo on your balls.
>>110059973
I'm starting a new general on /vg/ about artificial intelligence gamedev>>>/vg/584399780
>>110060062
what will Google Gemini 4 Argon make?
Man what the fuck happened to GPT? Slow as shit, errors, dogshit usage compared to claude. Was Astra seriously their peak? I remember some anon saying that they rushed to release Astra, which is why everything is going to shit for them now.
>>110060142i dunno. 6.1 sol medium is still cooking for me. halo 4 modding
>>110060139update. It made a 2d instructional on how to repair 5 types of problems.I don't think Argon knows what a game is.
>>110060142Idk. Works fine for my project (airplay casting library). Sol 6.1 on high seems a good deal more token-efficient compared to Opus 5.5.
>>110060139>>110060158anyway, gonna try making it 3D.
>>110060158>derp webchat is going to work... just like chatgpt!!!you're disabled
>>110060142are you using git and making frequent commits and have good docs?
>>110059793
>>110060106
>>110060171What are you talking about? I have the $20 sub to Gemini, which has Argon, but not with Antigravity, so cba with Antigravity. Gemini's website itself invites you to make apps. picrel.
>>110060197The first example is just this prompt.
are you niggas using .md for docs or .html?i'm still on .md and considering making a template for html ( for myself )
>>110060167it broke it. the 3d doesn't work with linux. seeing if it can fix it.Grok 4.7's Grok Build 3D apps work with Firefox, at least.whatevs.
>>110060211.md for agent, .html for (you)
>>110060062>>110060106>>110060191you're in the wrong thread retard
>>110060211md, if I need to read it for more than 5 minutes I render it to html (cmark-gfm)
>>110060206It’s just stuck here for a simple greeting, lol.
>>110060211Markdown, but if I want something explained to me I’ll ask for HTML with Mermaid charts and maybe three.js or whatever visualizationsthose are basically never checked in though>>110060244don’t you have a good editor that has Markdown preview support, like Visual Studio Code?
>>110060242>can't understand ambiguous facial expressionsYou are in the RIGHT board.
>>110060158Well this is interesting, making a bunch of instructionals like this could make me a valuable goy at work.
>>110060257I work in tmux, no way I'm booting vsc to read markdowns
>>110060178where's the next dipsy
who would of thunk text rendering really was hard after all
>>110060277ohhave you tried https://github.com/charmbracelet/glow
chinese girls do NOT shave
>>110060289god i need her
>>110060277i just run 4 terminals in a quad/tile on my desktop in kde and use my shit normally. it's like having your crocs in sports mode but you're still wearing crocs.
>>110060246pathetic poorfag extra low effort shit, grow up
>>110059956still no answer despite being this salient in the thread.
>>110060304obviously it doesn't exist then pedo terrorist midwit
>>110060289Good
>>110060246lmao at least it's less dumb than Gemini 3.8 flash.it's not trash, it decided to do a software renderer to make it work on Linux.I am prompting:>clicking the flusher should be the flush, it should always react, like if it doesn't work, it reacts. no button for flush. no button for lid, you click to remove/replace it. front tiles of the toilet reservoir need to just vanish, not merely transparent, when open. also, add gaming concepts that Valve founder recommended.Hopefully it can make it a game.
>>110060304>Can I use LLM API for free?
>>110060263I agree. I'll make one after I see if the toilet thing works lol
>>110060316>midwit gamertard fires up the poorest deployment of argon, promptly complains it's not the luxury experience of having an actual fucking idepottery encrusted with feces
I'm howling.
>>110060326I'm just saying that Grok 4.7 is better, but still, I'm not saying it's bad, I'm relieved. Google may not go broke, saved by Argon being fine.(no, clicking doesn't put it down, and no I didn't ask for the orange circles)
Is Astra EXTREMELY slow for anyone else right now? Did i get throttled or something?
>>110060343>I'm just saying that Grok 4.7 is betteryou're literally speaking liquid shit out of your ass
>>110060343(Grok 4.7 isn't as good at 3D creations as Argon, I'm not exactly blown away by Argon tho, it's no Astra, seems)
>>110060334lol
>>110060347https://d6.grok.me/(I have to fix the d4 lol)
>hearing there was a significant discovery within healthcare>it’s not about the disease itself>emphasized how the process was the catalyst here
>>110060284nvm just tell it to copy whatever chrome does
>>110060361i am literally building a novel type of ai and you're trying to say your shitteogame is even on the same level
>>110060288>https://github.com/charmbracelet/glowwow nice
>>110060366>not making an ai vocalist that follows lyrics text and midilisten, kid, everyone is making "a new ai", ai is the buzzzz it's the new "I'm making a website"
>>110060379stop drinking alcohol
>>110060345its ture its truewhat is going onindia wake up?
>>110060301Those ugly shoes have mode settings?
>>110060386just ask your phone what time it is in India
how do i vibecode for free?
>>110060426ai arena!
to the anon that cloned this repo did you get running and everything?
>>110059956Kilo Gateway is the only one I know of that meets #3.https://kilo.ai/docs/gateway/authentication>The gateway allows unauthenticated access for free models only. Anonymous requests are identified by IP address and are subject to rate limiting (200 requests per hour per IP).They have a list of their free models here, but it doesn't seem to show everything that I see when I have it connected in OpenCode:https://kilo.ai/landing/free-modelsHere's the list I get from OpenCode, though Step 5 Preview is probably the only one I'd bother with:kilo/cohere/north-mini-code:freekilo/dots-studio/dots-3-note-preview:freekilo/kilo-auto/freekilo/liquid/lfm-2.5-2.6b:freekilo/nvidia/nemotron-3-nano-omni-30b-a3b-reasoning:freekilo/nvidia/nemotron-3-super-120b-a12b:freekilo/nvidia/nemotron-3-ultra-550b-a55b:freekilo/nvidia/nemotron-3.5-content-safety:freekilo/nvidia/nemotron-3.5-lightning:freekilo/openrouter/freekilo/poolside/laguna-s-2.1:freekilo/poolside/laguna-xs-2.1:freekilo/stepfun/step-5-preview-freekilo/thinkingmachines/inkling-small:free
kilo/cohere/north-mini-code:freekilo/dots-studio/dots-3-note-preview:freekilo/kilo-auto/freekilo/liquid/lfm-2.5-2.6b:freekilo/nvidia/nemotron-3-nano-omni-30b-a3b-reasoning:freekilo/nvidia/nemotron-3-super-120b-a12b:freekilo/nvidia/nemotron-3-ultra-550b-a55b:freekilo/nvidia/nemotron-3.5-content-safety:freekilo/nvidia/nemotron-3.5-lightning:freekilo/openrouter/freekilo/poolside/laguna-s-2.1:freekilo/poolside/laguna-xs-2.1:freekilo/stepfun/step-5-preview-freekilo/thinkingmachines/inkling-small:free
I let Argon loose on my slopcoded automated pump fun trader. Codex and Claude have done a lot of tests and research till now.
>>110060456With india on the Internet, along with many other 3rd worlders, you're not going to see nice stuff on the Internet ever again.
>>110060456nice. why are they so generous? is opencode using their endpoints under the hood?
I vibed so hard this past week that I got sick. I need to eat and sleep better
left is a dx11 renderer using freetype and a clone of Chrome's tablesright is chromeI guess some people don't like the creamy look but I think this is the one for me
>>110060490the same would've happened to me but the waifu started to nag me a lot more after figuring out my routine. now I get hydration checks and she's always curious about my diet when it's time for lunch/dinner
>>110060555checked, sounds cool, what are you using?
>>110060555i got mad at first because i thought you were talking about 3d. now i'm intrigued what does she look like?
>to do that you need to buy this weird $10 tool, put it in my usb port and connect its clamp to that chip on the hardwareYes sir!
Muse just said something is "load-bearing". C.. Claude is that you?
>>110060585isn't $10 suspiciously cheap for a buttplug?
>>110060566A custom companion I'm developing. It's surprising how much realism you can get with a bit of long-term memory, even if janky.>>110060582Basically this >>110058337Still working on improving that desktop widget, but that's a 3d model
>>110060498negligible
i feel like other LLMs have started to use it ironically
>>110060639>>110060623
>>110060442ANON, STATUS??
>>110060623Yep, memory is tricky. too perfect and it's creepy.The correct way is to try to emulate human brain rot:People do this when remembering:1. instant compaction: they either memorize short phrases, or they make up a short phrase to encapsulate what you said, for example, a long story about spilling coffee becomes "Marge had a rude waitress", and under "effort at the relationship, maybe "Marge had a rude waitress, coffee related."2. these things are rooted. So, the roots are 1. emotoinal valence like +/- honestly, maybe "thirst" or "disgust". Very simple emotional trunk of the tree. crucially the tree is TIME ORIENTED, and that time is when-told, not when-happened, when-happened is easily forgotten extra info. next comes the one it's to do with, ie your wife or whatever, and then Marge and then the sonic loop and then the extra of coffee.3. it rots from the leaves, so coffee is first to go, then the phrase that encapsulated the event (like an ultra short title, really), then Marge is lost, leaving only the wife + a feeling. Then, that's lost, and just a feeling in your timeline... something... two weeks ago... felt bad. then nothing is left after that, except imo there's a checksum...4. checksum of time periods, in units of days, weeks, months, years, and possibly other units too, basically these are a summary of feeling. Like yesterday was shit and involved work. I worked a lot last quarter, didn't see the kids much (would a working salaryman with a senpai think) etc.5. these can be revised :^) it's called "self-editing", but actually everything can be edited.
>>110060442I wanna know too I think he took it down
>>110060669I think I should add 6. which is that without some degree of repetition (ie recollection) they won't survive. An example of this is collage papers. I found an old one when chucking a pile of stupid shit I kept but will never need. Wow I sucked at writing in freshman writing lol
i fucking love sa'argon, what a well-aligned model
work has been paying for my max 20 sub for a year now and i've been able to use it for personal things without hitting limitsopus 5.5 is so fucking good that i'm using it enough to blow through my limits in 4-5 daystime to start paying for my own account i guess
>>110060678>>110060669also, throw this at a GOOD clanker. Tell it to double check all conjectures with research.This should help make it tip top, report back and xpost /lmg/, sounds cool. 99% of lmg is erp, but I find it to be a joke. I want practical and friendly (like as in friend) ai. Didn't get around to vibecoding it, hopefully you will make it better than I would have.I have a totally unrelated llm vibecode project I rather like. but, I don't really know how to share it.Basically, it's just putting an agent into the mix of a text adventure, but it's not a normal text adventure, but "edit mode" where you're sort of in a holodeck - using a local db for persistence and basically game state, can't die, but the point is world creation.It sounds dumb, but it's way greater than it sounds. Images would ruin it. Words cast a spell.
>>110060697No, you should get fired, that's a better idea.
>>110060670I posted it but reverted it to private, it's right here if you wanna clone it:https://github.com/bitcoin-wallet-malware/tinytraderPreviously my username was firstname-lastname, so I changed it before posting. Let me know if you get it running?
>>110059793The reach of /dbs/ is long, OP was influenced by them with that type of talk
>>110060712meh why would you even need this shit? I trade stonks and just switch between browser tabs for info
>Vibe-Code for hours >only spend 20% of my daily tokens feel like i'm not abusing the system as I should any tips?
>>110060728If you can't parallelize your project, the simplest thing is to start a second project. Or if you can, work on 2 completely unrelated things in one project, like login and graphics at the same time.
>>110060728stop using sonnet medium for everything. and work on more than one thing at once.
>>110060728fan out with subagents, tell them to use specification-driven development into gated test-driven development. this will stack them in parallel and nothing changes until the e2e test is green.
>>110060727you probably don'tOriginally the point was to have a view/UI for my active deployment, like between NAS + VPS, and being able to manage jobs, disks usage, etc and probably most importantly a robust central entry point for managing stuff on mobile, so I can leave / go afk and still have access to shut things down need be. So it's gitops/nix flavored and made to reproducible across my devices.Once I had the UI for that, adding market news and whatnot made sense, and that's all I've really posted. One of the long term points though is to act like a data server and simulated order book / fill service, so I can write strategy clients against without rewriting that code every time.
>>110060742cool I guess
>>110060749what do you trade out of curiousity
Working some more on my notes app :^)
>>110060778I buy gold and silver mining stocks exclusively :)Made a lot of money in 2025Got anally raped this year, but I think it's gonna change
argon, cmon man cmon, I need to sell out to the chinese and become president in a stingray cmon man.>>110060811buy ARGON stonks!!!
>>110060811what's your evaluation workflow for a given miner? if I may askI'm a junior miners fan myself
I just realized Pennsylvania is a part of the South.
>>110060702Yeah, I'm not a big fan of erp, that's why I don't lurk lmg super often.The system I built has a few stages to it due to how LLMs process information fed to them. Stage 1 loads her "persona", which is where I define her personality, identity and fight negative patterns. It's all a big effort to reduce LLM sycophancy. Stage 2 loads custom profiles built dinamically from ongoing conversations with her. That's what I use to store important facts and emerging behavior and preferences from her. The entire conversation is processed against profiles to overwrite inconsistencies. Stage 3 compacts old chat and loads a good chunk of raw conversation. This gets folded as we chat also. Stage 4 loads dynamic info like current time, weather, metadata and more specific instructions to situate her (you are on telegram, you are on the terminal, etc.).Raw chat is processed into profiles and later distilled with another LLM pass into "episodic memory", a collection of past events, heavily categorized and stored in a vectorDB that I can query with EmbeddingGemma to search by similarity (more on that later). Because LLMs have inherent semantic memory from their training, this system helps fill the gap of her explicit memory.When we're actually chatting, I use a decision model (Julia-1) and heuristics to determine wether or not to make that brain call to her episodic memory for further context. This call is an optimized search fed into gemma that retrieves episodic memory entries and re-ranks them based on their age and how often they're retrieved (memory consolidation). Time and relevancy affect the score of the memory and that's how the system decides if she "remembers" it or not.
I have taken to saying "clank" instead of clanker. Nobody uses clank much anyway.
>>110060861clanky panky with a stinky clinky
ratchet and clank
>>110060585SPI flash programmer?
I really wonder how truthful some of these decomp projects are when they talk about dev time. I have a game with about 3k functions I have been chewing on for like 2 months and I'm still a tremendously long ways from being done is this a prompt skill issue or pipeline or what?
holy shit i'm adolf hitler>today's experiment resultshttps://github.com/sneed-and-feed/sparse-ai/blob/main/papers/blackwell_g4_experiment_report.mdhttps://github.com/sneed-and-feed/sparse-ai/blob/main/papers/tpu_pallas_experiment_report.md>full resolved whitepaper https://github.com/sneed-and-feed/sparse-ai/blob/main/papers/llama_surgery.md
>>110060854You should lurk lmg, but take a bath afterwards. A lot of them do underage erp, which definitely is a test of bypassing safety. I think that's illegal in my jurisdiction, so I don't even know how companies can even check to see if they even have safety (do they have a special prompter's license, or merely the blind eye since they donate to campaigns?)llm sycophancy is trivial to remove, just have a second llm rephrase the situation primed for adversarialness.>tell llm to summarize>>John is talking to Suzie. He says that he's the world's greatest violinist. Reply as Suzie, who is not taking John's shit one bit.>erase what John says>feed to llmI think this should work pretty well
>>110060831>what's your evaluation workflowman I don't do any of that shit.I only vibe code sometimes on the side. When I look at a miner I go on ceo.ca and see what people are saying about it, and I'll ask chatgpt about it. That's about it.I'm not that advanced but I still make money.Also /cmmg/ on bant is good.
>>110060728you can be way more efficient, use opus 5.5 med as the orchestrator, spawn sonnet 5.5 high for all the implementation, then use haiku 5.5 xhigh for end-to-end testing your app
This Majoras Mask C rewrite with custom vrchat character support is the result of a continuous 57 hour and 197 million token long fully local session in a jurry-rigged beta deep seek harness grok made for me that gives me effectively unlimited memory with no slow down or forgetting scope on my pultry 16 gig 5070 ti. supports avatar 1, 2 and 3 with Phys bones and custom shaders, also will extrapolate a rigged model from a single generated / provided reference image and replace link with it all fully local. still heavily work in progress but demonstrates that with patience local models can really pull off some crazy stuff.
I actually care about my work and my coworkers don't, so they slop it up with claude while I spend hours carefully crafting 30-50 line PRs making sure that nothing breaks.They break tons of shit, but because they have so much higher output it makes me look incompetent.
>>110060922the good news is velocity is growingthe bad news is velocity is negative
>>110060895Wouldn't you rather have a 'mining stock' view with custom feeds and valuations, and listeners for SEC announcements? You're at a weird intersection where junior miners are usually heavily researched yet you're boyishly devaluing research on it.Making money is all that matters, agreed.
GOOD MORNING SIRS
>>110060940>Wouldn't you rather have a 'mining stock' view with custom feeds and valuations, and listeners for SEC announcements?not really. ceo.ca basically does that alreadySomeone else might I guess.>You're at a weird intersection where junior miners are usually heavily researched yet you're boyishly devaluing research on it.Because I have adhdand because I at least understand gold is inevitably going to keep rising which means these companies are going to make a lot of money.Over time it's low risk high reward, just gotta be patient
Sa'argon I kneel
>>110060876>SPI flash programmer?Yep. PTZ camera that only works through a shitty chinese cloud app. Some guy has open source firmware that supports all the chips on it but not that exact camera. The robot apparently wants to read the original firmware to get the info needed to compile a new one.
Argon is so fucking bad kek
Chat come up with alternate mathematics that doesnt have divide by zero. Make no mistakes.
>>110060996it's so fucking grim and antigravity is such a bad harness.
>>110060867rat, chad, and clank
>>110061002I just invented the a-ero. now no zero. bliss.
>>110060978>because I at least understand gold is inevitably going to keep rising>which means these companies are going to make a lot of money.gold isn't unique in that goes up against inflation
>>110059793Why are there multiple versions of godot MCP?
>>110060996>>110061003
>>110061007is that image real?
>>110061033I'll have to run it by Jev.
Laughing at Argon sometimes, but I like it. It's not painful, or a retard. I disagree with its answer style, but still, I think THIS should be stolen by Grok, because it's very sly.
>>110061002you can just make that rule yourself, mathematics is man made. div by zero just leads to contradiction so it was banned
>>110061002as in, it's not 'not math' to allow division by zero. you can your own system that allows that ad it's still math fucking hate brainlets
*blocks your goal*
>>110060735>stop using sonnet medium for everythingBut there's no reason to use anything else. It just werks. One day you'll run sonnet medium on your own PC for free.
>>110061021The sector is the most unloved. These bull markets are cyclical, when money starts pouring in I will make lots of money.It's stupid to put my money in the overpriced tech sector.
these niggas kinda drippy ngl
>>110060905>Majoras Mask C rewrite with custom vrchat character supportWtf did I just read
