Thoughts, feelings? Tired of Chrome shit
>>110063960It's fine, never had an issue with it.Personal thing though, I went back to regular FF simply because all Gecko forks 'lag' behind with updates. And you can just add Arkenfox larp to regular FF and you get Librewolf basically.
unironically + tbqh they just made the logo and slapped half assed arkenfox on top of firefox that's it
is there a point to using privacy oriented web browsers for websites like discord or other shit that wants to track your offsite activity? >discordmust use for work unfortunately
>>110063960amaroK is a cool program but feels a little dated in modern days
>>110063974>>110064001librewolf removes the AI bullshit from their binaries, does arkenfox do that?
>>110064066Theres a built-in switch in Firefox that does it, Librewolf just uses that + removes the UI from settings. But if you're insanely paranoid you can go into about:config and disable everything with ml. in it (the switches in settings already do that).
>>110063960Been using it for five years and I like it.
>>110063960I don't really agree with turning off google safe browsing while also being a few days behind on Firefox updatesIt's neat I guess but it's something you can do yourself by just using a custom user.js, for Firefox forks I think Zen and Waterfox are cooler
this shit glows>Does LibreWolf make any outgoing connections?>Yes, but they aren't in any way privacy invading and they were carefully evaluated. We consider these connections to be important for user security and to provide a safe browsing experience, as they fetch necessary updates to security features and blocking lists.https://librewolf.net/docs/faq/#does-librewolf-make-any-outgoing-connections
>>110063960Even more troony than Firefox. Waterfox is better.
>>110064505>WaterfoxBetter how exactly
>>110064547The anon is just a biased autist, it's the same thing as Librewolf except they offer all 3 UI designs that Firefox released, that's it, it still 'lags' behind with security updates the same way all other Gecko forks do.
>>110063974>i need my Updates within 1 hour of release, rather than 5!What mental illness causes this?
>>110064571>it still 'lags' behind with security updates
>>110064571If waterfox is the same thing, it is the better choice.Since librewolf is indeed infested with trannies.
>>110064608nta what they patch is a nothingburger it's not worth it
>>110064608>>110064623I mean, you can meme on updooters but it's just a fact, it does lag behind, some people don't like running known CVEs when an update is available.
>>110064571>>110064634its not the same thing, waterfox is just firefox but debloated, librewolf is for privacy
>>110064645>it does lag behindSo it also gets new vulnerabilities, that updates introduce, later.Let the idiots be the beta testers.
>>110064645>some people don't like running known CVEs when an update is availableCan you name one of those ominous CVEs?What specific CVEs did the last firefox version fix?
Looks like both Waterfox and Librewolf trannies are starting to have a meltdown over delayed updates. Sheesh.
>>110064661Privacy is a subset of debloated.Something that spies, is always bloat.Something that is bloat, doesn't always spy.A request to a telemetry server is simultaneously bloat and spying.A local AI model reading your bookmarks, but not uploading the results to anywhere, is bloat, but not spying.
>>110064703perhaps, the point was more so to say that waterfox doesnt focus on privacy as much, which means some data will go through that wouldnt go with librewolf
>>110064762seems to be very focused on privacy, though:https://www.waterfox.com/docs/policies/privacy/On any settings i care about (like OCSP and safe browsing), they match with librewolf.Disabling search suggestions is something i do myself in settings, and i have to do that in both. Same with with setting what data the browser deletes on close.For me personally, i would end up with the same thing.But it's a registered company in Bong land.I don't trust the hate-speech-laws enforcing country any more than trannies.Still not using it. Gonna stick with librewolf so far.
>>110063960I use it. It's fine. Basically Firefox with more robust privacy settings. All the Firefox extensions work on it too, considering it's a fork.
>>110065051Which extensions would you recommend?
Found out about Surf by Suckless.Seems cool but idk when will I switch.I currently use Librewolf, Firefox without the telemetry but functionally it's kinda the same.
>>110065351>no uboyou know where it goes
>>110063960Tried compiling it multiple times for my arch rig. Runs for hours only to abort with errors every time.It's probably great if you can actually install it.
>>110065365Fuck does UBO mean? uBlock Origin?
>>110065381bro it's in official arch repos>>110065396yes
There's literally nothing it does that five minutes in about:config in Firefox can't also do.
>>110065401oh, that's new. It used to only be in aur
>>110063960Will break some shit. Use Waterfox instead if you don't want to mess with anything.
Librewolf has been my main browser for like a couple of years now. I've never had any major issues with it other than some sites thinking I'm a bot and restricting my access because of the privacy settings.
>>110065365But I can use a PiHole for that. Or even do it on the machine I use the browser on, idk.. I'll find out a way.I'm already prolly not gonna use the browser for a lot of websites outside of documentation and 4chan.And for YouTube, I just use mpv with ytdl and I don't have ads and it's also a minimal way to use YouTube.
>>110065269I only use some basic bitch shit, because I have no need for anything more niche:>uBlock Origin (I think this one comes preinstalled, but I don't remember. Fantastic adblocker.)>Ghostery (If you live in Europe, then it's good for automatically sending "Do not consent" to all those GDPR pop ups)>Dark Reader>Privacy Badger>SponsorBlock for YouTube>YouTube NonStop
>>110065522>ghosteryThis one?
>>110065554looks like it
>>110064547NTA but Waterfox does seem better than Firefox just for disabling all the deeper telemetry inside Firefox but also the built in rust based blocker that Brave made is good. It’s a little buggier than Brave’s implementation since it’s the first Firefox browser fully enabling it but if you don’t use dynamic filtering or medium/hard mode in ublock origin, it’s only a matter of time before it can parse 100% of the ubo syntax and its observably more efficient than relying on an extension
>>110065522>>Ghostery (If you live in Europe, then it's good for automatically sending "Do not consent" to all those GDPR pop ups)uBO cookie lists already do this.>>Privacy BadgeruBO cookie lists already do everything this does.Please read the documentation of the shit that you install, fucking retards on this website.
>>110065778Why would I read the documentation of a browser extension? I just look at the advertised feature list at the time of installation, look at whether people who get paid to see whether its secure say it's secure, and that's enough for me. You have to be able to operate in the world of tech with some ability to use abstraction. If you want to be an extension hobbyist that does deeper than surface-level dives into extension capabilities, then you're of course free to do so, but that's not going to be the vast majority of the userbase of those products. If I'm going to bore myself with perusing a documentation, then I'd rather it be something useful like the shit I need for work.
>>110063960Waterfox gets the job done and it is also more refined in terms of user experience.
I use brave
>>110066154That's the no-brainer option if you want something Chrome-based. If you want a Trannyfox fork, LibreWolf and Waterfox are good.
>>110066154>bravegood that they moved from chromium
>>110065351The problem is that webkit is just balls. It hammers the cpu, it crashes all the time, regardless of which browser you use around it luakit, surf etc etc the underlying issue is the same
>>110063974Either the newest update for Firefox broke Arkenfox or its just CachyOS's retarded hardened Firefox config that conflicts with Arkenfox user.jsAny CachyOS users deal with this?
>>110063960I had doubts about it but every time someone complained about firefox fucking something up I haven't even seen it so that's good.
i just use upstream firefox + betterfox and i never had a single issue
>>110064674There is a whole huge list of them on the update page in the security fixes link. Can't bother linking cause I'm on mobile. Major updates have a lot of security fixes but minor updates frequently have them too. That's why using forks is bad, they lag behind. Firefox and Chrome give updates the fastest. Brave isn't too far behind. Don't know about Edge. Vanilla Chromium builds on Linux can lag days behind.
>>110063960Has there ever been a fix for the timezone issue?
>>110068234That’s a feature not a bug, the resist fingerprint setting in Firefox is forcibly spoofing things like your time zone and resolution because that’s the only way to standardize your fingerprint. It makes sense for Tor and Mullvad to have this enabled but you’re seeing what you sacrifice for a little more privacy. This is also why Brave is seen as some as better for being a daily driver, it’s the best you can for fingerprinting without going to that extreme
>>110064019What you need is VPN + some form of virtualization.But even just using LibreWolf is a good idea since then your browser won't send analytics to Google/Apple/the Chinese/etc.
>>110068419I guess that makes sense.Is there a workaround?
Good thread
>>110068419>that’s the only way to standardize your fingerprintWhich is a bad concept tbqh.The user is going to change some setting or add some extension that rats him out anyway.It only works with Tor Browser somewhat (it still can be fingerprinted, but the effort is large), because thats one bundle that specifically tells you not to change it and only use it for the shortest time, till you did what you wanted.The better approach is to intentionally try to create a unique fingerprint, but this unique fingerprint changes each time. A fingerprint is only useful if it stays consistent.Unironically, this is what Brave does.
