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>>110066530Ooooh a PNY Verto.I wonder of the fan on that thing lasted even a year.
Are 420/480mm AIOs worth it?
>>110066688There's no replacement for displacement. But, it's definitely a case of diminishing returns and especially with AMD5, your bottleneck is the headspreader, interface and pump before the size of the radiator. Bigger radiators still do better, but in terms of money to performance ratio, there's less there. Really, the big benefit of a 420mm rad is that it uses 3x140mm fans and those are quieter.
I'm trying to put together a working PC from several hand-me-downs. I've never seen a slot like this, what's that half-size PCI slot, and can I use a graphics card (gtx 1030) in it?
>>110066530>Warthog RSThis things looks like a novelty item, is this a real suggestion?
>>110066807yes. you can probably use it for your gpu. why do i say probably? because some oem systems force the slot below to be used sometimes.
If you were getting a new monitor what would you get mini-led or oled? i mostly play fps games but also single players
>>110066882I have OLED, and I would buy OLED again.
>>110066855I wouldn’t mind getting the black version if I needed a new case.Front 200mm fans, enough space for most components.
>>110066882Go to an electronics store and demo them.
>>110066882It depends on your setup, use case, and priorities If you're only going to be doing games on that monitor and want best motion clarity/response times and contrast you can buy OLED knowing it will burn in eventually despite superior picture qualityAnything else and mini led might be better if you are more of a mixed user and frequently have static content, or maybe you just like the high sustained and peak brightness more
>>110066886Yeah but most people can't afford to buy OLED again and if monitor prices are going up then you probably want your investment to last
giys I should've bought an ssd when I had the chance... fuck...
It's over isn't? They want to make goys pay for cloud pcs or something
>>110066530based thermaltake offering 5 year warranty when every other company offered 10
It's getting to be around the time to repaste my CPU, so I'm wondering if I should upgrade my cooler while I'm at it. I'm running a Scythe Fuma 2 on a 5800x3d which throttles at 90c. I've clocked temps up to 86c in very very demanding games where my GPU becomes a radiator. How much cooler would something like the Phantom Spirit be in degrees? Then again, the repaste will probably drop me a few by itself.
>>110066807that's an x4 slot you can try but a 1030 probably is an x8 card
>>110066882>i mostly play fps gamesoledminiled is actually the worst thing you could possibly buy oled nothing else for fps except pulsaroled
I got a new PC and lost all the will to do 3D Renders and play Video Games. Now all I do on it is watch YT and browse this shithole.
>>110066530>https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/oled-rgb-stripe-panels-explained-should-you-waitShould you wait?https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20261007PD226/panel-monitor-price-aoc-philips.htmlhttps://counterpointresearch.com/en/reports/lcd-makers-pushing-for-price-increases>The big three display glass and panel manufacturers (BOE, CSOT, and HKC) have sent strict notices to display brands regarding aggressive panel price increases. Major OEM suppliers like KTC have publically stated that global component inflation and AI-memory chip shortages mean they can no longer absorb the manufacturing costs. Major brands like AOC, Philips, and LG are gradually raising retail prices to preserve margins.Monitor prices are going to go up unless you suggest major brands like LG or Samsung can absorb the costs.
>Ryzen 7 5800X3D - 32GB DDR4 3200mhz CL16 = $500>Ryzen 5 7600x - 16GB DDR5 6000mhz CL36 = $500This is just for games, do you think DDR4 is still a decent choice and will be compatible in 5+ years for all modern titles? I'm wondering which will be the first to cripple me, the DDR4 architecture or the limited amount of 16GB DDR5.
>>110067177the ram easily
I have to make a decision before Friday. I'm on a 3800X system with an X470 motherboard and 128GB of DDR4 3200 CL16. Should I grab a 5800X3D via Amazon, or try going for a 14700K and Z790 from Microcenter?
>>110067177i dunno how the fuck youre ending up at 500 bucks for a 5800x3d and 32gb of ddr4, unless youre buying both of them new, in which case id ask why
>>110067177>I'm wondering which will be the first to cripple me, the DDR4 architecture or the limited amount of 16GB DDR5.If you're gonna play modern slop like BL4 then it will use 20 gigs of RAM in the main menu so.
>>110066530Should I not get a r9700 for text inference or h3 video gen?
>>110067079You’re looking at around 3 to 5C improvement, could be more but not guaranteed.Scythe’s mount and cold plate designs prioritized Intel CPU cooling performance.
>>110067211get that one lga1700 board that takes ddr4 if youre going to willingly cuck yourself into shittel
>>110067120>I got a new PC and lost all the will to do 3D Renders and play Video Games. Now all I do on it is watch YT and browse this shithole.
This is my current PC, but I've had an RX 6600 sitting in a box for a couple years. Been waiting to upgrade everything else but I'm broke and can't afford it unless there's some really good deals this November. Is there any reason not to swap out the 280x for this rn?
>>110067223Don't trust usedniggers>>110067231So 32GBs of DDR4 will go longer?
>>110067262You waitfagged way too long. Missed deals like the $150 5700X3D and sub $50 32GB DDR4 upgrades.
still on am4still on ddr4ain't changing
Should I get 32 GB of ddr5 ram or 48
>>110067246Supposedly the 14700K is the best DDR4 CPU overall if you don't just game or if your scenario can't make use of the 3D V-Cache.
Currently on DDR5.Currently on AM5.Will be a day-one DDR6 and Nova Lake buyer.
>>110067411Ddr6 will be hammer lake/zen8 in 2039
im waiting, it's gonna pop soon anyways
>>1100674312030***
>AM3>DDR3>AM4>DDR4>AM5>DDR5DDR6 on AM6 confirmed
>>110067211>>110067386If you want to improve the performance & reliability of the 14700K, you need to be comfortable with undervolting the CPU, and running all the lengthy stability tests.They run pretty power inefficiently out of the box (used to own one).Most 14700K should be able to handle at least 50~80mV undervolt (negative adaptive offset).Board manufacturers added "Intel Default" profiles in their updated BIOS, add the -50~80mV CPU undervolt to that profile.Dig through the CPU overclocking settings to set a 1.35V maximum core voltage limit.5800X3D is the better choice if you play games that greatly benefit from the VCache, and if you can't be bothered with the 14700K BIOS changes.
>>110067445holy shit
>try to check out the new vibed BFI app https://github.com/artzox/BFI-Presenter>requires reshade with pic related...
What would you do with 8 3090s in a gpu server with 384gb ram?
i think im gonna buy a 14600k before they go up in price even more
>>110067507play minecraft with mods
>>110067509have you checked power consumption on those vs amd equivalents
>>110067509ddr4 or 5?
>>110067262>Is there any reason not to swap out the 280x for this rn?pretty pointless if you don't upgrade the cpu to like a 5600 at least
>>110067450Personally I just got sick of my i7-14700K and the entire mess along with high wattage GPUs and high wattage high temp components in an ATX case with a stupid spaceheater 1000 watt PSU and focused on what I want a machine to do and running cool off a 500 watt PSU, best mix is is 64GB DDR5 or 32GB DDR5 you can't afford 64, an i5-14400 and a 12GB 3060 with as much storage on ssd and nvme as you can fit in the case. The intel i7 1th gen fuckups and the shitshow that is the 5080/90 made me learn to value good and cool not meme status parts that deliver nothing but grief, things were going to shit wth this led fan space heater PCI card blast furnace power spiking crap even before the LLM scam the signs were there even the 4090s
>>110067531i need this one >>110067543im gonna buy a ddr4 mobo for it
>>110067550The Road was such a depressing film
>>110067479and when I tried to install reshade it redirected to some site with mandatory wait time with obnoxious video playingIs it a troll app, what on earth
>CPU prices are nextebinDo I upgrade my 7600?
>>110067587wait for zen 6
vidya "realistic" graphics are getting really stagnant a mid tier/high tier 60xx series or 70xx will probably be the only card you'll ever need for the rest of your life to play any new game that releases from now on that's why jensen is trying to make as much money with the ai thing right now
>>110067633nigga the ps4 was enough graphical fidelity for most people
>>110067450>>110067550My whole motive for considering a 14700K was under the assumption I could get the thermals and power under control by using every tuning trick available through power limits, voltage control, load line calibration, and so on while at least matching the 5800X3D in gaming, and beating in in everything else for a similar price. In particular I wanted to see what I could do locking it to the same clock speed or disabling the estrogen cores, as my system is generally a low wattage one with my undervolted Ryzen and 5070 probably accounting for 200w combined under load at most. The higher single core IPC also just appeals to me though I'm unsure how much of it is a mirage hamstrung by the cache bottleneck.
>>110067640the graphic fidelity was there but the games could barely run at 1080p internal resolution 30fps, and very often they had to use dynamic resolution so more power was still needed, even now
>>110067575I found it very cheerful and upfting. Great book by the way give it a read. It is about being a father more than anything else..>>110067262stop fucking around and put 32GB in it before you do anything else.
>>110067665get a 14900ks
Has anyone here ever ordered a prebuilt ?
>>110067665get a 14700kf
>>110067752>give up the one thing that gives intel the edge in some applications
>>110067729Bro, where the GPU?
>>110067665I just found I did not need it or a 5090 and that they and the PSU and intel i7 14th gen shit annoyed me and stressed me more than any gain they gave me in anything I was actually doing. I found the same with the 5080 I decided to drop back to an i5 14th there was no point in having anything more than a 3060 12GB as you just wind up with bottlenecks. I have a i7-14700t in a drawer I have not bothered to play with yet but I will probably put it in a machine with a 5060 16GBb that is also in the drawer. You will call me a cunt but gave away the 5080 and 5090 and the i7K with dire warnings never to leave the PC running unattended or fall aseep in it and to put a smoke alarm near a fan outlet they cost me nothing anyway). have a FLIR cam on my phone and I knew they were shit after a couple of months. The problem is modular PSU cables as a principle to begin with, it is fucking dumb. Going to be a lot of angry people in a year now 5070s are spreading out. Probably a few dead people too. I'm only doing low wattage PSU builds and retro builds from now on and focusing on keeping them cool and running like smooth butter. I have been accused of being a low functioning autist but I am far worse I am exactly average in everything. If you have to get a 50xx get a 5060ti 16GB.
>>110067758doesn't matter whatsoever if you have a 50 series gpu
>>110067729seems fakeno matter what the mobo would be firmly attached to the case via a lot of screws and to break those youd need the case to be in a car crash
>>11006766514700K has the better main 8 cores, 5800X3D has the VCache.It's fine to get the 14700K if you know what you're getting into.You won't lose much performance if you get a bit lucky with the silicon lottery. My 14700K's IMC was rather trash though.I used to have a 180W limit profile, didn't lose any gaming performance.Could've gotten 34K r23 multithreaded score if I shut down some background tasks @ 180W limit.
>>110067786Why do u love larping and generating sloppa this much
Damn i paid $200 for a 12tb wd elements in 22 or 23, it's almost 600 now. I was gonna schuch this and was hoping to get a second. Its an hdd too not even ssd
Damn and i just bought the ultra 7 270k for 294 off amazon. Its shipping from germany apparently. Now its 350 on Amazon. I rwturned my 265k which was like 330 What desktop speakers do you guys recommend? I want something high res with decent bass, do i need a subwoofer?
>>110067849given you live in an apartment how would use speakersyoud annoy all your neighbours when listening to music
Best 4k+ 32" monitor with proper color calibration/range? I'm not a gaymer so not looking for memes, just the best proper monitor, preferably with True Blacked™ contrast. price range up to $1k USD
it should be legal to kill someone who uses a subwoofer in an apartment
>>110067862So you need either miniled or oledtheres lots of qd oled monitors that are good enough, but they have stuff like automatic dimming behavior that may cause grief and arent suitable for professional workThen you can look at ips miniled monitors, apple has some that cost several thousandshttps://gregbenzphotography.com/review-best-hdr-monitor-for-photography/
>>110067826beyond benching it what fucking value to you get from it. show me, do something with it.Anything. 10 PRINT "WHY?"20 GOTO 10>>110067729Read the fucking room. No, why the fuck would I give someone money for nothing when the whole hobby is you know making computers and repairing electronics and writing C and fucking around with emerging tech for me and everyone in the thread. I repaste GPUs for relaxation. I take new stuff apart to see how it works. Thermal paste makes me feel calm and slightly aroused, ARGB fans make me feel nausea and rage. Watercoolers make me punch walls in psychotic hatred.
>>110067862https://www.eizoglobal.com/products/coloredge/cg3200x/index.htmlhttps://www.eizoglobal.com/products/coloredge/cs3200x/index.html
>>110067830I feel your wound. I have no reparations today. Goodbye. As malcomX said "Oh shiet I'm dead, the mutherfucker shot me. Argh"
>>110067849I use an old pioneer 5.1 home theatre system on a fibre coax connector
>>110067177You want the 5800x3d+32gb ram and it isn't even a debate
>>110067177am5 option just close tabs and add another 16 when u can afford it.
>>110067896Grown ass man btw
>>110067887If you were this concerned about the CPU, all you had to do was to downclock and undervolt the 14700K14th gen P-core's performance/efficiency sweet spot is between 4 to 4.9GHz, that's why your 14400 caps out at 4.7GHz.
intel bros...
>>110067862Buy an LCD SDR colorimeter if you don't want to pay the premium for professional-grade monitors.
>>110067930oh lawdy that's a big ass man. Yes siree.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6xJzAYYrX8
>>110067943it's over...
>>110067948we lost...
>>110067943>>110067948>>110067953why were the 14700k/14900k left out
>>110067936or just give it away I give lots of stuff away, I gave someone a painting they liked yesterday It makes me happy. The i7-14k not make me happy it annoyed me.
>>110067961degraded and dnf'd
>>110067968but the burning 9800x3d is also on the chart?
>>110067961kinda low market relevance
>>110067961They're still behind X3Ds.
>>110067880>>110067891>>110067945thx
>>110067936>replying to obvious schizo larp
>>110067984but why were they left out of these >>110067943>>110067948>>110067953
Are generic power supplies that bad?
>>110067975
>>110067997"“But now what? Why, now comes my master, takes me right away from my work, and my friends, and all I like, and grinds me down into the very dirt! And why? Because, he says, I forgot who I was; he says, to teach me that I am only a nigger! "― Harriet Beecher Stowe, Uncle Tom’s Cabin
>>110068014thats not the cpu we talked about
>>110067999That's just how AMDSteve runs his benchmarking business.
>>110068033the 14700k/14900k have less market relevance than the 285k, 225f, both which were featured in these graphs?>>110067943>>110067948>>110067953
>>110067945Or rent it for a day
>>110068041sure
>>110068047lol lmao
>>110068041To give Steve the benefit of the doubt, he may have omitted those CPUs since the degradation issues reduced their demand.
>>110068038even those niggas couldn't bs out of this
>>110068057those cpus are still produced and sold today and sell more than arrow lake https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/raptor-lake-is-a-core-part-of-the-portfolio-for-years-to-come-says-intel-theres-been-a-sudden-inrush-of-demand-for-lga-1700-chips-due-to-ddr5-prices
>>110068058A 250K Plus being barely ahead of the 14700K isn't a good picture.
Explain to me why degradation would be a problem for the 14700K if I would immediately apply the microcode update on top of enforcing a strict bios voltage limit of something like 1.4V and a 142w power limit
>>110068052You can consider that the 13&14 gens were raped and gaped by degradation catastrophe that caused permanent damage to intel as a brand. You wouldnt ever consider telling anyone to buy those used for example.They had an overlapping issue of insanely poor power efficiency vs amd. AMD had years of gaming supremacy with x3d by the time 14xxx cpus came out. You would never buy intel for gaming.Now 270k gen is fine enough, but the focus is for multicore productivity apps, while they suffer from ddr5 pricing issues and being a dead end platform so people dont really buy them in large numbers.
>>110068063That's because people with DDR4 memory have practically no incentive to buy overpriced DDR5 kits.Lets hope those ppl update the BIOS at the very least.>>110068067It wouldn't be a problem in that case.
>>110068064considering its not really gaming oriented its fine
>>110068067Intel bad so the chips are impossible to fix and untrustworthy long term is literally the core reasoning.Nevermind the melting 7800x3ds or dying 9800x3ds, that is zero indication of long-term reliability because it is who you are supposed to be buying.
>>110068073>AMD had years of gaming supremacy with x3d by the time 14xxx cpus came out. You would never buy intel for gaming.the 12900k matched or was faster than the 5800x3d in gaming
>>110068089>BUT ITS ONLY ASSROCK
>>110068092am4 was mega popular platform for its long support period, and x3d boosted the popularity. Intel meanwhile required you to buy new mobo after 2 cpu gens. Then 7800x3d was in a league of its own
>>110068102literally the same statements kek
>>110068104I wouldn't want long support with their shit usb disconnect issues and microstutter, and I'm not a fag upgrading cpu every 3 years.
>Then 7800x3d was in a league of its own
>usb disconnect issues and microstutterahh it's the chubby chaser faggot
>>110068110people are gonna be buying 5800x3d's to slot into a mobo they bought in 2019 in 2027
>>110068121
>>110068133kinda moot tho when lga 1700 CPUs are still going to be madeBy that logic Intel shit is perfectly upgradable.
Can someone blast these chart posting corporate fanboys to the sun?You know the thread's going to be bad when you see all these charts.Go back to talking about Gamesir controllers.
>>110068155well im kinda unclear what the point of the discussion now isthat am4 isnt a popular platform with unparallelled longevity?
>>110068169The point of the discussion originally was performance, you somehow changed it to popularity and “market relevance”.
>>110068175yes thats a givenintel is horribly irrelevant due to the decisions company leadership made past decade
Idk I think all these cpus are ridiculous. It doesn't really matter if one only gets 350fps while the other gets 500fps.
>>110068169You talk about longevity and bring up how a CPU can go into it's litearal contempary mobo.By that logic any intel platform has the same upgradability when you can put an old as fuck CPU in an old as fuck mobo.>>110068178It would be one thing if all the tards actually did what they apparently like AMD for so much.They don't tho
>i don't care about a 42.86% improvement in fps
>>110066807sure if you have clearance, that's why it's open on the end, so you can put a x16 card in the slot despite it being limited to 4 lanes.older optiplexes used to goop you there with a pcie 3.0 x4 slot on top with a pcie 2.0 16x slot on bottom.>>110067120downgrade to 8gb single channel ram and make bank selling everything above that.>>110067177I don't even know if even DDR3 ramspeeds are a bottleneck even now, largely it's the speed of cpu's that support it that's an issue. >>110067386There's literally an i9 for that gen but sure, it's not a bad chip.>>110068064The current gen i5 being on par with the last gen's i7 is kind of just normal.
>>110068204Any improvement above 120fps, I can't tell a difference
>>110068192>Idk I think all these cpus are ridiculous. It doesn't really matter if one only gets 350fps while the other gets 500fps.
>>110068222you won't say that in a few year. todays 120fps are tomorrows 60fps.
You buy the best cpu you can afford so you have fewest issues You never want to be cpu bottlenecked in games, any cpu tier higher is a massive qol improvement when it does happen.You dont know how a particular app will run, theres no clear diminishing return point. Maybe a game becomes cpu reliant when you use a new tech like dlss upscaling and suddenly you're runnin the game with path tracing at 720p and cpu load goes up 3x
Also a good cpu isn’t only an improvement in games, its an improvement in all aspects of computing. Hopefully one day Intel/Amd can provide something as incredible as the M series for single core.
>>110068231>you won't say that in a few year. todays 120fps are tomorrows 60fps. No it eally stopped mattering beyond youtube grifters still running benmchs on something that did matter once. No one gives a shit once it gets above 80-100.
>>110068231I don't think so.30Hz to 60Hz cuts frame time in half (from 33.3ms to 16.7ms), and going from 60Hz to 120Hz cuts it again (to 8.3ms). However, moving from 120Hz (8.3ms) to 144Hz (6.9ms) or 240Hz (4.1ms) offers a much smaller change in time per frame.Beyond 120Hz it's just not that big of an improvement.
>>110068178>intel is horribly irrelevantAccording to techtubers? They still run the consumer/server market.
>>110068262adding 42.86% to 60fps puts you at a comfy 85fps tho.
looks like finding a LGA1700 ddr4 mobo that it's not micro penis it's proving to be quite impossible in my cunt so maybe amkek will be my only option how cucked are micro atx mobos anyways?
>>110068265Theres nothing you need intel for. You can use amd, nvidia hardware just fine, intels absence would impact you zero no matter what you do.
>>110068241>>110068245very true
Higher fps is irrelevant. The same fps between two machines can feel wildly different because they have different PC latency. A 9800X3D is updating data way faster than a 2600 even though they're both locked at 60fps.
>>110068241a i7 4970K with a 1080ti 11GB plays cyberpunk 2077 fine. Same for pretty much any other ganme worth playing. You are fooling yourself. Thhere may be uses for faster CPUs but gaming is a terrible example. An i7-4970k is 4.4GHz an i5-14400 is 4.7 GHz there is fuck all difference in practise for most gayming slop the GPU clock and VRAM and bandwdth matter more and beyond parlour ticks there has been very little actual processing iimprovement there when you strip out DSLSS and the meme that was raytracing. Most games are written around 1080 mid tier GPUs and processors between 4-5 ghz and use a few cores at most because that is the bulk of the market to sell to
>>110068278They are releasing more lga1700 motherboards with the raptor lake refresh
>>110067243>Scythe’s mount and cold plate designs prioritized Intel CPU cooling performance.Huh, I wasn't aware of this. Thanks for the info, seems like it's worth my while to at least try.
>>110068307You see cpu bound scenarios even if recent releasedWitcher 3 remake has tough time in novigrad with a lot of npcs. Witcher 4 examples have assload on npc's in one place and thats cpu workload.Stalker game had issues with npc aiUnreal 5 games generally run smoother with better cpus, less time compiling.
>>110068279What’s amd’s equivalent for quicksync?
Want to build a cheap as fuck cpu/motherboard/ddr4 combo that I can stick a 3070 into and still get over 60+ fps in AAA games, what are my options and how do you bros find these cheap as fuck used options? Seems even Facebook Marketplace is full of scalping jews.
>>110068328idk, I've never come across a scenario where I needed to think about it so its prob not important
why is this retard still trying so hard to shill intlel? not even intlel themselves believe in their bullshit anymore>b-b-but amd bought the whole internet, paid reviews, cpubenchmark was always right, etc
>>11006833012400f/h610/16gb ddr4 or 5600/a520/16gb ddr4
>>110068279>intels absence would impact you zero no matter what you do.I would pay a hell of alot more for CPUs and mobos because of the new monopoly>>110068343How is shilling for only a single vendor in the market any good?
Amdrones really don’t like getting pushback on their cult mentality
>>110068354go back to watching chubby chaser
>>110068334yeah you are just a gamer so buy the amd x3d
>>110068362What sector of the professional computer users need intel cpus features?
>>110068330what the other anon said but I'd get 32gb of ram instead, anon's answer is more accurate since you said cheap af though
>>110068369You wouldn’t even know what they are considering you’ve never had to use quicksync.
why does he always (((forget))) to mention certain metric?
>>110068378I presume you would know who needs intels "sync" something tech
>>110068021一哭二鬧三上吊
