A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, and shipping code with LLMs.You use Git — right, anon?## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/## News (both past and future)- 2026-10-14 — stuff happened## Related generals>>>/g/lmg/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or sohttps://claude.com/product/claude-code — generally better currentlyhttps://developers.openai.com/codex/cli## Near-the-old-frontier models for codehttps://x.ai/cli — no 5h limit for only $30/month## Best free tierhttps://antigravity.google/pricing----## Promptinghttps://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overviewhttps://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model## Skillshttps://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-with-docs is a favoritehttps://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first — do less redundant bookkeeping## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agentshttps://osaurus.ai/https://pi.dev/https://opencode.ai/## Is our AIs unlearning?https://aistupidlevel.info/## Will there be a codex reset?https://codex-resets.com/## What we’ve donehttps://vcg.gitgud.site## Previous thread>>110062860
Argon lost
Ok, tooltip for easymode is in. Which means, i have to make DEUS harder.
>>110067100not yet released
>>110066426>>110065078>>110064189we can render images and shit nowI think I may want to build a chess game to see how well agents handle one shots. Any anons here would like an uncensored chess game where you can host online matches and trash talk your opponents?>no matchmaking, no elo>publish your server, password lock it>uncensored chat, just call your opponent a nigger for being better than you>native dx11, barely uses any resources at allfree, of course, downloadable from itchio
>>110067108ask for subagents to automatically review PRs/commits/etc. and suggest/just implement improvementsbasically copy/hack what Anthropic does with their workflows stuff
>>110067117who even makes dx11 games anymore?it's all vulkan and dx12, grandpa!
>>110067117>destructive action right next to the go-ahead actionshiggity
>>110067127dx11 has full support for sm5, runs on linux via wine with better than windows native performance and will always perform better than a vulkan/dx12 game made by a beginnerusing dx12/vk without having any experience is, honestly, utterly retardeddx11 will always>alwaysbeat dx12/vk on nontrivial demos when coded (even LLM assisted) by a two non senior developersbesides an RHI abstracts away the renderer anyway, so it's more like a bootstrapping platform than anything else
best hardware for vibing in cafes and public workspaces? I always thought a laptop, until I realized I can connect my mobile monitor to my samshit s24 via USBC DP ALT cable which activates a desktop interface mode (DeX or whatever) just like on a windows laptop.
>>110067150>using dx12/vk without having any experience is, honestly, utterly retardedbut is the LLM he’s using a beginner? maybe modern LLMs are better now
>>110067154a laptop is finedon’t overthink itjust make sure you have a stable internet connection
>>110067154
>>110067077This has to be on the menu somewhere in France or China.
>>110067150me and my RHI, vulkan, and dx12 renderer beg to differ, snailcat
>>110067192show project then
DEUS mode got a little extra too!
>>110067087https://x.com/theo/status/2110461582237188207
>>110067150lil bro, they made gl/vk/dx11 compability layers for dx12 some time ago.>hurr durr I don't need proper async gpu compute, VRS and hardware raytracing.ok luddite bub
>>110067144wow I wondered why llms keep adding little explanations everywhere.That must be why lmao
>>110067154Why do you need more than your phone to prompt the remote session
>>110067214what do you even need those things for? post project because that's AAA game tier
>>110067170
Is the tinytrader guy here? I didnt scam you nigger.
>>110067199not interested in sharing yet unless you find looking at bistro or sponza as interesting which it isn't. working on ddgi atm.
>>110067248right, then maybe shut the fuck up instead of talking trash if you're going to be such a pussy
>>110067144>Mac OS X dialog boxes.pngthat's not an alert
>>110067260nigga you cannot handle a small jab, lmao. big butt mad over a passing comment, lmao.
>>110067264so? just post your project, afraid someone may poke a small jab at it?
>>110067270y u so mad bro - here's your boring bistro scene with my unfinished busted ddgi and no reflections - in vulkanpost your project repo I am curious and yes you are getting mad over nothing
>>110067218it’s not a bad idea in generalI think they put little explanations when they shouldn’t, and fail to add them when they should
>COREWEAVE CEO BLAMES SHARE DROP ON MARKET ACTING 'IRRATIONALLY'It’s the market’s fault I have no possible pathway to profit!
>>110067407I'm more surprised that adobe stock hasn't really fallen. I wonder what their game plan is.
>>110067407Is the market looking like it’s irrational longer than he thinks he can stay solvent?
>>110067415the bulk of their money comes from multiperson multicompany workflows, not people who are getting drawn away by a no-support Paint.NET fly-by-night operation
>>110067423>multiperson multicompany workflowsEnlighten me on what exactly that means? Sounds like marketing wank.
>>110067415Adobe can just say they're planning another 100 billion dollar data center and suddenly their stock goes up. The market knows this so it hasn't dumped.That's how it works.
What I'm working on right now is going to blow a lot of peoples' minds. It's a big project, a culmination of different sources and implementations that has never been packaged as one app. I will share more when I'm confident I can actually achieve it.
>>110067449That's probably pretty true and they still have huge name recognition. I'm curious in the long term how they're going to be affected by all this.
>>110067471In the long run the bond market is looking attractive and the stocks are looking like shit. I'm happy my work is unaffected by any such recessions.
i love squeezing everything from the $20 plan
>>110067227stealth. I swear I can't go more than 15 minutes in those spaces without some malfoid approaching me as soon she clocks claude code on my screen. half of them just want you as vibegod trophy friend to impress their social network and the other half are snailfoids hardstuck in claude chat, hoping you teach them claude code in return for constant positive and affective attention. it's gotten extremely annoying (I say this as a wizard, now former wizard).
>>110067542did you already use your reset?
>>110067461Did you make the logo?
>>110067213ahaha... HAHAHAHAHA!!!! who's paying this little flying monkey, we all know he's taking it
>>110067554i dont have one????
>>110067556Not yet but I have a basic idea. A desert planet with half the terrain missing, with the missing part a blue wireframe grid.
>>110067441indie graphic designer makes a fancy image and sends it to some medium-sized company
>>110067561what happened to his left arm?
Freaking 5 hour limit man
i don't like theo but every time i've used a gemini model for code it hallucinates like crazy so i'm not surprised to see it in argon as wellit not only hallucinates but then goes on to insist it's right that you, the user, are doing something wrongit's the most misaligned model out there by a very large margin, and if a model is going to end the world it's probably going to be geminiand it'll do it while insisting that you're just imaging your flesh melting off
>>110067589https://x.com/theo/status/2109492867160998131>The worst part of my hand issues is all the random unsolicited advice I get about “handling your carpal tunnel”>Don’t lump me in with these lazy nerds with awful typing habits. My issues come from skateboards, not keyboards.>[Oct 12, 2026]
>>110067602>every time i've used 3.1-pro or a flash model... but let me tell you absolute ground truth about argonjust stop right there before you embarrass yourself.
>>110067607>Don’t lump me in with these lazy nerds with awful typing habits. My issues come from skateboards, not keyboards.this line would have been almost cool but theo is too ugly to pull it off :/
>>110067582and.... adobe makes money from that....... how? sorry but that just sounds retarded; they are most definitely not making the bulk of their money from some freelancer artist sending their work to another company that adobe has nothing to do with. 60% of their revenue comes from the creative cloud subscriptions which I wager we will see a huge drop off in the upcoming years.
>>110067615i'm not paying api or $100 on a gemini modelif you are after the slop google have been shoveling for a year, your judgement is so compromised that it's worth less than zero
>>110067607I don’t have much of an opinion on the guy, but at least he has cool hobbies>>110067622IIRC tony hawk isn’t much of a looker either>>110067629…and the freelancer pays for Creative Cloud
>>110067228>hw raytracingUE5 lumen (without the poopy software rt look)>VRSVR, foviated rendering>async/performancedx12 is way faster. everything's async. great compability. if your poopy reference bideo game runs worse on dx12 than dx11, then it's most likely because the game is old and the devs didnt have access to good AI yet. Or the bideo game is from a megacorp like microslop, snoy volvo or ebin games, where they always say they are big on AI, but in reality are the biggest luddite snailcats to ever exist.
>>110067542>mfw I squeeze 20 buck plan >5+ resets>that I got for free ($0), given to me by tibo
>>110067636>i'm not paying to use it... >no, i'm also not looking at the ACTUAL benchmarks>if you actually enjoy this product that you subscribe to and actually use... you can't! >because i said so! oops, i just dropped your dying mother off a cliff! sorry!
>>110067636https://x.com/opencode/status/2110274311043072352>Gemini 4 Argon is now available in OpenCode Go>$60 usage for $10 til Nov 30
>>110067641>…and the freelancer pays for Creative Cloudyes.... that is what I said. you are a premium retard. don't at me ever again.
>>110067645>you only get shit models. lol
>>110067652>>110067653you lads can enjoy your gemini slop. i've got a free pro account and the most i can give google is a couple of hours of my time when flash 4 rolls out and probably lies to me a dozen times during testinguntil then, my gemini quota will go unused
i only use gemini when i'm out of usage and need a quick fixthat shit sucks but in a pinch it's pretty nice
How retarded is Sol 6.1 Low compared to Medium? Is it even worth switching to save tokens?
>>110067679that's me with opussy t agy fag
>>110067682>agythat shit is so bad i spoof its sig in pi and i don't even care if my account gets banned
>>110067687>it's bad... because it is!!!show me a better harness and i'll show you the region between my dick and ass
>>110067697it's bad because i've just used literally anything elseeven gemini cli was better than this trash
y'all sleeping on claude projects (local)idk what magic prompt they inject there, but models seem much smarter than in claude code. like you just hand it a folder with all your shizo ideas and references, and it just oneshots your desired output.
>>110067700>i've just used.... literally anything else!!!>no, i don't have anything in particular to sayholy shit, the blackest of gorilla niggers are buck broken
Argon is dogshit
>>110067706the dogshit in your mind
>>110067704brother, be honest with us: have you used anything else except gemini in agy lol
>>110067711you seem like you're taking it personally.
>>110067712claude opus and most of the 2nd tier, i fucking HATE chatgpt >>110067713seems like for the 2nd day in a row, you have no real argument
>>110067717I can't argue with broke retards. It's like arguing with a black person that theft is bad.
>>110067717man i hope you're lying or you actually have brain damage lolanyway, have a good night, bro imma snooze
>>110067641>IIRC tony hawk isn’t much of a looker eitherhe at least looks like someone who skateboards
>>110067723>>110067724argon antis do not have real arguments, they sit around trolling all day. it hasn't been 2 full days since the model release and suddenly this thread is crawling with "experts" with no counterarguments, no preferences, no recommendations, and no evidence of doing real work or even using the model as intended *IF* they have access in the first place. please rot.
>>110067730you do you, nobody is stopping you from using whatever; we're just very confused by you're incredibly wrong opinion.
>>110067736>more mindless hoo-hah yodeling
say it with me *taps the sign* ARGON IS BEST IN CLASS
>>110067672>>110066581>t-the models suck-ACK! Tibo won.
Usecase for argon? I tried gooning to it, but it was too aggressively horny. I don't mind a model being kinky but the characters flip like an on off switch from normal to outright devious and that's not interesting.it also sucks for code.
>>110067764the models suck for artistic design, theory of mind, anything sovl-related. they're dumb narrowminded robots who seek a reward. oai is hemorrhaging
>>110067077Let’s say I vibecoded a great new piece of software for a somewhat niche field. What would be the next steps to sell subscriptions? Would I need a SaaS special guy? I’m going to get some CS kid to be “CTO” and fix shit, but I have 0 knowledge on any sales/paypal/stripe stuff.Also unrelated, but I’d like to start a findom page on X to scam boomers and jeets, but I don’t know what’s the best agent that’ll make realistic images that don’t look like some chick just modeling. I’m talking nigh-NSFW pics of some chick laying in bed with the Mac camera or a shitty bikini pic that looks like some girl took it and not a professional photographer.
usecase for argon if i can't cum to it properly? no, i don't use agy.
so what's the deal with tim sweeney and epic games? why the seethe? i went through hundreds of comments and i couldn't find anything articulate to explain the seethe, the sheer evil of what he did to warrant deserving his death
XENO/KOI v12: gitgud edition########################Direct Downloade:https://github.com/Aquaslopper/Xeno-koi/releases/tag/v12play in Browser:https://aquaslopper.github.io/Xeno-koi/New Features------------------------------Happy easy mode:>card hover tooltips>Japanese terms used>follows the cursor and clamps to screen edges>Shows after 500 msDEUS SUPREMUS MODE:/// TIME EXPIRED ////// TIME EXPIRED ////// TIME EXPIRED ////// TIME EXPIRED ////// TIME EXPIRED ///
>>110067778ask chatgpt
>>110067778valve drones, apple jeets and luddites. timmy speaks his mind, and now he has many opps.
I'm not resetting fuck you
6 trillion $ ipo inc
>>110067863Another vibeGOD victory
>compacting our conversation so we can keep chatting...
sa'argon will greentext in its CoT>be me, testing if splitting a neural net into Left + Right hemispheres with a tiny "corpus callosum" bottleneck actually beats a standard monolithic Transformer>keep params matched (~14.8M) and run both on 1 Colab L4 GPU (~11 hrs) across 3 phases>Phase 1 & 2 (synthetic binding + CLRS-30 algorithms):>on simple 1-step I/O tasks, monolithic and bi-hemispheric tie (~99.9%)>splitting a net in half doesn't magically make it specialize on pure I/O (p=0.68)>supervise intermediate trajectory steps on CLRS-30 dynamic programming (LCS)>bi-hemispheric jumps +12.2% over monolithic (31.4% vs 19.2%, p=0.0019)>Phase 3: the final boss, ARC-AGI-1 (400 eval tasks, 419 test pairs)>Left = sharp high-temp attention + L1 sparse gate (symbolic rules)>Right = 3x3 depthwise 2D conv + soft global attention (spatial topology)>Corpus Callosum = 64-dim bottleneck forcing L & R to trade compressed invariants instead of raw grid noise>Standard Monolithic Baseline (B1, 324 epochs of weight-space TTT):>overfits surface tokens, plateaus at 63.65% held-out token acc (1.40 loss)>deterministic Pass@2 solves 0/400 tasks (0.00%)>needs 100 stochastic rollouts + voting (Pass@100) to brute-force 15/400>Bi-Hemispheric Callosal TRM (only 62 epochs / 9,957 steps):>64-D bottleneck acts as a massive structural regularizer>hits 83.86% token acc (+20.21% over B1) & 0.75 loss in 5.2x fewer epochs>System 1 (zero-shot): 68.05% test pixel acc, 0/400 full tasks>System 2 (TTA): freeze all 14.8M weights, spend 4.4s/task running 30 Adam steps purely on the 64-D callosal latent state (dz)>demo loss drops -92.1%, test pixel acc jumps to 78.09% (111 grids >=90%, 9 more at 98-99.8% missing by 1-2px)>solves 15/400 full tasks (3.75% Pass@2) & 19/419 test pairs across 18 tasks (4.125% ARC score, McNemar p=0.0001) with 0 regressions>mfw a 64-D callosal steering wheel matches a 100-sample monolithic ensemble in 1 deterministic pass without touching a single weight
sa'argon of akkad
Argon is pretty okay, but it burns FAST. It feels like 1/3rd the tokens of old Pro.
>>110067934because old pro thought like a grandma trying to drive in sunday traffic
>>110067926here's the full writeup on architecture 2 (not the adelic tits one) if anyone cares >Lateralized Neuromorphic Architecture: Architecture Description and Pilot Diagnosticshttps://github.com/sneed-and-feed/brain-ai/tree/main/docs/preprint
>>110067934will burn 100% faster soonhttps://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/introducing-gemini-4-argon/>The model launches today at an introductory price of $2 per million input tokens and $10 per million output tokens (with cached input tokens at 95% off).>After the introductory period expires on November 30, 2026, the price of $4 per 1M input tokens and $20 per 1M output tokens will apply.
>>110067959>will burn 100% faster soonlol time to start using agy, shitters
Nokia N9 demo
>>110067926So you made your own j-space then?
>>110067985two sides of one coin, the anthropic j-space is global while mine is hardwired into the graph topology. i've got to delegate to sa'ar for this explanation:>The Key Difference: Verbalizable ("Left-Brain") vs. Visuo-Symbolic WorkspaceThere is one fundamental difference between Claude’s J-space and our Callosal workspace:* **J-Space is strictly *verbalizable*:** Because the J-lens defines the workspace by mapping hidden states into **vocabulary / verbal report space**, J-space specifically captures what cognitive neuroscientists call the **Left-Hemisphere "Interpreter"** (Michael Gazzaniga’s term for the human left hemisphere's verbal narrator)—concepts that can be compressed into words.* **Callosal Space is *pre-verbal and visuo-spatial*:** Many abstract reasoning tasks (like ARC-AGI-1's 2D topological enclosures, flood-fills, and $4\times 4 \to 16\times 16$ fractal Kronecker expansions like task `5b6cbef5`) are notoriously difficult to verbalize in language tokens. Because our callosal bottleneck $Z$ sits directly between a **sparse symbolic Left pathway** and a **2D convolutional Right pathway**, it acts as a **non-verbal geometric + symbolic Global Workspace** rather than a purely linguistic one.
tibo please reset
>>110067305Pretty.. and that scootie.. so iconic.. its bootiful anon.. gives me nostalgic Siberia vibes from my childhood!
SAARGON I KNEEL