the kde login manger screen artifacts happened again

just came across a program that had separate executables for x11 and wayland
why dont app devs just do that instead of distros dictating one or the other?

>>110078846
>implying devs can manage to separate the two and can keep both updated at the same time

>>110078852
x11 doesnt update enough for that to be a real issue, just say youre lazy

Penis

>>110078842
Genuinely why the FUCK have they not fixed KDE Login Manager?
It's the single most buggiest Linux software ever made
Sometimes I can't even login because it thinks I typed the incorrect password

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>>110079273
I get the feeling that the KDE codebase is too much for KDE developers to manage. Imagine 30 years of legacy code across 6 major versions of the Qt library, all written in C++. Maybe KDE is really just the testing ground for Qt pretending to be a DE.

suggest me good music players with customisable ui. something like foobar but with linux support.

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>>110079376
fooyin? downloaded it a while back, but always go back to audacious, since i just put the same playlists in the background

>>110079376
Fooyin is the GOAT. Just gotta make sure to enable the legacy icon with the cool dragon/dynosaur.

>>110079454
so it's supposed to be a dragon. looks like a pissed off alien to me

>>110079478
Crocodile/reptile/angry alien/melted ice-cream.

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Does anyone actively rely on SELinux to prevent exploits and such? For example SELinux on Fedora helps prevent Podman (i.e. Docker) containers from exploiting each other. Is SELinux worth migrating to Fedora for?

>>110079504
put on the fedora bro, we need more tippers

>>110079504
Can't you just install SELinux on your current distro?

>>110079540
I can, but Fedora has a ton of pre-configured policy. This has to be manually done on other distros, not to mention relabelling the filesystem. Basically no sane person would do this.

>>110079504
I just use AppArmor which is simpler to configure without needing to switch to Fedora.

Docker has out-of-the-box support for it.

>>110078842
Just use greetd with tuigreet like a normal person

>>110079454
and how do I do that?

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my mutual 3inch RX 460 seems to have twice now seized up my entire DWM when watching YT videos for too long
did YT make their encodes heavier or something?

>>110079684
There's a setting in the options. If it doesn't work (didn't for me), you can find the icon somewhere in some github and add it somwewhere to your linux icons folders and set it from there.

>>110079685
What are you watching them in? It's far more likely to be a driver bug or issue with the player you're using?

>>110079662
Apparently AppArmor isn't as comprehensive as SELinux. For example it protects the host from Podman containers, but not the containers for each other.

>>110079762
I don't know if Podman has AppArmor integration or not but Docker does. It confines each container.

>>110079772
Fair enough but Podman is inherently more secure than Docker independent of SELinux/AppArmor. So I'm avoiding Docker.

>>110079780
How does Podman work with SELinux exactly, anyway? I imagine it needs privileges to modify the policy (same as Docker's AppArmor) so it's useless if running unprivileged anyway.

>>110079787
I have no idea. I'm trying to research this stuff now.

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>>110078666
Is it worth using non-LTS Ubuntu over LTS Ubuntu?

>>110080035
No. Always use the latest one for desktop use. If you need LTS for development then use containers.

>>110080047
>>110080035
Yes, I mean. I read that the wrong way round. It's worth using non-LTS over LTS.

You don't need long-term support and the latest version will have newer Mesa and better Wayland support, etc, all good stuff for a desktop.

If you have to ask, then you don't need LTS.

>>110080035
use Debian faggot!

>>110079685
prob

6.8 fucked up panels for me on multiple monitors.
For starters, the workaround I was using to put notifications on my second display (removing the notification icon from my primary display entirely) no longer works and I'm stuck with notifications on my main screen.
Secondly, hitting super doesn't open the menu on the focused screen anymore, and it's incredibly inconsistent with how it behaves when I try to fix it. At first I couldn't get it to open the menu on my MAIN screen at all, so I removed the panels on my other screens and readded them, then it stopped working on my third screen instead. Now I have it so it only ever opens on my main screen no matter where I'm focused, which is an improvement, I guess.

Cringe, and I hope they fix this in 6.8.1.

>>110083116
Just use Krunner instead of the kick-off menu.

>>110083226
I actually do (why does it use so much fucking ram btw). But it still annoys me to see this behavior if I knock super on its own.

>>110083255
I actually like that behaviour, I didn't even know it could show up on the focused monitor instead of the monitor with the panel. I like to have one monitor off to the side with my panel and none of my other two monitors have a panel.

My distro can now:
>build itself
>run docker
>run steam
>run cyberpunk 2077 via proton with good perf
>I develop it now on itself
I can just make changes, do a git push and then pull the changes with my package manager and upgrade to install them. :D I'd say the loop is closed now. I can rest in peace.

about to try to install gentoo
what are the things i will need to install/do in order to go from what i assume is going to be a minimal linux install to a proper full desktop experience

>>110084933
>Grab desktop stage3
>Enable the binary package binhost for faster installation (no need to compile absolutely everything unless you really want to):
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_Binary_Host_Quickstart
>Install plasma-meta to get KDE Plasma
>Enjoy

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I'm using Debian 13, why don't I have auto suspend any more?

>>110084933
>grab stage3 openrc desktop
>echo 'USE="X gtk -kde -qt6 -webegine -systemd"' >> /etc/portage/make.conf
>install xfce4

>>110085021
what did you update?

>>110085242
I just updated my system with sudo apt upgrade like normal...

>>110085255
so you updated from debian 12? gnome mightve moved the menu or gotten rid of the feature, i wouldnt know since i dont use it

installed new kernel and now steam games dont work at all. I press play and no windows popup.

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>>110085021
Probably dconf editor to fix it, just checked on spare nixos laptop and it had this

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>>110085345
Here's what I get. Nothing to go off of that I can see.

>>110085021
Maybe it's this bug?
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/work_items/3417

>>110085342
are you sure you copied your old config and adapted it to the new kernel version?

>>110085777
i typed sudo pacman -Syu and that's it.

>>110085310
No, I didn't update from Debian 12. I've been running Debian 13 for a while now.
>>110085736
I used to have this issue before and it got fixed with an update, but now it's back. I'm not even in the EU, so this feels weird.

>>110078842
small update. it's not the login manager. it also happened after i switched monitor inputs. it's something with the connection or the handshake between the gpu and monitor. unplug and replug doesn't work if it is too fast. i have to wait a few seconds.

anyone with steam overlay crashing on cachyos? started happening after an update yesterday. no matter the distro it crashes games after a bit of alt-tabbing.

>>110078666
what you're refetning to as linux, is in fact, bugs/linux, or as iv'e recently taken to caling it, shit. linux is not an operating system.

many computer users run a modifiesd version of the gnu system avertyday withut realizing it, and they're all gay lolololololololoolol.

thorugh a peculiar tune of eevnets, the verison of gnu which is widely sued today is oftne called "linux," an dmany of its users are not getting laid xDDDDDDDD

there ereally is a linxu, and these people are using it, but it is just shitty looooooooool

linux is the kernel: the perogram in the sytem that allocates the mahcines resources towards crahshing xDDDDD

the kernel is an esential part of an aperating styem, but useless by itself. it's also uselees when it's not by itself because linux sucks amirite.

linux is normally used in comibnation with no drivers, becaue linux has no drivers. (amirite guiz)

all the so-callled "linxu" distributions are really bad

>>110085850
Learn to use strace. Open gnome-control-center with it. See what it's complaining about. Or just run gnome-control-center from a terminal and maybe you will get lucky and it will spit the problem when you access power settings.

anyone know any good lightweight manga/comic book readers

>>110087606
mupdf

>>110086766
I bet that sounded hilarious in your head.

>>110087606
idk about good, but mcomix3 is the one I settled on

>>110085785
It's not likely because of the kernel update, it's something else.
>>110084933
What are your current skills? I mean I already compiled my own kernels and managed the whole boot process and I already knew how to perform manual installations so installing Gentoo was merely about extracting the Stage3 archive to a vacant partition.
(still using Gentoo like a retard while barely understanding USE flags)

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>>110089225

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In a bit of a pickle. I tried installing cachyos on my rog ally, but somewhere along the line it failed and left me with a borked install that can't boot. The bios is locked and I forgot the password, so the only way I was able to boot into the live usb was by using windows recovery features. Now I can't change the boot order. I think I need to remove the internal ssd from my rog ally, and use a live usb to wipe it. From there I should be able to try installing again. This raises a few questions
Can I install cachyos while the ssd is in an external enclosure, and then put it back in the Ally. What would I.need to change on the install before putting it back in? I assume there's probably some config somewhere that I would need to change
/dev/sda to /dev/nvme, but where?
>inb4 give it back tyrone
See picrel, I bought it from a third party seller, so I have a feeling it was really slightly used when I got it

>>110078666
https://parallel-minds0.github.io/An-Open-Letter-on-Linux-Compatibility/

See section #The organization behind it

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>>110089549
>An-Open-Letter-on-Linux-Compatibility/
>it sucks and nobody cares
>bottom text

>>110089549
The lack of backcompat is why Linux is so fast. I don't want 99 gorillion gigabytes worth of runtimes and compatibility layers hogging up my RAM.

>>110089715
The core is intentionally small. Under 50K LoC in total. That's the entire planned userspace plus the abstracted API. The entirety of it would be less than glibc alone.

>>110089739
Wouldn't applications still need to install the needed dependencies?

>>110089747
Yes, but applications would include their own dependencies that are relative to them. Nothing from the userspace would be included. So the base OS is stable.

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>>110089549
TL;DR for /g/

Linux doesn't have a technical problem, it has a management problem. Every part that works (kernel, Mesa, Android, the Deck) works because a company pays people to do the boring work, and every part that's a mess is a volunteer hoping glibc doesn't change this week. So the fix is obvious: a dozen or so small companies of five-ish people each, all sharing one tiny core with a stable API and a ten-year compatibility promise, each selling a brandable OS to hardware makers who need one but don't want to be OS businesses. Windows apps and Android run through Wine and Waydroid sitting next to the core, security wrappers know which subsystem each binary belongs to, and the whole thing stays small enough that five people can actually maintain it. I wrote it all down, the design is done enough to argue about, and there's exactly one problem left: somebody has to actually start the first company. That somebody isn't me. I'll gladly keep presenting ideas and solutions, but I don't want the responsibility of running a company, and the whole plan dies at step one unless a real company gets made and made to work. So if you're a founder with a hardware idea and an OS headache, or you just want to be the guy who built the Red Hat for people who play games and use laptops, step up. Otherwise enjoy dual booting.

There is much more to it, but this is the best TL;DR with some compromise on detail. Read the actual article for proper detail.

>>110089758
Yeah but I want to be able to share the libraries and such that are already running on my system. That's why I like Linux

>>110090017
You can share the entire OS image as a snapshot

on xfce do you recommend to disable xfce vsync and use xorg tear free?

any good minimal terminal file explorer?

>>110090250
Why? The whole ass point of file explorers is to deal with media like images and videos and music.

>>110090250
cd and ls

>>110090313
can't view pictures

>>110090346
Dolphin

>>110090346
bloat

>>110090250
yazi

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they fucked up the tab cycling logic on Vivaldi or something
made this one command chain that searches a bunch of sites on new tabs after the active tab, but if you returned to the same active tab and searched something else, the 2nd wave of tabs neatly opens past the 1st wave
now all the new options will either open the 2nd wave after the 1st wave, or will open those forced new tabs right at the end of a 40 tab chain

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i think people who use vivaldi aren't human. i don't feel sorry for non humans.

>>110090574
This but le. brave shill lion

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>>110090576
they are below human. those are actually subhumans. not even people in a sense.

>>110089225
I'm not skilled, debian and windows are the only OS I've successfully installed
I can use the terminal for very easy things but that's about it

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>>110090250
>>110090346
>terminal
>pictures
>>110090693
IMO when doing the whole installation using basic terminal tools the hard part is the boot process, the thing that involves hardware related tricks + whatever nonsense your bootloader does (you can pick between GRUB, LiLo and systemd-boot (or picrel if you are hackerman enough)).
The rest is all easy: partition a drive, make up a filesystem and pour a Linux system in that filesystem.

Which desktop environment should I use if I want to access a linux system regularly with remote desktop from an android device?
Is unity with it's touch design actually the answer here? Or does KDE do the trick well enough?

I'm in charge of printing all the notation for my orchestra and by now most of our stuff has been digitized by me. But I'm becoming to lazy to get up every time someone is missing something and I want to just use my tablet to use the xerox workcenter in the next room.
Printing from android is insanely ass and ubuntu works right out the box for the printer drivers so I want to keep working with that.
Alternative suggestions are welcome. No I won't just use terminal and ssh because others will have to do it too when I'm not around.

>>110090753
Use limine, it's comfy.
https://github.com/limine-bootloader/limine
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Limine

>ask clanker when fedora 45 is releasing
>"current release target is october 20"
>"next meeting that will decide whether the project is ready for release is on october 22"
Superintelligence indeed

>>110091231
Looking forward to GNOME 51. Apparently the animations get even smoother. Not sure how this is even possible as they have been insanely smooth since GNOME 48 introduced triple buffering.

>>110090250
ranger
yazi exists too but ranger is cooler

>>110091231
I mean it's not wrong. That is the release target, they missed it.

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gpu-screen-recorder-ui is fucking with my xkb control after starting instant replays anyone know what that's about? have to run xset each time I want to record without a shell script

>>110091231
Your LLM is cooked. Gemini shows the current release target as October 27.

>>110091352
Really? Shit's kinda laggy for me, maybe because I have a 4k panel

>>110091352
Every compositor that isn't written in fucking javascript has smoother animations

>>110091396
Maybe. This is a 2019 laptop with Intel graphics and a HiDPI display.
>>110091423
Mutter is written in C. You might be thinking of GNOME Shell which is indeed written in JS.

@gork why should i updoot to new release when everything works fine atm

rust wonned bigly
SI wonned tremendously

how is plasma 6.8?
buggy?

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>>110092109
Works fine.

>>110083116
Ok, turns out this fucked behavior is because it thought the panels on displays where the super key wouldn't open the menu were actually on a different display. In my final setup, only the main display had a working super key, and after reboot... the other two displays lost their panel.
Where could they be? You ask. Well when I went to edit the remaining panel, the other two appeared stacked on top of it in the edit space (I assume they were stacking outside of the edit space).
FORTUNATELY clicking on them and changing their position back to the other displays has fixed all the behavior and everything is working again... For now.

What the fuck.

>>110092109
>>110092170
Did they ever fix KDE Login screen making correct passwords incorrect?

>>110092503
Yeah it's fixed by removing the dried precum and cheeto dust from your keyboard. I could barely log in and was forced to clean my keyboard for the first time in 6 years, what a fucking charade. This is why I'm moving to GNOME btw

>>110092503
Nope, Plasma Login Manager is fucking dogshit that drags down a great DE like KDE

>>110092503
>>110092623
Plasma Login Manager works fine, literally never had a single issue with it. Having said that, you can always replace it with SDDM or even go without a Display Manager entirely (My laptop running KDE Linux has a display manager but my desktop running Gentoo doesn't) if you're not happy with it.

>No AI / no LLMs for translation. Communication in English is preferred, but you're welcome to write in your native language and rely on others to translate your text with their own tools
Okay, surely this is just contrarianism

>>110092715
Personally I see zero purpose in a display manager, you don't even need it to lock the session.
I just have this in my ~/.zprofile

# If running from tty1 start Plasma
[ "$(tty)" = "/dev/tty1" ] && /usr/lib/plasma-dbus-run-session-if-needed /usr/bin/startplasma-wayland && exit

In both cases all that happens when I boot is I put in my login details and press enter, I see no point in adding a layer of problems to the process.

>>110093444
Same. It makes a bit more sense on my laptop since I do usually boot straight into the desktop environment, but on my desktop sometimes I won't even boot into KDE and will just leave tmux or whatever running in the tty.

thoughts on alternative android forks for mah phone? all this grapheneos that, postmarketos, which of them lets me use whatsapp (spyware) and banking stuff?

>>110094339
Sounds good until you want NFS payments with Google Wallet and realise you can't do that without stock firmware.

I really liked the clean look of Graphene and it also felt more performant too but had a re-flash the Pixel OS back

>>110094339
I wonder if there's a bootloader that would let you pick which OS your phone boots to, that way you don't lose your stock BS but you could goof around with this and that.

>>110094371
Losing your stock ROM is less of an issue than that. You can just re-flash it again.

>>110094339
Depends on if your phone has a rom for it in the first place. Most of those proprietary spyware require gapps (though i don't think whatsapp does).

>>110091438
NTA but whats the difference between gnome shell and mutter?

>>110095252
GNOME Shell runs inside of Mutter.

GNOME Shell is the actual desktop shell (the clue is in the name)
Mutter is the compositing window manager, or compositor for short

>>110095277
So mutter handles the animations and rendering, gnome shell handles stuff like the panel and menus?

>>110095325
Yes, although there's not a clean separation between them. They are separate but GNOME Shell is still running in the same process space as Mutter and a crash in the desktop panel / shell can takedown Mutter with it.

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>>110078666
What KDE menu options can eliminate "slight static" from my headphones when they are plugged into the computer but somehow not there when plugged into my old fifine microphone?
Somehow the plugging of the headphones into the mic makes things worse for the mic and I always hear the noise of typing and even the PC humming.

I've got a weird headphone "slight static" problem.
It isn't loud. It is "there." And I feel like there is an "off switch" in the KDE plasma menu. So what is the menu option to turn it off to hopefully eliminate the static?

CachyOS Kde plasma
OneOdio Pro 10 Wired headphones.

I want to eliminate the variable of this being a software issue first before looking for something to fix my PC if it has problems.

>>110097736
do you have second pair of headphones to test it with?

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>>110078666
Alright, I have two dumb questions, been on Fedora Atomic for about a month now and keep having these two issues. I've looked into trying to fix them but can't find a definitive answer poking around forums.

1. Whenever I reboot, my main media drive unmounts. This makes sense as it's the default. I have my main boot drive and then a 8TB HDD for media. How do I set it to automount on reboot? All instructions I find are about automounting a main drive or partition or whatever, not a secondary drive.

2. When my monitor dims out to black, it won't come back. (I'm using KDE). I end up having to reboot. It comes back fine from a full sleep or if I shake the mouse fast, but if it's in the "dim monitor" phase I'm just fucked and have to reboot. I have it set to not dim automatically, but is there a way to use the screen turn-off without turning it off or what?

>>110078842
Which artifacts? Do you mean where it doubles up the clock and login prompts? That's been happening to me but is apparently a symptom of using multi-monitor setup unless you mean something else.

>>110098775
>Whenever I reboot, my main media drive unmounts. This makes sense as it's the default. I have my main boot drive and then a 8TB HDD for media. How do I set it to automount on reboot? All instructions I find are about automounting a main drive or partition or whatever, not a secondary drive.
How exactly are you mounting it in the first place? I haven't used atomic, but if it allows you to persistently modify /etc/fstab, then that'll be the way.

Idk why your dpms is failing to trigger back on, it works for me under Cachy with KDE 6.7 (now 6.8 actually).

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>>110078666
Icecat updated to version 153 and now it's creating a "mozilla/icecat" directory in my home for some stupid reason, it's completely empty btw. And no, that's not where it stores its data, that would still be ".mozilla/icecat". So now I have 2 (two, dos) stupid mozilla directories polluting my home dir. Is there anything I can do to fix it?
>inb4 still another browser

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>>110098775
>Which artifacts?
these ones but i noticed that it also happens when moving monitor inputs and back sometimes. so it's not the login manger itself.

>>110098879
>/ldg/
Retard.

>>110098867
Shit, I realize now I worded it poorly the first time. My boot drive is fine. My second drive that I keep images, music, etc. on shuts off access every time. To "remount" it I just go into Dolphin, click it, enter my password, and it becomes accessible again. That's all. So I don't know if that counts as a "mount" or how to not require that, but that's the issue. It's where I keep my desktop images so that's the annoying part on restarts, kek, especially since I'm still doing a lot of them lately, but yeah.

>>110098879
Fuck you, man.

>>110098919
Oh, shit, haven't hit that yet, that's odd.

>>110098972
Ok so when you use dolphin to mount a device it does so (usually) in a user owned temporary location, /run/media/$USER/<Label>
This is not intended to be persistent, so it's not surprising that it's no longer mounted on boot.

You need to set it to mount on boot. There are multiple ways to do this.
The first and most classic is editing /etc/fstab, creating an entry that lists the device UUID, location to mount, options etc. You'll likely find your main/system/root partition listed in there already.
The second is doing pretty much the same thing but using a systemd service (a systemd service pretty much reads /etc/fstab on boot and converts it into these services for legacy support).
The third I have no experience with at all, but KDE Partition Manager allows you to edit a mount point for a partition. I do NOT know how it does this and I'm not testing it, maybe it writes a new line to /etc/fstab? Maybe it makes a service, or maybe it does something else, I have no idea look it up. If you do choose to do it this way, probably best to unmount it through Dolphin first.

>>110098972
>>110099067
You may want to read over https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Fstab and or https://wiki.cachyos.org/configuration/automount_with_fstab/

I know this is for Arch based systems, but it would be true of any normal Linux system. Surely Fedora Atomic does not make /etc/ configuration files completely immutable right? (How the fuck would you configure anything).

>>110099067
>>110099129
Fucking hell, thank you, anons. That perfectly explains that and pointed me in the right direction, this should be an easy setup now. I've danced around this with commands and drive identification, I just took the easy way out with Dolphin and missed the fstab edit. This'll be it.

I thought it was fucking weird everyone would constantly be dealing with "db1035iu489hd9hf19" or whatever as a location instead of routing through an "sdb", explains a few other issues I've had on trying to point to a directory. Legitimately thank you.

>>110099160
UUIDs are preferred when defining mounts over fixed device paths like /dev/sdb because those CAN change (for example if you swapped sata ports on disks, or something in the kernel changed the order in which devices were read). UUIDs will never change, so should be used over /dev/sdX.

>>110099199
Also a fair note, thank you for the info, I just meant more that that seemed a normal path instead of whatever randomly generated long-text version

>>110098882
You can use a ".hidden" file that lists files and folders you don't want to show up in your file manager.

>>110098882
Could be the "download" directory. If you download a file is the default set there?

Newish to linux, am I schizo for getting sketched out by Yazi, the terminal file manager thing? idk how to explain it, it's like, so extremely well polished, popular and out of nowhere, it's not really a tool anyone NEEDS that seems life changing yet everyone seemingly has it installed, it's rust and it's chinese. Again I really do not have a way of explaining it it just seems out of place with the rest of linux and the tools I'm seeing. Maybe it's not even chinese just themed as so but I know hauiwei however it's spelled steals all your shizznit apparently along with the old opera browser. Yazi just seems like an industry plant thing

>>110099802
Well for an industry plant it sure is fucking good.

>>110099808
too good. too... good...

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install linux mint

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Will it be good?

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>I just want a reliable, safe distribution that works that has better performance and hardware overhead than Windows.
>Still can't find one.
>Every time I install linux, I use it for a few months, then there's a fucking update that breaks everything, or the window manager stops working, or a config breaks
>Every fucking time

I really, really want to use Linux but fuck me, why do they make it so hard? I'm not completely retarded, I provide Tier 3 support, but after working 40 hours a week fixing broken shit for work, the last thing I want to do is sit down after a long shower and say "Okay, so lets spend an hour figuring out why the fucking standby setting shits itself and dies"

Can anyone just recommend a distro for someone who wants to use Linux on their personal machine and doesn't want to spend hours every month screwing with it? I just want to watch movies, browse the internet and play old PS2 games via emulation. I don't ask for much.

>>110099956
if they look after it maybe.

Installed Fedora on Monday but I'm already wondering if I should just switch to Arch.

>>110099960
tldr. install fedora.

>>110099965
Arch feels more free then Fedora IMO, mainly because it isn't constantly trying to nanny you into being safe.

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>>110099960
though I initially had to fuck with it for a few weeks, I find that I've gotten raped less with LTS
even allowed me to dodge the whole Arch package infiltration arch

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>>110094339
What goes for GrapheneOS: WhatsApp doesn't really require anything, IIRC not even Google Services. And from my experience banking apps aren't sensitive either, they could possibly check whether the system is rooted or not but they do work with custom ROMs.
>>110092109
Booted it a minute ago and immediately got a Baloo crash notification.

>>110099960
you genuinely have to be doing something wrong for all your installs to break after a few months

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how do I kill password prompts for good on mint? (the system prompts not login)
tried sudo visudo and adding
anon ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL at the very end
it didn't do shit
>but it is not secure
it doesn't connect to internetz
>this is antithetical to Linux philosophy
I don't care

>>110099916
I'll wait until LM 27 is out to test their "stable" wayland support.

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>>110100085
You can Sudo with security keys. IDK how to set one up for generic use like logins but Sudo does indeed support them.

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>>110100079
Seriously no. It'll either be an update that fucks it, or I'll just start it up one day and boom, fucked. It's exhausting. If Linux EVER managed to get the same stability as modern windows OS it'd wipe out Microsofts share of the desktop OS market in a decade, but right now people like me who have a clue but don't want to spend hours reading logs to find out what fucked up just relent and go back to Windows because I know unless the update is truly fucking disastrous, the machine will boot into the window manager and everything will work.

I have even less time for fucking around thesr days with a wife and kid demanding a lot of attention. Getting Jellyfin installed and set up on an old laptop running Debian 12 was a 4 weekend affair, and I've not touched it since. set up the browser based FS manager, switched off all of the auto-update functions and power management facilities and just have it sitting under the stairs next to the NAS box and silently pray that it doesn't decide to shit the bed because my wife loves it.

>>110100079
he posts anime. skill issue is part of his personality.

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>>110100113
I don't want to use dongles I just want to kill password prompts on the software level

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can i encrypt the efi partition with LUNK? im following gentoo wiki on setting up zfs rootfs with LUNK and they only encrypt the root.

>>110100323
LUKS*

When I open a file in MPV from Dolphin, it doesn't open in the center of the screen. Is KDE just fucked? I did try looking it up before asking.

>>110100349
mine does.

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>>110100355
>very helpful answer
I disabled my mpv.conf and it suddenly works so actually thank you that does confirm it's my own fuckup and I'll look into it. I should have done that sooner.

>>110100323
No, the EFI system partition has to be plain VFAT, the firmware has to be able to read it. If you want extra tinfoil you can use Secure Boot for validating your whatever bootloader.
>root on an encrypted ZFS pool
Hope you can make it work, I personally hate complicated boot processes.
t. plain EXT4 root

>>110100323
better off using native ZFS encryption, ZFSBootMenu makes it easier than whatever you're trying to do
>encrypt the efi partition
forwhatpvrpose.gif

>>110100381
>>110100408
i see. thanks

>>110099960
why are you updating if everything works?
literally stop updating.

if you have to, 'downgrade' on arch can be a useful utility, where you can easily install older versions of software.

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>>110099956
ENTER
https://blogs.gnome.org/adrianvovk/2026/10/16/gnome-os-preview/

>>110099956
Waste of resources.

>>110100638
Is the tour still retarded?

>>110100969
The tour is great for newcomers. Pretty, concise, and covers the absolute basics of the desktop. What else could you want?

anyone still using xfce?

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Question, I picked up a thinkpad p1 gen 4 with an i7 11850H and an rtx 3080, got a killer deal on it($600), but I haven’t used Nvidia on Linux in years. Are the drivers still total dogshit or did they finally fix it? Should I use one of those gaymer distros with the drivers baked in like cachyos or can I use whatever I want?

>>110101107
Dunno, I have Intel. But don't use Debian (not even Sid) unless you use the official NVIDIA deb repo as the native Debian drivers are woefully out of date. Fedora has NVIDIA drivers in RPM Fusion. That's all I know.

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>>110099956
Yes.
I'm not sure I'd want it on my desktop. I'm happy with my Gentoo system there but on my laptop it's been perfect.

I build my own image with some modifications for my own use but I really like what they've built.

The Systemd sysupdate stuff is very well thought out too, despite me not being the biggest fan of Systemd the work they've done on that is excellent.

At some point, I think I'd like to see if I can build my own Gentoo system image that can be updated and deployed this way (erofs for the read-only root filesystem with everything in /usr) because I've not seen anyone do that yet.

>>110100060
baloo constantly crashing is a confirmed bug
we will when they release the fix

>>110097736
Plug the headphones into the front of your pc instead of the back, the humming is interference from the motherboard i think.

>>110098775
>1.
You just need to add an entry for it in /etc/fstab
>2.
Nvidia? i used to have this issue on nvidia with x11 but i'm guessing you're not using x11 on kde.

>>110100408
It used to be recommended to use luks over zfs' native encryption. Even the freebsd installer uses their own native encryption (geli or geom whatever its called) over the one for zfs.

what you're refetning to as linux, is in fact, bugs/linux, or as iv'e recently taken to caling it, shit. linux is not an operating system.

many computer users run a modifiesd version of the gnu system avertyday withut realizing it, and they're all gay lolololololololoolol.

thorugh a peculiar tune of eevnets, the verison of gnu which is widely sued today is oftne called "linux," an dmany of its users are not getting laid xDDDDDDDD

there ereally is a linxu, and these people are using it, but it is just shitty looooooooool

linux is the kernel: the perogram in the sytem that allocates the mahcines resources towards crahshing xDDDDD

the kernel is an esential part of an aperating styem, but useless by itself. it's also uselees when it's not by itself because linux sucks amirite.

linux is normally used in comibnation with no drivers, becaue linux has no drivers. (amirite guiz)

all the so-callled "linxu" distributions are really bad

Can I recreate a SystemD free Linux MInt like just on Arch Linux I'm sort of a noob when it comes to desktops

>>110101407
Install Cinnamon on Artix

>>110101407
mx linux is basically the non systemd mint, but it doesnt have cinnamon

installed brasero on fedora and it installed gnome CD master thing alongside it, not sure which package it is, seems like it's included with brasero, such an annoying thing when extra bloat is forced on you.

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fresh install of kali, my terminal isn't giving me ghost suggestions based on previous commands. what do? having to enter all my usual flags manually is mad annoying.

>>110101812
why are you on fedora if you dont want bloat?

>>110098087
I'll see if my old pair still work.
>>110101327
They are plugged in the front.

>>110079676
Based, this is what I use

>>110079504
Bottom right is clearly the best of those logos

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Why did Gentoo move away from Github again? Codeberg is literally unusable.

>Let's go find some pull request I know is there somewhere
>Fuck you, NO YOU CANNOT CLICK THE NEXT PAGE BUTTON

>>110102748
Codeberg is trash. The only things worth hosting on are github, gitlab, or gitlab.freedesktop. OR a self hosted git of some kind.

They probably moved for gay political reasons.

>>110102771
It was because of the AI explosion of slop. I get it, Codeberg is less likely to be affected by that but come on, I'm not asking for much to be able to browse the list of pull requests.

I don't care if search is broken, but not being able to use pagination is fucking ridiculous.

Anyway, I found what I was looking for by going via the users profile page.

There should be an external search or index somewhere if Codeberg can't be bothered to do it themselves.

>>110102748
Codeberg is unusable because of ai scrapers
>Why did Gentoo move away from Github again?
The github repo was just a mirror
>>110102771
>github
Microslop owned
>gitlab
Cloudflare owned
>gitlab.freedesktop
Tranny owned
>OR a self hosted git of some kind.
Yes.

>>110103287
>>github
>Microslop owned
>>gitlab
>Cloudflare owned
>>gitlab.freedesktop
>Tranny owned
Yes but they actually stay online.

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>>110103287
>>Why did Gentoo move away from Github again?
>The github repo was just a mirror
They use it for pull requests which is useful if you're trying to find such a thing.

I was looking for the ntpd-rs pull request to migrate away from the ntpd daemon since that's deprecated now. Hopefully it gets merged soon.

https://codeberg.org/gentoo/gentoo/pulls/497

>>110102659
The humming (I assume it is very loud) is more than likely a grounding/electrical issue. This isn't uncommon.

>>110079273
isn't it in the middle of a massive rewrite?

>>110104840
I have the humming right now.
>grounding/electrical issue
So what's the solution at this point? If that is the case?
I saw adapters that can convert digital to analog sound, but I'm not sure if that will help.

>>110102014
what bloat do you think fedora comes with? it's pretty sane overall.

>>110102748
>>110102771
codeberg has the best UI

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He sounds a little like Kermit the frog. Kind of wholesome. Better than Tutorials by Rajeet.

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what is the point then?

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I ran Arch for half of last year and had a pretty good time with it but ended up being unable to find a remote desktopping solution which met my specific needs so I ended up back on Windows. KDE's new exclusive whatever mode in their RDP seems like it might fix that. Is it possible to test this on a live CD? I asked my slopbot and it said no, I'd run into issues due to exclusive mode locking the screen on a passwordless live cd account but that doesn't seem right to me, hoping for a second opinion.
If it will work, does it matter which distro I pick? Or will they all have the latest KDE?

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>>110105733
I find his deadpan fake enthusiasm funny

>>110097736

possibly audio mixer audio inputs device monitoring input setting

>>110101407

openmandriva might be there

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>>110100085
Has to be a group:

%anon ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
%wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
%sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL

pick one or all, I'm not your dad

Also there is this project to add a PIN unlock
>https://github.com/saltnpepper97/pam_pinlock
you'd only want to config /etc/pam.d/sudo if you did. Otherwise "system-wide" means even SSH can PIN unlock (retarded and potentially vulnerable)

>>110090250
I like using commander designs for tty.
Using midnight-commander

>>110105733
He think he has autism, he speaks in a very monotonous way.

Debian 13 or Fedora 44?

>>110106532
Debian is never the correct answer unless the question is what can I run on this shitty SBC

>>110106532
debian

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>>110106593
>>110106616

>>110106532
just use fedora.

>>110102659
nta, but try to plug it in the back then
on some (cheaper) cases frontal lines can be prone to noise (longer lines generally are i think)

>>110106532
In my experience fedora tends to have more hardware support out the box and it's probably what you want.

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>>110106666
Tried that.
I'm gonna see about the nuclear option of getting converters.
I need stuff for my 3D printer set up anyway.

Speaking of 3D printing. I was looking at "pin up miniatures" and it led to a long porn session. I'm using cachyOS. With an adblock.
I am going to update my PC and use the Hello! reinstall packages feature and going to clear my cookies.
Hopefully I didn't install any malware that was vibecoded for Linux.
If I did what are the signs that I have giving my PC AIDSware and what can I realistically do?

>>110106739
I read debian KDE comes with all the bloatware, holy trash, guess it will be fedora.

>>110097736
Its a hardware problem being brought to light because of a software problem. Your OS is sending a 'silent' wave to keep the sound interface from going to sleep BUT the hardware is dying and produces sound when the interface is active.

anyone here plays android games on waydroid?

>>110080035
There's no real reason to use nonLTS ubuntu. If you're considering nonLTS, switch to a rolling release and get rid of the headache of dealing with a dist-upgrade every 9 months.

>>110106081
Please respond anons. Leaning towards Fedora since it's the mainstream distro I'm least familiar with

>>110107133
>>110106631

>>110107133
yeah try fedora. There's live CDs for it so you can try it first

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>>110107153
>>110107194
Easy. Thanks

>>110107012
I'm not sure what you mean and I'm not sure if you're trolling me. But realistically how does one check in and tell? My buddies said my PC is fine when they tested it.
I am a bit of a techlet sometimes.
I can't really afford much at the moment as all the PC related things are overpriced nowadays due to shortages and AI tech companies doing their thing.

Could still use some advice for this post too. >>110106757

do you have any issues with notifications on plasma 6.8?

noob question but do people in debian use flatpaks for everything or do they simply not care about using old software?

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inssssssstall opensssssssssussssssse anon...

>>110107926
A lot of it is the latter but if you use debian stable you do have Flatpaks, AppImages, Nix, and Guix for newer software if you want.

If it's only specific packages you can also install newer versions from debian backports. But it's not recommended to do too much because it can potentially break things from conflicting dependencies.

And lastly you do have the option to build the software yourself if you don't mind that.

Zenless Zone Zero running like shit on proton since the last update.

>/boot is too small, needs to resize
>need to `sudo dnf config-manager setopt rpmfusion-nonfree-updates.enabled=0` before updates, then try to update nonfree on its own half a dozen times cause one host in particular shits the bed and there's no way to turn it off permanently
>the regression where desktop input stops working happened for the second time
fucks sake I had fedora installed for barely a year and its already starting to annoy me with random bullshit

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>>110100323
>encrypt the efi partition
Better off using secure boot.

>>110108702
It always kinda runs like shit tho..

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>>110098775

>>110079335
Trinity forever :P

>>110079762
buy an ad, it you are not trolling your choice is pretty clear...

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>>110107966
But what replaces Packman? I don't like Flatpak much.
>>110109101
It's ancient and not packaged by default in any distro worth using.
>>110109111
How is that a troll? It's true.

>>110090346
>>terminal file viewer
>> cs and ls
>>can't view pictures
>$ gpicview my_fetish.png
you stupid lazy ass

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how do I regain the urge to waste time and distro hop? ever since I switched to arch years ago I have just stuck with arch but I used to love wasting time distro hopping and setting everything up but now it just seems pointless and stupid. should I buy an old laptop or what. I see people distro hopping and wasting time and saying their shitty distro is based and I'm just jealous. comparison is the thief of joy

how do I installs the Hyprland operating system

>>110109185
Install Gentoo.

>>110105137
You can try putting those things called ferrite beads around the cable to see if it helps

>>110106081
>remote desktopping solution
Sunshine and Moonlight
Otherwise you could try xrdp.

>>110107926
It depends on the software. There's also some third party apt repos for specific software that stays up to date.

is it possible to run waydroid on x11 desktops?

is reboot different from shutdown? i noticed my system was getting very slow, laggy, rebooted and nothing worked, fully shat down and reopened and its suddenly fine again

>>110078666
I'm using fedora (gnome) on my work laptop and am recently having intrusive thoughts about installing Sway as well. Is it worth it or are twms just a meme?

>>110109846
I tried i3 and I wasn't about that life; Lots of keybinds to memorize

>>110109779
Yes. The hardware/firmware is already initialised on reboot, but happens fresh on cold boot.
>>110109846
>Is it worth it
Nope.

>>110109846
there are benefits in both. I switched back to gnome after few months since it already covers 95% of my tiling needs, and tabbing between apps and windows is fast enough
but there definitely is value in having super fast switching to workspaces, and access terminals, if that's something you like

>>110109880
like most things in life, you only really need 5-10% to get 90% of the experience. most of the hassle is about configuring it to have things like copy & paste, and file manager etc.

>>110109980
That's fair enough; I mostly just use my PC for web browsing and encoding movies for my jellyfin server, so it's really not worth it to me. I was going to put it on an old ass laptop for my uncle, but he's dumb as a stump, so i just gave him lxqt and pinned firefox for him.

>>110109880
>>110109980
Yeah, makes sense anons, thanks. I'll stick to gnome on the work laptop as it covers my needs (email, browser, office apps) and install i3/sway on the shitpad at home to tinker with it.

i wish every new kde release wasnt buggy as fuck

>>110099960
>then there's a fucking update that breaks everything
Literally never had this happen after 2004
Is this a pasta?

>>110110088
Yeah, we all do. KDE died with version 3, although the later versions of 4 were somewhat nice.

>>110109485
Download Hyprland and install it.

FUCK OMARCHY

>>110110682
dilate harder

>>110110682
you lost trans

>>110109573
Thanks!
I'll try for the digital to analog sound converter first.

>>110108812
>>110100408
>Better off
There's no "better off", you can't encrypt the EFI system partition. It just doesn't work like that.
>>110108708
Remove old kernels and initramfs images.

>>110110867
>There's no "better off", you can't encrypt the EFI system partition. It just doesn't work like that.
You can do whatever the fuck you want in a chroot'd system

>>110110867
Why do you need to encrypt your Linux kernel? We all know what the Linux kernel looks like.

If you really wanted to do that you could write a minimal initramfs that decrypts the real place where your kernel is and then kexec into it but what is your end goal?

Ultimately, something has to be unencrypted because the UEFI firmware isn't capable of decrypting on its own.

>>110110939
>Why do you need to encrypt your Linux kernel? We all know what the Linux kernel looks like.
I wouldn't know and have no opinion on it.
>If you really wanted to do that you could write a minimal initramfs that decrypts the real place where your kernel is and then kexec into it but what is your end goal?
I personally don't have any end goal here, just trying to teach /fglt/ on hardware specific boot processes.
>Ultimately, something has to be unencrypted because the UEFI firmware isn't capable of decrypting on its own.
Yes, that's why you can't encrypt the EFI system partition. The whole process starts with the firmware loading up an EFI executable from the VFAT partition.
>>110110916
ok??

>>110110962
Fair enough, I guess you were just replying to the other guy.

I see this come up all the time now and again some "smart" guy comes up and says they NEED their boot encrypted.

They can never give a good reason why though. Just signing / measured boot alone is enough to detect tampering.

CachyOS as a daily driver...yay or nay?

>>110111019
I've never used it. I have fedora on my desktop and arch on my laptop.

>>110110682
>OMARCHY
Already dead from drowning in slop

DHH is bringing LoL and Val to linux after visiting tencent
He is already working with Epic for their stuff too
The man is making linux an actual usable system for normies instead of a hobby

>>110111019
Enough people daily drive it that it seems like a perfectly fine one; I mean it's literally just EndeavourOS but more focused on kernel tweaks and such.

>>110111421
They somehow figured out how to make Vanguard work on a Linux kernel? How?

>>110111432
DHH asked his clanker with his unlimited tokens to go and do it and then it shat out something that did it only it probably doesn't work properly and will get everyone banned for cheating / hacking / etc (not his problem)

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>>110079376
>>110079391
>>110079454
Fooyin kinda blows dick if you're coming from foobar2000, I think DeaDBeeF is considerably better. I just wish it had auto-updating playlists based on file directories like fb2k does.

>>110111453
100% using it would get you hyperbanned. He'll need to refine it if it actually does work in his tests with dummy accounts I guess.

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Linux newfag here. Why the desktop version of Telegram looks like this? I'm running Linux mint

>>110111570
you need to install unicode fonts

>>110111570
Square means missing glyphs, so >>110111588

>>110111432
The only way it can work is by compromising the security/privacy of the kernel. The very idea of a kernel level anti-cheat acting as a black box is antithetical to what most people want from Linux.

>>110111807
linux is getting more popular with gaymer cattle, expect a lot of spyware to be ported to linux in the coming years because a theres a market for it now

>>110111807
>The very idea of a kernel level anti-cheat acting as a black box is antithetical to what most people want from Linux
Those people have never even peeked under the hood and never will, it's the same blackbox but with the added cope of "someone else audited it probably"

>>110111847
You only need to have faith in the people in charge of mainline merges. Also, AI tooling makes discovering sinister shit much easier now, no matter how good it gets it won't really know what some random anti-cheat is doing.

>>110111860
AI actually makes reverse engineering easier than ever. If it didn't refuse to do it for ethical reasons it could definitely demystify anti-cheat.

>>110111860
Faith is a dangerous thing

>>110108812
Secure boot is snakeoil.

>>110109701
You can run it through a wayland compositor on x11.
There's a script and guide floating around somewhere for setting up waydroid with weston on x11

what is the purpose of this thread when nowadays you can just slop your way out of almost every laynoox configuration problem

>>110112168
Aside from the sense of community, it's called slop for a reason. You may AI yourself in a circle for hours instead of just asking someone who already knows what they're doing.

>>110111588
>>110111797
Hi. I used sudo apt install fonts-noto to install unicode fonts but the problem persists.

>>110112964
Update the font cache with

fc-cache -v

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>>110112979
It didn't work. Should I reinstall telegram? Maybe I'm too stupid for this.

>>110113028
Re-installing probably won't change much. Make sure it's properly closed and not running in the background before you re-open it again, or just logout / back in or reboot.

If it's still not working then I've got no idea.

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So this clusterfuck of a bash script gets executed if you run firefox on NixOS. Very elegant.
(Just testing if gpu-screen-recorder is configured correctly for my shitposting purposes)

>>110113078
This is just NixOS crap to make it find all the resources in the right place since NixOS doesn't follow the FHS filesystem hierarchy at all and places EVERYTHING in these hashed directories in the /nix store.

On a normal distro it would just pick up all of that from /usr or wherever.

>>110113078
there isn't really better way to do it because Nix stores everything in hashed directories under /nix. It's a consequence of doing it like that

>>110113078
Does this happen for every binary on nixos or its only a firefox thing?

>>110112168
AI has about a 2 year knowledge gap vs current reality and no lived experience. It'll tell you every solution is either great or unworkable due to limitations which no longer exist. Try to use AI to deploy AI and you'll get a master class in this.

>>110113154
Depends on the libraries it's linked against I suppose. htop for example is a symlink straight to the htop executable in the nix store without bash wrappers

>>110113154
Anything that needs resources will need to know where to find them since they could be anywhere in /nix.

A Qt app would probably need environment variables set to find the various Qt / QML modules, etc, for example.

This is the trade-off with building everything the way they do. Nix is not like a traditional Linux distribution at all.

>>110113180
Libraries will probably be resolved by the linker but when it comes to resources / plugins / assets / etc, the program needs to know how to find them.

>>110112018
No, it's just POTENTIALLY backdoored. It's still better than not using it at all and costs you nothing.
If it is backdoored, almost no one has the keys.

>>110113154
firefox is one of the more extreme examples because it uses a lot of libraries. Other software might not need as much help to run. But if they have external libraries that they depend on they probably need a script like this to be pointed to the correct libraries otherwise it wont know which one to use

>>110113192
>>110113199
Does running a program through a bash script like that create excess unnecessary performance overhead?