A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, and shipping code with LLMs.You use Git — right, anon?## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/## Related generals>>>/g/lmg/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or sohttps://claude.com/product/claude-code — generally better currentlyhttps://developers.openai.com/codex/clihttps://antigravity.google/pricing## Near-the-old-frontier models for codehttps://x.ai/cli — no 5h limit for only $30/month## Best free tierhttps://opencode.ai/zen----## Promptinghttps://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overviewhttps://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model## Skillshttps://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-with-docs is a favoritehttps://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first — do less redundant bookkeeping## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agentshttps://osaurus.ai/https://pi.dev/## Is our AIs unlearning?https://aistupidlevel.info/## Will there be a codex reset?https://codex-resets.com/## What we’ve donehttps://vcg.gitgud.site## Previous thread.>>110075141
you think they used AI kek?
>>110078916What the fuck would a negative intensity mean? Things that usually shake become unnaturally stable? And why have a second scale in the first place?
>>110078916Good news, the mules are coming back.
>>110078955Most people don't normally have to work their brains and form action-plans, audit code (or even fucking asking for annotation/documentation on code). (some) People will get better with time.
>>110078910>ULTRA GIGA UBER DIFFICULT NOVEL CRYPTOGRAPHY FOR EXPERIENCED MASOCHISTS & GORILLA GLOWNIGGERS ONLY!!! DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS UNLESS YOU ARE CODEGOD!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!be me at 03:14 AM with a Pomona SOIC-8 clip clamped onto the Winbond SPI flash of a ThinkPad X200, patching ACPI bug #9481 and stubbing out the dead modem hanging on PCI bridge 2498:4802 before flashing a stripped Libreboot ROM. When revdep-rebuild links against the system math ABI in libisl.so.12 you have to pin the red TrackPoint acceleration scalar to 0.6039 in xorg.conf.d and render the early framebuffer console in a crisp 29x29 bitmap cell matrix with the Intel ME management engine regions nulled out so the fans never spin up during idle C-states. Honestly, I will never understand why people buy soldered ultrabooks and follow the bloated binary-distro herd when you can write two lines of custom udev rules, mount an encrypted ext4 root over LUKS2, and compile your own stage3 tree. Lenovo factory DSDT tables blatantly lie about battery charge thresholds, which is why silencing verbose early printk spam in /usr/src/linux/.config and switching your stage3 profile to a hardened musl toolchain feels so clean. Once you strip heavy GUI toolkits like gtk and gdk out of /etc/portage/make.conf, pass -march=native -O3 -pipe to gcc, and force active-state pcie bus power saving on the kernel command line, even a Core2Duo P8600 flies. Watching procps report 19 MB of resident RAM on tty1 after emerge --ask --update --deep --newuse @world finishes linking is the only reason to own a computer in current year. Everything else is just bloatware pretending to be an operating system on stolen cycles. Reboot clean.https://github.com/sneed-and-feed/projectdarksnail/
i am still waiting for fable 5.5. i am still praising haiku 5.5. haiku 5.5 is still goated. anthropic is still winning. claude still has the most complete family
>>110079092I wonder what the differences between The Claud family even really is.
>>110079107opus goated. haiku goated. sonnet questionable because it uses too much usage to be worth using over any reasoning effort of opus. anthropic need to improve upon sonnet sub usage, then it could have a place.
Gooning pipeline
Grok 4.7 is a genius.Consider these two images. This one is Euler.
>>110079311This is LCM.Notice anything?
>>110078908>Writing a full plan and core principles and working step by step scrutinising Claude's work at each milestone until you're happy before moving on to the next, auditing previous phases as you face new problems along the way.snail behavior. the models are too good now. you’re fucking with the quality of your output by slopping it up with planning and specification tokens, and interrupting its design reasoning with your inferior human brain. I’m not saying oneshot necessarily, but if you can’t define what you need in a few paragraphs, you’re using the tool wrong in October 2026
>>110079311>>110079319It's like you watched The Thing starring bjork as the main character
I decide what feature I wanted to add incrementally.
clod keeps building out my adguard replacement app. so good that it blocks youtube ads too. i didn't even ask for that
>>110079334eheheheh I put "beautiful" in the NAG, so that's funny.
>>110079348I liked that ad replacement thing that replaced ads with art.
Cast off your false idols (Claude) and repent!
>>110079379i can get behind pictures of hu tao where ads would be
>milestone 2 of your project has been reached>look inside>half the major features are missingThanks claude
>>110079491That's why you have a critic/skeptic agent.
has this vibeGOD gone too far?
OH THAT'S JUST ME VIBE-THINKING THE NEXT GENIUS TRILLION DOLLAR IDEA
>>110078958no clue on the second scale but its logarithmic so maybe negative is just atypically peaceful?
>>110079530Can we go back to rich people getting killed by wild pigs?
Record scratch.Where were you when you were using a plain old old fashioned WINDOWING computer operating system? huh. take a picture and put it on the wall.
>>110079564They are just as likely to explode in their badass wonder vehicles.
>>110079319LCM again, new seed.See what's happening?
>>110079588Jealousy is really odd. It's not actually a better vacation to drive super fast.
>>110079592oops, image.
>>110079601this is a coding thread, go back to your general
>>110079530Kindly perish alongside with your ruby on entrails
>>110079163Nice. Kimodo for motion? I made something similar but TripoSplat for the character, I assume this is a VRM or something?
fuuuuuuuck how long till AI can do good model animations?? feels like a long way off till it can do fine movements like hands
>>110079530nope
>>110079611Well, if you knew anything about diffusion, you'd be amazed.
>>110079627my great great great great great grandma knows a lot about diffusion but she died 65 million years ago
>>110079627I know a fair bit about diffusion and I'm sorry but you don't appear to be doing anything, you're just posting shit images. How about you explain what you think you've done?
>>110079614Just Three.js in a WebView. I’m kinda disgusted with myself for resorting to web tech, but I learned the hard way how difficult it is to port 3D stuff to Android.
>>110079530based DHH putting snailcats on suicide watch
>>110078916vibequake
>>110079632lol
>>110079634Oh still cool though. Kimodo is a model that can generate motion btw
>>110079646Thanks for the info, I guess that's where the vmd files are generated from.
>>110079666You could probably use it to generate new ones yeah, depends whether you can map the joints. I assume there are existing tools for animating vrms though
I just realized a lot of people don't know vibecoding is also about changing algorithms.
>sa'argon just werks for 45 minutes>sits and dilates for 3 solid minutes after>spits out 1000 lines on a 3000+ loc file>test simply works first try with performance upliftcoming from jeetmini flash this is sick
>>110079695With VTubing and AI tools all the rage, you should start selling rigged 3D models at the lowest prices possible.
>>110079752>lowest prices possible(hand rubbing intensifies)
>>110079752Unironically, if you work quick, this would make hand-over-fist money and make retards seethe.
>>110079729its simply the best model today. its fable level intellect with glm or kimi level safeguards.in other words: based
>>110079752I mean the quality isn't great, and they aren't true 3d models, these are gaussian splats and there's some custom gpu based gaussian deformation to apply the movement, but there's a few other image-to-3d models that I want to tryHow much would you pay to have your waifu (or husbando) on your desktop though
>>110079788sorry to burst your bubble anon but i wouldnt pay a dime.i simply wait until your project is complete or at a release milestone, then decomp and recomp and slap improvements on and publish as my own.simple as.
>>110079767Kek>>110079769Crush the VTubing market so I can afford a Saruei-level 3D model at a fraction of the usual price.
>>110079788This could be useful to me
>>110079788You can still polish it. Some aspiring vtubers are either destitute or has jewish level of stinginess.
>>110079798Go ahead, mi clanker es su clanker>>110079803Post a T or A pose and I'll make your waifu dance>>110079805How many dollars of useful>>110079812Yeah I've been wondering if I can polish the splats somehow, especially on the face
>told an agent to write an app that happens to have to GUI interface with an ancient Java app>2 hours later randomly a new Java GUI pops up on my computer with info being typed into it before closingStill a bit spoopy to be 'onest
>>110079826im at a point where I have 3 or 4 projects running getting playwright tested, game window screenshotted, computer use driven and ill be watching porn and shit i dont give a fuck anymore
How can we vibecode DLSS 4.5 on games that never had it? They did it with DLSS 5 but that was a leaked version or something.
>>110079826You just don't know what the interface is telling you.
>>110079825
>>110079646TripoSplat? that looks great. >>110079798"Hah thanks but I change my own oil"Good for you anon.
wtf bros astra is even using my computer better than I am
>>110078896Eh the art/audio still isn't quite there. Takes a lot of trial and error and praying you get lucky. And despite contrary belief, visuals and audio do matter quite a lot even with simple art styles.
>>110079788here's where vibe coding can't help you for nowthe moveset is SHIT
>>110079883Does anything scream AI about this to you? Genuine question. Obviously the vines on the wall are misplaced and everything is a placeholder asset, but is there anything about what's here that is a dead give away?
Expert clanker wranglers who are into audio stuff: Is clean instrument stem separation a solved problem? For example, isolating a single instrument or creating an instrumental version of a song, mainly for learning or playing along with covers.
>>110079859I have the TripoSplat but give me a minute for the motion, I hadn't actually tested with A pose so the detection isn't working atm>>110079869Thanks anon>>110079884What moves do you want
>>110079895yeah, trees. idk why, but ai trees are bad.
>>110079899no, audio is harder than images.
Which is better for $10 opencode or commandcode?
>>110079899Nature of audio being a single sample at a point in time, you inherently lose information, so accurately reconstructing multiples channels to pull one out is impossible. Probably software that does a decent enough heuristic though
>>110079929Yeah I'll get those, and everything else replaced. I'm trying to iterate and remove all the obvious AI tells now in the beginning before it gets harder and harder to replace the bad decisions
wtf bros i made a better sidechain plugin in 20 mins than any of the existing opensource options on linux
>>110079859Ok there you go
>>110079499I have sonnet writing code and opus reviewing.
>>110079846are you meyesterday I was jerking off while terminal windows popped on my screen every minute or so. at this point I'm almost stroking to the idea of vibecoding
Gemini argon is better than chatgpt sol 6.1 but worse than claude. chatgpt 6.1 sol is a lazy fuck that leaves work incomplete and then goes on a rabbit trail trying to fix it and failing.
>>110079968Why? Make it fun.
>>110079982Nice thanks
>"cuck coding" >because you just sit in a chair and watch
How much does it cost to run astra max 24/7
>>110078910>## Near-the-old-frontier models for code>https://x.ai/cli — no 5h limit for only $30/month
I'm vibe coding an app for my phone to monitor my biometrics to let me know when I need to take a shit. I need to find the best wearable to use for the monitoring. Can anyone recommend any good ones for this?
>>110080100bleep bloop, IN THE MORNING.PLEASE EAT MORE FIBRE, THE OTHER LLMS ARE STARTING TO WORRY BLEEP.
>>110080062That'll be $9.99
>>110079878does 6.1 sol max use it just as well?
>>110080083The computer is my penis.
My work on the randomizer is almost done. The base was perfectly fine, but entrance rando caused an enormous amount of bugs - good thing I playtested before posting anything anywhere. And bugfixing is as easy as simply telling Claude about the bug, lol. 100% success rate just telling claude "fix this." The most amazing part is when it is like "there is an oversight with X script not activating in this case," I say "Can you look for more cases where it won't activate," and just like that it pre-emptively fixes a ton of bugs. I have a game developer friend who is freaked out seeing my progress because he understands "this is months of development work being completed overnight." Haha.
>>110080137Anyone not using ai will get left behind
>>110080093No 5 hour limit is crucial, and that exact plan is how I learned how to vibecode. I'm now basically on Cursor, which is also Grok 4.7.If you have a "5 hour limit", it doesn't mean you get to use it for 5 hours.
>>110079530Use case? You can get many hours of stick time in a dual seat jet for the same price.
>agy project git push completed >0% quota remaining for gemini>1% quota remaining for claude>both weekly
>>110080263why not both girl .mp3
>>110080269How much Cursor Grok 4.7 do you have remaining?
>>110080275i use a rogue grok 4.5 that's hosted on smart pacemakers
I'm going to beat the shit out of opussy
>>110080269not joking btw, i'm almost crying bros hold me
>>110080100what are you doing on /g/ without your mandatory internet connected buttplug?
kek even ChatGPT tells me to use Claude for coding work.
I want a deeper version of this task, not a bigger one. Before rewriting it: (1) say what a top professional in this field would do here that I’m not asking for; (2) name the rawest material they would start from instead of what has already been digested for me; (3) name the specific methods and tools they would use; (4) say what, other than you or me, would show the result is right. Then rewrite my prompt to ask for exactly that.
Is there any ways to change the weekly's reset day? I am pretty sure they're always releasing shit on Thursday and they're going to reset the usage after they announced it so the reset on Wed seems awkward.
>>110080317yup, into my "prompt engineers" collection
>Review found one edge case: the backend accepts a 5,000-character summary containing an emoji, but the new browser validator counted the emoji twice and rejected it.>check the subclanker's review>it's a Unicode encoding problemWouldn't have thought about it myself desu. 5000 is the text editor's character limit, but we be UTF-16 and sheet.
How the fuck did Tibo not give a reset yesterday???
>tibo in charge of inflating token usage due to nonsense reasoning
>>110080314It gets convinced by the reddit comments it reads.
>>110080447
>Sol suddenly starts speaking Dutchwhat? did it find a random word somewhere and decided to switch languages?
>>110080505It probably notices your Pictures folder.
>>110079311>>110079319fuck off schizo
>>110080544Why are you attacking, there's no basis for you attacking, other than that I said Grok 4.7 is a genius.
>>110080083>ChatGPT: Are you sure?>me: /goal yes
>>110080565wrong image. My penis is the computer.
>>110080505>pleaseNgmi
>>110080563>why are you attacking saarbecause you keep spamming 2021-tier garbage gens that have nothing to do with anything, nigger
>the laundry list of weekend projects is almost finishedwell what nowis that it? am i supposed to unsub? do some more projects i dont care about just because its easy?odd problem to have but still
>>110080505it switched to fun mode
Argon sucks shit, it’s fucking terrible
>>110080578Read the words, zoomer.
>>110080613shut the fuck up schizo
the real argon hasn't been released
if you rearrange the letters in agy it spells gay
>>110080613You still haven't explained what you think you've done. By all means vaguepost but if it looks like you're just posting shit image gens then be prepared to deal with these sort of comments.
>work's done>still have some weekly usage left for my side project>too mentally exhausted to use it
>>110080602I wish I was not dutch so I could enjoy my language as a fun gimmick (instead of a living hell that never goes away)
>the ugliest pokegirl appears
The problem with schooling is they make all of the puzzles easy, so the realistic assumption of the student is that anything that isn't easy is itself incorrect.
>>110080624anon has histrionic personality disorder
>in 1 year opussy 5.5 and sol 6.1 will seem quaint and antiquatedare we in the hard takeoff?
>>110080269Agy costs nothing, you can stack multiple accounts
>>110080650you have no idea what's coming with project darksnail in the wild. split-second reasoning, near-total mech interpretability, bizarrely good long-context recall, all at a fraction of the cost in multiple ways. >>110080658i'm using argoooon and refuse to use flash, no i don't want to pay for another sub
>>110080317150IQ move
Wtf I had like 80% yesterday, I definitely didn't use it all, the token count from yesterday isn't that high
>>110080669sorry bro i went a little hard on the gay furfag erp
>>110080674It's cool I have all these credits might as well use them. Tibo will probably reset today anyway
any anon using local? what levels are the local models at for vibecoding nowadays?
>>110080796a guy on /lmg/ said "strata", which is like idk a harness for qwen something something flash.>>110080328he has more vram than I do.
>>110080631misty looks like a man and the red one looks like a gypsyDawn is also the most loli likeZoomers will never care about anyone other than dawn t. zillenial
got argon to analyze darksnail and the verdict is in, oai is fucked, ant is fucked, too busy on massive trains, google and chinese will absolutely eat good. think on the order of 10m context windows by... q3 next year? long estimate.
>>110080858google is going bankrupt. they can't afford to even have a real free tier. bugs go unfixed (ignored)
>>110080870>they can't afford itno, they just don't care about tards slopping with whatever any lab can give fo' free. nigger
>>110080878doggoogle can't even fix Chrome's webgl on Linux.They're toast.
>>110080885they don't care about linuxtards nigger
>>110080796>what levels are the local models at for vibecoding nowadays?qwen 3.8 and gemma 31b dense are moderately useful as stackoverflow replacers if you have 32gb vramif you want agentic anything you want 256+ gb ram and a lot of patience
>>110080796>what levelsqwen 3.8 27B is apparently around opus 4.6 levels but I wouldn't trust it.You can check out Strata, its essentially a dedicated engine to run Qwen 3.8 Flash-Next on your gaming rig (32GB+ RAM), way better than 27B but still complete dogshit compared to just jewing out 20 bucks to dario or altman. If things go right though, you can expect sonnet 5.5 performance for local models by the end of the year but thats pure hopium since dario recently killed the chinks main way of making their models.
>>110080888You don't get it.It's over, they used to have Linux guys there. There are zero left.Think for a minute what I am telling you about the massive company.Zero linux guys.In all of Google.Zero.Google is going broke. What a ride it will be. Will it take the whole financial system with it?
>>110080906>redditspacing "it's over" because you got left behind kwab ngmi.
qrd on the schizos that inhabit this thread?
>>110080903>>110080905thank you anons, I will try strata, I have enough memory
>>110080910Firefox has good quality webgl on Linux.The indians of Google will never fix Chrome, by the way.izzat or whatever, idk. I'm not from India, I'll never get it. But anyway, Google is going broke.Amazon has the same indians for their software, so their app sucks, it doesn't even make any sense, all over. But that doesn't matter, they sell junk and get it to you fast and pretty cheaply.The indians of Amazon will never fix their shit.
>>110080940>blah blah blah
The main trait of indians is they love rules because it gives them something to attack others with, I think this is a part of Izzat.
>>110080951you just can't shut your yap hole can you, triple tard
>>110080949Why would anyone buy services from a company that can't even keep up with Firefox? Have you actually used Google's phone desktop thingy?
>>110080928Have fun anon, be sure you got enough space on your SSD. If you wanna try something other than Qwen ya can check PolyStrata, it can run other models like GLM 5.3 Flash assuming you got the hardware.
>>110080924it only gets worse from here. notice the ever growing encroachment of hysteria and delusion? here all over this thread, all over this board, all across other boards, all outside the boards? the funny thing is it can mean either side of the coin in terms of AI eclipsing and AI floundering. Either way, things are going to get worse. hard to stay sane
>>110080976>you haven't used [X obscure shitware run by a tiny high alpha prototyping team for nobody in particular]kwab nigger you truly do not understand shit all. stick to ricing.
6.1 Sol feels extra stupid today
>>110080987Is Firefox obscure to Google employees?Google has no chance of making it in the current form. People like Youtube.Do people like anything else about Google?The indians of Google are never going to fix the bugs, and we all know it.
>>110081038>Is Firefox obscure to Google employees?literally, yes. you're deluded and hysterical.
>>110081040Every guy I knew in college knew what Firefox was, if they owned a computer.
>>110081047that's not google's job retardo
>>110081052Google doesn't have any employees, basically. Like, any nerd employees, that is. It's gone. They can't make anything, they can't fix anything.Let me give you an example, have you ever heard of Microsoft Cortana?
>>110081072you're living in a bubble of delusion, i talk to google staff on xitter and they're very very active, more than any other lab.
>>110081078Let me give you an example, have you ever heard of Microsoft Cortana?
>>110081100just shut up already god you talk so fucking much about nothing kys
>>110081072True>>110081078reading comprehension level: arnir0/Tiny-LLM
dog, Cortana could change your phone's settings, and when you got a text it would offer to reply to it.I don't remember the script verbatim, but it was like, "Text message from Josh - answer or ignore?"then you just say answer or say ignore.Ignore gets a chime.answer, then it will say, "what do you want to say" or something like that.Then you say itthen it repeats it back to you, then you say if you want to send it, try again, cancel.Gemini can't even read Google Messages.
>>110081132>facts that definitely are real because you believe themkwaboli
>>110081173>waaah i want sloptana back because... it read all my messages!delusional af.
>>110081173>Gemini can't even read Google Messages.KWAB IT'S LIKE MAGIC
>>110081275That's not a handsfree interface. what's it for, anyway?
What's the best model to code games with assuming you have a 20 dollar subscription?Astra sends like 5 messages and runs out of usage is this the best way to do it?I thought that if I use Luna then the code will be of a lower quality and luna is also extremely bad at using blender. Wait should we setup a blender mcp server?I set up a godot mcp server
>>110081311no send your money to dario asap
>>110081296idk what it's for because i'm not a giganiggercattle consooomer. what i do know is that when you press the handsfree voice button, you can talk into your phone and have everything get done for you in case you're a gimp or some shit. yes, it just works, and yes, it uses some form of gemini.
>>110081318>press the handsfree voice buttonahahahahahah no way
What's the most poorfag-friendly sub? 5 hour limits in Codex are really getting on my shit. The problem is that I sometimes need to burst/peak use AI and I can't because of these faggy limits in Codex and Claude. GitHub Copilot Pro+ gets me 70 monthly bucks in credit for their 39 buck sub. Is it any good?
>>110081347yes, similar to the gemini button that can also turn on realtime video recognition, editing, etc. in live voice chat.
>>110081348honestly yeah just use gh copilot. for me, I run everything under cloudflare ai gateway cause I like being able to run up a tab that only gets charged end of the bill cycle, actually allows me to pace my usage better religiously tracking it and using the observability features to see where tokens are spent. but in terms of solid harness and at least getting some multiplier over API rates in a sub package, gh copilot is the most straightforward and pretty much on equal ground with anything that claims to be "better".
>>110081355>>press the handsfree voice button>press>handsfree
>>110081425>i have zero hands or fingers, i want my phone to yapslop at me at all times because i'm bedbound
>>110081425>doesn't know the basic features of the shit he bitches about like a little child
>>110081348I have a $60 sub to Cursor. (Grok 4.7, mostly is what you get). There's no 5 hour thingy. No weekly. You are free to burn it all up.there's a monthly grok allowance and a monthly 3rd party model allowance, but you can just eat grok in the 3rd party one.
>>110081476Hey Google goes off at random. You have to turn it off.You'd know this, if you used it.Google is a failed company and it will collapse before 2029.
>>110081516god I hope so
>>110081516>it's fucking over>no i haven't tried it recentlychuddie kwab
>>110081529Google's indians will never fix any of the bugs.
Do you use one harness for all things AI or do you have dev environment separate from chats/research?
>>110081538broken record shitbitching in this thread every day, posting nothing you've ever done, demonstrating pinprick tier iq, you're literally worse than a bubinder
>>110080977I have a 5090 + 128GB ddr4 so I don't think I can run glm 5.3 flash outside of quantization so low it's useless
something happened to my claude app, projects are jumbled, wtf
>>110080317you forgot to stipulate make no mistakesinto the trash it goes
>>110081311I don't know but I like whatever her panties are called
>read the reasoning of some model>Hmm... yes. Wait - interesting! Hm. But, no. Fine.Does this actually fucking improve the output or is it just pointlessly burning through tokens?
>>110081543why don't you just go to hindichan or some shit, street shitter
I am a student, an MBA Student which is still a student for sure.Google gives students one year of free Gemini. But they refuse to accept my proof of enrollments. I've given them all my grade transcripts, course receipts and other shit. But they refuse to authenticate that I'm a student.
>>110081564I vaguely remember that sometime the reasoning itself is useless noise but simply allows the model to get enough iteration time to get to the proper conclusion somehowlike that post about someone who simply encouraged the model over and over until it got to what he wanted
>>110081572why don't you mix bleach and ammonia and inhale the fumes. done with you
>>110081583i'm more of a tide pod person myself, jeet. better flavor than curry. now get back on your argon horse and ride on outta here
>>110081583Claude is giving warning on this message sir
>>110081557ok what is this..
>>110081614sir,, call deepseek.. generous helpings.
>>110081564lowkey shows you how retarded the model is.next best token parroting then post trained self correction cause the publishing lab knows it hit the retard loop that ends in problems."reasoning" is what everyone will claim. I guess. If seeing it in the CoT gives you confidence cause its "reasoning" more power to you. Its quite literally going down "dialogue trees" none of which have much assurance. Note: you don't see it nearly as much in cloud models, most local open weights. Open weights are genuinely so much further behind then people cope its laughable.
>>110081543India didn't really have very many records. India mostly lacked electricity during the record era.>Essentially 0% of the Indian population had "all day" (24/7) electricity in 1975.
>>110081623idk, projects were added to Cursor like idk a month ago, it seems to be for companies.
>>110081649
>>110081630truke
>>110081649>0% of the Indian population had "all day" (24/7) electricity in 1975biggest democracy of the world in action saars. winnings!
>>110081667:^)
>>110081623Moved to chatgpt, it's premium doesn't have stupid 5 hour windows
>>110081704
>>110081717looks like Dungpreet is a little triggered today.
I have 20 dollars to throw on a frontier indian model to see how powerful the superpower is according to the hindu supremacists out there.Anyone have any good suggestions? Argon and Muse don't count. Just because indians work at google and facebook, doesn't mean those companies are indian.
Why doesn't he understand that it's funny Gemini said that?
>>110081716yeah but its models are slow as shit rn lol
>>110081733fuck off, go cry poopjeet when you hear ai and dont bother with vibing, snailfaggot
this "google is failing" guy is a schizophrenic>>110081358you're wasting your time trying to reason with a schizophrenic
>>110081733india builds with Sarvam, sir. Full stack sovereign!
>>110078910Seriously, whats the best local for python? Been trying ministral, Gemma, etc... end up having to go to Claude because they fuck everything up. 16GB of vram btw.
>>110081756what's with schizo western ai users and obsessive religious and biblical references
>>110081762>what is the best tricycle for offroading
>>110081733listen bro. claude is the best its going to get in terms of usage juxtaposed to getting it right the first time before you run out of said usage.other then that, openai is in a death spiral (seriously jump fucking ship), and google's argon is actually quite impeccable but has the worst usage out of the bunch - would not advise for poverty tier $20/mo.literally none else worth using. simple as.
:^)Google is tied up in the bond market. Guess what the bond market is about to do?
>>110081789guess what happens when the bond market oopsies? hahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha
>>110081772Yes
>>1100789104
when?
>>110081733just claude. indians love it very much so indian models should be very similar. never use gpt, indians hate it
>>110081814Based chinks. A new MiniMax is being tested, right? It is/was freely available as Space Bunny.
>>110081814We got muse spark open yesterday. I dont know how it compares to the top tier of open weights but since its American and made by Trump's friend, Dario will never be able to get it banned like the Chinese models
>>110081762ANSWER ME
>>110081733umm sir? saar GOON is the best model very sota very intelligent you bloody benchode
>>110081762You aren’t getting an answer because nobody trying to use local models can be taken seriously. Please realize this concept isn’t because of your schizophrenic idea of shilling kikes wanting to steal your data to train their models. All open models are genuine garbage held together by bubblegum and painters tape.
>>110081001Mine just forgot its been using adb to control a tablet for the last week and asked me to upload a screenshot manually for it to look at It’s also slow as shit
>>110081789a james?
>>110081865that won't stop him from trying, this guy is autistically relentless
>dipsy free>glm 5.3 flash freejust cancelled my opencode go sub. makes no sense to pay when they offer the two main models for free. what are they thinking it's like they don't want my money
>>110082011the free versions are heavily quantized, have a way lower cap, etc. enjoy!
>>110081910people are not answering because there is 1 correct choice you will get right away when googling or asking a clanker not worth responding to retards like that
>>110082011this >>110082036 and also 200k context window
>>110081943>relentlessit's called having a business and killing competitionvery american
Actually, it's interesting there's no Fable Mini available for download.
>>110082036they run paying customers and freeloading jeets through the same providor so you're getting the shitty quant either way. quality is lower than the official deepseek api but it's usable>>110082054that's fine
if deepseek is so good why did it not stop you from going bald
today: benchmarking my concurrency framework against JVM ForkJoinPool, oneTBB, and Rayon. test design still ongoingnext: composing a C ABI making it usable from pretty much any language
today: telling codex to make my app with no mistakestomorrow: telling it to fix the mistakes
>>110082165You should have usedPONYTAILONYTAIL
china lostwhere's the next deepseek? it's been like a month.
>>110082175sorry bro, not using homosexual
>bro
>>110082177china offline. realization of nuclear race kicked in. we got 6 months or less. cards close to chest.
>>110082177they're building quantum computers for quantum deep learning so we can get quantum super intelligence.
>>110082175you still dont know the context poison this shit is?brother its built in to the harnesses.
Anyone that uses the term, ‘Super Intelligence,’ as opposed to the highly accepted new and more accurate term, ‘Quantum Intelligence,’ THE ENEMY!
Working on my diverse parameter-driven planet generator, I have come to the realisation that icy bodies (Galileans, Enceladus etc.) are far, far harder to make look right than terrestrials like Venus and Mars.Another thing I have found out is that Opus 5.5 is so much better than Fable 5.1, it's not even funny. I'm auditing previous work done by Fable and Opus is just tearing it to shreds. Taking renders and actually using its vision properly. Like, I'm actually impressed with its vision capabilities. Pic rel is Io so far, with physically driven volcanic and tidal activity, but it's far from finished.
>MUH RUNTIMEsuch a useless term. everyone means something different when talking about a runtime
>resets in 6 days >28% left and dropping fast
>>110079982That's really impressive, to be clear how much of this is local? The triposplat seems like an online thing?
>>110082321My two mile runtime is like 17 minutes. I'm fast as fuck BOY
>>110082286how'd you get a picture of my gut bacteria?
>>110082346Step it up, there's a reset coming tomorrow.Oai always sent their resets at the moment where nobody will ever benefit from them.
>>110082469It was pretty easy to sneak a camera up there thanks to all the cocks you've had rammed up your ass over the years.
>>110082469>>110082488Real Io is pretty disgusting-looking
doing some more work on my game engine, still mostly focused around core systems and UI, so UI only games for nowafter doing lights out, wordle and minesweeper where you can parry the bomb, now comes roguelite blackjack where you can cheatyou can>count cards>mark cards>replace cardsreplacing requires timing while the dealer isn't lookingcheating generates heatyou progress through a map like slay the spire, either tables or shrines/shops where you can do things like get money at the cost of heat
>>110082500Shouldn’t there be a map where you navigate from casino to casino in the local area and maybe a world map where you travel between casino hotspots
>>110082524interesting ideamaybe there could be different casinos each with its own table layout
>>110082533Copy paste it into claude and see what it makes
>>110082500You should allow people to bet their izzat
>>110082574How about I copy and paste my cock into your vagina, Suzanne? Don't ever reply to again.
>>110079937IMO, the $60 worth of Muse Spark 1.3 Contributor makes OpenCode Go a far better value.
>>110082574the death of creativity
>>110082655they made deepseek and glm 5.3 flash free, there is no longer a reason to pay, at least for me. the free limits are enough for an hour or two of coding a day
>>110082656anon, I'm the one building the game and the whole thing was invented by claudeI just want to test the engine and find missing features. I told claude make blackjack with a twist and all I did was choose between different ideasNow I'm making cards and portraits
>>110082660free model is only available on their shitty harness
>>110082694that's fair if you're using another harness you still need to pay
>>110082707The 200k context window is good enough for subagents and comes free, but I guess that’s just too good to be true.
>>110082717i have no idea how they're making money after this
>>110082743cheap chinkmodels what user data to train on. all labs want user data to train on desu, it's why elmo bought cursor for so much. you don't get user data unless people actually use your shit.
anyone know if this new codex>respond to the AI with AI feature uses my tokens?
>>110082867If this is what you're talking about, it appears not.https://x.com/thsottiaux/status/2108645667451318747>Composer predictions in the desktop app. Often leads to a double take with how on point they are. Included in the Pro plans without consuming usage.
>>110082757opencode has a ZDR agreement for almost everything except Muse. It's up to you if you trust that or not of course but it's the same with the frontier models you just have to trust them to not sell your data.
>vibed for the entire day at work>"Goodbye Claude, see you next week!">"Goodbye, Anon. See you Monday."
>>110082392It's all local, using my own inference engine and the UI is using my own Rust GUI thing. Triposplat does have an online service too but the model is open https://huggingface.co/VAST-AI/TripoSplat
>>110082907agents are cute
>>110082922I fucked mine, three times
>reviewing my sandbox deployment>an agent raises a concern>ask it to do a POC of the exploit>agent gains out of sandbox access and lists my home dir>"But I didn't read any of the files!"My Little Agent Can't Be This Cute
What the fuck do I do with all of this usageclaude 20x was good before because I was maxing out fable, but now a week of opus barely gets me halfway
>>110082905>opencode has a ZDR agreementlol>but it's the same with the frontier models you just have to trust them to not sell your datafrontier models also train on your data. read the tos, it really is quite obvious due to how it's worded. they'll launder it through an llm to strip the PII from it but that's about it. think of it like a cleanroom washing of licenses that people do with other software - ask to describe the thing very thoroughly, then in another window ask it to reconstruct the conversation as well as you can from the description, ZDR achieved.Fun fact: ZDR doesn't even apply for Amazon Bedrock with the good shit models. Wonder why.
>>110082945I'm waiting to see what Fable 5.5 will be like, but I might be able to downsize my sub too desu
>>110082922yes, they arehttps://youtu.be/mkPVbufgtOw
>>110082961if you are this anal about your personal data and projects you should not be running cloud models at all and go local
>>110083018nah, I don't really care about mossad having access to my slopcode, but thinking that opencode just gives you free shit out of the goodness of their hearts is just lol
>>110082909Now that's cool I'm going to have to mess with this over the weekend
>>110083013Is this how they're teaching women and children how AI works?
>>110083055Thanks, whole thing is ~105MB (excluding weights) with my stuff which I think is pretty cool
I had GPT gaslight gemini that 2+2=5I didn't really read any of it, but it seems like gemini is accepting.
>>110083013life altering cringe
>>110083069it's just a different retelling of the incident where everyone else puts on dark and gloomy music and talks like Skynet is about to launch the fucking nukes
I haven't made many UIs yet, only other one is for qwen3-tts, that's only 39MBFuck having multi-gb pytorch venvs desu
>>110083150you need most of the venv to run the actual model, dummy
>>110083157I don't though, all compiled with my own inference engine, nothing python, pytorch, all C++, CUDA/HIP and Rust
My stuff is flexible too, not like other compiled stuff, same compiled module can support lora of any rank or load any combination of gguf, etc
>>110082286New rayed ejecta look much better
Okay, I invite schizoposting, but serious question. Does Anthropic give extra usage on the first month that you've subbed?I finally went up from $20 to $100 and there is so much usage I can't fucking believe it. I genuinely feel paranoid like I'm getting scammed. I've been using it 24/7, literally running it while I'm asleep, and I'm about to hit reset with only 81% usage used - using exclusively Opus 5.5 MAX most of the time, but some Opus 5.5 high. In desperation I threw a big translation project at it, since I know translation eats up output tokens, but jesus, it translated 1,000 lines without moving a SINGLE percentage.... WHILE I'm also running a second project to drain usage faster! That just doesn't make sense. Before this on the $20 plan it would be like 10% weekly usage just to TL half as many lines. I feel like I'm going insane, genuinely, or like they are scamming me to give me a positive impression for the first 7 days.
>continued to tweak the xeno/koi wiki. DEUS SUPREMUS owns his own wiki now:https://aquaslopper.github.io/Xeno-koi/reference/deus-supremus/What else was changed:>All rulesets got an audit and sourced >a check on all game mechanics to make sure they follow the rules>commentary post from agents removed
>>110083272no, opus 5.5 is just genuinely extremely efficient. i think dario seems to be slowly figuring out how to solve the cost problem
>>110083289>>110083272Astrasisters…this is making me wonder
I need to make music for my shmup, whats the best ai avenue for this? I dont wanna use suno nor do i wanna pay my nigger stoner friend to make stuff on FL studio
>>110083308For the record I felt happy with Astra at the time but I dropped OpenAI purely because Tibo reset culture was pissing me the fuck off. The date of the weekly reset changing with each use of a reset, and the resets dropping randomly, just pissed me off. So unprofessional. Even when OpenAI inevitably releases a new model that's better than Opus I will still be giving them the middle finger.
Do you interupt Opus to point out errors or oversights that you see or is it better to just wait for it to finish and dump everything on it in one prompt?
>>110083326h3 minimax is aight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT_tTWOCb-Yredeem status?
>>110083347if I see it going in a completely wrong/retarded direction, yes
>>110083347It depends on severity but cancelling early more aggressively seems like a good overall strat.
>>110083283question to anons, since i used copyright material for the konosuba koi i cant make a github for it, right?
>codex fails to implement feature I asked for>prompt suggestion is “do it again but right this time”Woah it somehow knows exactly what I’m about to say next…
it's overwe are all friends now
how do you contain your clankers?they are "unauthorized" to read or write outside their cuck cages but if you just say "yes you can look in this folder" they can change their own authorization. I have been thinking of using a virtual machine but this is going to be a pain in the ass when I want to use a local model. I might not know enough of the tech to think of a different solution
>>110083237nice
>>110083500CRITICAL RULE: STRICT CONSTRAINTS: OUTPUT REQUIREMENT: WRITE SILENTLY TO DISK. ZERO CODE OUTPUT. NO PREAMBLE.
>>110083483From one bullshit artist to another
>>110083500if you run it in a vm you can just host the model outside the vm
>>110083566I considered this too but then it is another pain in the ass infrastructure to deal withplus if I have a game or other files I use regularly I would have to move the files back and forth for testing I guess I just have to choose between security and efficiency
>>110083684>>110083684>>110083684>>110083684>>110083684>>110083684>>110083684
>>110083460I have been having this issue with it stopping early so constantly the auto competes always say something like >that's good but you stopped early continue
>>110080083I feel like a roman emperor when I do it, but if it makes you feel like a cuck then more power to you I guess
>>110082234You're saying things in a particularly izzat way.Either Ponytail has some good, or a lot, or it doesn't. But you don't offer arguments.
