Previously on lost: >>110061625
I spam fagman jobs all the time only to be rejected every single time for over a year and now I get an online assessment in 4 days due, out of fucking nowhere.I am employed. I don't have time to grind fucking leetcode. Now I have to call in sick to my job, only to fail this shit.Any tips?Bah fuck you all I'll look it up. Fucking shit cunt fag shit fuck.
Does anyone else deal with a manager who always finds something to criticize you about despite you being a senior? He seems to always think I'm not doing any of the soft skills correctly. Yet I'm always doing them outside his vision with other people across the company. For some reason, me not reacting on slack to messages or posting just little things that has nothing to do with my current work is considered bad. He also thinks I need to show my skills more when we have too much shit to do to be worrying about trying to fix everything. This guy is really giving me a lot of shit for things that are a waste of time.
>>11008158890% of managers are useless retards, just ignore him
>Went out drinking last night
>>110081617He says he's going to have follow up meetings with me to give feedback on if Im improving or not. I can't ignore him. He's clearly looking to push me to "improve" actively. I dont know why, Im doing work as is. But he doesnt like that Im not engaging enough despite me being too damn busy with my actual engineering to do what he wants from me. He doesnt even code himself.
>>110081588They're LinkedIn business school brained lemmings this is the only thing they know how to do and the only way he can feel like he's your superior
>>110081588Unfortunately, he's playing the game.He wants you visible because he's seeing positive feedback from the top when people post their team's "press releases".1. You don't have to like it, but ignore it at your own peril. Some VP of your department may get a visit from the Good Idea fairy and they just lay off anyone who hasn't posted (yes c-suiters can be this stupid)2. A good manager would be your own team's hype man, and he should be asking you for your change log/releases so HE can make those posts for you.
>>110081853Our manager is very lazy. He expects us to take on most of his responsibilities. And he's nothing like a hype man. He almost feels like he's there to make sure we don't go wild more than actually being a member of the team. In a sense, he feels like a security guard. And all he does with us is just tell what to do and not to do in his eyes. But he never gets into the technical weeds cause he doesn't know as much as we do. I show my quality through my work yet he keeps not being able to see that despite my reports I give on something fixed or found.
>>110081874If you're the senior lead, pull him aside for a lunch and tell him this, just politely. Sucks, but it's your job to manage upwards and take the hit for your guys.Do not do this in front of ANYONE else on the team. Go to lunch or somewhere away from the rest of the team. Ask him for what he wants from you, and then come back with your counter offer of what the team needs from him.
>>110081939we're all remote
>>110081949Welp... Not optimal, and probably explains his management style. Does he do 1-on-1s? Because if not, you're going to have to schedule your own meeting, and those always suck.
>>110081976He does, and I hate them cause all he does is go >you could be doing this betterIm like >have you seen how many projects Ive finished and initiatives Ive led and customers Ive talked to?Apparently he has not, but it's not my job to be doing what he's suppose to do. Which all it would take is for him to stalk my messages across Slack.
>>110081991Have your clanker compile a list of what you did and show that to him>it's not my job to blablaIrrelevant, it would be beneficial for you to show this to him
>>110081991Just fire of a summary DM to him at the end of every day then. He should be getting this from the damn scrum.
>>110082012I already have shown it but then he goes>I havent seen itWhich is a lie cause it's in the channel and in our task board, which he does see. Thats the gaslighting part.
>>110082026Thats the funny part. We dont have a scrum.
>>110082032You're 100% remote and you guys aren't doing ANY standup? Achtung, achtung.
>>110082056We have standups every other day. We also have them between each other (the devs). I personally think we dont need him as a manager. We're self functioning as is.
>>110082067Dunno about that one, chief. If you're already doing his work for him, then just open the PM dashboard, setup the automated daily progress tracker, and put him in the recipients field.
>>110082116thats the thing, he does look at our tickets. we literally have a board of all our tasks in each progress. He literally sees during standup what we're all doing.
>>110082135Okay, so he just wants the summary email. You're a strong independent developer. Automate that shit. We've spent enough time detailing the problem here that a local model could have already written a bash script to use curl to do this for you in that time.CC it to his manager, by accident, until he brings it up.
>>110082201kek, so go the route of making life so miserable with information he gets tired of it.
>>110081184>>>/ck/22248434
>4 devs doing the output of 10>only 1 QA, who is needed to move tickets from To Test to Done column>QA is gone for a week on vacation>"Why are so few tickets done???"
>>110082249>His company still pays for QA on the team instead of just making devs do PRs with Copilot code review and pretending the velocity hit and spining bug reports don't exist
>>110082249>QA, who is needed to move tickets from To Test to Done columnKinda based ngl
>28th for career change options.>I like tech but not the current tech work environment>I am actually glad the work week's over, I'd rather do something on my own
Alright lads I've been tasked with a larger research project, what do you guys use to keep it all mapped out? Obsidian? Google Docs? Canva? Brain only?
think the interview went welldidn't come across as arrogant, which is nicebut fuck, man, i know .net is a windows tech but as a linux user can't i get a mac at least?can always use wsl i guess
>>110082515A3 sized dotted notebook I made cover for, a 1.5€ engineering pen, funny ruler with glitter in it, and 3 fineliners.>>110082538It's a bit of hit and miss. We had to setup a Windows VM for gitlab to have net there. But I'm not the code monkey who needed that so I don't know what was wrong.
>>110082538wsl2 is a broken piece of unusable garbage. You're better off developing within a docker image or using a VM.
impressive my boomer manager (he's a good lad) with my """AI skills""" (asking the AI to tell me how I should ask it to do things)
>>110082566>>110082568i find wsl mostly usable, but i think for the next job start off with install a DE and fullscreening xvnc
>>110081159I'm amazed that I knew this was meant to be John Locke before I read the text in the post. I haven't watched Lost since like december 2005.
>>110082584Impressing* damnIt's shameful but it feels good to be praised (because it might mean a raise)
>>110081159newfag here, what are some tech jobs that are likely to still exist in 5-10 years
>>110082803all of them. the indians failed their competence check and are getting kicked out, so cs jobs are going back to being in demand due to not many high iq people who can do it. The market is correcting.
>>110082810NTA so 2 years for a full correction of this shitty cycle?
>>110081187Never mind lol it is a shitty online HR assessment
>remote work day>check my calendar>no meetings
>>110082249You guys have QAs? We devs are literally expected to do everything except for requirements engineering now.
Why not just demand more instead of firing people, nigga. Like I'm sure every program manager has 10 gorillion initiatives that keep getting dropped/delayed in favor of other shit with more ROI.
>>110083376PM's aren't that busy. They exist because manger's don't actually want to manage.
>>110083276>remote work dayAre American wageslaves this cucked? I have an office day (voluntary)
I made an even 100k cad last year and my rent is 1200/month.
>>110083376Ceos don't like changing their products quickly. They lose authority is the pm underdoglings start calling shots.
>>110083464unfortunately there's a lot of companies that require everyone in office.
>>110083522How do you get rent that low? I had to go to torotten to make 100k, rent was 2600.
>>110083573It's because a lot of these companies have a lot of investments in commercial real estate, that and or they get a bunch of tax breaks for having such offices in the city to stimulate the local economy.
>>110083704I live in Ottawa. Found my current place in 2019 for 990/mo. Land lard always applies to increase rent above the guideline max (3.4% usually) There is nothing else lower than $1800 unless its a single bedroom, and even then, those go for around $1000How the hell do poor people with incomes under $55k even survive these days? Even you can barely save money with that kind of rent. 100*. 75-(12*2600)=43k after tax and rent. Probably much less, like $35k because of other tax. Then other living expenses eats away the rest
>>110083885>grandfathered pre-covid leaselol of courseSurprise you even find 1800 except in lease transfers.
>>110081159>BI job paying 55k>1-3 years experienceI don't feel well, bros...
>>110083885i would bet like half of people in cities are on some sort of subsidized apartment shit.in the city im from its extremely expensive and most jobs dont pay enough to live. the immigrants there arent even legally allowed to work for 2 years upon arrival but they all have cars and apartments.something like a quarter of all units built there are required to be low income housing.its great really, if youre just willing to live in a shelter or family you can just get on a housing list where you basically make the same income as someone at 70k while stocking shelves because of the subsidized unit being mandated to 1/3rd of income. you are allowed to keep those units until 80k usd income.
>>110084433They work in the black and live 4 to a 1br.
>>110081675Fuck this guy, and be smart about how you destroy his argument totally. Sit in a meeting and make him define what exactly constitutes improvement, down to the specific actions you need to take and when. So if he wants you to put a thumbs up on a teams chat, he needs to tell you how long you have to acknowledge that. Like, exactly what soft skills does he want you to improve on? He needs to define that and give you something achievable and reasonable, other wise it's just vague emotions and feelings.
>have a good feeling about this new position>HR asked for what pay range i'm looking for, answer truthfully (dumb decision i guess) and say 35-38>pay range budget is 35-45>all the other positions i've seen in the last few months for my skillset top out at 35country-related comparatively shit wages aside, how do i play the negotiation here lads?on one hand, i would be pretty happy if i got like 37. 40 would make me absolutely ecstatic but it's outside the range i reported.i want to maximize the chance of getting in here.
>>110084569If you said your range was 35-38 they are going to offer 35 initially
Most of the time it doesn't really matter what field we work in, but would "trying out" (if you know what I mean) different companies be make sense to get the general idea of what else I could do?
>check my senior dev coworker's calendar>4 hours of meetings a dayhow does this nigga get anything done
>>110085611he doesnt. it's all for the politics.
>>110085611Now you know why the senior dev seemingly can't get shit done and has a slower dev pace than you
>>110085611anthropicus claudius maximus jewian
>>110085611At a certain level it becomes less important to code than to design, align with other teams, teach and reign the tards in
when I get stressed at work, I put on the kettle and turn on my bathtub waterits comfy
>>110085611How do you know it's meetings and not him blocking some time lol?
>>110081588>>110081675I had a manager do this to me while I was lead of a huge team. He ended up wasting alot of my time and making my day more stressful with lots of reocurring meetings and forcing me to have reocurring meetings with members of other teams. overall it lead to a drop in my productivity and drop in code quality, or in other words are starting making more mistakes on the technical side which was then used to discredit my technical ability.I am not sure what is the right move but I wish I had just told him that I have ZERO interest in being a manager ZERO interest in soft skills and to BACK OFF or I will find another job somewhere else.Instead, I eventually got cut in a mass layoff.My soft skills were actually pretty good before he started all that bullshit and in retrospect I se how the whole thing was a setup to get me to underperform on the technical side so that they could break up my team and layoff me and 2/3 of my team.
>>110085766>lean in to the trapshut the fuck up.
>build system has three different agents to review each PR, two of which block your submission if they don't like it
>>110083404Hard disagree. I've had the expereince of good and bad PMs. A good PM understands how and especially when to manage requirements when speaking to stakeholder before dev hits the room, AND enough familiarity with the platform and the balls to not need a dev to hand hold them when making estimations.Given unrealistic requirements, a bad PM says "yes". An honest one says "no". And a good one says "no, but how about..."
>>110081101>He has a ticket queueGrass always looks greener on the other side. Imagine having no queue. Imagine your company is so disorganized that you're left to do nothing but review MRs and make busy work for dozens of hours every week.It might sound nice to have a quiet week but it's actually maddening after a while. 10 minutes feels like 2hours by the end of the day. I would take a packed week 100 times before I took this fate.
>>110081874You can't soft skill with these people. They'll blame you for everything, take credit for everything, and lie about everything.
>>110086473Same anon. I get the idea but you are on the deep end of the world by comparison. You really miss the fact that everyone has a clue of what to do even if your swamped. I wish i had less shit to do since i already do so much shit to begin with. However without tickets it would be a nightmare in the same situation.
>>110081159is it all propaganda on both sides of the ai question? on every side? it's just a media blitz??? i don't really use it a lot but the few times i have (recently) i didn't think "oh my god i need to use this for everything"am i just a midwit?
>>110087091People are completing CS degrees if not all degree programs with AI. If it's that good at that low level of work then can you imagine digging a trench without a shovel?
>>110079470>>110079488>The issue is self correcting. It happened during the dotcom bust.Interesting. How did it self correct?
The place I work at just mandated that everyone returns to the office out of nowhere.
I have a skip meeting with the CEO, am I being fired? I have been here for 3 years :(
>>110088263Let me guess, luddite company? Mine just sold the office so we can afford more compute.
I love my job!!! sad it's friday... my manager told me to not work on the weekends
>>110088300No they love AI slop, I think they're just trying to justify renting the office space.
>>110088383It's Saturday and I am going to take ownership of sleeping and wishing I wouldn't ever wake up. Work-week 39+ for completion. An extra fte may be needed to just kill me one day so I can pmd.
>>110088504kys stupid euromutt furfaggot
>>110081874Almost sounds like the polar opposite of my manager. Very soft spoken. Can barely speak to people in fact. Never tells us what to work on, mostly because of bottlenecks out of his control. Is always in the weeds, stares at MRs for hours until he finds a bug you never would have thought of in a million years or thinks of a better way to do things you never would have thought of, yet I have never seen him do more than a couple tickets himself. Definitely doesn't feel like a hype man, but doesn't feel like a security guard. Feels like he's there because no one else would do it and he offends no one, although I worry he's going to either burn out or our team is never going to grow because we don't have a strong leader pushing for change outside of our personal technical abilities.
>>110088524>kysThat's the goal. I'm too sad to even find someone to shorten my life by doing the unthinkable.I think working alone is exhausting. I literally put on and off lights for the whole empty floor at the office.
>48 hours
>>110088592Schadenfreude doesn't help if there's nobody to share the joy with, or anyone to be the suffering code monkey in the first place.
>starting new job in a week with 25% pay bump and substantial RSUsfeelsgoodman
>>110088504why is his scrotum so big??
>>110088710...look again, anon.
>>110088710That's literally a cat on top of a cat.>>110088692Congratulations.>Management knows my priorities and that money isn't on the list>They even do the whole walk of "who will let you name the cluster after pokemon when you leave">"Will someone in the city praise you">"Who will let you sleep in kitchen"Etc
>have to do some work for hr>open workday>see my coworker is paid a 20k bonus anally while i'm only paid 8kwhat the fuck??
>>110088824Literally me. Do you want to share what'll you'll do about that?
>>110088824>>110088841perhaps they do more than you?>>110086032I'm being asked to be IT manager, I think I'd rather be a sysadmin even though the pay change is a lot
>>110088877it is being replaced by ai
>>110088941AI is really bad at replacing IT
>>110088959proof?
>>110088970Physical infrastructureBut it also sucks at python and bash for some reason
hi archive bot
>>110081159> 1-1 meeting with manager> Got some feedback, which was fair> Gave feedback about how product isn't even writing tickets anymore or doing anything really apart from just telling us to "implement x feature in two weeks"> Tells me how this is the new expected way to work> Tell them why are we not pushing back against product?> Tells me they have fought back, to no avail> Tell me I have to RTO on top of itGod I hate this job. Just going to coast until I get fired. Well, even more than I have been doing.
>>110089448>there are people who would fall for this obvious bullshit
>>110088877>sysadmin being asked to be IT managerI would take the promotion. not trying to be rude but sysadmin is at a dead fucking end brother; otherwise you will be forced into some weird Network Engineer / DevOps kind of role where unfair shit is thrown at you, along with security ops too, I am assuming that is already happening. take. the. promotion. same shit, more pay.
>>110089218implement x feature in two weeksSent from my iPhone your product department actually used to do more?[\code]
your product department actually used to do more?[\code]
My shitty coworker finally got axed. Now he can go be a fucking sperg elsewhere
>>110088587>Doing the unthinkable >Constantly thinking about itDeliver furries to God with extreme prejudice
>>110088824>20k bonus anally
>>110089448damn, that's actually hilarious.i feel for one of those tests because they pretended to be a linkedin email and i was looking for a new job so i was expecting linkedin notifications.tho in hindsight i shouldn't have expected them on the work email lmao
>>110085611senior devs spend as much time coding as doing tard wrangling with the product owners, partners, etc.
>page 10t-tech workers...?
>>110092401It's Caturday. We don't do shit today.
>>110081159Why is he bald? He got cancer?
>>110092424I work the weekends. Sometimes its busy, sometimes it's mega ass.
>>110092797>work on Saturday Where do you live and what do you do? I want to move there. I wish "workers' rights" weren't a thing in Europe.
>>110092840US, at a MSP that does NOC. I make 160k USD a year so it's not gangbusters for the pay while i work nights.
>>110092840>Where do you live and what do you do?Why did you even ask this? Of course that anon is american, and of course you knew this before you asked him.
God dam is amazon this hard to pass an interview?
>>110092849lmaoI make 170k eur full-remote, I only work a couple hours a week at most.
>>110092881That retard thinks "C+" is a thing.
>>110092887If i was full remote i wouldn't be replying to cope anon.
>>110092879I was hoping for the slight chance that some European or Asian country has enough common sense to let people work during weekends if they want to.>>110092840That's... Kind of normal?
>>110081874>And all he does with us is just tell what to do and not to do in his eyes. But he never gets into the technical weeds cause he doesn't know as much as we do. I show my quality through my work yet he keeps not being able to see that despite my reports I give on something fixed or found.Man's making double your salary to do little or no work, and whatever problems arise, he just outsources them to you and your peers. Extremely based.
>>110089832now you'll have to pick up all his work
>>110092849>I make 160k USD a year so it's not gangbusters for the pay while i work nights.you're getting royally screwed, and you don't even seem to notice. holy kek.
>>110094135>now you'll have to pick up all his workHe's a govt. civilian, they don't do any work to begin with kek. He's also getting replaced by someone actually halfway competent
>>110083404>They exist because manger's don't actually want to manage.copie, the managers job is not to play PM, a PM's job can be done by a high schooler. They are the project jannie
>>110094150>he doesn't get paid a bajillion dollars + interest for working 3 Femtoseconds a century
>>110092424i'm just waiting for the weekend to be over, then on monday i'll be waiting for the weekend
Thinking about Saturday as of caturday, makes it less stressful, d e s u.It's a day to spend with cats.>>110092424Thanks for the idea, anon.
> But ... But OpenAI is not profitable!Listen faggots:Step 1. Vibecoders and SWEs train the models and even pay to do that.Step 2. The models become so good that they can fully replace a senior SWEStep 3. They raise prices. Are you paying $100 a month? Prepare to pay now $15 000 a month. You say what? It won't work? Consider this: when AI becomes the engineer, running its own test suites, refactoring legacy subsystems, a project which historically required a team of three senior developers six months to complete, an AI lab can charge to execute it autonomously in an afternoon.No more SWE jobs but also no more vibe coding either. Thanks for playing and paying.
>>110095817Vibecoders can't code so they're just training the model to make code worse than jeets ever made. Swes don't train models, they either don't use them or they automate the whole workflow and don't even know what's going on because fuck management for forcing AI down everyone's throat. They get what they deserve.The models are still not good enough to replace the worst jeet. "2 more weeks" for 4 years straight does not cut it.You are right that the day AI can, in fact, perform tasks faster than skilled devs, $1000 a month would be a possible price point. Not much than that, though, as jeets would remain far cheaper.
>make code worse than jeets ever madeSomeone has obviously never looked at either Indian spaghetti code nor Opus 5.5 code
So my coworker (indian) kept saying shit about our boss for being white, I (black) actually love the guy but this coworker wouldn't stop shit talking about how the guy is useless, that we should get rid of him, etc. Meanwhile my boss (the white dude) kept telling me how much he likes the coworker (indian) so I said fuck it and actually told him the truth eventually, he was devastated but also very thankful, and even said some other had approched him and told him something similar, ok I thought that was it and I could move on. NOPE. Seems by boss (white) talked with his boss (indian) and now I have a meeting with him (indian) about the matter. Now you might think, "just because they are both indian doesn't mean they will team up", but the coworker (indian) and bosses' boss (indian) go way back before either me or my boss joined. Am I fucked? Like what the hell
>>110095915Hi pajeet
>>110095981I'm pakistani benchod
>>110095942>"just because they are both indian doesn't mean they will team up"It's 2026, even normalfags don't think that anymore, let alone people who have ever interacted with them (so tech workers).
>>110095992I know this is a joke but it's funny that irl, jeets think anyone else besides them cares about any distinction between India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.They're all jeets and poos.
is we getting another covid
writing unit tests on a saturday because my manager wont accept my aislop tests
>>110096345Based manager. Get cucked AI psychosed retard.
Trying to find a new job but i get totally filtered by HR somehow. Im applying only to relevant positions and get interviews every week. They tend to ask basic question like tell me about yourself, behavioural shit and then ask do you know tech x or y, like do you know how to use cicd. Which i always tell yes, and im not even lying or trying to inflate anything. Then they ask about pay and if im willing to go on site 2-3x week that i also say yes.I dont know what to do or wtf im doing wrong. I go to reddit and people have 10x higher pass rate. Like they interview 20 times and are sent to next round in 10 of these. It is easier in case you always fail the technical interview, just sit down and study but what to do in my case?
>>110096635We aren't actually hiring, we just pretend to be hiring but reject everyone (unless a unicorn candidate happens to fall in our lap). You have to have open public hiring positions so the company looks healthy as long as possible, until the global credit cycle gets worse.
My indian coworker came into the office the other day and he wasn't smelling like wet dogshit. I felt so betrayed. They can turn it off, they just choose not to.
I'm a UI/UX designer in a big tech company. We were a team of 12 and recently 11 got fired. I'm the only one left there because of my interest in AI, new technologies, etc. Mostly using git copilot now in visual studio with Claude and it kinda does everything I did in a year now in a week lmao. The whole wireframing part (that we now could even skip honestly), then the UI part. AI is kinda shit doing really good visual design in that field so I do some designs first and it uses those as reference. 90% of my work consists of prompting and reviewing the results now. It's hard to believe that just a few weeks ago we were just a normal design department spending all day in figma and building UI libraries.
>>110097668do you mean github copilot?visual studio code?
I got an interview I hope to join you guys soon!
I told my boss I'm tired of this bullshit. I hope I'll be able to leave this general soon!
>>110097159Lmao, good one
>>110098197You’re just racist, smell was solved years ago. Anyone who smells bad just refuses to do anything about it.
saturday is already over, gotta do something interesting tomorrow so I can give an update on my life during monday's standup
>>110083885where the hell do you live my friend in ottawa just moved into the first floor of a multi unit with barred windows in one of the highest crime areas for $1400
having money is so weird because I'll go to a restaurant with my coworkers and they order 3 of the stupid expensive appetizer sampling platters and it's like $70 worth of food that fills up maybe 2 people
>>110098223near the riverdoes he only have a single room? or an actual suite? >>110098313most restaurant food is terrible too. sometimes work takes us out for lunch and the bill will be over 1k for some oil, butter, potato slop.
>>110098313>having moneyThis is twg, even someone as poor as me "has money".>Eating food instead of throwing it away Absolutely weird idea.>going to a restaurant with friendsNow that's the real humble brag you made that post for.
enjoying the weekend, /twg/?
>>110099582no, I crave purpose
>24>only making 200k a yearAlexander won his first battle at 16my life is over.
>>110099582Picture related is horribly relatable. Taking care of my cat and dreaming was the best part of the weekend.What about your weekend?>>110099658Understandable.
Is my brain rotten by big tech or is it absolutely retarded for these companies to demand experience in that specific language's framework that their stack uses?
>>110095942>Translation: I got willingly involved in office drama and now I don't like it, help Yeah get fucked, retard.
can CAD techs post here
>>110100135what kind of bullshit job is that?
>>110100135no, go away.this is the general for made up work. if you're stuff is used to make actual, real things you need to go elsewhere
>company has a "remote workers advocacy" channel on slacklol
Coping that work can replace a relationship requires extra doses of copium and energy. >just do xyzthere's literally nobody around to even try for.
bro how i do force myself into doing shitive been tasked to do something at work and i just cant make myself do iti try to start working and nothing comes out of meand its not like i stopped like programming i still do my own shit on the side but in work i just cannot do it i think i will just quit
>>110101713sounds like burnout
>>110100177>I prompt AIphew real job confirmed
chat, I need a list of excuses to use to avoid going to after work team building eventscan't use "I have my social life/family" because I don't
>>110102002why make excuses
>>110102031because afterwards they'll ask "why weren't you at the event anon?!"
>>110102002>i have autism>i have social anxiety>i want to fuck all the female coworkers, even the ugly and fat ones
>>110102041>fired on the spot>fired on the spot>female coworkers cheer and pair you with the down's syndrome HR bitch
>>110102059>ifshesdownimdown.webm
>>110101713I wait until the last possible day and then do it. I'm good at knowing exactly how long something will take which makes me procrastinate harder
>>110102002I'm in IT and I go to one or two event during work hours a year. That's more than enough for me. Everyone still likes me the same. The IT director also only shows once or twice
>>110100502this would turn around to be actually funny if he labeled the video "how to become a billionaire training course (20$/month)"
>reply with rejection message with nothing but thumbs up emoji.on one hand i bombed the technical interview, so that's on me.but on the other hand, the deal seemed straight up shady. i couldn't even get a straight answer on what company i would be hired by, not for what company i would give my services to as a consultant.
>>110094745Can you say that again in English?
>>110099740>24>only making 200k a yearwhere are you located?
>>110103314>he's poor
i legit didnt get anything done in the past week and tomorrow its monday againnow what
>>110101801i'm the same way and idk what to really do about it. i was thinking i'd just stay until i get pipfucked into finding a new job but it doesn't seem like it's happening. no one here seems to give a fuck and the work is extremely dull and pointless>oh you worked on x for a week? oh we fixed that ages ago just forgot to update the ticket lolso i just make up tasks for myself basically half the time. nothing le mattersthe 1 time i actually put some passion into my job i got nothing but shit for it so now it feels like i'm on welfare even though i'm not
>>110081853>2. A good manager would be your own team's hype man, and he should be asking you for your change log/releases so HE can make those posts for you.This, guess I am lucky.>>110081661I'm going out drinking right now!>>110082515Any open source wiki software.
>About to finish a meeting >"I have an important announcement to make, everyone" >"it's X's birthday">I can for the fact these two hate each other and are always sabotaging each other's work>*crickets*>awkward "hehe HBD" >I can see the guy dying inside
>>110103320sf
>>110104834>that nosql answer
it's over
work has officially gone from 2 days in the office to 3but we're an inter-state team and I'm 1 of 2 in my local office's team so I'm just gonna keep on the fuckin 2 days a week until they notice
>Europoor in automotive embedded sw at big corpIn the two years I've been here, I have written hardly any code. Is this normal? They hired me as a C dev, but all I do is internal process stuff - collecting reports, minor doc updates, starting various pipelines when this and that condition is met, wrangling Jira, etc.The team is chill, both scrum master and manager always assure me I'm doing well, pay is good (for my cunt), I'm full remote, it should be the dream job.But I have not created anything or learned any transferable skill. I'm worried that I'm becoming institutionalized at this corp, and unemployable anywhere else.
Saw this in the paper on Friday lads - would you return to a cubicle? I've been saying the same thing for a while - makes even more sense now that half the people in the office spend all day just taking teams calls from their desks.
>>110106208you are a machine being stored in a warehouse, there will be no cubicles
>>110106208>genzgenzgenzFucking hell americans are mentally ill
>>110106208>Saw this in the paper
>>110106208>Saw this in the paperthe same early millennial / gen x retards that complain about twitter and tiktok gobble this bullshit up
crazy to think that my work laptop alone is like double some euromutt's monthly earnings lol
>be product owner>open ticket because keep getting issues with one part of the integration>goes to "tier 1" >"hellllooooo sirrrr user is calling because they're having issues with the integration and you're the product owner sirrrrr can you helpppp sirrr????"this isn't the first time this happened. I'm actually starting to get quite irritated at this. I don't even know how to make this a "big deal" but I'll never forget when they sent me a ticket because someone was having issues opening their email and had nothing to do with our software.
I decided to take the tox pill>max effort ultracode for everythingwhat are the pros/cons of this move
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>>110106198That's a cool job, where do you work? Some kind of oem, which level?Automotive so I assume you're in Germany, right? I'd like a such job too.
>>110104834>brownas expected
It's Monday, but somehow it feels ominous, today.But I'm too 75iq to figure it out and too dissociated to care.
>>110102642i should present my shit in 6 hoursand maybe i put in like 2 hours of work in the past 2 weeksand i dont even like a pressure to get shit doneits so fucking overthis shit is so fucked
>>110107881Lmao, code monkey cope.System and security rabies don't have such problems, as long as they have any bros. >Business trips>Server room >"Pentesting" and wargames>Auditing
I'm free this week. fucking finally!
is it fine to just text my boss >sorry but i'm outif i feel like leaving?
>Coworker uses vscode in light mode
>>110108623dark mode is for tryhards
>>110108654sounds like you're trying-hard to stress your eyes
I speak slowly in meetings because I WILL NOT be rushed and we WILL speak at a considerate pace, not the blather common to business
>>110108623It makes sense if he's in well-lit room.
>>110108734or he just knows how to configure a monitor correctly
>>110109305configuring a monitor is for tryhards
>>110109468grim
>>110109468Other anon, but desu even on Ubuntu we have devices that do it with few button presses. I never had any problems with that, it's simple enough that hell-deskers can be delegated to that.
>>110081187>I get an online assessment in 4 days due, out of fucking nowhere.That's how it goes. Nothing for months and then suddenly you have a new job.But as someone who's worked at those places I wouldn't bother. The money isn't as much as it sounds and isn't worth it. You won't grow in your career or be challenged technically.
>>110108734>>110108623The theory is that you can feel your iris muscles contracting from light mode but you can't feel the light text in darkmode burning your retinas from overexposure so counter intuitively light mode is better for your eyes long term. I just use the default low contrast neovim 12 theme. It's technically "light mode" but it's a gray on gray light mode.
>>110107755>But I'm too 75iqIronic horny posting is only for intelligent people. If you think you're stupid you shouldn't do it because you'll get it wrong.
>>110110079t. 65 iq
>>110106208I've been enjoying being in person but only because:1) It's in one of the lowest cost of living towns in the state, I was remote and living out of a vehicle before this and would have been PISSED if I had to RTO at my last company2) There are literally two female employees in the entire company, neither of whom work in my department. Me and my coworkers make sexist, racist jokes all the time and no one gets in trouble.3) We're actually allowed to do work and not just fucking around with Jira all day.4) I knew a bunch of the people here from college.If it's some FANG place RTO would suck and I'd probably quit but being in the office here has actually been great for my mental/social health.
>>110100502Wow. The core advice here will inevitably end with you spamming bbc porn on /gif/. That's probably the worst entrepreneur slop video I've seen.
>one of our senior devs was gone last week>was told to take all of his work because it needed to be done by go live on 10/16>worked 18 hour days to get all of my work done (50 tickets in one week)>go live got pushed back from 10/16 to 11/16So I just killed myself for nothing.They can suck my taint if they want me to do anything more than bare minimum this week
Thank god it's monday!
>>110110015I just need 1 or 2 years of a fagman in my resume. Idc if I don't "grow". I already don't grow in my current shitty job. The only downside is I'll probably have to work more hours, even weekends, just to keep up, because I'm slow and forgetful. I'm talking about the infamous 12h a day 6 days a week routine.
>>110110079>Ironic horny posting is only for intelligent people.Jokes on you, I asked SI Grok for what my image means and if it's an appropriate joke for 4channel.
>>110110200Yes this is how corporate works. It's all fake and made up and social engineering games.
>>110110015>But as someone who's worked at those placeswhat do rank-and-file people even do at fagman?i'd imagine small teams take care of a specific, hyper-specialized cog in the entire system.but from what i've gathered, they frequently work 60+ hours a week.do you even need to be above-average for those positions, or is it just well-paid grunt work?
>>110104755yup. you're basically living in poverty.
Jeets don't seem to care about my daily "lunch time block" meeting to myself, so I'm considering setting up 3-4 of those with various time (think 11:30-12:30 + 12:00-12:45 + 11:30-13:30 + 13:00-13:30) so they're less tempted to bother me
>>110111435just put your status as away and ignore them
>>110111440They're setting up important meetings that I'm expected to attend, days in advance
>>110111447Just don't attend the meetings. You will gain infinite Izzat with them and worship you as a brahmin
you have to learn to tame the jeets to be able to work in tech, in some ways you will need to adopt elements of their culture. you are the brahmin and they are the dalit, and you absolutely cannot do the work of a dalit. otherwise they will offload every single part of their job onto youif they ask for help for something, you have to obstruct them at every turn>they give you a support ticket they "need help with"they didnt do a good enough job investigating the issue, give it back to them and tell them to do more>they come back again afterwardstell them to read the docs first and write down what they tried, then come back if it still doesnt work>they come backask them to document what they tried (they didnt do anything so this will take some time for them to go back and do what you told them to last time)>back againnow you can finally start investigating whatever the issue was. however you can absolutely not fix it for them, when you identify how to fix the problem, you tell them what to do and make them do ityou need to treat every interaction with them like this or they will trample over you. treating them like you would a fellow westerner is basically showing servitude to them and you become the dalit
>>110111447so you should decline the meeting and order them to reschedule it
>>110111521I don't want to have to do that every time, I want them doggy trained to avoid that zone
>>110111564they wont be unless you make them start respecting it
Do you ever have days where you do a lot of work but it amounts to nothing? I wanted to do a big refactoring, but it would have been less elegant than the way things currently are, so I did git stash and didn't commit it. Spent most of my day on this
>>110111990>Do you ever have days where you do a lot of workno
>after months of searching, have a good shot at a new position>last interview to be done in the next few days>meanwhile on linkedin i can't find a single other position that comes even close to what i'm looking for
>>110112274>>>/g/utwg
>>110112408emphasis on NEW anon.i'm looking a way out of this place because i see the writing on the wall
What do you guys do with your money? I have a bunch of money collecting interest in a bank and I want to so something useful and productive with it, but I'm not sure what...
>>110112533Build a business. I put very little money into other businesses. All of it goes into my business.
>>110112562>Build a business.Sure. Any suggestions?
>>110112638anything you want. Ignore all the drivel of "find the most profitable business possible". Life is short, and our financial world is gay and fake. The only thing that matters is your happiness and that of your community.
>working on a big oracle to snowflake migration project >create mcp for oracle and snowflake for the ai agent >it finds bugs and fixes changes within 5-7 minutes and makes pull request>play video games for the rest of the dayhow long does the gravy train lasts? i know im getting replaced pretty soon
>>110112940you'll get replaced by the guy that will have to clean up your shartbot agentic slop. I hope they will pay him well
>11 am on a monday>everyone is offline on slack except for me
>>110113055I've literally pushed code that do for loop over 100 million+ rows every single day into production and those jobs take 4-5 hours to complete kekby the time some janny comes to clean it up after seeing the snowflake bill, it will not be my problem
>>110113167+1000 izzat
>>110112649Okay, I'll invest all my money on my community. hopefully god will give me profits.
The \rgbw\ board has its Linux thread. Which one of you is responsible for it?
>spent months unemployed learning proper software engineering practices, how to not do shit incorrectly, how to not build applications with loads of technical debt>had so many moments when I was like "holy shit I should've done that differently at my last job">every ticket that gets assigned to me is like "so we have this huge software limitation because of some massive technical debt issue, and now it's failing in this edge case, fix it without breaking a million other things">codebase is filled with tons of terrible decisions I made at my last job, except now it's at the industrial scale>shit like updates to a database rewrite the entire entry instead of adding / removing the change
Kinda bored, thinking about picking up a J3
Claude and Codex will replace any of you.
>>110114259lol
>>110114259We've got another 2+ years until then. That's 2 years for me to escape higher up the ladder
>>110108623>>110108654I use dark mode for coding and light-grey mode for browsing.>>110110027I agree, but I can't concentrate in light mode. I used to be with light-grey mode for coding as well but I eventually switched.
>>110114259AI will replace dev work but it won't be a transformer based language model and it won't be this decade. Exactly when it will happen is hard to predict as further technological breakthroughs are needed. When it happens you're fucked too by the way. Enjoy competing with all the smart while collar people getting laid off for your minimum wage janitor job lol
I'm amazed by Amazon's unique ability to see another company do something and then get absolutely raped and shat on only to proceed to do the exact same thing. They introduced a new mandatory AI application that's supposed to be run 24-7 that "learns how you work" like Meta. It fucking reads all your emails and slack messages including DMs, with no way to stop it. I tried to add some kind of hard instructions to stop it from reading DMs at least and for emails, HR/Medical check/Salary related shit and it feigned agreement that it will never read them again only for it to add a feed created by a DM by my manager a day later. I watched it walk in circles as it tried to explain how he got access to this information that's only in my DMs with the usual "you are right to push back on this". The whole thing was triggered initially because one of coworkers sent me a joke message saying he wants to die, only for the AI to create an urgent task and spam remainders that the guy is about to kill himself and asked me to call emergency services, kek.
>>110115025Call emergency services anyway, get the guy some free forced holidays.
So how exsctly do you maintain 30000 PRs per day in one codebase?
>>110114259looking forward to that
>>110115025the only way to stop this is to create a cronjob that sends anonymous messages like "i know you are selling customer data" to the people responsible for this
>black coworker calls me cracker>tell hr>they say we will be in touch>never get in touch
>>110115389call them a bunch of crackers
>>110115389Email them back asking for an update. Tell them you'll interpret their lack of disciplinary response as tacit approval from corporate to use racial slurs around the office.
>>110115389call him a nigger
holy shit, what a week huh?
>>110115025>The whole thing was triggered initially because one of coworkers sent me a joke message saying he wants to die, only for the AI to create an urgent task and spam remainders that the guy is about to kill himself and asked me to call emergency services, kek.
>>110115025This is getting into dystopia level,imagine having a little corpo AI komissar constantly looking over your shoulder for corporate wrongthink
>2,000 line function>performUpdate(updateType: ..., fields: ....)
>>110115389Man that sounds annoying
>>110115039Based any boss will take a joke seriously to get you the most benefits from the company as is required by law. My company has family leave in its back pocket for shit like that and we gave a dude 3 days for when his dog got put down.
Does FAGMAN just not hire software engineers anymore? I keep applying to senior and mid level swe positions with 10 yoe and all the experience requirements met and I've never gotten even an initial recruiter screening call with any of them. I followed all the advice on how to get past the ATS filter, added metrics and everything to my resume, but still have zero success with these companies.
I want to port my vibecoded internal app from J1 into J2. I exported my codebase clandestinely ont o my own pc and asked my own claude to make a design doc of it which I will get the J2 clanker to use to rebuild the app. Is there any chance I will get caught?
>>110116685>Does FAGMAN just not hire software engineers anymore?Correct. That's called AI and it has replaced you.
>>110116807Then why do they keep posting all these fake job listings?
>>110116812Probably some bullshit like growth metrics to show useless manager-types that the company is always hiring and/or growing
I got hired at faang recently though
now that I escaped utwg all the comfy songs about depression and failure don't hit as hard
>>110117694Heavy metal and electronic music is more upbeat if you need a tune shift. Although i listen to heavy metal more so when i am pissed doing 18 hour days.
>>110092881What's the pay like?I'll be more than happy to endure that selection process if they guarantee at least 100k
>>110117953>What's the pay like?you'll earn like 150-250k a year>I'll be more than happy to endure that selection processlol they won't accept you. and if they do, you'll be planning an escape strategy within a month.
>>110117953If its amazon its north of 130k most of the time.
>>110103314Can you say that again not being butthurt?
>>1101152341 commit a second over 8h20m on the readme with a counter displaying the current time
>>110117974Turn over 50% within 2 years. I am surprised the company has any employees at both the warehouses and corporate.
I spent 18k a month on tokens. This is 1/4th my paycheck monthly. How is this sustainable?
>>110118559Anons over here making 864k a year
>>110118662Metaverse ain't gonna suck itself.
i dont feel like working anymorewhat do i do? i have enough money to neet for the next 6-12months
>>110118748that's what vacation days are for
>>110118748Thats not enough money even for the next case of layoffs anon.
>>110118748gamble it all
>>110118748I'd kill for your job. Feel better now?
>>110118964NO
>>110117974>>110118493>Turn over 50% within 2 years despite FAANG salariesdamn, what the fuck are they asking you to do there?
>>110118701I thought that was over and done with?
>>110118964no because I realize I have decent job and could easily upgrade andpossibly double my salary and I still don't do nothing i have no passion no determination
>>110119046I promise you they ain't done yet. Kikerberg is willing to sink the ship with every investment.
>>110118559Your company isn't paying a flat rate?
>>110119338>peak hour>9AM
how to fight the tidal wave of slop destroying the codebase? asking for a friend
>>110119639what do you gain from fighting it and what do you lose from embracing it? The AI craze is great, management is literally incentivizing lazy work. Just do things by hand from time to time to not let your skills atrophy, possibly on a hobby project in your free time and not on corposlop
>>110119656>what do you lose from embracing it?nobody buys our slop and the company goes under and I become homeless?
>>110119680Damn sounds like you should look for a new job then.Oh wait, all the fucking companies are using AI so I guess all of them are going to go bankrupt?
>>110119680NIGGER ALERT
6-0 in my work fantasy league, god i love fall season
>>110121125No one at any job I ever held has ever invited me to a fantasy league. Or to anything really.
>>110121125Astrology for men.
>>110121167I made one. All the execs are in it now lol. Going to stomp a member of the board next week hopefully >>110121219I just get the vibe you dont have fun with other people
>>110121167Following up, if no one invites you to stuff then invite people to stuff. You just need to do the initial connection sometimes.
>>110121167Unsurprising result of that “I’m not here to make friends” American office culture
1:1 with my boss in an hour, my performance has dipped significantly and got reprimanded by my PM for leaving for personal errands on the clock. What should I expect?
just had a tense meeting and holy shit, i'm exhausted fuck being a technical lead
I still write most of the code by hand
>>110121696I'm jelly. I'm doing 30-60 tickets per week so AI is mandatory
New>NewNew>New>>110121831>110121831>>110121831>110121831
>>110121468I tried to make friends. I'm just unlikable I guess.
