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Discussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Audio Models

Previous: >>110081695

https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
SDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineage
AniStudio: https://github.com/FizzleDorf/AniStudio
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP
Neural-Pixel (sd.cpp): https://github.com/Luiz-Alcantara/Neural-Pixel

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalers
https://huggingface.co/models
https://huggingbay.xyz
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com
https://openmodeldb.info

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner

>Qwen Image 2.1
https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen-Image-2.1

>Minimax H3
https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MiniMax-H3
https://neta.art/use-cases/en/h3-1000-prompt-list

>Anima
https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
https://animastyles.thetacursed.com
https://tagexplorer.github.io/
https://animadex.net

>Krea 2
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Raw
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo
https://lumenastrum.github.io/clio-style-preview/gallery/

>Klein
https://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2

>Misc
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Collage: https://rentry.org/neo_collage

>Neighbors
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg
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Blessed thread of frenship
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>baked before 250 post
Someone with too much free time is afraid. Please stop seething when other anons do the same nobody here including returning anons are newfags. Also more people read the links like this
>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon

Can't wait to see the new LoRAs anon makes
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>>110084074
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ohnononono it's crying again
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>loses sleep hawking thread for multiple days
>samefags
>rages when normal anons call him out
Yep it's disabo hours
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so..
uh.
can it..
you know...?
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>>110084315
Strange how only debo refers to his enemies as it.
Aww poor disabled NEET not happy over the new release
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>>110084074
Deboshit, troll bake :(
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it's official. i'm not very fond of moss
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>>110084241
gonna bake third run of ashley tomorrow with a different rank and some new pregnant shots, tonights run is for something else
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>>110084387
That's okay you have other models to use.
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>>110084359
I hate all of you niggers
Amongst all of you, one seems to cry the loudest, shockingly always at a specific time
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tran lost
links are no more
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>>110084387
it's a cool little model, also
>The model weights and bundled inference code are released under the Apache License, Version 2.0.
that's pretty cash money of them
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who's building their own FE on top of comfy BE?
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>>110084409
>The model weights and bundled inference code are released under the Apache License, Version 2.0.
i do not understand what this matters. i simply click "start training" and assume everyone else does too
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>>110084366
He can't help himself which makes it more hilarious that he spends his entire life doing this like the old /sdg/ days. I guess oldfags like BMP talking about him really hurts his ego.
>>110084401
Lol suffer disabro
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>>110084415
why would you build your foundation on top of bloated slop?

>>110084419
it matters because community finetunes and sheeeit. some models with potential ended up DoA because of restrictive licenses, people afraid to share loras because of legal issues, etc
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>>110084420
why do you larp as bmp? he hasn't been here in a long time
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>>110084401
> s
thats one person
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waiting for moss-2
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>>110084431
>why would you build your foundation on top of bloated slop?
who the fuck cares retard
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>>110084148
damn this shit pretty fast at 1.8-2.2sec/it
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>>110084448
How did she manage that?
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>debo hijacks thread
>already crying because anons see his garbage gens in OP
Tough place to be, his emotional support negro can't fix that.
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>>110084439
here ya go
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>>110084435
All discordniggers need the axe
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>>110084267
Krea 2 consistently gets the entire style of railing totally wrong relative to what the prompt actually says (unlike other models), and also still has a somewhat incoherent table and chair (like other models)
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>>110084492
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ok so the ecelebs are
catjak, ani, debo
am i missing-
oh yeah ran? and i get a qrd? this shit is confusing
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>>110084217
you lied to me
not even base 50 steps can do it
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>>110084492
my main issue with Krea is the shitty VAE, it makes every texture look like splotchy grainy sand for lack of better words
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>>110084512
nobody takes you seriously VAEschizo.
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someone post good ideas for how to prompt moss
tags only, or also sentences, or some kind of positional stuff i.e. the bbox nonsense in the guide
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>>110084502
Krea2 looks AI generated with AI face, Moss Base looks like a real person in an AI image.
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>>110084522
>VAEschizo
lol that's a new one. i only post in these generals for a couple of days once a new model comes out so impressive pattern recognition on your side
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>>110084557
Yes, every new model release all you talk about is the vae.
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>>110084557
Hes just trolling and grasping at straws don't mind him
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>>110084131
this is not really a complex pose but the base 50 step also struggle with it. So this isn't really custom node problem
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>>110084074
Eww a nigbo gen

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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>>110084590
Just debo things, he got called schizo so much and just throws the word around incorrectly 24/7 and his obsession with naming everyone leads to his annoying rituals.
Just remember the quality of work he produces and understand his mental illness is a crippling life ruining factor for him
>>110084434
Odd cope everyone hates you that's why /sdg/ falls off unless you bump/bot it
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>>110084529
>ignore x!
>but do also report x!
Smoothbrained
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>>110084623
nice taste, i2i or vllm->prompt?
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>>110084599
Who's dat?
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>>110084671
wow! prompt plz?
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>>110084529
Pointing out literal malware is not "drama" anon
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wtf cleopatra was egyptian??
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I don't get the MOSS hype, unless all you generate is 1girl, standing there.. (SDXL era)

It's a good throwback, but SDXL coomer checkpoints are better if your standards are low enough to like MOSS.
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>>110084674
Real estate agent from Canada, small time Instagram influencer, public figure, and juliens sister
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Despite my beef with him I do not condone this. Let that be known despite everything that has taken place unlike that anon including the schizos we combat we have to have a code
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>>110084693
Hot
If you actually have a lora share it
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>>110084692
>apache license
>completely uncensored training dataset
>modern VAE and architecture
>both base and SFT models released
>low enough in params for vramlets to train
yes it's a bit underparametrized and probably undertrained but if this doesn't excite you for local gen you should go back to using ChatGPT image or whatever goonslopmix you normally do
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>>110084692
Well Moss is 5B with a modern architecture and doesn't have built-in censorship to overcome. SDXL finetunes had to overcome the model not even knowing what a penis looks like.
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>>110084692
hi fudnon
get new material
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>>110084707
Shared it a couple threads back, check the archives, or wait till my new and improved one, should be ready in a couple days
>>110084695
Every insufferable personality shitting up ldg will get their share, in due time
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>>110084636
which one is base? which one is spectrum?
can't tell, huh fags? I wonnered
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guess the prompt
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>>110084741
You have to give the prompt if you want us to guess. Spectrum kills prompt adherence.
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>>110084741
i cannot tell. anons that are teasing you are just jealous of your speedups
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>>110084740
You can't do anything to debo that his circumstances hasn't already done to him.
Also I don't condone what you're doing, don't you think being related to Ani is punishment enough?
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>>110084728
What are Krea 2? Ideogram? Don't get me wrong anon, MOSS is nice, let's not pretend it was the first to release with base models that were clearly trained on porn (or at least just enough to push it there with basic decensor LoRAs).
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>>110084754
]A very crude childlike 2D hand drawing of Marisa Kirisame kicking toward Reimu Hakurei, while Reimu raises both hands to block the kick.

Drawn like a young child with poor drawing skills: extremely simple shapes, awkward anatomy, stiff poses, uneven proportions, oversized heads, short limbs, wobbly black outlines, shaky hand-drawn strokes, messy linework, flat crude colors, almost no shading, no perspective, no depth, no detailed background, no polished anime rendering.

The characters should only be loosely recognizable from their iconic hats, hair, and clothing colors. The drawing looks like it was made quickly with cheap colored pencils and markers on plain white paper, amateur, naive, clumsy, imperfect, and intentionally unsophisticated.
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>>110084741
>>110084778
Not much to work with but left is the better gen.
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>>110084764
I always love it when someone has a tantrum over a new choice. Why are you having a crisis over people not using Krea? I don't know why you're personally invested in a fucking model.
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whats the point of the minimax h3 merges i see on civitai?
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>>110084074
>mfw Resource news

10/16/2026

>MOSS-Image: Text-to-Image Generation with Native Layout Control
https://openmoss.ai/MOSS-Image

>MOSS-image ComfyUI Repackage
https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MOSS-Image

>MiniMax-H3 Sol Engine in ComfyUI
https://github.com/NVlabs/Sana/tree/sol-engine/models/minimax_h3/Sol-H3-ComfyUI

>lodestones / MOSS-Image-SFT-8-steps-dmd
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/MOSS-Image-SFT-8-steps-dmd/blob/main/lora.safetensors

>FLUX.3 Klein RefMods
https://huggingface.co/datasets/malcolmrey/various/blob/main/flux3klein/docs/FLUX3_KLEIN.md

>Sakura — FLUX.3 Image Klein text encoder, uncensored (GGUF)
https://huggingface.co/webmp3/Sakura-FLUX.3-Image-Klein-TextEncoder-Uncensored-GGUF

>SCOPE: Semantic Bounded Credit Optimization for Prompt Engineering in Text-to-image Generation
https://github.com/MAC-AutoML/SCOPE

>Which Tokens to Merge? Diffusion Dynamics for Efficient Image Generation
https://github.com/SeungJuCha/DaTMe

>Beyond Pairwise Repulsion: Collective Diversity via Determinant Maximization in Diffusion Sampling
https://github.com/mobled37/DetNO

>Seeing Both the Forest and the Trees: Reusing Holistic 3D Priors for Part-Decomposed Generation
https://zhao-yiqun.github.io/structparts

>Purify Before You Align: Improving Representation Alignment for Diffusion Models
https://yingheng-wang.com/LAP

>MYOPIA: Understanding the Limits of Tree-Based Reasoning in Vision-Language Models
https://github.com/islammesabah/VLM_Classification

>Valtz: Native macOS app for generative creation and composition, powered by Vpipe
https://github.com/tgo-app-dev/valtz

>ComfyUI v0.41.0 released
https://github.com/Comfy-Org/ComfyUI/releases/tag/v0.41.0

10/15/2026

>FLUX 3 Image: Maximum control over every pixel
https://bfl.ai/models/flux-3-image

>FLUX.3 Image Klein in Diffusers
https://huggingface.co/blog/flux-3

>FLUX 3 Image Klein for ComfyUI
https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/flux-3-image-klein-comfy
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>>110084799
buzz farming.
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>>110084764
>MOSS is nice
hypothetically speaking, where could a person find "MOSS"?
i checked out for a goon sesh when BFL shit the bed, and i come back and idk wtf people are talking about.
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>>110084805
fuck is there anything more pathetic than those guys?
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>>110084800
Fuck off thread schizo
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>>110084800
>mfw Research news

10/16/2026

>Temporal Specification Guidance for T2V Generation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.20822

>Sparse Attention for Video Generation Acceleration via Growing Sparsity and Reduced Search
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21129

>UltraDiff: Transferring High-Fidelity Priors to Compressed Latent Spaces for High-Resolution Image Generation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21202

>Intern Lumina U2: A Multi-Codebook Diffusion LLM for Omni-Visual Understanding and Image Generation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.20818

>FeaTok: Feature-Loss Tokenization for Image Generation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.22060

>ACEdit: Stable Multi-Turn Image Editing via Asymmetric Conditioning
https://saradorfman1.github.io/ACEdit

>RIGen: Beyond Action Following with Reciprocal Interaction in Generative Gameplay
https://murphylmf.github.io/RIGen

>Routing Policy Optimization for Online Diffusion Reinforcement Learning
https://velox-world.com/rpo

>Velox: Spatial Memory Makes World Models Efficient
https://velox-world.com/velox

>Not Just a Subject: Capturing Adaptive Scene-Specific Variance for Visual Storytelling
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.22320

>ManiFusion: Unlocking the High-Throughput Generation via Superposition in Manifold Space
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21433

>Speculative Forcing for Efficient Autoregressive Video Generation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.22347

>EigDiff: Eigensample Diffusion - or how to significantly reduce training dataset size with performance variation?
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.20999

>SoftCache: Adaptive Step Size Caching for DiTs
https://malnick.net/softcache

>Rethinking Classifier-Free Guidance for TI2I Flow Matching
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21550

>FocusOPD: Structure-Guided On-Policy Distillation for Diffusion Models
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21250

>SUPRA-TEX: 3D Generation with Super-Aligned Texture
https://supra-3d.github.io/supratex

>Reinforcement Learning-driven Diffusion Models
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21539
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>don't you think being related to Ani is punishment enough?
Apparently its not enough since he still pops into these threads to stir up shit. Next step after capturing 95% likeness with my new Lora will be to pay seo ranking sites so her skimpy bikini gens come up on the first page when you search her name, that is if he doesn't stop bothering ldg and backs off.
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we should support ani
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>>110084835
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>>110084835
Based
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>>110084794
left is [spoiler]spectrum[/spoiler]
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>>110084830
>>110084800
Hi disabled schizo any plans for the weekend?
It's Crazy you do this still after all these years because the mod used to ban you for posting
>mfw
in every thread
>>110084835
You're being baited by debo
Post like the pepe spam and
>>110084850
Are him
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>>110084835
I think what you're doing sounds highly illegal anon. Is this a threat to distribute deepfakes if some anon doesn't stop posting here? Isn't thgat like extortion or something?
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>>110084878
LTX might be really fucky but you can't say it doesn't have soul.
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based chinks blowing bloatmodel enjoyers the fuck out
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>>110084887
There are lots of Lora's of small time influencers on websites like huggingface

>>110084880
As I've said I'm not just going after ani, I'm just not gonna play all of my cards just yet
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busy thread did we get something new?
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>>110084880
you should take your meds
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>>110084918
You're wasting your time with debo just saying. Who else is on the bingo board?
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>>110084797
Not a tantrum. The hype is just nonsensical. I can understand hype over decent models that can do something new. Not mediocre models. Like people shitted on Flux 3 Klein, rightfully so, but it'd be an even better base to train than MOSS image, even if it's censored sinply because it better understands more concepts. Both are mediocre models not worth training.
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glad we're all supporting anistudio now
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>>110084936
It's a tantrum and you should get your depression checked if other people getting mildly excited over something new makes you upset.
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i use anistudio
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>>110084926
You should take your meds and be sent to a group home :)
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>>110084936
What's mediocre about Moss?
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only about 3.5 years and we can maybe finally use moss (in anistudio)
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>better understands more concepts
like a woman lying in the grass?
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>>110084967
Is ani too poor to use an AI agent to finish the project?
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>>110084962
They clearly hate the fact that it's apache 2.0 license, can do nsfw out of the box and is uncensored with decent anime knowledge/booru knowledge.
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>>110084984
i think the ai wouldn't understand the very advanced concepts in anistudio
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>>110084894
they are cuts from 40 second generations which causes the motion to get jittery at times, but there is always something cool in each video
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>>110084973
did anyone try this with moss? I'm permanently scarred from the Flux3 one
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>>110084918
Very based
Rooting for you
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>>110084671
this one's really good...
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>>110084671
hit me with a proompt, anon
help a brother out
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>>110084962
Very poor background details. Bad eyes. Plastic skin. Low coherency. Typical SDXL-tier AI slop. This can't be fixed with LoRAs nor finetunes, it would need to be placed back in the oven.
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>>110085031
*smacks hood*
But this AI face on Krea. Peak.
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>>110084680
>>110085024
>>110085030
It's krea2 :)
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>>110085047
You gonna give us the prompt?
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>>110085031
Okay, well go use Krea or Qwen
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Guys i believe bigma is cancelled...
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>>110085031
your favorite bloatmodel will be dead and forgotten, you have been left behind
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>>110085065
Believe in your heart.
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>>110084950
>>110084954
Congratulations on getting -1 github stars over the last year
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>>110085044
Krea's greatest perk is that it's not undercooked. That's why it's better than every model that came before it. That's why it's better than GPT. The prompt can get as complex as you'd like, with as many subjects and items as you desire, and it will still look coherent. It also happens to be one of the best style transfer/edit models in existence, can be used to refine even MOSS image generations.
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>>110085057
I don't have it.
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kreafags on suicide watch
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>>110085124
Do you know what's cool with being able to finetune a model? You can cook it. 5B is cookable. 12B. No, not without renting datacenter GPUs.
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I've been posting Krea2 images posing as MOSS.
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>>110084800
>>110084830
Thanks for the news. Have you considered publishing to a single pastebin each day so all the news is archived for later reference?
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krea identity edit v2 is out:

https://huggingface.co/conradlocke/krea2-identity-edit
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>>110085012
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>>110085144
What do you not understand about the fact that it doesn't matter if you can finetune a model if it's base weights are undercooked?
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cozy threas
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>>110085159
Do you realize you can finetune with 5 million images right?
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>>110085124
don't forget that making lora's for it is both easy enough that the biggest retard can do it since it learns incredibly well and it can be done on low vram hardware
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>>110085141
krea2 had a good run. if MOSS is the new king, so be it.
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>>110085166
Let me see your 5 million images dataset anon.
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it's over for kreafags
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>>110085178
gemini 4 argon is legit amazing at captioning and is pretty uncensored so it would not be that hard for people to make one
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all i see is two cakes
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This thread is making me lose braincells.
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>>110085178
Are you saying it's impossible to get a dataset? The premise is retarded.
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>the random seething of being able to train an underbaked model
I remember this same conversation about Anima, but it was about it being untrainable
Make up your mind schizo
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moss's bbox prompting is better than ideograms btw
https://files.catbox.moe/7sbb6z.png
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>>110085199
Consider EGG
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>>110085152
yeah great fucking way of skirting around the problem, not showing if there is a weakness or not
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the end of krea is here
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>>110085214
I unfortunately have an egg intolerance.
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>>110085209
Just debo things he's been doing this for years
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would someone getting good outputs please catbox me a wf so I can stop tweaking things in frustration and anger
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>>110085151
>https://huggingface.co/conradlocke/krea2-identity-edit
I tried the V1 of this when it came out but found it pretty lacking in terms of edit capabilities.
Like it supports only a very limited number of specific editing instructions otherwise it just doesn't work at all.
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>>110085057
just recreate it
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>>110085264
I would if I had the prompt
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I don't understand why they release something like Flux 3 in that state. Did they learn nothing with the SD3 disaster?
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>>110085249
Looks good. I haven't tried moss yet, did you include any descriptions for the skin/complexion? Looks realistic/detailed and not shit like previous models.
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>>110085226
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>>110085269
I wonder what kind of technology >>110085249
used to recreate the prompt? hmmm???? if only??
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Should I train the lora on base or STF
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>>110085288
always train on base, use on RL
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is there really a lora of ani's sis?
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i'm assuming for MOSS in ostris i should train on base and not SFT?
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>>110085249
>>110085152
>>110085126

Can you explain to us why you are reposting krona gens from lodestones discord server as your own moss image gens?
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>>110085259
yeah v1 was pretty bad too and this one has an extra commercial license tacked onto it so im guessing its just one dude trying to get into the edit model race and make some money
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>>110085319
can you provide a screenshot of the image in the discord? :)
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>>110085319
Are you on both 4chan and discord? How is that possible?
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>>110085319
>discord
i'm not gay. sorry
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>>110085319
but the two images you compared in your image are different, care to explain that?
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>>110085319
finally someone understands that there's a massive moss shill campaign happening right now
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>>110085319
>discord
>lodestone
>spent time making a collage
YWNBAW
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>>110085273
3 is not a good number for them
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https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MOSS-Image
It's up!
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>>110085273
Safety is important. Please think of the children living in latent space.
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>>110085269
A highly realistic high-angle close-up photograph of a young adult woman in a classic black bunny-girl costume, lying prone on a glossy white studio floor and looking directly up into the camera.The camera is positioned high above her face, looking steeply downward. Her face is centered and dominates the composition, while her shoulders, upper torso, forearms, bent legs, and black heels remain visible around the edges. Keep the head and body in natural proportion, avoiding wide-angle enlargement.She has soft strawberry-blonde hair with loose waves and side-swept bangs, pale fair skin, subtle freckles across the nose and cheeks, light gray-green eyes, long eyelashes, softly flushed cheeks, and slightly parted glossy lips. Her expression is calm, curious, and gently seductive.She wears tall glossy black bunny ears, a black patent-leather bunny bodysuit with a low neckline, a white collar with a small glossy black bow tie, sheer black thigh-high stockings with lace tops, black heels, and white wrist cuffs.She is in a relaxed frog pose, supported on both forearms, hands resting naturally near the bottom of the frame, knees bent outward behind her, thighs moderately spread, lower legs angled back, and both feet raised. Her body forms a balanced triangular composition around the face.Lighting is bright, soft studio lighting from above and slightly in front, with broad diffused illumination, neutral white balance, soft shadows, subtle glossy highlights on the skin, and reflections on the black latex and white floor.Extremely realistic skin texture: visible fine pores, subtle peach fuzz, natural freckles, faint tonal variation, soft subsurface scattering, delicate redness around cheeks and joints, realistic skin translucency, no plastic smoothing or airbrushed appearance.Full-frame photography, 50mm lens, high-angle perspective, shallow depth of field, eyes critically sharp, clean white seamless studio background, polished photographic realism
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>>110085353
lol>>110085366
right on que
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>>110085353
>>110085374
Insane BFL cope
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>>110085366
wan2gp chads already had it for hours
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>it must be a shill campaign if anon enjoys a new model
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>I HAVE NO LIFE AND I MUST FUD
*yawn*
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>>110085353
your retard brain doesn't realize there's nothing to shill, it's free, open sourced, apache licensed, they're not trying to sell you anything
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>>110085378
LOOOOOL nice try typical sure both are bad but we're better campaign, as if those two are the only choice
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krea house of cards collapsing
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Can't wait for my 20% commission on the free model.
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The only good thing I've seen MOSS do so far is that furry bboxing otherwise it seems extremely mid.
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>>110085369
Thanks a lot, my brother-in-coom
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Whenever debo gets visited by his social worker all of this trolling ceases. This is why he hates the rentry links. Not that it really does anything it just stops newfags from asking the same question.
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>>110085403
The fact you're comparing it against a model more than twice the size shows it's good.
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so this is the successor to sdxl?
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>>110085319
retard. It was a comparison between the models. Are you blind
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not so fast, krea3 is just around the corner
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>>110085420
My statement wasn't a comparison.
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>guise WTF they released a LOCAL model where you won't need a 5090 and 64 GB RAM to train your own lora, how do we stop this
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lodestone lora
sft_int8_convrot_attn
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>>110085442
Won't somebody plz think of Jensen's paycheck
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>>110085438
It's obvious based on the other statements in this thread, everyone is comparing it against Krea. I already know you're a disingenuous faggot and a liar.
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>>110085395
Here comes damage control.
It's afraid.
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This trains fast
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>>110085445
I've posted anima gens posing as MOSS and you retards can't even tell. So no, I wasn't comparing it to krea specifically.
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yo why these ee ee aah goofy ngas always here to ragebait whenever sum new drops?
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>MOSSad
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>>110085470
???
I really feel sorry for you anon. This is really a weird way to spend your time.
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>>110085473
lelz, no wonder, they always seem to have unlimited astroturfing budget
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>>110085319
I literally named both models and said it was a comparison between them for the same prompt. Are you retarded or trolling
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>>110085485
>Are you retarded or trolling
This is too high effort to be troll.
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>wtf guise this might mean the plebs that don't own a 5090 might be able to do things with that model again like in 1.5 and XL days, how is this allowed
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Even though the model is smaller so many people here got used to turbo and can't function without it anymore. Back in my day I used to have to wait 5-15 minutes for a single gen
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>>110085499
Keep pretending like you needed a 5090 to run any of the models released in the last 6 months.
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>>110085275
The quality is so random, with body horror in between
It probably needs a prompt enhancer
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any model better than anima yet?
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>>110085525
>run
Most people want to do more than run a base model.
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>>110085534
no it's literal perfect
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>>110085534
for danbooru artists and niche characters? not yet, at least for local
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is moss censored?
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>>110085499
the worry is real if the underlying model is limited or faulty that training LoRAs will be pointless, guess time will tell
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>rushing for the next bake
he gets tired with the revived speed of /ldg/
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>>110085529
No, it just needs a list of negative prompts. Use this model like a SDXL / SD 1.5 model.

Use tag prompting alongside the natural language. So include your masterpiece, best quality, absurd res...

And for negative use your jpeg artifacts, bad anatomy, bad quality...
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>>110085517
we live in the age of iterative prompting now, unc
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>>110085557
see >>110085553
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>>110085563
Yes and I adapted and have a boss rig
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I do remember the days of using CARDOS anime and waiting 30min on my final tiled high-res pass.
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>>110085480
yeah with US tax dollars
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>>110085561
malformed, amputee, amputated, missing fingers, extra fingers... If your negative prompt isnt a novel your doing it wrong.
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Similar behavior from 4 days ago, whoever it is, he was in a hurry to get the thread to its bump limit
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if your workflow has less than 10 adetailer nodes lower your tone when speaking to me
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>>110085588
It's a price they're willing to pay
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>>110085592
Are you being cringe on purpose?
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>>110085556
same as a professional doomer I am 100% positive that the model is flawed and it just haven't been discovered yet, local can't have nice things
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>>110085561
>all newly released models are forcing you to go through the old SD days
lel
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>>110085612
I prefer it to models that clean their dataset. Means you need to prompt out the shitty images but you get a MUCH more capable model. It knows everything.
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>>110085592
His only function is to cause chaos. He hijacked the thread and is still seething like I said he would do because anons still won't accept him.
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>>110085612
The alternative is Minimax H3 style prompting. Pick your poison.
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krea on its last legs
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>>110085603
no, you?
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Upscaled F2 Kleins 9B vs native high res F3 Kleins
F3 Kleins backgrounds are so sloppa
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>>110085561
Booru tags are for anime shit
I don't see it do anything for realism
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>>110085624
>It knows everything.
It's promising, especially with LoRAs assuming they work out. However that's a big IF at this point people are spoiled by Krea2 where you can just stack boatload of LoRAs and it would just work nicely.
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>>110085652
>models getting more slopped as time progresses
what do they mean by this
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>>110085652
F3 has that same ultra denoised "detail" that ChatGPT Image has.
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>>110085677
more safety = worse model
every model that goes hard with the sfw safety shit has this problem now.
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>>110085633
ideogram prompting
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>>110085677
It's only gonna get worse from here on out as the datasets get more synthmaxxed. The last models to have mostly not synthetic datasets were SD3 / SD3.5. If you properly recapationed that exact data and trained a new model with a not-broken architecture on it I'm 100% positive it'd be way better looking than anything we've seen locally to date.
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>>110085724
It definitely has nothing to do with safety, it's purely a product of synthmaxxing in general
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>>110085724
It's because to truly red team a model you have to lobotomize it, you have to purposely make certain prompts worse. It's not enough for them to censor the dataset, they have to censor the prompts too and to do that they purposely train it to be adversarial.
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>>110085471
lolcow general
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>>110085768
That makes no sense, how the fuck would cityscape backgrounds be impacted by this.
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Say what you want about MOSS but it's sure nice to have /ldg/ become lively again. Even if just for a short while.
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>>110085786
Because the weights degrade with conflicting signals and it's not like a model is smart, if you train nude = clothes which is a conflicting signal, it's going to degrade.
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>>110085795
I agree it also makes certain people suffer because they get ignored
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Anyone make any LoRAs yet?
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>>110085795
As a professional doomer with lots o experience I am sure there will a be a flaw that'll make the model unsuitable, but at least nice to have the potential of a new good model that isn't some quadrillion b blob for a while.
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>>110085845
The FUD poster has been doing this for years. If you look in /sdg/ you can understand how mentally ill posters can be here
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>>110085831
is this moss?
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>>110085836
deepfakes are illegal so I would never
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>>110085839
burger bun, american cheese, and a beef patty
there's something poetic about the simplest burger
yes sometimes you want them with all the extra bits and pieces, but this type of burger hits hard when you're just hungry and want something nice
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>>110085851
you replied to him
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>>110085852
no that's Apu Apustaja
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how early is the bake going to be this time
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>>110085868
The schizo got intercepted by seconds lol
Expect debo to meltdown
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3 goddamn minutes for this?
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>>110085879
Not on my hardware
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>>110085876
At least the schizo made a collage.
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>>110085876
>The schizo got intercepted by seconds
Weird, on my screen the schizobake with the slop troll image was up 10 seconds faster
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>>110085876
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>anon deleted his bake that came second
>debo will not delete his late bake and shit his pants
Pay attention now
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>another failed attempt to rush the thread
LOL
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its up
>>110085847
>>110085847
>>110085847
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>>110085853
>freshly 18
>already post wall
Fuck this hell on earth we inhabit
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>>110085912
it's fucking raw
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>>110085912
Sorry but this thread came second
>>110085843
>>110085843
>>110085843
>>110085843
Next bake, have some dignity and delete the extra thread
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my mobile client doesnt tell me seconds, only hours and minutes for posts. can anon tell me which was baked firstest? i will post in the real bake with links regardless desu.
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>>110085934
always follow the collage
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>>110085928
stop using your avatar for your bakes, retarded bitch
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we are in the collage thread
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>>110085934
This thread came first
>>110085843
The troll baker is having a meltdown and is trying to flood the catalog again making duplicate threads.
Guess he doesn't like getting intercepted when he bakes ultra early
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absolutely insane website lmao
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>>110085961
>The troll baker is having a meltdown and is trying to flood the catalog again making duplicate threads.
yeah like the one you linked https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/110084132
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>>110085978
NTA but I had the decency to delete my thread when it was second. I'm not trying to flood
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>>110085988
i dont get it. you deleted it and then reposted it?
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>>110085988
for the record, this guy does ip-hop to potentially spam threads.
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>>110086022
The OP image the rest is correct
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Why is he seething?
He baked early and lost because the other anon caught wind of his early baking. Why is this schizo so fragile?
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>>110085369
liked yours a bit better than the descrip i got from my local clanker. asian eyes were strong in moss so i gave her a more western sounding name on top of sdxl-tier negs
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