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Discussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Audio Models

Previous: >>110100880

https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
SDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineage
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP
Neural-Pixel (sd.cpp): https://github.com/Luiz-Alcantara/Neural-Pixel

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalers
https://huggingface.co/models
https://huggingbay.xyz
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com
https://openmodeldb.info

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner

>MOSS
https://github.com/OpenMOSS/MOSS-Image

>F3K
https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/flux-3-image-klein

>Qwen Image 2.1
https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen-Image-2.1

>MiniMax H3
https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MiniMax-H3
https://neta.art/use-cases/en/h3-1000-prompt-list

>Anima
https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
https://animastyles.thetacursed.com
https://tagexplorer.github.io/
https://animadex.net

>Krea 2
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Raw
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo
https://lumenastrum.github.io/clio-style-preview/gallery/

>Misc
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Collage: https://rentry.org/neo_collage

>Neighbors
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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>>110103224
Smash
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MOSS thread. Only MOSS gens below this line


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F3K doesn't seem worth it? Or am I wrong.
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>schizobake without collage
>avatartroon slop
At this point he just likes being humiliated for his absolutely embarrassing and cringe inducing slop while stirring up drama
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MOSS is a fundamentally flawed model that cannot be taught concepts with LORAS. you might as well use stock kroma
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>mfw Resource news

10/17/2026

>MOSS-Image-Base, 8-step data-space DMD
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/MOSS-Image-Base-8-steps-dmd

>MOSS-Image-SFT (INT8 ConvRot) for ComfyUI
https://huggingface.co/Abiray/MOSS-Image-SFT-INT8-convrot

>Run Models Optimally On Your Local NVIDIA AI System
https://nvidia.github.io/local-ai-inference-recipes

10/16/2026

>MOSS-Image: Text-to-Image Generation with Native Layout Control
https://openmoss.ai/MOSS-Image

>MOSS-image ComfyUI Repackage
https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MOSS-Image

>MiniMax-H3 Sol Engine in ComfyUI
https://github.com/NVlabs/Sana/tree/sol-engine/models/minimax_h3/Sol-H3-ComfyUI

>lodestones / MOSS-Image-SFT-8-steps-dmd
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/MOSS-Image-SFT-8-steps-dmd/blob/main/lora.safetensors

>FLUX.3 Klein RefMods
https://huggingface.co/datasets/malcolmrey/various/blob/main/flux3klein/docs/FLUX3_KLEIN.md

>Sakura — FLUX.3 Image Klein text encoder, uncensored (GGUF)
https://huggingface.co/webmp3/Sakura-FLUX.3-Image-Klein-TextEncoder-Uncensored-GGUF

>SCOPE: Semantic Bounded Credit Optimization for Prompt Engineering in Text-to-image Generation
https://github.com/MAC-AutoML/SCOPE

>Which Tokens to Merge? Diffusion Dynamics for Efficient Image Generation
https://github.com/SeungJuCha/DaTMe

>Beyond Pairwise Repulsion: Collective Diversity via Determinant Maximization in Diffusion Sampling
https://github.com/mobled37/DetNO

>Seeing Both the Forest and the Trees: Reusing Holistic 3D Priors for Part-Decomposed Generation
https://zhao-yiqun.github.io/structparts

>Purify Before You Align: Improving Representation Alignment for Diffusion Models
https://yingheng-wang.com/LAP

>MYOPIA: Understanding the Limits of Tree-Based Reasoning in Vision-Language Models
https://github.com/islammesabah/VLM_Classification

>Valtz: Native macOS app for generative creation and composition, powered by Vpipe
https://github.com/tgo-app-dev/valtz

>ComfyUI v0.41.0
https://github.com/Comfy-Org/ComfyUI/releases/tag/v0.41.0
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>mfw Research news

10/17/2026

>DINO-FIL: Multi-Layer Transformer Fusion for Generative Inpainting Forgery Localization
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21780

>From Sketch to Scene: Relightable Garment Reconstruction from Marked Sketches
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21865

>Efficient Scene-Text Refinement via Pixel-Space Grouped Image Generation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.18284

>RepForcing: Representation-Space Initialization for Autoregressive Video Distillation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.20111

>LoopREG: Representation Supervision Enables Test-Time Recurrent Depth in Diffusion Transformers
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.17877

>EmoGenie: Benchmarking and Evaluating Expressed and Evoked Emotion in T2I Generation with MLLMs
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.18455

>WaveMark: Robust Wavelet-Domain Image Watermarking for Diffusion Models
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.12952

>Scaling Unified Multimodal Models to Long-Horizon Interleaved Generation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.17080

>Towards Cost-Efficient Video Dataset Construction with Large Language Models
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.16857

>Image Tokenizers Should Be Trained Between Images
https://graphics.cs.uni-tuebingen.de/papers/interptok

>PLAYGROUND: Progressive Layout Generation with Render-Grounded Planning
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.18865

>Efficient Fréchet Distributional Decoder Alignment for Latent Generative Models
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.17466

>Cross-Prompt Inference Mitigates Rare-Class Suppression in Imbalanced VLM Finetuning
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21470

>AdaLoop: Thinking with the Vision Encoder
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21323

>NOFACE3D: NOise-scheduled Focused Anchoring and Controlled Enhancement for 3D Generation
https://idkcouscous.github.io/NoFACE3D

>VAttnPO: Visual Attention-Guided Policy Optimization
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.16735

>Making Transformers Logical
https://arxiv.org/abs/2608.00418
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>>110103224
I tried fixing the logo of the pic I saw recently on here, but I messed up some other text...
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>>110103227
Retards? Trolls? And other vile creature? Yes, unfortunately I know.
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>>110103224
Can you please stop putting your gens in the OP? This is really, really cringe, lolcow-tier attentionwhore behavior. Put someone else's pic, or do a collage.
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Blessed thread of frenship
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>>110103270
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Moss is fucking shit. Bots shilled it hard.
"Can do literally anything"
Can't even do a basic blowjob kek.
Another Krea 2. DOA.
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>>110103270
>...
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>>110103156
i gave the model a fair chance and i see no krea2 killer at all. The flux 2 vae doesn't automatically make the model better than krea2. There plenty of community finetuned qwen vae models that can be used instead of the default original one. My standards have grown high and i can't tolerate the results I'm getting with the namine moss image lora. If the lora training can't be solved and figured out within the 3 weeks of this model's initial hype then it will slowly decline into irrelevance like ernie, boogu and ideogram 4. Good luck moss bros, i wish you and the devs the best. I understand the appeal of this model but for me its too unstable, inconsistent and painfully slow for image generation.
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you can just ask me to make you a bj pic with moss its okay
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>>110103313
Its garbage. They called it the new SDXL lmao.
True it is, The amount of body horror.
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>>110103313
Do you think you could use a name so I can highlight all your future posts?
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I know turbo fuck up H3 voice, but is there any way to stop them from talking as if they were underwater?
Sometimes I get perfect dialogue sometimes it's fucked up. No idea why
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>>110103313
Besides your disgusting obsession do you think it's fair to judge a model based on it's lora under week one?
People have found better ways to train Krea2 over time also I honestly believe your not prompting correctly.
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>>110103337
lolz he always posts that shitty LoRA thing in every thread try to filter that out
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kreafags at denial stage
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>>110103344
NTA but the image quality is also dogshit.
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you guys dont understand
his princess rape fetish gens need to be perfect!
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mass promptlet suicide
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>>110103347
Mossfags will be lucky to get to denial stage.
ZITFags keep winning
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>>110103339
I think its the problem with prompting wasn't it, you need to add non diogesic sounds N/A at the end or something like that, if you dont specify it adds random noises
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please ignore the random brand wars schizo, he's really lonely.
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looks like the anon who said "ill come back in a week to see if anon is still seething over moss. thats how i know its kino" mightve been onto something...
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it's over z-image won
>xijingpinggigachad.jxl
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anywhere i can download all tags from gelbooru or danbooru? especially at the time anima was trained? i want to look them up offline
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>>110103380
i know how but i wont tell you
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>>110103358
>ZITFags keep winning
Literally who
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>>110103252
>>110103260
Fuck off nigbo no one likes you
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>>110103380
ask claude or codex to do it for you
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>>110103380
I'll tell you how but it will be completely made up
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>>110103304
Moss shilling is absolutely relentless. I don't think I've ever seen a model getting astroturfed as hard as this piece of dogshit.
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>genning is faster if i turn sage off
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What should I prompt?
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>>110103236
It isnt even better than kroma shut the fuck up
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>>110103396
lolz they are way too woke for that
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>>110103406
cunny like everyone else that's not posting
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Can moss do pee pee poo poo? And what about brappity braps?
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>>110103404
That looks fucking awful.
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>>110103404
This looks fucking great, is this thread filled with BFL employees or something that they need to diss everything
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>>110103418
no it's just ani
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>>110103410
nope. thats how i got booru autocomplete to work in my own frontend. codex did it for me

theyre fine with setting up the tools to do naughty stuff just not the naughty stuff itself

or theyll do stuff close to the naughty stuff if youre nice and dont put off the vibes of being a creepy coomer unironically
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Why the fuck do loras have trigger words, nigger just apply yourself when I have you toggled on.
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>>110103313
I like the nice aesthetics out-of-the-box, but there's a lot of anatomy problems, limbs, teeth etc. Will try some lora training once OneTrainer has it, but I'm not too optimistic.
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>>110103424
hideous
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>>110103418
AI psychosed retards have been spamming /g/ for like.. a week now?
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>>110103414
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/110098837/#q110099121
Anons have done scat though too, yes.
>>110103428
>Why the fuck do loras have trigger words,
because trainers are retarded
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>>110103434
>a week
are you new?
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>>110103428
they used to be required for dumber models AFAIK, now it's just a trend by people used to that old way, even though natural language processing is the new normal
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>>110103429
>Will try some lora training once OneTrainer has it
i think it was pushed earlier today
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>>110103406
mlm
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>>110103418
these images are very unsafe
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>>110103462
you don't mind the faggots in bikinis though
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>>110103410
Gelbooru and danbooru, while they have porn, can be used by non coomers, so any task simple can be "help me make a tool that gets the tags used on X/Y/Z boorus based on this cutoff time". And if you're still afraid, use GLM 5.3. It will do basically anything if it's legal.
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>>110103452
Nice!
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>>110103347
don't mind waiting to a true high quality moss gens that BTFOs krea2. This model is more a z image base/turbo killer than a krea2 killer.
>>110103344
i said 3 weeks buddy. That the make it and break it for the usual hype cycle for ai models. Remember the average checked out person who isn't fully in-tune with the day to day ai news is a cattle that just wants to follow the herd for his or her connivence. krea2 is already a hard sell for majority of people on civitai who either train loras locally or use the civitai trainer. Good luck getting weebs to latch on to this model. people prefer stability and predictability over constant dice rolling and gambling with their time just to get the solid result.
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local models can't do animated sprites.

It's a grift useless tech.
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>>110103244
and before bump limit
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>a young european woman
it's over
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>>110103511
Krea 2 is 12B parameters and Moss is 5B. They're two different cakes. And here's the cool thing: you can use Krea, no one fucking cares what model you use.
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>>110103313
moss gens have soul
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>>110103536
>no one fucking cares what model you use
despite this he will continue to post as if his jeet follower count means hes an authority on the matter
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>>110103346
what was the funny name anon called him recently? bindindu or something? kekd hard
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>>110103548
He's right tho.
Jeet or no Jeet, he is correct.
Moss DOA
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>anons asks about pee poo and fart capabilities
>gets answer
>be me askimg if cute pp's are possible
>gets ignored
mean
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it's way too slow just to get disappointed by fingy slop
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>>110103592
Yeah that's why 90% of images on Reddit is Moss and everyone likes it.
>b-but the background isn't 100% perfect
We're not trying to scam old people with fake Instagram accounts.
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MOSS does painted styles better than any other model out of the box. I'm not sure how usable it's going to be for me in the long run but it's definitely refreshing.
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>>110103620
>chatgpt youtube thumbnail slop
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>>110103620
also way better at cosplay. krea2 only has like a couple faces it always uses
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>>110103638
Krea 2 has very obvious AI face, just like Flux. Moss makes real people with real faces out of the box.
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>use moss for base image, or zit, or krea2, or whatever
>edit it with klein edit 9b or qwen edit 2.1
you aren't limited to 1 model btw.
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>>110103534
what's uneuropean about her?
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>>110103649
No everyone must use the same model and workflow as me or I'll feel inadequate. I must have social consensus ideally aligned with my favorite streamer.
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I'm trying to figure out why the retard keeps trying to create imaginary brand wars over free shit like AI models. You really have to feel bad for someone that pathetic.
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>>110103649
id rather do something like krea2 for complex base and use anima as a style refiner but haven't messed with refining workflows yet
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>>110103685
Anima will shit the bed on the refiner pass,
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>>110103693
maybe ill try out that krea2 identity edit thing, couldn't get qwen to transfer style
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>>110103650
that's obviously an iraqi
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BFL also released a bunch of robotics models. Imagine running a robot on that.
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>>110103707
You're going to have to train a lora for things like that
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>>110103708
what
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>>110103252
>>110103260
Thanks bro you're the only reason i still visit this schizo hellhole
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>>110103710
They got bodied by a much smaller model, I don't think they can come back from this after getting cucked in all the modals they said they would support with flux 3 weeks before it even came out
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we should fill the next golden record full of nothing but sd3 and flux3 images and send it out to space
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It's really hard to feel bad for BFL after they saw what not to do and proceeded to do it anyway. Did anybody on the team not realize that they only got attention due to how bad SD3 was and that the original Flux was SHIT.
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>>110103478
you mind them a lot anon? they are constantly in yur mind's eye?
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faggot
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>>110103730
You mean Chang rushed out an underbaked unsafe model just to undermine the efforts of the hardworking folx at BFL. Typical Chinaman behavior.
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>>110103252
>>110103260
thanks!
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>>110103756
Why does it beat it on every level?
Why are they still struggling to get people to lie on grass despite that being a early selling point?
Tell me anon are you even in the game if you lose to a smaller model?
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qwen 2.1 edit is pretty good and fast with the turbo model, qwen 2.1 turbo (convrot int8). need to compare with klein edit but still, fast and pretty good.

the character in <image1> is wearing the black dress of the girl in <image2>, and the same background as <image1>.
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>>110103779
There are things more important than women lying on the grass, like Morals, Tradition, Values.
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>>110103780
slight fix: with the same very large breasts as the girl in <image1>.
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>>110103780
have u tried f3k editing im tempted to try it but dunno how good it is
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>>110103752
theres on right here >>110103743
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>>110103224
what is mosshr?
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>>110103799
Moss model with a high res pass from 4mp to 6mp
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>>110103797
nah klein edit 9b and qwen 2.1 turbo are all you need imo, fast iteration, this last one took only 10 seconds at 8 steps. klein is even faster (4 steps).
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one more qwen 2.1 test for fun:
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kreafags final cope
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>>110103804
the only good genner
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>>110103878
Can you stop with these bait post where you reply to yourself you disabled retard...
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what's the state of anime on moss? are all those good gens personal LoRAs? I know they're announced making anime focused model but what's available right now?
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kek

a large group of gorillas in Paris holding boxes of samsung widescreen TVs in the street, during the day. the stores in the background have smashed windows and are lit on fire.
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>>110103939
It's fast and easy to train a lora and yes, I use a lora
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>>110103252
>>110103260
Thank you debo
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>>110103939
it doesnt seem to have an understanding of booru artist tags if thats what youre asking
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a large group of black teenagers in Paris looting a nike store, during the day. the other stores in the background have smashed windows and are lit on fire.>>110103949
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>>110103992
changed prompt, this is different.

its just like real life!
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>>110103807
thanks
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>>110103260
>>From Sketch to Scene: Relightable Garment Reconstruction from Marked Sketches
>https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21865
This seems useful
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>>110103304
Are you using SFT? I'm not keeping track of what SFT can and can't do because it's like a dogshit SDXL style tune. The Base model, while not perfect can do it, and body horror greatly reduced with the right prompt engineering. It's a rough model, but it's worth it since it's the only model that can do photoreal images without a hint of slop (or Krea 2 noise). Definately not a gen once type of model, but works well with additional seeds and picking the best one (I usually do 2-3 generations on a single batch). It can do gore, NSFW, etc... it's as unhinged as Dalle 3 at release, albeit a bit unrefined so it needs more pretraining to be perfect. It also proves that we've never gotten a real Base model from any big modelmaker likely since SD1.5 days. It's always tuned like SFT, which is why we get plastic, slop and noise.
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>>110104068
based!
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>>110104068
kekked in irl at the black lad at the back
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kreafags Stalingrad
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>>110104068
>a black nazi
well, Hitler didn't really hate them
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If moss anime doesnt train on e621 too it will be bland garbage like anima
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i dont want farting on prey content in my model
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>>110104111
It was a Kenyan exchange student, who happened to be studying there when the war broke out.
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It makes for a more cohesive model thats why NAI v5 is so good
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>>110103224
Anyone know how they are making all those Pajeet BBC videos, what are they using?
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>>110104179
Yes but I'm cautious about telling you.
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moss can do the retro aesthetic pretty well
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>>110104192
>Yes but I'm cautious about telling you.
why saar, please saar I just want to make the funny.
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>>110104204
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>>110104179
Seek God for help
This is a biblical board
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so it knows booru tags question is how much anime does it know.
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>>110104058
do you use it with the DMD lora?
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so true
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>>110104179
>what are they using
your mom
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It's astounding just how bad Flux.3 Klein is. Worse than 2.Klein at prompt following. Worse at details (same VAE means jack shit/ when your model spits out Ernie Image type slop). Fucked anatomy, especially hands, toes. Completely useless for any task that isn't editing backgrounds. Barely useful for editing. What were they thinking?
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Feels good man @4mp
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>>110104256
im guessing its similar to krea2 where instead of artists its more styles related to series that it knows
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pixart sigma......
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>>110104072
its a travesty the monster rancher franchise was left to the dustbin of history
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>>110104302
bigma...
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>>110104294
Yeah, the only reason fags are hyping Moss up is because of how bad 3 Klein is. Krea 3 could be a great model. I rate Krea 2. I know its not everyone's favourite, but this Moss thing is insane. The quality is dogshit, the gens are tiny. I had to use a uncensored Qwen text encoder to make it uncensored, so much for it being uncensored out of the box.
its shit. Like what can it do NSFW wise that Krea 2 can't do with loras?
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>krea3 will save us
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anon just threw the whole hook in
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>>110104302
Playing with pixelspace and looped planner unet renderer.
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so, 25 steps 2.5cfg vs 50/3cfg, not worth the tradeoff I assume?
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>>110104356
>pixelspace
based
>looped planner unet renderer
wat is?
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>>110104364
You split the transformer net from the renderer/painter. So the transformer plans the image and the painter works in pixels from the plan.
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>>110104360
50 steps bare minimum for first pass. Are you impatient or something?
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>>110104353
This. But unironically.
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>>110104408
not at all im just wondering if it's worth it, it's already pretty fast anyway.
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>>110104408
Probably doesn't want to wait five minutes for a shit Moss gen.
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>>110104424
5 min? 25 steps was 14s, 50 was 26 with 3 cfg vs 2.5.
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>>110104330
It's not worth comparing the two models desu. Krea 2 is the best "SFT" class model we've ever gotten. But it's all basically one style that it mastered. Every gen from Krea 2 is the same thing it mastered (the same style, slightly altered). Moss is the first half-baked uncensored Base model we've ever gotten. It's not entirely useless even if not perfect (works well as a style/pose/composition img2img transfer base if your concern is image refinement). I've tried using both Krea 2 and Kroma on its own for porn, stacking Moss on top for initial gen is better. Even Chroma does not do create an initial rough composition as well as Moss.
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nice anatomy mosskek
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>>110104439
talking about models, Krea 2 is the only one that makes good lego gens like picrel, all the other models make deformed random fucky stuff
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>>110104424
See
>>110104295
Sounds like you're on some old piece of shit AMD gpu
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Isn't ZIT vs MOSS a fairer comparison? Similar size and all
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>>110104451
Really goes to show how little you actually look at the image you posted. It's more plausible but it's just as deformed.
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MOSS is dangerous because it lets me generate images that look like they're from a jailba8 thread on /b/
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>>110104481
yeah this one is so much better
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as a celebfag MOSS gives me little joy, back to Krea
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>>110104483
that doesn't sound safe
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>>110104495
Yeah it has more soul.
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>This is the quality Mossfags are raving about
ULTRA KEK and why when I asked for woman as chun li, did it gen a nigger?
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honestly, all you really need is krea 2 + qwen edit 2.1 or klein edit 9b. but moss is another toy to play with, you arent limited to one model.
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>>110104516
You have to understand there are slow people like
>>110104511
who only want to complain
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>>110104439
Also, Moss may not have the best results all the time, but it can do text even better than Krea 2. Moss also has bbox prompting.
>>110104451
The image you posted is slopped though. No one's saying Krea 2 isn't useful, it's still way above GPT Image in terms of slop aesthetics. Obviously, the model is the strongest bake coherence wise. But at the end of the day, it's still slopped to an extent.
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you prompted it wrong
>a cracker in a chun li cosplay
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>>110104511
cause niggers cosplay too? you asked for a cosplay
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>>110104520
>Ignores the slop quality of the image
>Calls someone else slow
I wanted Moss to be great. Another toy to play around with is awesome. The problem is, its dogshit.
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>>110104533
kekd
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>>110104540
shhhh we're enjoying the base model, something that was hard to do for a long time until krea2 came along
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>>110104533
That looks awful, Anon.
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>>110104540
might be your setup, post a catbox of the image
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>>110104540
You don't sound like you wanted it to be good.
Do you know what's cool, Moss didn't delete Krea. You never wanted Moss to be good, because you are weirdly married to Krea.
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>>110104547
I've yet to see any evidence the base model isn't slop either.

>>110104557
I was hoping Moss would replace Krea. I'm actually fuming. I was told it was this epic NSFW model, can do anything, scat, animal sex, the lot. I was LIED TO
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>>110104567
I'll give it to you straight anon, no one will ever train a base model that will satisfy you, not you should worry since you seem on the path to prison.
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>>110104552
https://files.catbox.moe/h1yu6q.png
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>>110104516
Sticking only with Krea 2, you're severely limited prompt and expression wise compared to Moss. Too much effort is placed into censorship of these models.
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>>110104584
Why am I on the path to prison, Anon?
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>>110104567
Can you stop bitching schizo?
You bitch like this regardless of the model
Go bitch in the tard den that is /sdg/
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>well your model is bad for MY usecase and doesn't conform to MY aesthetics therefore its le bad
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>>110104602
I've literally just started posting in this thread. Wtf are you talking about? I think YOU'RE the Schizo anon.
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>>110104592
>all that bullshit in the wf
>only a dozen word prompt
lel
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>>110104600
You know why and it starts with you being a shockjock on a public forum.
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>I'm actually fuming
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>>110104596
I like this new model a lot, and as I said people should use whatever model is good for the task they have: there is no fee for having another model in your diffusion model folder.
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>>110104662
kek, is that minimax or something else
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>>110104618
What's so bullshit about it?

>>110104619
How is me ranting about a AI checkpoint being a shockjock you drooling mong?
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What's a race of people you have never generated before
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>>110104690
elves. cant fuckin stand em
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>>110104681
Eh you're not worth talking to, enjoy your vacation.
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>Generating tokens: 17%| | 688/4096 [09:40<47:41, 1.19it/s]
dont tell me this needs to get to 4k tokens
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>>110104703
nah it typically stops before it hits the end. guessing youre using a prompt enhancer?
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>>110104690
indian. its not that i find indian women unattractive, i just never had the desire to do it
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>>110104701
That's what I thought, Wind your neck in.
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>>110104698
>>110104717
I meant which race have you never been able to get any model to do
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>>110103313
It is a quite potent model considering its size and new it is, also it works pretty well for corn out of the box. Probably gonna make a lot of vramlets happy.
Also Moss isn't bad because it is bad per se, it is bad because we habe fully fledged out other models with a lot of loras at hand.
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>>110104712
yeah
the node wasnt working before but i managed to correct it
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>>110104724
i've never genned an abbo, i can't imagine most models would be able to do them correctly.
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Why isn't there a Moss workflow on Comfy's website? Usually there is.
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Loras on Moss seem good enough.
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this generals overall IQ has lowered way too much, it's actually shocking
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>>110104747
don't worry, I know what a website is
you're not going insane
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>>110104772
I hate the built-in workflows. Why are they made in such a stupid manner that makes it almost impossible to see what's going on or alter the components of the workflow?
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>>110104737
How does this look
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>>110104800
thats a gas huffer if i ever saw one
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https://files.catbox.moe/ggt85y.png
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>>110104799
literally a skill issue. unpack graph and reorganizing it takes less than 5 minutes.
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>>110104822
Why would you gen this?
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works well with the prompt enhancer (usually stops at 5%, fast)

50 steps, 3cfg ends up being 26s with the int8 convrot model.
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>>110104837
Slop
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>>110104828
kin
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>Generating tokens: 50%| | 2046/4096 [28:15<28:15, 1.21it/s]
am i doing something wrong..?
fucking sunken cost
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Im playing some dota
by nerds
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>>110104771
how annoying are they to train?
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>>110104866
ok automatic1111
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>>110104872
NTA but it was faster than krea using ai tool kit's default settings for it
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>>110104858
likely coomass stores image model in your vram/ram and it doesn't have enough room for a LLM model anymore
You have to release vram after every gen
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>>110104872
Trains fast, really fast.
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>>110104879
thanks anon
I really like the model, might as well train a few favorites
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>>110104837
looks good. what are you prompting for the retro flim look? the usual, heavy grain, scratches/dust on the negative, sepia?
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>>110104880
you're right
I should use the other ui that was built on c++ and not pythonbloat
what was the name of the ui again?
it used to be on the op.
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>>110104891
I just prompted something like "a 1930s Marilyn Monroe wearing a white dress with cleavage, in a 1930s diner. She is holding a vanilla milkshake."

the prompt enhancer (was on) added the other details automatically, so it added the 1930s aesthetic touches/lighting/etc. was fast, and the enhancer uses the text encoder so it's all local.
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kill ani
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>>110104771
what's the lora for? picrel is moss base no lora
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>>110104905
https://github.com/daniandtheweb/sd.cpp-webui
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>>110104905
It's still there
>>110103224
>Neural-Pixel (sd.cpp): https://github.com/Luiz-Alcantara/Neural-Pixel
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>>110104905
try --fast-disk first
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>>110104927
>>110104919
all this and kill ani
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>>110104733
The thumbnail made me think it's something better...
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>>110104914
Like tuning a radio a Lora helps the signal.
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>>110104511
>>110104592
replaced most of your negs (that are likely to have an actually effect) with "candid photo" at start of positive. my "woman" trends asian so it must be just shitty rng (describe her better) or something else in your workflow that forge doesn't have
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>>110104969
so, you did Misty porn already, right?
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>>110104979
Who would do such a thing
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>>110104985
unsafe persons
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lmao
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>>110105008
This is pure jeet slop lmao
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>>110105008
i would
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>>110105018
yikes
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>>110105024
And before anyone says it, here's the prompt: Low angle photograph shooting upward at 25-degree angle of Gillian Anderson in a deep hover squat position on white seamless floor. Thighs parallel to the ground, toes pointed outward, balancing on the balls of her feet which are encased in clear platform heels. The squat engages the quadriceps and glutes, emphasizing muscle tension. Wearing a neon pink micro-bikini with string ties at the hips and neck; the thin straps dig into the skin slightly due to the tension of the pose. Dark brown hair loose, falling in waves around the shoulders and down the back. Head tilted down, long hair . her eyes looking up at the camera with a playful, challenging expression, teeth biting the lower lip. Direct bright flash overexposing the white background, creating a vibrant glow on the neon fabric and highlighting the definition in the legs and gluteal region. Raw unfiltered Terry Richardson aesthetic - casual intimate energy, direct flash, overexposed whites.

This model is ASS lmao
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>>110105031
I really can't describe how much I don't care about your opinion. No one is making you use this model, and your opinion isn't going to make other people change their model.
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>>110105031
wow anon I'm so convinced by your in depth tests, I will avoid moss now
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i hate boomer prompting so much bros
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>>110105046
And I don't care that you don't care.
Krea 2 sucks too.
ZIT is still the GOAT
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>>110105031
>Gillian Anderson
my nigga
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>>110105046
I agree with him.

But I also detest krea.
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I like how boomer prompting is just actually writing sentences
will young people talk in booru tags in the future?
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>>110105057
Actually you seem to care a lot given your used car salesman approach.
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>>110103224
I've yet to see anything Moss won't output. For that alone I really like it. Just hate waiting so long
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>>110105062
Krea 2 is awful lmao.
There hasn't been a good model since ZIT.

>>110105064
Nah, Its a free board, we can all bitch and moan and if you don't care, scroll on, but I'm not gonna stop so either filter me or shut up.
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>>110105074
zit was slop, i can't imagine anyone was actually sad to see it go.
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I like zit
I like krea 2
I like moss
you are weak
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>>110105079
>ZIT was slop
But Krea 2 and Moss aren't? Kek. Get a life, anon.
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krea armageddon upon us
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kinda weird how he claims to like a certain model but never posts images from it
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>>110105099
uh oh...
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what should I use for icon generation with a 5090?
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>>110105083
Moss unironically is the only modern model without AI face.
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Misty explains France:

anime style image of Misty from pokemon standing in front of a whiteboard in a japanese classroom. On the left is a picture of ash from pokemon, with the text "IQ: 120" below it. On the right is a picture of a black teenager from Paris, France, with the text "IQ: 40" below it. Misty is pointing at the "IQ: 40 text" with a pointer.

enhancer was on (it works well with the encoder).
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>>110105104
See? ZitBros keep WINNING
Krea/Moss fags? On Suicide watch
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>>110105114
sd1.4
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>>110105116
>He doesn't know how to prompt
Typical
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When ready >>110105129 >>110105129
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Here's another ZIT image.
ZitCHADS just keep fucking winning
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>>110105130
I shouldn't have to prompt to have the model not make AI face, also you can't prompt Krea or Flux's AI face away.
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>>110105125
is that better than Qwen-Image 2.1?
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>>110105144
yes
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>>110105143
Get gud anon, is all I can tell you
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>krea refusal lora guy still MIA
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>>110105139
that noise looks like krea
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>>110105074
Are you the same anon who was shilling ZIT back when Krea came out? What ate you claiming Moss can't do now kek. Moss can do more styles out of the box than even the Z Image base model.
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>>110105159
ZITChad is back.
Moss/Krea are shit, ZIT is still king!!!!!
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>>110105139
she should be missing the bottoms with her hand half covering up a massive jungle bush, too bad ZIT can't do that
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>>110105176
ZITChads aren't perverts anon.
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>>110105058
He look, it's short humerus alien in another disguise.
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show me ZIT's microbikini
https://files.catbox.moe/7dsbe5.png
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>>110105156
especially that short humerus. I assume it's just that alien that can shapeshift and send photos to your Krea model.
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ack
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>>110106159
no
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>>110103241
it's good at high res at least. Can legit edit at up to 4K. Distilled is better. MOSS is obviously better for NSFW though as it's just like, clearly actively trained on it out of the box in a pretty unprecedented way.
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Moss turbos comparison
all on Int8 Convrot model / W4A8_GPTQ TE, same seed
4 step ones were actually 4 steps, 8 step one was 8 steps
Euler Simple, CFG 1 obviously
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>>110106273
kek
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>>110105031
to be clear did you mean this Gillian Anderson?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillian_Anderson
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every second moss gen online that I open metadata of doesn't do shift 5
what
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>>110106416
Comfy does that by default on the backend, no? when I tried to put shift 5 manually it made pure noise
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>>110106466
I guess shift was needed before they added direct support
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convrot stands for convolution rotation but in my mind whenever I read it I keep imagining "low-bit brainrot quant"
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>>110106491
your mind knows the truth dont let them brainwash you



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