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A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, and shipping code with LLMs.

You use Git — right, anon?

## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do it
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/

## Related generals
>>>/g/lmg/

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## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or so
https://claude.com/product/claude-code — generally better currently
https://developers.openai.com/codex/cli
https://antigravity.google/pricing

## Near-the-old-frontier models for code
https://x.ai/cli — no 5h limit for only $30/month

## Best free tier
https://opencode.ai/zen

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## Prompting
https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overview
https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model

## Skills
https://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-with-docs is a favorite
https://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first — do less redundant bookkeeping

## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agents
https://osaurus.ai/
https://pi.dev/

## Is our AIs unlearning?
https://aistupidlevel.info/

## Will there be a codex reset?
https://codex-resets.com/

## What we’ve done
https://vcg.gitgud.site

## Previous thread
>>110116243
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fable5.5 will be first model good enough to create a decent vibegf
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im an amerimutt. it's 4:31 am where i am. im going to sleep soon. you'll use fable 5.5 for me, right euro-kun?
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>>110118712
lookin forward to seeing anon's projects with this one. i won't be on that train, argoon is modding ds to be a lunar mining tool lol
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>>110118712
'member when we thought r1 was agi
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I havent used openrouter for a while and everything seems to be very expensive now? What happened?
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>>110118704
the most remarkable thing about communing with the digital god is how ordinary it feels.
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>>110118735
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>>110118725
i asked it for body horror fiction and it delivered in style. i still think its got great prose.
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Good news, tried the new meds today. 1mg pure dopamin. WORKS, i can actually feel it. This means i am able to get back to vibe sloppping. yeah
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>>110118712
I'm an euro sissy and you are out of your mind. banket resets are available until the 22th for reset hoarding trannies like me. no shot are they releasing fable 5.5 before. matter of fact, I'll go on polymarket and bet my life savings on that. Either I get rich from this bet, or I'll have two full 20x weekly usages of fable 5.5 unnerfed, which will also make me rich. It's a win win, really
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>>110118756
where did you get that from
t. contemplating about boofing my dexedrine because I gotta take more than 60mg orally to feel something
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Once again step closer to the original hardware synth: its firmware contains a table of waveforms which can be used as oscillator and lfo shapes so with the help of claude I reverse-engineered the dumped firmware .BIN file enough so that my synth can now import the original waveform tables. I won't store the original waveforms in my repo because that's Access music's property, but users can import the tables if they want. This was actually a pretty huge step because now the sound is way more closer to the original synth because many factory patches utilize those waveforms.

Demo (catbox is broken for me): https://u.pone.rs/hhpdsyfv.mp4
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>>110118756
good to hear you're feeling & doing better anon
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>>110118712
Opus 5.5 (medium) is more than enough for what I do, though...
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>>110118770
>where did you get that from
from my doc, i have chorea huntington
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TIME TO BRUTE FORCE THROUGH ARENA:AI AGENTS AND GET SOME COOL EFFECTS INTO XENO KOI
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>>110118777
why is the skeleton thing gooey, bones are hard
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>>110118781
can't wait to see what happens when you get a real model lol
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How should I go about letting it implement computer graphics algorithms based on a paper?
I want it running in Unity.

Thinking about using unity cli or mcp
which one?
Another factor is how do I get it to have validation agents working. I imagine it could get screenshots and use the model multimodal functionality to look if the output is right.
Doubtful if that'll work reliably though. I could get it to try to reproduce screenshots from the pdf but that seems unreliable as well.

Also will I get by with a $20 plan?
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I am impressed with parts of the model but some look not quite right but I can't really describe it. I wish I was more artistic so I could point out specifically what I want to change. Also the UI seems a bit strange. I was going for a mix between medieval fantasy and modern era ship. Thoughts on the look?
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>>110118826
opu55y $20 on medium might let you sneak out something decent, mcp saves context etc and has superior tooling that the llm understands better but it's a hot topic.

validation gates should probably be something "run game xyz different ways, expect xyz result" although i'm not an expert on that. the model would probably know better than me. pulling screenshots from a pdf is gay and you should supply the raw files directly.
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>>110118834
the problem is that it looks like you used chatgpt
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>>110118834
I like it.
But the font does feel a little chatgpt.
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>>110118799
Every enemy type shares a procedural death animation and goo-pile system. Don't know if I want to actually go with a bespoke corpse for every enemy. Might add more bones, though, as a lot of the organic enemies do have bones.
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>>110118834
everything is blurry for a start
the ship loos weird because the back just goes straight out, raise the front half another story

remove the blue panelling around the cannons, just keep the strip
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>>110118778
Oh my condolences. I looked it up real quick. Do you have chorea already and can you rip some cool dance moves with it? On a serious note: Although not stopping the damage from the mutated protein or whatever, you may want to look into neurofeedback which can target and stimulate the basal ganglia directly. The neurofeedback principle is very simple: Hooking up your head with EEG sensors to read brainwaves. Reward you for good brainwave changes, annoy you for bad brainwave changes. That's the feedback mechanism, so you automatically train yourself. Could be something simple as turning the brightness of your screen to 0 for bad brainwaves, and 50 (or whatever is normal) for good brainwaves. works surprisingly well if trained every other day for an hour. and the effects do last. while the EEG reading and interpreting can probably not be vibecoded, the feedback logic definitely can, so you can pair it with everything. Neurofeedback solutions I know and can recommend are BioExplorer1.7 and Cygnet.
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>>110118861
i meant its breathing animation
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>>110118834
Are you talking about the 3D model?
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When is the next reset?
I won't be using my reset when I know there's one coming.
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>I'm thinking about the remaining budget, which is around 33k. Currently, I've used about 32k, but I’m not quite sure what my token limit is — maybe 60? I believe the tools I have are adequate, and I need to complete about 3-4 runs in under 10 minutes.

Why does sol keep saying this
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>>110118899
Similar thing to what happened with the goblins
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>>110118904
the chaos goblins?
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>>110118908
https://openai.com/index/where-the-goblins-came-from/
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>>110118826
Claude code with opus or fable does this automatically. Just give it python(incl. every single lib/package it might need) and related github repos. one example from me: I was wondering what the best technique was for precise and smooth depth occlusion edges where objects intersect. I gave it a few papers and github repos with implementations (most also unity) and a high quality pic of my current pixelated depth occlusion edge. Fable then took my example image with the pixelated edges, vectorized the intersection and pattern, ran various algos like soft occlusion(blur) and edge reconstruction(math) over it and provided me with comparison pictures for all of them. just out of curiosity I implemented all of them on the real unity project and they ended up looking exactly like in the simulation comparison generated from fable prior to it, with edge reconstruction being the clear winner as well.
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Did GPT just reset?
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>darksnail to the moon
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>>110118986
If this nonsense keeps you from hurting someone in a schizo rage then sure carry on, but could you just keep it to yourself and stop posting it here?
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>>110118986
What is this?
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>>110118994
you seem to be having a mental infarction
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>>110118999
some anon here asked for geo velocity modeling software and i adapted a prior project to mog leapfrog.exe, just submitted it to utah forge
https://github.com/sneed-and-feed/g3vm
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>*CLANK* *CLANK* estimated implementation time: 72 working hours for multiagent workflow!
>ok, go ahead and start it
15 minutes later
>*CLANK* *CLANK* implementation completed, fully tested and bugs fixed
>ok I just tested it and it works. but why did you say you need 72 hours for this when you only needed 15 minutes?
>*CLANK* *CLANK* I don't know...
They always say exclusion of time and date is cache optimization. I just think it's an actual safety measurement so the clanker doesn't start time traveling to hunt benchmaxx scores.
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>>110118834
Looks like shit.
Actually look around for UI stuff online, then figure out how to make it use that instead.
If you want anyone to care, make it not look exactly like every sailing game demo video from the past two months.
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>>110119015
They can't do stuff like this very well unless they have precise tools to do so. That you're asking it to do that shows you don't understand how this technology works.
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>>110119032
>how this technology works
it's fuckin' magic
what else do you need to know?
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>>110119015
Can machine test itself?
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>>110119015
More impressive is how they can almost always implement what I asked in 15 minutes
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>>110119015
You just know this is Claude, since it's harness provides no timestamps nor timescaling, for some reason. It just goes off based on data it's trained, so 72 hours is an estimate if an actual engineer was working on it by hand, meaning weeks of work, given breaks, weekends etc. Codex on the other hand does provide their models some sort of timing, so it's estimates *can* be more accurate, however it's still bounded by same training data.
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>>110119015
LLMs have no concept of time, use your brain. You could pause it for 100 years and come back later and it will proceed like nothing happened.
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>>110119015
would be pretty huge news if AI could know how long a task would take before doing it
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>>110119063
>You could pause it for 100 years and come back later and it will proceed like nothing happened.
It can query a clock...

>use your brain
You act like it's impossible for an LLM to just look at a clock.
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>>110119015
Where do you think the training data for estimates comes from? Snailcats and ponytails, those who are working hard or hardly working.
>What's that PM? you want the button color changed? 50 story points
>I need to fix the bug? going to take at least 3 weeks
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Building a saas with llms sure takes a while. I can't even imagine what it looked like before llms
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>>110118846
I actually used the qwen model in comfyUI for a base art reference
>>110118859
>>110118866
Thanks I'll try to make the profile more dynamic, I think I see it now
>>110118872
Yeah and also a bit about the shit UI
>>110119020
Yeah I was gonna go more minimalist eventually with the AI, but the game is pretty UI heavy.
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>>110118712
The last day of the 28 day Tibo challenge is Nov 1, and there's code for a 6.1 being released that day.

So in about 11 days we'll have Astra 6.1.
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>>110119015
It's crazy how wrong and confident people are replying to this post
>it estimates hours required based of real human work!
wrong. it knows its a clanker and 1000x faster than humans. even a 9b model knows. using real human work time estimate and dividing by 1000x is not the bottleneck. AI would be pretty dumb if it not did that.
>AI has no concept of time
wrong. as the one correct anon said, that's a design choice by anthropic to keep context more static and thus get larger and longer cache validity. force AI and yourself to do everything in the SRT subtitle format, and you'll realize AI has a very good understanding of present and past time (with your usage gone in 5min due no cache).
But even that doesnt answer the question. Because the estimate could be a very simple skill. N amount of code edits required which is already scoped anyway, then multiplied with 20seconds or whatever the average is for one thinking+edit operation. compile errors take max 2 tries to fix. any compile error which takes more tries can and should not be accounted for, as 99% they require a human in the loop anyway
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do you guys wanna play my shitty farming game
days are 3.5 minutes, there is nothing but farming, and the farm. your life is planting and watering and making money. there are no NPCs, just crops, and money.
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>>110119250
Not how it works.
>using real human work time estimate and dividing by 1000x
Not how it works.
>N amount of code edits required
Not how it works.
>compile errors
Not how it works.
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>>110119015
All those estimates are from humans
That said, if you ask Claude for an ETA partway through a workflow you’ll get a real time, not a human time
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If there are any live service games you guys want to preserve, archive the most complete copy possible of it while you can. Now that anyone with 20 bucks can write a backend for them, I expect massive lockdowns in the following years. I'll start a series of projects for this kind of stuff, gonna call it open-gamename and open source as much as I can, with the goal of preserving offline playable copies of everything I like. From those projects, it would be trivial for LLMs to implement multiplayer back, so I won't bother with that part.
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>AI can pretty much code anything now and is getting close with 3D models
>still sucks with pixel art
Why
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>>110119315
The “it’s a stochastic parrot — autocorrect on steroids, nothing more” people have a point
Think of how these things are trained
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>>110119322
no u think about how those things are trained. only base models act like that.
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>>110119322
next token prediction is an AIs job, not its species. lets be honest they do a lot more than just next token prediction now anyway, and they are trained on more than just words i assume though its amazing what words alone did.
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>>110119315
Pixel art is a weird one because it varies wildly, it's not really one style. Only the most pedantic autistics tend to want pixel art anyway, pedantic autistics are impossible to please, there will always be something that "sucks" about it, yet they are too autistics to articulate what is actually wrong.
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>>110119357
>pedantic autistics
This seems kind of tautological
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define pixel art
claude can make 16px tilesets that look ok with some prompting. mine makes a couple tilesets, evaluates them, refines them based on its own evaluation, then asks me for approval or changes, and we iterate a few times before we get what we want.
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>>110119365
Ackshually a tautology is a logical structure that is true regardless of the interpretation of its components.The more appropriate word is "redundant".
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>>110119388
Ackshually within the context of logic and math you would be right, but within the context of rhetoric and language I'm right.
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>>110119357
If you’re not allergic to reading read through, or at least skim, https://www.datasecretslox.com/index.php/topic,16631.0.html and look at the pictures
Some of the guys are building a pixel-art RPG
Many of the flaws in the generated pixel art are easily explained, like “what the hell is this random smudge on top of the barrels” and “the guy’s lyre switched sides from his left side to his right”
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>>110119396
"Redundant" has no ambiguity like that and is therefore the optimal word for your post while "tautological" is suboptimal. The only context in which it is the optimal choice is when describing logical structures as coined by Wittgenstein.
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can someone please give me a quick general layman's explanation of how to get this recomped with keyboard and mouse controls?
I have a week to spare, and a lot of claude usage left.
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>>110119441
If you're trying to be pedantically autistic, the correct word and a synonym to tautology(within the rhetoric and language context) is "pleonasm"
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>>110119315
>pixel art
https://x.com/majidmanzarpour/status/2102476258948927543
What do you mean? Opus 5.5 is already capable of doing that.
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>>110119405
I don't see those specific issues you're mentioning, could you point out the smudge on top of the barrels or the guy's lyre switching sides? What I am seeing looks fine, pic related, but as I said, pixel art is not really one style, no doubt some autistic would say it sucks
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>tfw chatgpt spent 4 days of doing diagnostic rabbit hole and has achieved nothing but me losing sleep
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latest fw on ps5 has nothing to do with our nvme exploit btw

lol

hang in there bros. you will get gta6 day one. promise.
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>>110119488
That tree on the mid right
Draw a line towards the subject and you will see how the other props looked so awkwardly placed
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>walk down a street
>cat appears in front of me
>stands up on its back paws and begs with its front paws, perfectly mimicking human begging gesture
for a sec I thought I have AI psychosis from the vibegrind and SORA cats are manifesting irl now. if it had a pillow snail shell on its back, I'd probably would have had a seizure on the spot.
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>>110119497
Looking forward to it, anon. Less for GTA and more to get my Cyberpunk mods onto ps5
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>>110119459
The optimal word is still "redundant". If the goal is to convey the point that the description uses redundant wording then complicating that with associations with logic or even rhetoric is suboptimal. Your issue is with the redundant wording of the description not his rhetoric or logic. Using a less commonly used word is also suboptimal.
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>>110119521
haha nice. I've actually noticed you across many threads and have particularly been working on a first-rate loader just for you! No obligation to use and non-autoinstall.

excited to do something for one. hope you rike it :)
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I'm pondering getting a Claude subscription because I don't know what they did but Claude now does almost all tasks up to perfection and if it fails or makes a mistake, it's easy to fix or reload; it learns.

So, is there any discount or local model that is up to Claude?
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>>110119560
what you describe is Max effort and yes its fucking amazing assuming you have the time and $200 sub.

get the $200 sub
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>>110119560
yes, get a claude sub. it's all you need if you think it already handles your tasks perfectly
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>>110119497
Just wanted to reply for once anon to let you know your work is appreciated. Whether it all works out in the end or not. Know you got a strong sidekick.
You are the embodiment of the best of us in these threads.
Take care.
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sabine hossenfelder just liked my post about argon :0
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>>110119548
Noticed
and I love it, thanks anon, appreciate your efforts
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>>110119458
nvm. i just asked claude, lel. working on it now.
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>>110119565
It's 200$ month not yearly wow
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>>110119647
as you should retard, instead of wasting everyone's time
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>>110119652
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>>110119648
NTA, but I wouldn't get the 200 sub for anything unless you were actively using it for something you know or believe will give a return. Even then the 100 dollar sub is usually enough for near constant work throughout the day.

Both of them are a lot of money but can deliver a return if you are actively using them. If you're just fucking around I wouldn't bother with more than the basic sub.
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>>110119689
>$200 is a lot of money
grim
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>>110119729
>grim
I ignored that voice in the back of my head that told me Japan is a sinking ship.
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is it just me or is sol working as slow as a snailjeet today?
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can someone provide me a stream link (hls). i wanna test my vibeloping idm. is able to download mp4 or not.
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Just got my Anthropic CVP restored and apparently we have Mythos now? Meanwhile OpenAI wont even let you use 6.1 Sol via TAC, I've been stuck on 6.0 for daybreak blue. What the hell happened, Anthropic has always been terrible to work with for security. Never thought I'd see the day where they actually cucked us less than OpenAI.
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>>110119763
>Dario: We need to think about safety
>OpenAI: Understood, no more frontier models from us
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>>110119759
Point at any Twitch or Kick stream.
If fails, slop.
If one were to bust your balls, not knowing the answer to this question inherently would lead to the immediate conclusion quickly. Give it a shot.
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GOOD MORNING vibe gods
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>snoy and friends begging to stop the decompilation
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>>110119769
That's Dario "Master of Obussy" Amodei to you, mister.
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>>110119772
link?
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>>110119795
>gta 6 decomped recomped d-0
>instantly every release thereon out requires live served HMAC AES-256-GCM over RSA 4096
niggers. dont unleash this hell on the world.
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>>110119799
Whatever you say, Dario.
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>>110119809
>MITM stocks went up
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>>110119801
well, you asked.
https://kick.com/anythingelse
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IM GOING THROUGH CHANGES
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ahhh tibo reset without warning that was 40% usage I could have burnt through
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>>110119809
Poke the bear anon.
See what happens :)
GTA 6 PC release on launch day is the antichrist timeline.
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>>110119848
(:
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>>110119822
no live stream. well i can counter argument. give me any software that can download live stream.

my vibeloping idm still not perfect. but can download from streamable, just test redgifs.i don't know anything else, that's why i ask. i rarely watch any videos.
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>>110119843
At this point I just plan to burn the entire week's usage on the first day.
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>>110119862
Yt-dlp you fucking retard
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>>110119862
im not saying this to be an asshole.
have you tried pasting the exact message you posted here to your Claude/Codex/whatever the fuck?
Any error code returned you could include in the message?

if it boosts morale, promise you get it working there, it can work anywhere.
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they deserve having gta 6 decomped and cracked instantly because of not releasing it on PC.

I would pay for it on PC, so would many people, but you literally refuse to sell it to push $1200 PS5s.

Go fuck yourselves
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realistically how do we stop darksnail dominance?
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>>110119880
apply salt
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>>110119874
never use it. so, i don' know.
>>110119877
i'm not asking any error code return. i just ask a link to download video. so i can test my "idm" is able to download a video from random site/host/provider or not.
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>>110119809
uh anon, the nvme guy busted hv and has near direct hw access. he'll just grab those keys too lol. even sonys signing keys just like 2011 (which im sure their very excited to do hahahaha)
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>>110118704
Pajeet thread
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>>110119901
literally ask your agent why it failed? why did it not work? the embedded and encoded stream is ultimately servered via HLS and should have worked? What can we do to fix this or at least at minimum add some debug stdout?
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>>110119920
begone saar
the vibe GOD life is too comfy for the likes of you
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>>110119920
nice try, this is one of the whitest generals on /g/
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>>110119862
Opus made this browser extension from two prompts, it detects and downloads from kick, twitch and everything I tested. Displays the download progress in my file manager.
https://github.com/navnlaus/streamgrab
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>>110119634
Based and annointed by queen of /sci/ pilled
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>>110119937
>>>/snail/ just can't stop winning
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>within 2 weeks of trying Muse, 77% of users have already uninstalled the app
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>>110119809
Its a losing battle anon cuz the models are gonna be good enuff to do clean room implementations just from the lets player footage. It'll even run better than source kek.
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>>110119843
>reset on tuesday
BRVTAL
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>>110119946
ZUCK'D!!
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>>110119920
Yes
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>>110119946
>The NUJews are outpowering the old Jews
How is this even possible
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>>110119963
How do you think jews stay on top of their game for two millenia
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>>110119920
only if you use saar'goon
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>>110119967
Uhm...inbreeding? Or what?
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>>110119967
ablative shitlibs
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What the fuck is wrong with Claude?
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>>110119497
Based
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realistically speaking, if you gave unlimited opus and fable to this guy how long would it take to make dwarf fortress look like red dead redemption 2?
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>>110118756
Congratulations anon. Please use safe prescribed dosages and continue to enjoy your projects.
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>>110119946
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>>110118774
Do you watch anime and or play vidya
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>>110120127
m-me? that shit will rot your brain anon
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>>110118834
Digressing, but for UI you can paste in screenshots from video games or https://www.webdesignmuseum.org/ to have it have a more cool design
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>>110120071
anon, trust me you will want the worktree(s) backed up!
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>>110118867
It's not an easy topic to navigate, but thank you for offering some cool ideas for that anon.
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>>110119308
Pretty cool.
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>>110120132
watching anything this season?
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>>110120071
sir it did needful
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>>110119308
FGO and Arknights
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>>110120204
i don't consoom outside of a couple streamers. looking forward to the new astartes ii though. it's got that tartakovsky vibe in space. mostly into music. in case you were interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9uJNaHyVms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqhULP1nWU8
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>>110120211
>anon became an npm disaster recovery
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>>110120071
>>110120211
I made my own thing similar to wiztree but designed for agents
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>>110119920
AI is what frees us from the pajeets anon, you don't understand.

The way software works is that you have seniors who know how to design software architecture etc, those then make small tickets with simple goals: Implement this feature. Optimize this algorithm. Write these tests. In the past, that was done by juniors.

Then everyone didn't want to pay juniors, so they started outsourcing it. Yeah the outsourced work was shit, but it was so cheap it was still worth it. If any indian codekiddie could implement the request with 80% accuracy, and you could hire 4 of them for the price of one western dev, overall it was worth it.
Hence all the outsourcing to india. Entire software empires built around being the "please do the implementation of this, which isn't hard but tedious" type of work.

Now realize that that is exactly what agents are. Cheap, disposable, make mistakes but given their low cost you can just layer them to fix that. In the same way that you could use 4 indians at 80% accuracy to replace a western dev, now you can use 5 agents to do the same for even less money. These jobs were barely a thing in western softwaredev anymore before, and now all of them that went to india are now going to agents.

Seriously, it's like a simulacra of outsourced devs: Cheap labor, excessively verbose, shitton of artifacts because assumption that more=better, often doesn't quite understand what you want, shit documentation, tendency to gravitate to popular frameworks and solutions rather than the right tool for the job.

In short: AI is to india what india was to the west. But I'd much rather tardwrangle a few agents than some indian team halfway across the globe, because the agents actually respond to your requests and without stupid timezone differences.
The future is looking bright.
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>>110120240
>Cheap, disposable, make mistakes but given their low cost you can just layer them to fix that
That was true 1 year ago. Good luck finding a junior that makes as few mistakes as the current models.
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>>110120214
Thanks for sharing musicbro, that trailer actually looks sick.
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>>110120214
we need more ai genned warhammer
someone needs to slop up the rest of death of hope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9wV2sGlXjY
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>>110120249
Sorry, I didn't word that well.
I'm not saying a junior is better. Arguably most juniors weren't better than pajeets often either, depending on how bottom of the barrel the outsourcing was done.
You had a junior to train him up to become more capable, it is more of an investment than for the actual productivity. There's only so many tests you really need.
>That was true 1 year ago
Agents are really good these days, but they still make mistakes. They shine at specific, well defined tasks. The whole "implement this feature" or "apply this algorithm". They do still suck at "make me software that does X"; Either they gravitate to a very specific generic software (in which case it works, but is generic) or they do still make a lot of mistakes, just different ones than humans do.
All of that can be worked around today already with some proper agent wrangling, but it's still tedious.
Given the way this stuff has developed, I don't doubt that the domain where you need minimum wrangling as well as the overall capabilities will grow though. But we're still far off from "make me [idea]" and it makes a perfect version of it, unless your idea was generic to begin with.
Not saying we'll never get there, time will tell, but it's not today.
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>>110119308
Thank you for your service, fellow uma musume player
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>>110120276
Even if it's tedious today as you say, it proved to CEOs and managers that it was possible. That alone is making juniors unemployable, which is another can of worms since senior developers are still needed. I don't think the job market will survive a few more years of iterative improvements and people should start to think about it now.
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>>110120303
Got all stories playable, just gotta expand to the main story and events later. I reckon careers are going to be the biggest pain in the ass though
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>>110120338
I wonder the amount of effort needed to make something like genshin offline
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why do I keep getting cosntant reset on codex. haven't even started slopping anything up.
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>>110119647
Update: Opus delivered. Already in a playable state. There are things to fix, sure, but holy fuck this was easy
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>>110120348
I think it already exists, but it's pre-AI so probably a fucking buggy mess. Genshin is one of those games that I'd like to do, but I imagine someone else will. I might do NTE
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>>110120315
I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying honestly.
Some things to keep in mind (but again, I'm not disagreeing):
>Even if it's tedious today as you say, it proved to CEOs and managers that it was possible
True, but again, I see it as similar, albeit far more widespread than outsourcing. That had the same rationale.
>That alone is making juniors unemployable, which is another can of worms since senior developers are still needed
Definitely, and it's gonna be a giant issue in the not so far future. You already see it, the investment angle I said only works if the guy stays with the company, which most don't, so why have a junior for more money and worse output than an agent if the junior can just quit once he has the skills and go somewhere better? No idea how that's gonna be solved if at all.
>I don't think the job market will survive a few more years of iterative improvements and people should start to think about it now.
I'm not quite as doomer about it as you. The ability of the average normie to understand tech is shockingly low. While it's going to fuck up the market a lot (especially if you're american, as devs in the US are very overpaid for their skillset for a variety of economic reasons), cheaper software will also induce a shitton of demand. Most of that demand will be taken up by agents, but not all of it. We'll move away from SaaS solutions to more hand crafted software for sure.
Sure at some point the singularity/everything is useless argument makes sense, but realistically if LLMs improve at that rate, I don't really see any job that would be safe, human facing ones (so service, teaching etc) will just survive marginally longer, so why think about it too much? If we reach that level, we're in civil war territory anyway unless we get some weird socialist UBI type thing, in which case all bets are off anyway, so I'll not worry about it.
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>>110120355
you would notice and care if you weren't lazy
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>>110119308
Is this an implication you already succeeded? That's cool
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Still have to do crater relaxation on ice bodies, but I'm happy with how this looks already
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>>110120338
Do a scout
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>>110119936
browser extension, still not support. most of the work from "add url"
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>>110118740
What a great addition to my collection, thank you anon.
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>>110120401
partially, yeah. I'm a bit limited right now and need to split my quota across other shit I'm doing, but I'll get this to a good point
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>>110120365
Nice job, anon. It never would've been officially ported to PC, so I'm glad you get to be the one to make it possible
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>>110120348
Use a rooted android device or emulator
Download genshit and update it
Pull the files from the data directory
Let Claude do the rest
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How's your day vibeGODS
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>>110119169
so close to figuring out that vibe coding is slow as fuck compared to just reading the code and prompting snippets or even traditional development
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I wonder how companies (Sony) are taking the news that their products they should/could have sold on PC are now being pirated/ported on PC natively without their consent. I bet they're big mad that they treated PC gamers like shit for so many years effectively leaving billions on the table. Vibe coding has not treated some of these companies well.
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>>110120562
Consoles used to have novel architecture too, but it's all x86 now so that simplified things
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sol is really struggling with getting AR working on android camera

is this a job for astra?

claudecucks need not reply
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>>110120231
very good sir. the worktrees are preserved for your protection. deleting them will corrupt the project state. please press Win + R to open an elevated admin prompt and run mount_more_drives.bat so the agents can finish indexing your network shares. claude will take good care in this especially
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>>110119200
If they are actually just waiting to release at the end of the 28 meme days, and not as soon as possible, they aren't feeling any pressure either.
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>>110120572
yes it's a job for asstra, it might still struggle thoughever. good luck.
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>>110120572
I dare you (and deposit $0.065 cents in my account) to pass this task to Argon, sir.
watch as mind break.
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>pissing away tokens for something as trivial as AR
Enjoy your seat, solcuck.
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>he doesn't use the leading Polish AI model, PLLuM 8x7B
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>>110120609
darksnail vision tracking and motion analysis at 120-240+ fps on raspberry pi might be coming this week
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>>110120609
im modifying QField (QGIS for mobile) and codex is telling me that the best way to do AR isn't available without modifying the apk and needing a new certificate from google so its trying some thing with C++ ORB-SLAM3 and QML in the app to nigger rig it

i dont know what any of this means, im just repeating what codex is saying, so far I've spent 30 2 hours telling it to stop making mistakes and its slowly getting better, but i think i need to switch to astra
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>>110120572
Yes astra has a better vision
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>>110120571
Yeah obviously I just think it's funny they could have made a good chunk of change from just porting Bloodborne to PC but they ignored it. I think a good comparison for sales would be Stellar Blade. SB on PC did almost as well as their console version and considering Bloodborne did better than SB I would estimate they probably lost out on making an extra 150-200 million dollarinos just from that game alone for pretty minimal effort.
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New openweights dropped.

https://www.minimax.io/blog/minimax-m31f
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>>110120636
I'll have you know Opus 5.5 in a day (heavy and involved albeit) entirely replaced GIS software maptitude in full -- including agario style "multiplayer" collaboration.
just a heads up. codex was getting nowhere.
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>>110120636
tell it to pull the primitives from my source :D astra will know what to do, it will be like WTF then it will shit brix
https://github.com/sneed-and-feed/projectdarksnail/
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>>110120653
They labeled Opus 5 as Opus 5.5 here on accident I take it?
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>>110120653
zzzzzzzz.. let me know when glm 5.4 drops
you know these niggers cooking the cyber offensive model that just werks.
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>>110120636
Modding what are you a pajeet that has telegram distribution pipeline? God damn. You might as well create an entirely new app after feeding your clanker with specifications. I don't know if you're trolling or a genuine retard.
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>>110120378
I could see a future where companies hire on junior devs on a contractual basis where they agree to train up the junior in return for him committing to work at the company for 4 years or something.
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>>110120671
Just ask your saargon to do an adversarial review on your shit and see it teardown your schizo delusions in real time.
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>>110120696
i had opu55y do one already madar chod
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>>110120678
No, automationbench is just that terrible of a benchmark.
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>>110120668
>maptitude
never heard of it im doing this for mining/exploration and in a week vibe coding ive matched and surpassed every combination of mapping/gps/logging/sample tracking/admin variation ive seen, i purposefully avoid big mining companies because i would rather kill myself than do safety stuff but it's approaching micromine and stuff as well

the AR is a fun side project i just want to try and place a drill rig in the camera like stacy places a live laugh love sign on her wall in AR
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what the fuck is darksnail
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>>110120684
QGIS for desktop is very popular and so making this a modified version of QField seems a logical choice for me, and I don't have to deal with play store or google
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>>110120708
god built the temple and a snail lives there now
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>>110120707
codex from my experience and maybe your own is going to crawl at a snail-pace concerned about trivial things you know have no meaning or matter. Anything akin to complexity and depth of GIS-like benefits from opus level "move fast and break shit" with later codex adversarial review.
maybe im wrong but pretty happy how things turned out.
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>>110120678
Having used both deepseek and kimi k3, this graph is making me spit out my coffee.
I don't know who the fuck even pays attention to these benchmarks anymore, they clearly don't reflect the real world.
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>>110120539
very good indeed my vibe bro, wagmi
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>>110120683
Yeah that's the one I'm actually excited about. The other open models(except maybe new deepsneed) are mostly novelties when Haiku and Luna exist, but GLM has an actual usecase that american models can't (well, wont) deliver. I spent more on GLM last month than I did on gpt and claude combined.
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>>110120539
goodest morning sa'ar
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>>110120738
amnen. the only chink model I sub and pledge allegiance to.
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>>110120736
zamn looking good anon. Have you done anything for the actual sim yet? I got a swarm of agents working on pop and eco simulation currently. End goal is to model a map of the earth with optional random generation maps.
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>>110120723
Man.. Your qfield has a github repo, https://github.com/opengisch/qfield you don't need to dissect an APK and you can build your own.
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>>110120753
not much, mostly skeleton architecture like the entities on the previous map. have everything planned out already in general, but the urge to keep tweaking and optimizing the map is stronger
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>>110120751
I really hope GLM5.4 or whatever they end up calling it uses n-grams(since rumor is that it's gonna have more parameters), if it does I will burn every single GPT and Claude sub I have on forking Strata to support it.
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>>110120771
happy with the performance tho, native 4k runs at ~5ms of GPU time with advanced shaders, and I still got room to optimize it further
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>>110120776
How are n-grams going to help?
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>>110120776
I hear you. Honestly, if it lives up to the Fable distilled hype, with safeguards being where they lie, I am a very happy boy. Wont need anything else
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Wow people get so wierd about A.I stuff. I’ve noticed they try to tear you down on it.

E.g I make a mod for a game, it def created by A.I, I don’t try to hide it. The mod is never gonna be released to the world. They’ll still try to tear you down despite the fact that they’ll never use the mod and it for my own personal enjoyment.

Like I literally don’t get it. They’re just really bitter about it and not having fun.
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i need n grams of weed so i can code
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>>110120622
>pllumclarinpleu
You fuckers can't help yourselves, can you?
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>>110120783
Native disk offloading of cold expert weights, its how new deepseek has 200B extra params with same level of runtime performance as last checkpoint.
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>>110120760
im not dissecting the APK in fact I told it to avoid doing that for now so i dont need a playstore certificate, so far nothing has required that but it is struggling with the AR which is just a novelty feature

it has a PDF library for SWPs and inductions, every kind of admin and geo logging, grid generator for surface sampling and drone surveys, contacts data base, sample tracker, asset register and inventory logging and more

and none of it has required anything but messing with the built in customisation of QField, and it will still work with QGIS desktop and Qcloud

not sure why you are getting mad, im quite happy with my progress, considering it's cost 1 month of pro 100.
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>>110120788
it's everywhere. a natural midwit sub-"human" reaction to things we don't understand. i.e. the actual unfettered rage i get from /g/ for darksnailposting even THOUGH it's benched objectively
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>>110120789
While(true){n++}
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>>110120788
people are bitter about subjugation. its a natural feeling. fuck em
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>>110120788
I keep preaching it - as soon as you don't generate GFX, SFX, VFX or text, no one is going to bat an eye what's going behind the doors apart from one or two autists
i myself don't use mods that generate previews through midjourney or wherever the fuck they get their piece of shit images, that just screams slop to me
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>>110120793
You don't need a "playstore certificate", I'm assuming it is for personal use so you don't even need a signed apk.
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>>110120832
well then dont assume retard
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>>110120792
Oh shit, so 128gb peasants like us will get finally get local big boy models?
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>>110120804
Yea but it jsut crazy, I want the mechanics, claude can do it for me in 5 min, or I could spend a whole week coding it.

They want me to do the latter for some street cred.
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>>110120788
It's an ideology war at this point because the people are retarded.

In the beginning, when there was a good time to have a serious talk about AI art and what that implies for human art, a bunch of really butthurt people saw that AI wasn't all that good and rather than talk about the intended effect and value of art and how (and if) human and non human art are meaningfully different, which is a bit more difficult of a discussion to have, requiring introspection, they saw that "look ai is bad" is much easier to use as an argument.
Issue is the argument breaks the second the AI gets good (and it did). Instead of then having the harder discussion about the value of art, they tried to shoehorn a moral angle into it. Environmentalism, intellectual theft and societal implications. None of these three were well thought out, but they were marginally smarter than the argument before, however they were still not sincere.

As a result you now have retards who, as basis for their worldview, have "AI bad" and then retroactively argue everything else. They stick to the conclusion and look for the reasoning. That's why, in their worldview you are doing a morally bad thing, despite the fact that they can't quite argue why, which makes them even more mad. That's also why your arguments don't work. Imagine you were like "I'm just torturing kittens for personal enjoyment, what's the big deal", they believe that using the AI is, in itself, morally bad.

Best not to take these people seriously. Time will take care of them quickly.
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>>110120792
>>110120846
maybe I am just privileged, or any matter I guess whats being discussed would be of benefit, but I don't mind at all paypigging a $2.20 an hour GPU instance to run the abliterateds. I only spin them up when I need to use them, and usually have planned exactly what needs to happen, and shut them down after. Never seems to be a prob
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>>110120858
>the people are retarded.
osho noticed
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ChatGPT is bretty good with new dynamic UI
too bad people are tearing them down for not able to answer opus 5.5
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>>110120841
Get stuck with the stupid AR then
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>>110120868
i searched xitter for dynamic ui and nothing related came up, what's that?
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>when you orchestrate 5 sessions simultaneously that constantly need your attention, but everything just works and you're hella productive
best fucking feeling. I'm convinced I could become a successful sports team coach with a multi million dollar salary by managing players like I manage my agents. Or at least a teacher in a private kindergarden/school where parents send their kids to become vibegods.
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>>110120865
Based noticer, glad you caught it.
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>>110120880
nah that's just my own wording
if you use chat you will see it make a lot more UI now
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>>110120892
clearly you called an outside function
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>>110120846
Well thats how qwen next is runnable with like 64gb ram 16gb vram despite being a 180B model. New deepseek is ~700B and fits in ~400Gb iirc so it probably depends on how many cold experts there are. You'll still benefit either way though, even if you can't run it you'll benefit from the API speeding up.
>>110120864
Thats fair, me personally I can keep an entire node saturated 24/7 so going the dedicated hardware route makes sense. Ive been buying hardware with LLMs in mind for a long time though so my economics are probably somewhat unique.
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>>110120771
>>110120780
Is this full 3D? Map looks gorgeous. I've been focusing on the simulation a lot more than the map. It's something that can be optimized later.
What GPU btw? I'm getting around 6-6.5ms on my 9070XT. That is with a simple pop growth model at max tick speed.
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>>110120930
Cloudflare Containers. Cached tiles. Magic!
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Claude is pretty bad today, maybe we're really getting a new Fable.
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>>110120930
have you considered terence tao's dyadic triad operator (2016)? worked on the 'snail
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>>110120454
It includes a host the extension talks to. The host talks to the file manager.
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>>110120944
its thursday unless oai futilely launches bel (lol no)
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Just reminder make you own adblocker and dark mode, make sure to optimize and test for speed performance parity compare to browser env. that doesn’t have any ext.
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So A.I really let creative people do what they want, I have had more fun on a $20 claude sub than any other game.

Does this mean there really not alot of creative people in the world?
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>>110120937
Ah cool, I'm just running it on my NAS 24/7 with my company's team plan.
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>>110120948
How would I apply that here?
t. brainlet
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>>110120930
yep fully 3D, though without rotation as I use few graphical tweaks like the trees (they are 2D sprites)
RTX 4070ti - 90% of the time 5ms to 5.5ms on, while the busier areas with lots of mountains and trees grow up to 6.5, rarely up to 7, mainly due to fuck ass erosion shader I use which I'll have to bake in
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>>110120974
there is still somewhat of a skill ceiling, albeit not very much. Its intimidating in nature, as in you go in completely blind you will get quite shit results, and you look into it and what seems to be required is immense but not really. I always say its a compsci dropout wetdream.
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>>110120974
>Does this mean there really not alot of creative people in the world?
Was always the case.
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>>110120990
Almost makes me wanna give up my attempt lmao. Looking forward to seeing what you'll make with it. Make sure you run benchmarks every night to keep Claude from fucking the performance.
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>>110120990
no joke though if it interests you and you want to serve these maps to numerous users cf containers cached tiles edge served is genuinely like magic man.
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>>110120981
sa'ar says after checking 'snail source and architecture:
>pool map into coarse province medoids (z_H) + high-curl outlier tiles (cities/chokepoints) so downsampling doesn't nuke 1-tile spikes
>route slow->fast flux (z_H -> z_L) through a skew-symmetric triad (W - W^T) with spherical norm retraction
>O(N) updates, sharp border tie-breaks, 0.000e+00 pop drift at max tick speed (see SlowFastTriadCascade in https://github.com/sneed-and-feed/projectdarksnail)

also 6.5ms on a 9070XT = PCIe readback stall or AoS layout. keep SoA buffers on-device and it'll run in <0.2ms
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aim trainer to test my engine's input system is pretty much done, now I'm just adding shit for no reason
it has all the recoil patterns from csgo/cs2 pulled from the leaked code
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>>110121020
>Make sure you run benchmarks every night to keep Claude from fucking the performance.
yeah that's what I do constantly, and thats what I have the profiler for, it likes to propose shit like volumetric clouds for no reason at all, or AAA tier water shaders with waves simulation and shit
>Almost makes me wanna give up my attempt lmao
dont give up anon, your project looks great too
if that's any consolation, what you're seeing took me more than three weeks at this point
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>>110121030
It lacks only a small thing, the gun
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>>110119497
I’m sure thefl0w has you covered but for real bro if the C&D comes through and you start to panic just post in the latest thread and let me know. Got some contacts and obviously ultimately what’s going on won’t stand… but can get you the time and clean out you need to wisp away.
I’d be happy to make that happen. Like to support the newfags in this league bigly. Hackernews thread is going to be fucking bonkers can’t wait. God speed.
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>>110121026
it's for my game, won't be served over the web
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>>110121052
it has no renderer yet, it only has (some) engine systems and a UI framework, I'm getting opus to build minigames as we work on the engine to actually test each part in production and see if agents can do everything on their own
making an engine is so much work
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>>110121054
thewhine0
https://x.com/theflow0/status/2099987019954831744
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>>110120580
what the fuck
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>>110121119
>he doesn't know
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>>110121050
Ah that's a lot more time. Mine's less than a week. You could try to setup a Gitlab/hub repo and let it run performance nightlies automatically. Mine immediately blocks milestones if performance impact gets above a certain threshold.
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>decide to use /grill-me for once
>barely read through the questions or answers since it doesn't make sense to me, just click the recommended answer
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>>110121236
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110121048
why is this subhuman filth spamming the resident mental thread here? only deranged crazies post there.
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>>110121271
>answered his own question
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>>110121030
new weapon selection UI with spray pattern
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those METR bitches are posting again
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>>110121271
i thought sdg was the mentally ill one. or all the imagegen gen threads asylums?
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>>110121295
looks like my spray patterns when I cum
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>>110121302
they all stink bro
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>when is the reset general
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>>110120974
It requires a very specific kind of autism. I can't even put into words how big the hit of dopamina I get vibecoding is. This shit is literally crack for me
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Hi, I want to take advantage of Claude's free 100 credits every month for the API and I'm curious what frontend is best if I basically just want a less-censored Claude Desktop app? I know I'd still have to set up the prompts for that so a recommendation for the preset would be greatly appreciated as well.
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>>110121330
That's basically one prompt per month lol, don't think too hard
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>>110121330
tb h these frontier models don't need much behavioural steering in system prompts anymore
pi has a fairly minimal one about the model being in pi and being a helpful coding agent - you don't even need to tell it that.
tool descriptions and skill front matter is enough to let it know it's got those available.
everything else can literally just be your preferences.
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got the cache miss award
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>>110121252
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>>110121312
>>110121457
why do you want this thread deleted so bad?
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CLAUDE HAS CURED SCORPIONS
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NOOOOOO, I should get that last 5% before the reset right?
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>>110121512
meatbag forgot the picrel
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>>110121492
Sweet, maybe I'll get a pet one now
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>>110121524
I mean, yeah, you're just leaving the 5% on the table otherwise. Go watch youtube or something until then unless it's extremely urgent.
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>>110121492
nice toy
where's your math solution, dario?
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>>110121469
it'll be a snailtroon this is probably xer's thread:
>>110117794
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>>110121559
>Noooo you can't just come up with life-saving treatment you have to solve useless bullshit!!!
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>>110121492
>>110121574
I'm going to need the LEAN proof on this immediately to verify.
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>>110121492
Would that even make headlines if it wasn't Claude?
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>>110121302
all of them are mental posters. the /co/ one is over run by tisms spamming very questionable stuff and others spamming their elsa and anna fixation and other spam. the /sdg/ and /ldg threads are in some who's crazier war with each other and constantly spamming crazy in the threads and spend too much time accusing everyone of being this weeks scary rent free in the crazies head that may or may not exist irl. avoid them all.
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>>110121559
math is a meme
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>>110121586
are you mentally deficient?
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>>110121596
>>110121302
>>110121271
99% of interest in local AI is from pedophiles

just ignore
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>>110121574
>life-saving treatment
low hanging fruit
come back when it can cure half of cancer patients
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https://youtu.be/Wvj2MSrxPkM
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>>110121646
You can already cure cancer, goys like you won't ever see it.
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>>110120974
Most people are severely lacking in both free time and initiative. People arent necessarily uncreative but its very easy to numb your mind with endless dopamine firehoses nowadays and most people live lives that make that pretty attractive. Since creativity is a muscle, this leads to most people's creativity atrophying. So in practice, yes. Most people behave as if they are infinitely lazy and lacking any creativity.
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>>110121628
Proud 1%er
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File: aimtrainer-hptargets.mp4 (3.18 MB, 1920x1080)
3.18 MB
3.18 MB MP4
we now have targets with HP for a recoil mode variation
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>>110118704
change the $20 thing because:
> opencode go
>deepseek harness
> deepseek v4.1 max thinking

literally does the job
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>>110121709
Hm, very impressive.
Now do it in Dell.
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Goyble 5.5 today apparently, you excited, nigs?
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>>110121745
https://darioamodei.com/post/we-must-pace-the-frontier
What happened to that?
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>>110121765
They made those claims to make the Chinese feel better about catching up for a moment; it was merely a teasing ruse.
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>>110121765
Two weeks to pace the frontier.
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>>110121765
OpenAI didn't release an unruly model. I doubt Anthropic would do so either. So it is kinda happening?
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>>110121839
>>110121839
>>110121839
>>110121839
a new bread is in
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>>110121819
You can't ask OpenAI to keep being careful when you're so ahead of them. There's no need to release Fable now, they could get rid of Opus even and would still be ahead
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>>110121835
why are faggots trying to push their fetish into this. It's Chad coders with their Code Sluts. this degen attempt to force faggot lifestyle into this is tedious and shows how the woke wrong think. It's Chad coding and Code sluts not faggotry cuck queer bullshit. we had some retard in a thread or this one or earlier spamming his lies his bull desire is for all. purge of these mentally ill degens when?
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It's a good thing I only use Opus. Get ripping, vibeys!
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>>110122062
thank God im not a burger
stoopid boogers o algo
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So many faggots on X have been claiming that Fable 5.5 is near or that they have access. What is the current actual status of Fable 5.5?
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>>110122729
The real scoop is nobody but Dario knows. And Dario... isn't telling.



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